Re: limiting hard drive space for a user..
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 09:19:48AM +1000, Ross Tsolakidis wrote: Hi all, Newbie question I know, But how can I limit a users home dir to certain amount of hard drive space ? Is it possible ? man quota Look at the quota section - http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch4.en.html#s4.10 kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] History of debian-user footer.
In light of the most recent iteration of the 'users can't unsubscribe' discussion I thought I would do a bit of research. When I started using debian the footer was - Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null There was a huge debate about whether or not to change this to a more user friendly format or not. Some argued the footer should remain due to tradition. Some argued for a kinder and gentler footer. Others felt a more user friendly footer would be codling users too much. After much debate we ended up with - TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For whatever reason, and I bet we can guess why, Bruce turned over the responsibility to Templin - TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] After Templin stepped down I guess no one stepped forward, or it was decided it was too much for one person and Listmaster took over - To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now I see people are calling for yet another improvement a link to - http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe This debate and problem has been going on forever:) I find this humorous on one level. On another I find it disturbing that as a species we can send someone to the moon but we are too stupid to unsubscribe from an email list, *after* we have subscribed. Or is the problem the instructions aren't clear enough or the listmaster isn't responsive enough? evil grin kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: leaving computer on 24/7
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 02:15:43AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 10:08:17AM +1100, Lindsay Yardley wrote: if it's a 24/7 box it's probably better to run it headless and administer it from a web interface. i.e. webmin etc Why go with the insecurity of webforms when SSH exists and gives you a real environment? Or a serial connection. kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good open source primer?
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 01:47:57PM -0500, stan wrote: I found myself in a discussion wiht my bosses boss this morning. It was about how we had time synched all the *NIX boxes. Somewhere in the middle of the discussion, it became quite clear that he simply _did not understand_ the concept of obtaining a peice of software that he did not have to pay for :-( I guess it never occured to me that there could be this lack of understanding. I would like to provide him with a gentle introduction to open source/public doamin software. Any susgestions? I have not read though these yet so don't know how gentle they are but you might find something here - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/book/toc.html kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] user psychology
I've been searching around the web for some documentation on how to deal with users from the perspective of a systems administrator. I'm finding a lot on account management and user policies but not much by way of dealing with people. I'm interested in educating myself about the different approaches sys admins take and the success or failure of these approaches. As you can guess I've recently inherited a network. I'm having no problems with the technical side of administering the network but am finding myself increasingly taking more of a hard-line with regards to users and I would like to decide where I want to draw the lines. Thanks, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] starting damons as non-priv
1) How can you tell if a program is actually running as a non-privileged user? For example proftpd is configured to run as User nobody and Group nogroup but when I do a lsof|grep proftpd root is listed as the user. proftpd 5884 root0u IPv4 20170 TCP *:ftp (LISTEN) 2) If I create an in house damon and have it owned by user nobody but start it from a shell as root which user actually owns this process? Pointers to docs would be appreciated. Thanks, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nothing works
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 06:15:08PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote: my old computer's dead as a whole. i determined that it was either the motherboard or processor, and bought a new combo. plugged them in. turned on computer, and all is well! i let it download email for a while, transferred over some files, and went to reboot for some reason. it halted ... and then never came back up. i can't even turn it on now -- the fan whirrs, but it doesn't even get as far as POSTing, and there's no signal to the monitor. this is where i was before -- BUT it was up for two hours! what's wrong? i'm going to go swap around RAM when i get home. but i find it very weird that it booted once, and no longer. Make sure your power supply fan is turning. Smell the power supply vents to see if it is burned out. Check for unusual heat also. If it is damaged you many be getting enough power to turn the CPU fan and that is about it. kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Removing CRONTAB jobs
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 01:06:38AM -0500, sean finney wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 06:33:50AM +0100, n/a wrote: I've just set up a firewall for some students, now it's late and i'm still awake and this machine is making a lot of noise. Are there any crontab jobs i surely should NOT remove ? in general, i think most the crontabs are there for a reason. for example, the find job (probably the noisiest of them all), updates the database that the locate command uses for finding stuff. if the noise keeps you up at night, i guess you could disable it, but then don't expect locate to be too helpful in a couple weeks. also, you can change the frequency of any of these jobs by moving them from /etc/cron.daily to /etc/cron.weekly if you really want. You could also edit /etc/crontab to change the time cron.daily runs. See man 5 crontab kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Difficulty configuring exim for use with fetchmail and as external MTA.
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 12:59:39AM -0500, Chris Metzler wrote: Hi. I'm a new-ish Debian home user, and exim was the default SMTP handler at installation time. I have a problem with exim that I've put up with for quite some time; but enough is enough, and I'm trying to solve it now, and hope someone can help. I don't use exim to listen on port 25; no incoming SMTP connections are allowed. I use exim 1) as an MTA for outgoing external mail, and 2) as a local MDA. Email sent to users on my host first goes to an IMAP server at my ISP, speakeasy.net; I fetch it from them using fetchmail, which then passes it off to exim for local delivery. Since the email grabbed by fetchmail, and then passed to exim for local delivery, will come in with addresses of the form [EMAIL PROTECTED], exim needs to recognize that incoming mail with that domain is indeed local, and should be put in username's mailbox in /usr/mail, rather than being forward via outgoing SMTP back to mail.speakeasy.net. This implies that speakeasy.net should be set as a local domain in exim.conf. You don't have to set up exim for delivery of email if your using fetchmail. Just slurp it in. Also, outgoing email needs a domain tacked on. In particular, outgoing external mail, to be passed to mail.speakeasy.net by SMTP, needs @speakeasy.net to be tacked on to username in the From: header. At present, I take care of this by having qualify-domain -- the domain automatically tacked on to all unqualified addresses -- set to speakeasy.net. THE PROBLEM: outbound external email to an address at speakeasy.net which is not on my local host -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fails. exim sees the @speakeasy.net and interprets the mail as being local, because speakeasy.net is in the local domain list. It then tries to deliver the mail to some_external_user on my local host, and fails because there is no such user. See the REWRITE CONFIGURATION section near the bottom of exim.conf. And add your user/domain to /etc/email-addresses. hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Boot Process
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 11:27:55AM -0800, Kris wrote: You state it calls init. Where is init /usr/bin /usr/sbin. is init a program. Thanks /sbin/ # which init $ man init $ ps ax|grep init kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SSL installation help.
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 11:02:00AM -0600, linux stuff wrote: yes, thank you ... i realized i had omitted the subject and re-sent the message as i understand it, it's not the actually install, which should work fine the way you propose, but the configuration and getting a certificate and stuff like that which is difficult ... anyway, is there perhaps a mini-HOWTO that can help me with the basics of created an SSL page ? Probably the hardest part is jumping though the hoops to get a cert. To find that info go to the company your purchasing the cert from. Thawte is one I know off the top of my head but I know there are others. Once you get the cert back drop it into place. You will find documentation about all this where you purchase your cert. A google for setting up SSL server or some such phrase should net you plenty of information to fill the cracks. hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie mutt questions
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 02:56:15PM -0500, Chris Hoover wrote: Sorry for this newbie type of questions, but how do you move mail messages to another folder when in mutt? If you want to move one message at a time you can use s for save. If I move a whole folder I generally just cp folder folder0 hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting Static IP Address
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 07:52:04PM -0800, CM Miller wrote: Very new to Debian and installed Woody last weekend. FOr some reason, it didn't recognize by pci 3com nics, but after a little help on this list I got them. Now, how do I set a static ip address? That is set in - /etc/network/interfaces For example - auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.10.7 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.10.0 broadcast 192.168.10.255 gateway 192.168.10.1 For more info - $ man interfaces hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ATA raid install
I've been wading though the various howtos and list archives and could use some advice. I have a GA-7VAXP Gigabyte motherboard with on-board ATA raid. I've got the disks set up with MBFastrack 2+0 stripe. Should I be attempting this with stable/testing/unstable? Does anyone have a floppy set up for preloading the modules and kernel I need? What modules do I actually need? Any advice or links would be appreciated. Thanks, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
screens saver - scrolling marquee
I've got a kiosk set up and would like to display what the intended use of the kiosk is for, in the form of a screensaver. I've installed xscreensaver. The only two screensavers included that come close are flag and GLtext. Flag doesn't look very professional and GLtext flips around so much the text is unreadable and for some reason the letter T doesn't have the top line on it. I've searched deb packages, freshmeat and google. Anyone know of a screensaver for linux along the lines of Scrolling Marquee in Windows? Thanks, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Small footprint window manager
On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 11:37:37PM +0200, Miroslav Mazurek wrote: I need som recomendation for some realy small footprint window manager (it should run on 386/16MB). What's best choice? Take a look at PWM. Has great customizable keyboard support. It also allows you to stick windows together and then quickly iterate though them. http://www.students.tut.fi/~tuomov/pwm/ kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: print web pages with dot matrix?
On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 08:23:55PM -0500, Gary Turner wrote: On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:42:09 -0500, ktb wrote: I'm running Woody. The printer I'm working with is a Panasonic KX-P2030. It will print web pages fine from a windows computer but from Woody it only spits out something along the lines of - %!PS-Adobe-3.0 %%BoundingBox: 54 72 558 720 %%Creator: Mozilla (Netscape) HTML - PS %%DocumentData: Clean7Bit snip [ /.notdef /.notdef .. This is raw Post Script, which the Panasonic doesn't interpret. I installed the printer using apsfilterconfig. I chose the Epson Ghostscript driver as specified at linuxprinting.org. The printer of course prints plain text just fine. Have I missed a step here or change a config? Apsfilter probably set you up with: lp--default, doesn't go through Apsfilter/gs raw--(may be called something else) goes through Apsfilter, but is not modified pandot--(my name for the panasonic dot-matrix printer) goes through Apsfilter and gs and is output as a graphic (raster scan) for the Panasonic OK things are becoming a little more clear but looking though the print howto and gs manpage it isn't becoming apparent to me how to generate a command to do what pandot does for you. I'm going though the gs docs in /usr/share/doc/gs/Use.htm to see if I can figure this out. I was wondering if you could share your printcap? You can email it to me directly if you like. It looks like I'm going to have to muck around with files in /usr/share/ghostscript/common/ also, is that correct? Thanks, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
print web pages with dot matrix?
I'm running Woody. The printer I'm working with is a Panasonic KX-P2030. It will print web pages fine from a windows computer but from Woody it only spits out something along the lines of - %!PS-Adobe-3.0 %%BoundingBox: 54 72 558 720 %%Creator: Mozilla (Netscape) HTML - PS %%DocumentData: Clean7Bit snip [ /.notdef /.notdef .. I installed the printer using apsfilterconfig. I chose the Epson Ghostscript driver as specified at linuxprinting.org. The printer of course prints plain text just fine. Have I missed a step here or change a config? Thanks, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cdrecord/burn problem
My burner used to work fine until I installed woody. I've been searching the net and found the suggestion to use the -dao switch. That didn't help. I'm running a 2.4.18 kernel. Here is the output of - # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 J?rg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.1.22 Using libscg version 'schily-0.5' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'SONY' 'CD-RW CRX0811 ' 'MYS2' Removable CD-ROM Here is a snip of what I get when I run - # cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 woody_netinst-20020215-i386.iso Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in write mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write in 0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. Performing OPC... Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01: 0 of 29 MB written.cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1F 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.002s timeout 40s write track data: error after 0 bytes Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Writing time:5.031s Fixating... cdrecord: Input/output error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 72 04 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x72 Qual 0x04 (empty or partially written reserved track) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.001s timeout 480s cmd finished after 0.001s timeout 480s Fixating time:0.002s cdrecord: fifo had 64 puts and 1 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%. Anyone know what is going on here? Thanks, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrecord/burn problem
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 07:20:22PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: ktb wrote: My burner used to work fine until I installed woody. I've been searching the net and found the suggestion to use the -dao switch. That didn't help. I'm running a 2.4.18 kernel. Here is the output of - which kernel you used when it worked? I also have some funny problem with cdrom burner (I cannot rip audio CDs, everything else works), which I didn't have long time ago (different kernel, different motherboard so I am not sure who to blame:-) It was somewhere between 2.4.0 and 2.4.18. It has been a few months since I used the setup so probably somewhere in the middle. kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody Woes
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 11:47:55AM +1000, Matt Chipman wrote: Hi all I am trying to upgrade to Woody and use the 2.4 kernel. I am a wireless enthusiast and have a pcmcia to pci adapter PLX card with a hermes enterasis card which is why i want to use the 2.4 Kernel. (support is in this kernel if you didnt know) I added the correct llines to the apt soureces list and the upgrade went smoothly with apt-get dist-upgrade Upon reboot. i am still using the 2.2.17 potato kernel :( I know it is something i am doing wrong but i don't know what. RTFM and all that, i have done but have not been able to make it work. I guess my question is when i have the correct apt sources, why doesnt my kernel upgrade? any pointers appreciated Woody uses a 2.2.x kernel by default. A dist-upgrade isn't going to give you a 2.4.x kernel. You will have to snag the kernel source and build/install the kernel yourself. If you don't know how to install a kernel: The debian way - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html The traditional way - http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.html hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: config file for current kernel
On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 05:58:12AM -0700, Kapil Khosla wrote: Hi, I normally have to recompile my kernel a number of times. Obviously , the .config file in /usr/src/linux gets overwritten and I lose my old .config file. I know I can save it by a unique name but is there a command/utility which I could use to know the configuration of the current running kernel ? IIUC - $ less /usr/src/linux/.config or cd /usr/src/linux # make menuconfig Select *not* to save your configuration on exit if all you want to do is view the current config. hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody Woes
On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 08:35:51AM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote: snip One reminder, 2.4 kernels are very modular and must be configured using modules otherwise most key functions do not work. I've got a 2.4.18 kernel with one module installed. Everything else is static. I've seen no key functions that don't work. Which functions are you talking about? kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ispell
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 12:23:40PM -0600, Arthur H. Edwards,1,505-853-6042,505-256-0834 wrote: After a testing dist-upgrade I lost ispell. The entire directory /usr/lib/ispell is gone. I have tried installing, removing and installing, purging and installing. So far nothing has worked. Suggestions welcome I would suggest installing Aspell and the corresponding dictionary for that program. It blows ispell away IMHO. In fact it is the best spell check program I have run across under any platform. $ apt-cache search aspell hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ispell
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 03:39:08PM -0600, Art Edwards wrote: Thanks for the recommendation. Does this integrate easily with emacs/xemacs? I don't use emacs so don't know for sure but it is claimed to be a drop in replacement for ispell. I use it with mutt and off the command line. kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What are the bf varient kernel packages?
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 01:19:04PM -0400, Curtis Dean Smith wrote: As above, what is the difference between the regular kernel packages and bf varients in testing? Read the README.txt - http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/disks-i386/current/bf2.4/README.txt and the flavors section of README.txt http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/disks-i386/current/README.txt hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Menuing system
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 01:48:34PM -0500, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: Is there a package for a utility that will allow me to make custom menu screens for utilities? I am setting up a server for a user that is not linux savvy and I want to create a menu to run commands like adduser, userdel, etc etc. It would be best if each menu item would allow me to customize each item to make this as stupid proof as possible. Maybe - whiptail xdialog dialog is what your looking for. hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: black screen of death
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 11:27:00AM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hello! I am running woody + sawfish-gnome. Sometimes, after xscreensaver has started and the monitor enters the suspend mode it never comes back again. No matter I do, the screen remains black and insensible to any mouse or keyboard input. The solution is to reset the machine. Did anyone face this problem in the past? is it a xserver bug (I am running xfree86 4.0)? what is the solution? I haven't had that problem but - $ xset -dpms should kill suspend mode. hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to reconfigure fetchmail?
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 02:11:14PM -0500, stan wrote: I need to reconfigure fetchmail on one of my woody machines. I tried using dselct to delte reinstall it. That did not prompt me for configuration data, so I tried dpkg-rconfigure fetchmail. This just returned a prompt. How can I do this? I just edit .fetchmailrc in my home directory. You could also run - $ apt-cache search fetchmail and you would find - fetchmailconf - fetchmail configurator # apt-get install fetchmailconf hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libm.so.5
On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 03:47:41PM -0800, Joe Wise wrote: I just did an apache installation and that libm.so.5 library is missing from our Debian/linux 2.2r2 What is the workaround or solution. You can do a search at - http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents to find out what package the file your looking for is in. Looks like the libc5 package. # apt-get install libc5 hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: attachment problem with mutt
On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 06:09:21PM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hello, I am running woody and mutt. I have a problem with the attached files in mutt: mutt insists in put the attached file in the body of the message, either in the messages I send as well as the messages I receive with attached files. Does exist an option for fix this problem? Open the mail and then hit, v You will then see that you can save the attachment by pressing, s If you are attaching plain text files you will see it in the body of the message but if you follow the steps above you will see the file is attached. hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: How can I find out what package contains the Gnome dictionaty aplet?
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 06:52:34AM -0500, stan wrote: Somewhere along the line, one of my dslect upgrades must have removed the Gnome dictionary aplet, but I cna't seem to find it in the dselect list. Is there a tool that I can use to search the avaialble packages see what package conyains this? If I were you I would try - $ dpkg -S applet If that didn't bring anything up I would try searching for applet at - http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages under section Search the contents of packages and see if you find something that looks relevant. hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) pgpHzmwZKrFdM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apt-get reinstall?
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:33:59AM -0600, Elizabeth Barham wrote: Hi, Is there an easy method to re-install a package? I rebooted my machine and apache is segfaulting right as it starts up. Other applications are running fine, even Tomcat which taxes memory. Any ideas on how to diagnosis this or any ideas on how to re-install? There is a --reinstall option which you can find and read about in - $ man apt-get If that doesn't work for you try - # apt-get remove package_name You could throw in a --purge to wipe out all config files if you want to go that far but you probably don't need to in this case. Before you do any of that you should of course back up all config files and what you have in /var/www Then just reinstall with - # apt-get install package_name hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: dosemu
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:08:17AM -0700, Phil Reardon wrote: I installed dosemu on my potato box to try to help Cheryl, but it did not give me any man or info pages. Who maintains dosemu, anyway? I went here - http://www.debian.org/devel/people Looks like - Xu, Herbert ?[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ is the maintainer. kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: Galeon PSM
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 08:32:11AM -0800, Michael Montagne wrote: What is PSM for Galeon (mozilla?)? When trying to reach a secure sight I'm informed that this must be installed. The download is a whole bunch of files tarred together. I'm unsure how to proceed. Should I just copy the whole tree I downloaded into my mozilla tree (the directories and file names seem to match so there will be much overwriting)? I've installed everything else with apt-get so I'd like to stay within the system. Can I install PSM with apt-get? Install - mozilla-psm # apt-get install mozilla-psm hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: su montioring
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 06:27:46PM -, David Richards wrote: hi are there any program that will log/monitor who are using root privigies ? I don't know if it completely fits the bill but take a look at /var/log/auth.log hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) pgpNhSNyELfpQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: re-set button keeps blinking
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:07:42PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I just thought you might help me I have a hp deskjet 870Cse printer just a couple of days ago I noticed no print jobs when I turn it on the re-set button keeps blinking and the paper won't feed. I don't have an owners manuel because I found the printer. by the garabage can. practically brand new. Maybe you can give me a few pointers.P.S. I re-instaled the printer. still not working There may be a reason why it was by the trash can. OTOH hand people do throw out perfectly good stuff. At any rate I would look for the documentation at - hp.com The site is usually a nightmare to find stuff but they usually have what I'm looking for. We had a few hp deskjets serving the public as a temporary solution. We got a lot of the blinking reset buttons. Usually unplugging the power and then plugging it back in would work. kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) pgpc8KkJPOldk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dosemu: cua
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 02:13:09PM -0600, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
Looking again at the README.txt.gz, I see that all the serial examples use
/dev/cua1 etc, though the examples in /etc/dosemu/dosemu.conf use
/dev/ttyS0,
etc. What on earth is a /dev/cua device; I don't have anything like that in
/dev.
TIA.
This may help answer your question, from
$ man MAKEDEV -
Serial Devices
ttyS{0..63}
Serial ports and corresponding dialout device. For
device ttySx, there is also the device cuax which
is used to dial out with. This can avoid the need
for cooperative locks in simple situations.
http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.5
Lists /dev/cua as being obsolete but shows how to create them with
mknod
I've never messed with dosemu so can't tell you what to do with the info
but thought it might be helpful. Someone else will probably point the
way better than I.
kent
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Re: vim-gtk, where is gvim ?
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 10:41:25PM +0100, Thomas wrote: Hello, I've installed vim-gtk with apt-get, but I cannot find /usr/bin/gvim, it's just a link to vim. Moreover, vim -g doesn't launch the GUI. Does anyone have the same problem ? I just installed vim-gtk from testing and gvim came with it. kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) pgpX1qL5poZ3K.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: menu
On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 09:39:18AM +, Marcelo Leal wrote: Has anyone a menu script done??? I need do some scripts, and i will have to do a nice interface... i thought if somebody have a default one... with colors and so on... Look at the package dialog, xdialog, whiptail. You can search for packages on your own at - http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages or with - $ apt-cache search package_name hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: Which window-manager for a kiosk?
On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 11:41:35AM -0600, Kent West wrote: Which window manager will give me the ability to size/move/close/etc windows, but without the ability to start other programs, etc. I want a kiosk style setup, on a low-memory machine. ICEWM has that menu at the bottom with the Start menu, so it's unsuitable. I tried twm, but I have to manually place the default app (Galeon) when it starts or when a new window is opened by the web site being visited, and I would prefer the window to just take the entire screen or at least not require manual placement. Any suggestions? I used fvwm on our kiosks at work. I'm not sure what yours is going to be used for but ours loads netscape which is pointed to two internal web servers. We didn't want them to have the capability of size/move/etc so we overlayed all the buttons and such with graphics. At any rate you should be able to add or remove whatever buttons you want to windows, configure the root menus, etc under fvwm. It is light weight and highly configurable, not the most beautiful though:) Depending on your security needs you might want to look into running this in a chroot directory or use rbash. hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: bash scripting question (variables and spaces)
On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 08:35:53PM +0100, Karsten Heymann wrote: Hi, I have once again come upon bash problem I can't solve. I'm writing a little bash frontend and one of the programs expects a option that includes spaces and is composed from two other shell var's. Example: #!/bin/bash A=Hello B=Karsten C=$A $B someprog --greeting $C #!/bin/bash A=Hello B=Karsten C=$A $B echo $C Works fine for me. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/scratch$ ./yo2 Hello Karsten What is your someprog ? kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: PDF
On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 02:43:56PM -0800, curtis wrote: What is the best tool for editing and creating pdf files? Here is a quick online prog - http://www.ps2pdf.com/convert/convert.htm Maybe not exactly what your looking for but... kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation) pgpEjN2qyJWUt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: linux on IBM PS/1
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 03:05:21PM +0100, Bostjan Muller wrote: Hi! We recieved a few IBM PS/1 machines in our local cybercaffe, and would like to install linux on them, but none of the install floppies would recognize the disk controler nor the disk. If anyone has any information about installing linux on PS/1 machines I'd be verry gratefull, if he/she would share the information. A few years back I installed on a IBM PS/2 386. It had a MCA bus. I would imagine the PS/1 does also. I don't know off the top of my head if debian supports MCA. When I installed (I think it was mutt) I had to get special boot disks. I found them with a web search. I know there isn't anything definitive in what I've said here but maybe it will give you a start. Does the bios recognize the drive? kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: linux on IBM PS/1
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 03:45:37PM +0100, Robert Waldner wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:29:01 CST, ktb writes: debian on IBM PS/1 A few years back I installed on a IBM PS/2 386. It had a MCA bus. I would imagine the PS/1 does also. I don't know off the top of my head if debian supports MCA. At least the stock kernel always complains 'cause it can't find any MCA-bus ;) When I installed (I think it was mutt) I had to get special boot disks. I found them with a web search. I know there isn't anything definitive in what I've said here but maybe it will give you a start. Does the bios recognize the drive? Special boot disks for a mailclient? Ha:) I meant (hamm) not (mutt). It is still early for me. kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: exim getting the from addresses right
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 08:41:19PM -0800, Harry Putnam wrote: After getting a little experience with exim, I think I've done my last painful config hairpulling session with sendmail. And have moved other machines not running debian to exim too. I think I may be botching my config with old hold-over sendmailisms. First let me set down the basic details of the setup here: Home network of 5-6 machines. A newly installed and still being configed debian, machine, a Redhat 7.1 (main desktop at this point) A solaris 8 (intel), A laptop running freebsd, and 2 winX machines (win2k and win98) All this is behind a hardware firewall (Netgear FR314) I have a static IP address and am dsl connected, through a local isp. I'm now setting up the debian machine to be the mail, machine for this motley collection. I've installed popa3d and have gotten the basics working. I can collect from the deb machine or send thru it at this point. My actual mail usage is a little bit complicated but nothing really far fetched. My wife and I have accounts for mail with Newsguy.com so that is one pop source. We all (Family) have accounts with or isp, dslextreme as well, another pop source. I've set the ISPs smtp machine as our smarthost. When I ran through eximconfig It asked me what public name to use. That is, what would makeup the from header. On my macine. The one that will be the mail hub, that is newsguy.com. My address being [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsguy is actually an nonline commercial newsfeed and mail IP. I'm not really part of it at all. So I answered newsguy.com. I've used sendmail for years and have always masqueraded as newsguy.com in my sendmail configs. Then it asks if there are other names that will be used. I gave my actual local.lan name and dslextreme.com. Which is my daughters From address (in part). When asked if I wanted to relay for any local machines I said 192.168.0.0/24. So my exim settings on these points look like: qualify_domain = newsguy.com local_domains = localhost:newsguy.com:local.lan:dslextreme.com local_domains_include_host = true local_domains_include_host_literals = true [...] host_accept_relay = 127.0.0.1 : 1 : 192.168.0.0/24 [...] The rest doesn't really look like it has bearing on the problem I'm about to describe: If I say `echo something|mail -v -s test of exim [EMAIL PROTECTED]' The verbose information shows the mail is immediately put in /var/mail/reader It doesn't actually go to the smtp server at newsguy. Ditto if I say [EMAIL PROTECTED] (also a real address). [A side note here: With verbose mail flag set, the prompt is not returned after the command completes. One has to press ^c to get the prompt back. Is that by design for some reason? (The same command returns the prompt using sendmail)] I suspect I should have something different in the config but not sure what it would be. I think both items above should actually go the circuit they are addressed for. That is, be passed to newsguy machines or dslextreme machines respectively, and be pulled back with fetchmail or what ever. Apparently I've given exim bad info, but not at all clear how to tell exim to address my mail with newsguy but I'm not really it... hehe. Check the rewrite configuration section at the bottom of exim.conf. kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: browser tries to download php test file info.php
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 10:05:09PM -0800, Xeno Campanoli wrote: Say, I'm stuck making PHP go. As per instructions on page 43 of Converse and Park, I made an info.php file, but when I specify it's URI, the browser just tries to download it. I've got the Addtype(s) in Apache, and I've got valid /etc/php4/*/php.ini files (the * gives apache and cgi directories), and I've protected /var/www as per the instructions. So what gives? Is this a simple omission, or am I broken? Is this obvious? Have you uncommented - LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so in /etc/apache/httpd.conf and restarted Apache? kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: booting from PCI IDE card rather than SCSI
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 01:39:02AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2002-03-15 at 21:59, Matt Garman wrote: Okay---at this point I've rebooted my computer probably 50 times over the last three days. I'm trying to install a new IDE hard drive and have it run off of an IDE PCI controller. Everything that could go wrong has, short of data loss (so I'm fuming, not crying :) Anyway, sparing you my long story of frustration, here's my current problem: I've got my old system running off of my SCSI disks. It works fine. However, I just bought a Promise ATA/133 PCI IDE card and a new IDE hard drive. I got my new system installed on the new drive. [snip] The only other thing I could think of is using my rescue disk to do a rescue root=/dev/hda2 but this Promise ATA/133 controller needs a patched kernel or a 2.4.19-pre3 (or newer) kernel to be supported. I don't have such a rescue disk. I tried the mkboot command from the new system; when I booted with *that* disk, it just froze when it Three things: 1. Maybe you _can't_ boot off of the Promise controller, since you don't have the proper kernel. 2. what does lilo.conf say are the values of the boot and root variables? 3. In the kernel build process, there's an option to allow booting off of an external PCI card. Maybe that option is not set in your kernel. One thing I will add to this list is be aware that you will need to change your /etc/fstab to reflect your new disk location. More than likely it will be /dev/hde kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: noise when using esd
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 12:56:07PM +0100, Preben Randhol wrote: I have set up esd on a machine that has a via868 soundcard. I compiled the latest alsa driver. The sound works nicely without any problem. Even having several programs playing sound at the same time works (which was the reason I started using esd, so that galeon would stop hanging every time it came to a page with flash.) I had tried this earlier, but then esd added noice on top of the sound. However when I try to do the same with a another machine that has a intel820 soundcard (using alsa here too) I get noise added to the sound, usually in the right channel. Same happens with artsd. Does anybody know why this happens and is there a way I can fix this? I'm going to setup for a third machine where the soundcard is via8233. To be honest I don't know what esd and artsd are but it sounds like you could be experiencing a feedback problem. Check the placement of your speakers and look inside your box for any loose wires or power running past your sound card. Kind of vague I know but:) kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: Newbie - Internet install help 2
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 03:27:59PM +0100, Ronald Castillo wrote: Hello.. I am new to the Linux world. I want to install Debian Linux but I have some questions, and I would really appreciate it if you could help me: I have a CD of the Debian 2.1 (Slink) distribution. Is there any way I can just install a base system and download the rest of the system via internet? I want to install Woody but I couldn?t find an ISO online. If it is possible, how can I do to configure my internet connection? I connect to the Internet using a LAN connection (cable-modem). All my internet settings are automatically configured by an DHCP server. I already know the module name of my LAN card (tulip), but that?s all I know. I would really appreciate any help you could give me about this. I want to learn to use Debian so I can configure a home system and a HTTP, FTP and news server. If you have read my last email which contains this same information and you plan to write me, please do so by replying to this email and not the other one. Slink is a bit old. Sounds like you have a fast connection. What I would do is download the woody floppy images - root.bin, rescue.bin and the four driver-x.bin files. You can get by with less driver files if you use a different kernel. I'll let you research that one if you choose. You can get the files at - ftp://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/ Read the installation instructions - ftp://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/README.txt During the install you will be configuring your network settings. Choose dhcp. After you have your box up and running I would take it off line and lock it down. Take a look at - http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html It sounds like you wanted cc'd I'm going to do so but prefer to keep things on list. hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: Newbie - Internet install help 2
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 04:15:48PM +0100, Ronald Castillo wrote: Thanks a lot for your help!! I'll give a try to what you are suggesting me. About the HTML emails.. I hadn't noticed I had that set up, but now they are configured as plain text. Thanks for warning me. And, about the CCs.. I had forgotten that I can get replies just by emailing the mailing list, that's why I said that I preferred you to email me to this address. It is fine for me if you just mail to the mailing list instead of sending an email to me personally. Again, I want to appreciate all of you who have given me assistance. I'll post again when I have given that a try. I would go with the CD ISO method. Sounds a lot easier. Floppies can be temper-mental:) kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: server error
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 08:26:32PM +, john gennard wrote: I've just re-installed Potato 2.2 r4 (following changes to hard disks) -this is something I have not done for a long time as I don't have crashes. Now I have a problem not encountered before. When trying to 'startx', I get the following error message:- Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' I can make no sense of this and don't know what is involved. So far as I can remember I followed a normal minmal install and then used apt-get for my main programs including KDE. Can anyone point the way please and also if possible explain what is (or is not) involved. Try installing xfonts-jmk. I *think* that contains fixed fonts. Or you could edit /etc/X11/XF86Config so it doesn't look for 'fixed' fonts. At any rate X is looking for 'fixed' fonts and you don't have them installed. hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: netscape6
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 09:31:04AM +, Marcelo Leal wrote: how can i install netscape6 in Debian unstable? I've been off list for a while so I don't know if anyone has a package put together. Search the archives for that. If there isn't a package you can try - http://browsers.netscape.com/browsers/main.tmpl hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: package install problem
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 03:06:57AM -0800, faisal gillani wrote: Can anyone tell me what this mean when i install this package with dpkg ? debian:~# dpkg -i fetchmailconf.deb dpkg-deb: unexpected end of file in version number in fetchmailconf.deb dpkg: error processing fetchmailconf.deb (--install): subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: fetchmailconf.deb You probably have a partial download or corrupted file. Go to the download page and look for the checksum - The MD5sum for fetchmailconf_5.3.3-3.deb stable is 223c6590b7495a41d4743d526222bc Run - md5sum file_name The two numbers probably won't match. If not download the file again. Try a different mirror if the second download doesn't work. hth, kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: Slow list?
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 12:29:03AM +0100, Carel Fellinger wrote: Is it just me, or are others too experiencing a rather slow debian-user? It takes more then an hour just to get me own posting back! This used to be mere minutes. So what happened, is my ISP holding up the messages or is the debian mail server sluggish. And if the latter, what has happened to it to make it so slow? I just subscribed and it took longer than that to complete the process. kent -- To know the truth is to distort the Universe. Alfred N. Whitehead (adaptation)
Re: Advice on creating a workstation
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 01:29:16PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All I do voluntary work in a place where members of the public come to use computers, drink tea and coffee, read newspapers ... Usually we use windows but I have decided to experiment with linux workstation (dual booting with win2000). I really want to restrict users to browsing the www, using some office apps, accessing some other systems using some SSH type app, printing ... Does anyone have any words of advica to give before I embark on my journey (links to sources of info welcome). At the moment I am deciding how to partition the hard disk - I have reserved 4GB for linux. Check out the Kiosk HOWTO - http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Kiosk-HOWTO.html Also there are patches and a HOWTO to lock down the KDE browser. I have the link at work. I can shoot it to you Monday if you can't find it. It isn't at linuxdoc.org. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: Where do I start looking for one hand typing?
On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 02:30:59PM +0200, Danie Roux wrote: Just out of curiosity mostly: How can I make the shift key sticky. And can I switch between a sticky and non sticky shift in one keystroke? I don't want to stop typing when I drink my coffee :-) I've never tried it but I would look into mapping the 'shift' key to the 'caps lock' key. You can use xmodmap for that in X. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: How to prevent blanking of monitor?
On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 08:58:39AM -0400, Stan Brown wrote: Debian stable + Progeny upgrades )XF964) _ 2.4.9 kernel. When I log intot an X session, after a certsin period of time of inactivy the monitor blaks out. How can I stop this? xset I think will work. Check the man-page but xset s off should do the trick. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: Man
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 12:31:44AM -0500, Michael Grover wrote: is there any on-line version of the man pages? like for man 5 interfaces I tried man 5 interfaces mike.txt but there was so many control chars that the text file was too hard to read. google.com will net you lots of info - http://www2.linuxjournal.com/help/man.html kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: debian Xwindows -- query
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 12:48:55PM +0800, louie miranda wrote: Hi, i try to install the xfree86*.deb files and some other libraries, and i choose fvwm for my desktop. And i installed xterm and netscape only.. this was in dselect, now after the dselect installed/configured the packages.. i started running XF86Setup to setup some other things.. then after that i run startx on the console, it started successfully, but on my desktop only xterm is there.. i mean a blank desktop and only xterm is running, its weird.. btw, on my first installation i did choose the export option, because i wanted to choose the packages which i really want on my machines :) Create an .xsession file in your home directory and run fvwm from there. There are good instructions on creating an .xinitrc file at http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XFree86-HOWTO/x121.html use them for creating your ~/.xsession file. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: notification related
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 03:49:40PM +0530, Jeffrin Jose T. wrote: Iam using mutt as MUA and i have different mail boxes. Is it possible to make an arrangement such that i should to notified that a new message has arrived at a typical box without opening it. I use gbuffy. There are various buffy and biff programs. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: www.debian.org
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 05:45:27PM +0300, Ilmars Dinbirs wrote: any problems with subj. ? The server seems to be down at the moment as you have discovered. kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: not sure how to retrive my mail
On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 10:07:19PM +0100, j.dales wrote: please could you put me on the right track to be able to retrive my mail. very new to this. i used to go onto the ntl icon and double click and the computor would ask if i wanted to retrive my mail. i phoned ntl support line who corrected some problems for me now i can only get onto the internet by clicking on the big e icon. please help This is a list for Debian Linux users. I suggest you call your isp for help. kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: So many package tools, apt, dselect, dpkg, which should I choose?
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 07:12:17AM +, Yuwen Dai wrote: Hi, All I'm new to Debian but not new to Linux. I find there're many packages in Debian. I'm confused. In what situation should I choose one? Thank you in advance. Take a look at - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkgtools.html I use apt-get for installing packages off the net. If I have a .deb locally on my machine I install with dpkg. kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: kernel modules problems
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 12:38:53AM -0400, Bart Himel wrote: I've been a user of Debian for several years now. Due to a problem with libc last week, I had to go through the pain of reinstalling everything. Anyway, since then, every time I try to compile a new 2.4.x kernel, I get a message from depmod reporting dependency prioblems with almost ALL of my modules. Am I missing some package essential to making kernel deb packages? or is this simply another issue with gcc 2.95.x? Did you upgrade modutils? linux/Documentation/Changes will tell you which packages and versions you need to upgrade to. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: kernel modules problems
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 01:22:51AM -0400, Bart Himel wrote: I did, but I still get the same problem. Funny enough, I went ahead and installed the kernel, and the modules 'seem' to work okay, but I'm still concerned about that error message. Have you tried running - # depmod -a ? IIRC it is run in the start scripts but I've found running it prior to a reboot can sometimes help with some issues. kent At 12:11 AM 9/26/2001 -0500, ktb wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 12:38:53AM -0400, Bart Himel wrote: I've been a user of Debian for several years now. Due to a problem with libc last week, I had to go through the pain of reinstalling everything. Anyway, since then, every time I try to compile a new 2.4.x kernel, I get a message from depmod reporting dependency prioblems with almost ALL of my modules. Am I missing some package essential to making kernel deb packages? or is this simply another issue with gcc 2.95.x? Did you upgrade modutils? linux/Documentation/Changes will tell you which packages and versions you need to upgrade to. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: exim rewrite, sorry
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 06:38:34PM -0400, Giulio Morgan wrote:
I can't make my exim rewrite line work...on a dial-up machine, no domain
Here are what I think are the pertinent parts of my exim.conf
qualify_domain = SanMarco
# qualify_recipient =
local_domains = localhost:SanMarco
[EMAIL PROTECTED]${lookup{$1}lsearch{/etc/email-addresses}\
^
should be your hostname + local domain
{$value}fail} bcfrF
From /etc/email-addresses
giulio: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
^
this should be your username
I know this is a problem which has been asked many times before, but after two
frustrating days...I'm sorry for one more time
Thank you very much for any help
My computer's hostname = scab
domain= nixnotes.org
user name = kent
email address I want = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So I have the following -
/etc/email-addresses
kent: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/etc/exim.conf
qualify_domain = scab.nixnotes.org
local_domains = localhost:scab.nixnotes.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED]${lookup{$1}lsearch{/etc/email-addresses}\
{$value}fail} bcfrF
Make sure you restart exim -
# /etc/init.d/exim reload
hth,
kent
--
The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the
same level of thinking we were at when we created them.
--Albert Einstein
Re: .raw vs .iso for burning?
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 06:04:43PM -0500, Kent West wrote: Following the links on the Debian homepage I've found some .raw files of Sid; however, I've always used .iso files for burning CDs. Can I burn a .raw file just the same as an .iso, or is it a different format, or should I just rename the extension, or what? BTW, the burner I'd use is on a Macintosh, but I have a friend who has a Windows-based burner if necessary. If your burn software will take the .raw extension burn that, if not, change the filename from .raw to .iso and it should work fine. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: How to fix corrupted download
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 09:04:44AM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: Is there an easy way to force apt to download a deb again? I seem to have got a corrupted one: (Reading database ... 131943 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace xfonts-75dpi 4.1.0-5 (using .../xfonts-75dpi_4.1.0-6_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement xfonts-75dpi ... dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) dpkg: error processing /usr/var/apt/archives/xfonts-75dpi_4.1.0-6_all.deb (--unpack): I think it's just my download, not the version on the server, that's corrupt. # apt-get clean will delete your downloaded debs. You may have other issues though. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: time sync probs
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 01:19:54PM -0700, Mike Egglestone wrote: Hi, I thought I would try and sync my potato server to an internet time server, so I installed ntp, edited the /etc/ntp.conf file: server 192.5.41.209 I then restart the ntp daemon and noticed my date never changed. However, earlier, I used ntpdate to sync with that time server and it worked. (I make sure both aren't running at the same time) Is there a part of the ntp daemon that I'm missing? Any help would be great!! Have you tried running ntp recently? Often the time difference is too great for ntp to sync initially. After you run ntpdate and sync up with the time server then ntp can do it's work. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: How to disable X temporarily?
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 01:43:48PM +0200, Alexander Steinert wrote: What would you regard as the most elegant way to keep all users of a system from starting a X session. It should be a) temporarily and b) nothing like apt-get remove ... ;-) Don't know how elegant but how about - # chmod /usr/X11R6/bin/X hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: what command in linux such as mem in dos
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 10:45:58PM +0200, thomas anderson wrote: Hi, is there a command in linux to show a more detailed information on memory usage and alternatively also cpu usage? currently I use 'ps aux' but I need more information... One way you can find information about commands on your system is search with man -k $ man -k memory Will show the command free. Another, top should be useful to you. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: little script for log watching
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 04:01:12PM -0700, Mike Egglestone wrote: Hi, I would like to write a script that would output to the screen the latest contents of a log, and continue to do so until I abort the script. For example, I have squid running, and would like to see the latest additions to the /var/log/squid/access.log as it takes place. Something like typing the tail command over and over again or something. Is this possible? If its quite complicated, please point me to a nice script place on the web where I can learn about simple scripts. tail -f access.log should do the trick. Check the man page for more. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: Mutt Unread Mail
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 01:37:28PM +0100, Paul Clark wrote: I am learning to use Mutt. I cannot find a way to jump to unread messages across my many mail folders. I know TAB works within folders but that means I have to try every folder to find unread messages. Is there an easier way? I start mutt with mutt -y which shows what folders contain new messages. Then iterate through them with c + enter hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: How
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 02:41:24PM -0700, rg2k1 wrote: Hi Have been trying my darndest to download Debian from the net. But evidently I don't understand how to do it. And can't find any How to references. I go to download with FTP/ USA and get the Parent list. ?? I'm a newbi to Linux, with a great interest in learning all I can. But tell me please, How in the heck do I download from the net?? I've gone everywhere on your site to no avail. Or is the Linux OS just beyond me, and I should stick with Microsoft. Thanks for your help! There are different ways of installing. You didn't mention what method you wish to use. You also didn't mention what you are trying to download a floppy image or iso image. What I would suggest to you is read or reread the installation instructions at - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install Once you have done that and understand what installation method you are attempting, post back if you have problems. Linux isn't beyond you. It just takes some time, usage and reading to become comfortable with it:) hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: aterm and ~/.Xdefaults
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 07:19:52PM -0500, Rob VanFleet wrote: Aterm doesn't seem to want to read my ~/.Xdefaults file even though its manpage declares it will. Before anyone tells me to try ~/.Xresources, I already have, and xterm reads ~/.Xdefaults just fine. All I have in my ~/.Xdefaults is the background and foreground color: XTerm*background: black XTerm*foreground: grey I also tried 'ATerm' in place of 'XTerm', but to no avail. Aterm remains the default white background and black foregound. I'm running unstable (sid) btw. Anyone have some pointers ,ideas, etc? Run the following line on the command line in your home directory xrdb -load .Xresources If that does the trick then run it from your X startup file. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: Mouse problems after upgrading to Woody (X4)
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 06:44:23PM +0200, Daniel de los Reyes wrote: -- __ Daniel de los Reyes S2-Desarrollo, Grupo S2 Valencia Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU-Linux 2.2r3 __ Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 18:42:24 +0200 From: Daniel de los Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lista de Debian-KDE debian-kde@lists.debian.org Subject: Mouse problems after upgrading to Woody (X4) User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i After an upgrade to Woody and X 4 , and quite a bit of a trouble to be able to get my X back to work, T can't get my mouse to work correctly. From time to time it gets frozen This is the output of the X session: (==) NV(0): Backing store disabled (==) NV(0): Silken mouse enabled (**) NV(0): DPMS enabled (II) Keyboard Generic Keyboard handled by legacy driver (**) Configured Mouse: Protocol: ImPS/2 (**) Configured Mouse: Core Pointer (==) Configured Mouse: Buttons: 3 (**) Configured Mouse: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) Configured Mouse: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Generic Mouse: Protocol: ImPS/2 (**) Generic Mouse: always reports core events (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such file or directory. (EE) Generic Mouse: cannot open input device (EE) PreInit failed for input device Generic Mouse (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Configured Mouse (type: MOUSE) And this is my XF86Config related to mouse: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option ProtocolIMPS/2 Option Device /dev/gpmdata Option SampleRate 150 Option ChordMiddle EndSection gpm gets started at boot time Shut down gpm and see if your mouse works. # /etc/init.d/gpm stop You might have to point your mouse to /dev/psaux for ps/2 or /dev/ttyS0 for serial. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: Mouse problems after upgrading to Woody (X4)
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 07:28:08PM +0200, Daniel de los Reyes wrote: El Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 12:02:35PM -0500, ktb dijo: -| On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 06:44:23PM +0200, Daniel de los Reyes wrote: -| -| -- -| __ -| Daniel de los Reyes -| S2-Desarrollo, Grupo S2 -| Valencia Spain -| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -| Powered by Debian GNU-Linux 2.2r3 -| __ -| -| Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 18:42:24 +0200 -| From: Daniel de los Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] -| To: Lista de Debian-KDE debian-kde@lists.debian.org -| Subject: Mouse problems after upgrading to Woody (X4) -| User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i -| -| After an upgrade to Woody and X 4 , and quite a bit of a trouble to be -| able to get my X back to work, T can't get my mouse to work correctly. -| From time to time it gets frozen -| This is the output of the X session: -| -| (==) NV(0): Backing store disabled -| (==) NV(0): Silken mouse enabled -| (**) NV(0): DPMS enabled -| (II) Keyboard Generic Keyboard handled by legacy driver -| (**) Configured Mouse: Protocol: ImPS/2 -| (**) Configured Mouse: Core Pointer -| (==) Configured Mouse: Buttons: 3 -| (**) Configured Mouse: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 -| (**) Configured Mouse: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 -| (**) Generic Mouse: Protocol: ImPS/2 -| (**) Generic Mouse: always reports core events -| (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice -| No such file or directory. -| (EE) Generic Mouse: cannot open input device -| (EE) PreInit failed for input device Generic Mouse -| (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Configured Mouse -| (type: MOUSE) -| -| And this is my XF86Config related to mouse: -| -| Section InputDevice -| Identifier Mouse1 -| Driver mouse -| Option ProtocolIMPS/2 -| Option Device /dev/gpmdata -| Option SampleRate 150 -| Option ChordMiddle -| EndSection -| -| gpm gets started at boot time -| -| -| Shut down gpm and see if your mouse works. -| # /etc/init.d/gpm stop -| -| You might have to point your mouse to /dev/psaux for ps/2 or /dev/ttyS0 for -| serial. -| hth, -| kent IF I do this I have to choose between using the mouse in the console with the gpm or in X. I need both... :-(( There are various work arounds to getting X and gpm happy with each other. It has been covered many times. I suggest you search the archives for the answer. I've never found the fixes to help in my situation. I don't use a mouse in console very often so I just start gpm when I need it and stop it when I move back to X. kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: Debian Progeny Debian?
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 04:56:14PM +0800, Paolo Alexis Falcone wrote: I'm scouting for a Linux distro for a complete newbie who I think will be interested in Linux. RedHat or Mandrake might be easy to install, but the mere fact that they ship with a broken compiler that breaks almost anything is not too comforting (I started with RedHat, and I can't forget the first time I tried to compile a program - it failed and I almost didn't get my machine problem done had I not checked RedHat's fixes). I would prefer my newbie friend and classmate in computer science to try out Debian, but it might intimidate her initially (she's currently a Windows user). Would anyone recommend Progeny Debian instead? I looked at their web site and it looked good - the matter in question would be - would it be as good for a beginner? Can anyone give a qualitative analysis on Progeny? If your friend doesn't mind some help with the install from you, I would just install debian. If she wants to do it all her self no harm in letting her try a debian install and if she simply can't make it though suggest progeny. Basically the two distros are the same except progeny has an easier install and some more recent software such as XFree 4. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: Burning .raw
On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 01:58:50PM +0200, Helgi Örn wrote: Hello all! I just domnloaded the DEMUDI image to give it a try end the file happens to be in a .raw format which I don't know anything about. How do I do to successfully burn it in XCDroast? You should be able to burn it as .raw under linux. Just treat it as you would any .iso. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: Burning .raw
On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 03:23:57PM +0200, Helgi Örn wrote: On Friday 07 September 2001 14:26, ktb wrote: On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 01:58:50PM +0200, Helgi Örn wrote: Hello all! I just domnloaded the DEMUDI image to give it a try end the file happens to be in a .raw format which I don't know anything about. How do I do to successfully burn it in XCDroast? You should be able to burn it as .raw under linux. Just treat it as you would any .iso. hth, kent Thank's for your reply Kent! I'm afraid that doesn't work, or I might have done something wrong. I had the same problems trying to burn some Solaris 8 images a while ago. Alexis Rodas advice in another mail, using cdrecord, works wonderfully. Ya, I've always used cdrecord myself but thought XCDroast was just a gooy front end for cdrecord. Took a look and see it is a front end for cdwrite and mkisofs. cdrecord works great, does just what you tell it to:) kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: SHIT! Was: Re: procmail don't work
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 06:25:59PM +0200, Timeboy wrote: Hi! What a bad thing. I experimented with my .procmailrec and lost 14 of your mails. ARGHHH!! Next time i will use fetchmail -k for someting like that. Ok! If someone wrote me a message with subject Re: i810 sound?, Re: procmail don't work or Re: isdnlog not working in the time between 15:00 and 16:40 clock Europe Berlin today, please send me again if possible, so i can get a look to this lost mails. That's what archives are for. It takes a bit for them to show up but there are several places to search them on-line. kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: dominate xdm?
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 06:13:37AM +, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote: On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 11:43:07AM -0400, richard wrote: New install and just got X to work. xdm starts twm, which is lame, on VC7 with a login. You can't get out of it on that console. Startx won't work anywhere of cours. I want to use e.g. icewm. How do I reconfigure xdm to default to a different window manager, and/or turn xdm off? I couldn't find the script to change in /etc/X11. I wrote a test .xsession file (did make executable) with just exec xterm. Even though allow-user-xsession does in /etc/X11/Xsession.options, that $HOME/.xsession doesn't prevail and still stuck with twm. If you don't want a graphical login remove xdm with apt-get. To load icewm from xdm or startx, if the executable name is icewn put - exec icewm in ~/.xsession Make sure all exec lines are backgrounded with except one. For example - #!/bin/sh exec xterm exec icewm Used in this manner .xsession doesn't have to be set as executable. FYI I don't think it is a good idea to use exec more than once. In the above case do not exec xterm. I read somewhere (in bash' man pages I think) that exec substitutes the current shell with the exec'ed command. In the case of X the effect would be that when ending the exec'ed command X would also end. In the above case I am not sure what would happen if the user decided that he did not need the xterm any longer, but would like to stay in X. I'm not in front of a Linux box right now, so I can't test what will happen. See man bash or try apropos exec - or just test the above setup of course :o) I've been using the .xsession configuration as listed above for several years with no problems. The reason I've been using .xsession in this manner is because I learned that way in the beginning and it has always worked for me. At any rate I decided to do a little investigative work. Many times I have read .xsession has to be set executable. Mine is not and as far as I can tell doesn't have to be. I tried .xsession with exec and without exec. I didn't see any difference from the standpoint of a user. When I closed out an xterm it went away and didn't bring X down whether exec was used or not. So I took a look at the XFree86 HOWTO. Found what I was looking for - http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XFree86-HOWTO/x116.html Basically what Mr. Raymond says is the last command in the file should be started with exec and not backgrounded with The last command is the window manager. Used in this manner the window manager replaces the xinit process and if the window manager is closed then X will shut down. So with the above knowledge in hand I will retract what I said and offer the revised example:) #!/bin/sh xterm exec icewm kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: exim: how to modify the Sender: header
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 02:53:30PM +0700, Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote: Hello: Thank you for your email. Unfortunately, /etc/email-addresses modifies the RFC-2822's From: header, and NOT the Sender: one :-(. I guess, that this is a Netscape mailer problem, since there is no problem with mutt. Apparently, Netscape put a non FQDN Sender: , and the smarthost adds its FQDN to that header. I'm kind of jumping in the middle here so if my comments don't apply disregard. Have you checked the 'rewrite configuration' section at the bottom of your /etc/exim.conf file? I remember on one occasion I couldn't get it to work with /etc/email-address so I just bypassed the email-address file and got the behavior I was looking for. Try adding something like - [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]bcfrF hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: Quoting styles, cont (Was Re: Fonts in GTK)
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 08:48:22AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: Bud Rogers wrote: Except that in this case we're not talking about a practice that was not previously common or even not so common. We're talking about a practice that was virtually unknown until Microsoft flooded the market with badly broken mail and news clients that make it very difficult to properly quote or attribute anything. True. In this situation, I wouldn't use the word deprecated. I would just say that putting one's reply above the original message makes one look like an idiot. I like that...lol. I remember when I first started using linux I posted to some list, probably this one. I wanted to know how to set Netscape mail to default, like outlook, to appending my text to the top of the message. You can imagine what response I got:D kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: shell script for bash [timeboy@Calculusterix]
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 06:09:05PM +0200, Timeboy wrote: Hi! I like to write a litte shell script that first makes a connection to my ISP and then runs fetchmail. This is no problem for me. But cause it takes some seconds till the connection to ISP is done, the script needs to wait for 5 or 10 seconds bevore it runs fetchmail. How can i do this waiting with a bash kommand? sleep is what your looking for. sleep 10s to wait 10 seconds. Take a look at the fetchmail man page. Fetchmail has several exit codes so you can write your script to say, 'wait 15m when your isp doesn't respond before trying again' and other fun stuff. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: Printing go bye-bye
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 11:16:42AM -0400, Kyle Girard wrote: Somewhere in between now and about hmm a month ago my ability to print has ceased. Here's some background info: Distribution: sid (current as of this morning) kernel 2.4.9 Printer: hp720c I am using magicfilter with pnm2ppa my printcap hasn't changed in a long time.. # This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig. # lp|hp720c|hp:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hp720c:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/pnm2ppa-720-bw-eco-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: I seem to be having some issues with lpd. I run /etc/init.d/lpd stop and it spits Stopping printer spooler: lpd not running. even though ps ax | grep lpd 741 ?S 0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd 782 pts/0S 0:00 grep lpd Try - # kill -9 741 That should kill lpd. Then restart it. I also cannot clear the queue I have three things in there and they will not leave! Any help would be appreciated. Have you tried clearing the queue with - # lprm ? Seems like one time I had to run lpc up all or lpc enable all to get my printing to work. Check the lpc man-page for more info. Some error messages from your end would help if you get any. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: Quoting styles, cont (Was Re: Fonts in GTK)
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 07:27:13PM +0200, Cliff Sarginson wrote: On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 11:52:27AM -0500, ktb wrote: On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 08:48:22AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: Bud Rogers wrote: Except that in this case we're not talking about a practice that was not previously common or even not so common. We're talking about a practice that was virtually unknown until Microsoft flooded the market with badly broken mail and news clients that make it very difficult to properly quote or attribute anything. True. In this situation, I wouldn't use the word deprecated. I would just say that putting one's reply above the original message makes one look like an idiot. I like that...lol. I remember when I first started using linux I posted to some list, probably this one. I wanted to know how to set Netscape mail to default, like outlook, to appending my text to the top of the message. You can imagine what response I got:D kent Did they tell you cannot append something before something else.. (just teasing) Got me :) Lets start another definition thread. Kiddingjustkidding:) kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: is exim the cause for this?
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:52:30PM +0200, Timeboy wrote: Hi! Since i use exim as MTA there is a very strange thing: Everytime if i make with Balsa a reply to all i get the following mail into my mailbox. It is eaqual which mail address of yours i reply. There cames everytime the same message. Only the subjet in first line is identical whith the subject of your mails i reply. And the same happens if i write e new mail to debians user-list. Any idea why this happens? Timo On 2001.09.05 14:40 Mensagem Automatica da TERRA wrote: Your message with subject [Re: i810 sound?] was not delivered to the following recipient: [heiliger]. This recipient's mailbox is full. Sua mensagem com assunto [Re: i810 sound?] nao foi entregue ao seguinte destinatario: [heiliger]. A caixa-postal deste destinatario esta' cheia. snip Check recent archives. This has been answered a few times. Someone on the list has a full mailbox and is returning messages. Send them to /dev/null. kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: XFree86 4.10-4 and huge fonts
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 10:18:03AM +0100, Ross Burton wrote: Hi, I'm running Sid at home, previously X fonts were a normal size (at 100dpi) where a 10pt font was roughly the same size as a 10pixel font. This looks about right on my monitor. However, last night I upgraded to X4 4.10-4 and suddenly the fonts are huge! A 10pt font is about 20 pixels high! (still at 100dpi). I can change the GTK+ font to half cure this problem, but at any time an application requests a specific font it looks terrible again. Has anyone else had this problem? If your 100dpi fonts are on top of your 75dpi fonts in XF86Config or XF86Config-4 then swap them and restart X. There are probably two sets. Put the 75s ahead of both 100s. hth, kent -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. --Albert Einstein
Re: startx on another terminal say, tty8 and then tty9
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 10:25:59PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A]] I tried startx -l:8 for getting XWindows onto tty8 and then Ctrl+Alt+F8 to get there Result : (1)If the machine has not put up XWindows by default , then it comes on tty7 , which is the default. (2) if XWindows comes up as default , then this shows an error , saying that display is already active on 0. B]] Then I did from another user's shell : startx -l:10 for getting XWindows onto tty9 and then Ctrl+Alt+F9 to get there. Result : this shows an error , saying that display is already active on 0. I remember some member of the list confidently assuring members that you can open XWindows display on more than one virtual terminal . $ startx -- :1 should work. By default it will be running on F8 if you have X running on F7 already. hth, kent
Re: kill netscape persistant
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 06:33:13PM +0200, Thomas Halahan wrote: When netscape (4.75) crashes I often still get: PID /usr/lib/netscape/475/navigator/navigator-smotif.real running under processes. even if i try to explicitly kill it with its pid it will not go away. this is really inconvenient as to get rid of this process running in the background i end up shuting down. has anyone any suggestions? You need to kill both the pid and remove the ~/.netscape/lock file. BTW try kill -12 when trying to kill netscape. It is suppose to save bookmarks and such. If that doesn't work then kill -9 it. hth, kent
Re: dominate xdm?
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 11:43:07AM -0400, richard wrote: New install and just got X to work. xdm starts twm, which is lame, on VC7 with a login. You can't get out of it on that console. Startx won't work anywhere of cours. I want to use e.g. icewm. How do I reconfigure xdm to default to a different window manager, and/or turn xdm off? I couldn't find the script to change in /etc/X11. I wrote a test .xsession file (did make executable) with just exec xterm. Even though allow-user-xsession does in /etc/X11/Xsession.options, that $HOME/.xsession doesn't prevail and still stuck with twm. If you don't want a graphical login remove xdm with apt-get. To load icewm from xdm or startx, if the executable name is icewn put - exec icewm in ~/.xsession Make sure all exec lines are backgrounded with except one. For example - #!/bin/sh exec xterm exec icewm Used in this manner .xsession doesn't have to be set as executable. hth, kent
Re: Debian Parititioning Trouble
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 09:58:08PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to set up a machine I just built to run Debian. It installs fine, but LILO says it cannot install itself on the hard disk due to an error, (I forgot what it says precisely, but it says this is a common problem with disks over 500mb.) It suggests making a /boot partition at the start of the disk, but I do not understand how to do that. I tried installing it in the root partition's boot sector and writing an MBR, but the system can't find the OS when I boot with it that way. Does anyone know what I should do? Knowing the error would help. I'm going to guess if you run - # lilo -L it will install. hth, kent
Re: Just a question
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 08:45:29PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
* Brian Schramm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010830 19:41]:
Is there a way that I can take a passwd file and compare the full name data
in it to the email ldap server and give a a list of what it finds and what
it
misses? I am doing this manually but with the number of users that there
are
involved it is going to be really time consuming.
I don't really know what I'm talking about, but this should probably
help you get started:
awk -F : '{print $5}' /etc/passwd | sed -e s/^\([^,]*\).*$/\1/
That will give you a list of just the full names. Pipe that into
something else that will look each one up in the directory service.
Not a complete answer, but it's a start...
Or -
$ cat /etc/passwd | cut -d : -f 5
:)
kent
Re: Just a question
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 08:45:29PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
* Brian Schramm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010830 19:41]:
Is there a way that I can take a passwd file and compare the full name data
in it to the email ldap server and give a a list of what it finds and what
it
misses? I am doing this manually but with the number of users that there
are
involved it is going to be really time consuming.
I don't really know what I'm talking about, but this should probably
help you get started:
awk -F : '{print $5}' /etc/passwd | sed -e s/^\([^,]*\).*$/\1/
That will give you a list of just the full names. Pipe that into
something else that will look each one up in the directory service.
Not a complete answer, but it's a start...
BTW what does [ sed -e s/^\([^,]*\).*$/\1/ ] accomplish? I'm just
grooving on one liners lately and am curious. It seems like -
awk -F : '{print $5}' /etc/passwd is all you need to spit out the full
names.
Thanks,
kent
Re: Just a question
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 10:51:12PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
on Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 11:09:07PM -0500, ktb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 08:45:29PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
* Brian Schramm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010830 19:41]:
Is there a way that I can take a passwd file and compare the full name
data
in it to the email ldap server and give a a list of what it finds and
what it
misses? I am doing this manually but with the number of users that
there are
involved it is going to be really time consuming.
I don't really know what I'm talking about, but this should probably
help you get started:
awk -F : '{print $5}' /etc/passwd | sed -e s/^\([^,]*\).*$/\1/
That will give you a list of just the full names. Pipe that into
something else that will look each one up in the directory service.
Not a complete answer, but it's a start...
BTW what does [ sed -e s/^\([^,]*\).*$/\1/ ] accomplish? I'm just
grooving on one liners lately and am curious. It seems like -
awk -F : '{print $5}' /etc/passwd is all you need to spit out the full
names.
Not quite the same thing:
$ awk -F : '/karsten/ {print $5}' /etc/passwd
Karsten M. Self,,,
$ awk -F : '{print $5}' /etc/passwd | sed -e s/^\([^,]*\).*$/\1/
Karsten M. Self
In the original pattern:
sed -e s/^\([^,]*\).*$/\1/
We have:
-e: expression to evaluate.
s: create a substitution using the following pattern.
/ start of expression
^ beginning of line (actually, beginning of fifth field
\( start a substitution
[^,]* match zero or more instances of any character other than ','
\) end substitution
.*$ match to end of line
/ end of expression
\1 replace with contents of first substitution (the \([^,]*\)
pattern)
/ end expression
sed is for people who think Perl's too easy to understand.
Thanks for the nice explanation:) What was confusing me is the two
/etc/passwd files I ran the various commands against, non of them had
and ','s' in them. I just tried my progeny box here at work and see
fully what the sed expression is used for.
kent
Re: managing /etc/rc?.d
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 03:54:02AM -0500, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 10:03:35PM -0500, ktb wrote: On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 04:03:47AM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote: despite wonderful packages like file-rc, the /etc/rc?.d structure is damn difficult to maintain, is it not? in fact, here is the only tool that i miss from my redhat days - some text-oriented tool which let you specify the order and runlevels of each of the scripts in /etc/init.d. is there something like that? how do you guys manage these? I created the attached script to manage rc*d. It is a little rough as it is my first write but it works for my needs at the moment. Er! Surely that's just a clone of update-rc.d? Your making a joke right? I've never looked at the source for update-rc.d. Have no idea what it is written in. Hmmm, just looked and it's written in Perl. I created it to manage an LFS system. Even if it was a clone as you say, what difference would it make? It's what I use to manage my links to /etc/init.d, which was what the original poster requested. kent
Re: managing /etc/rc?.d
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 09:28:41AM -0500, Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 07:26:57AM -0500, ktb wrote: On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 03:54:02AM -0500, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 10:03:35PM -0500, ktb wrote: I created the attached script to manage rc*d. It is a little rough as it is my first write but it works for my needs at the moment. Er! Surely that's just a clone of update-rc.d? Your making a joke right? I've never looked at the source for update-rc.d. Have no idea what it is written in. Hmmm, just looked and it's written in Perl. I created it to manage an LFS system. Even if it was a clone as you say, what difference would it make? It's what I use to manage my links to /etc/init.d, which was what the original poster requested. I wasn't accusing you of copying it; I was wondering why you didn't just use update-rc.d instead, since it seems to do everything you need and comes with Debian ... That's a relief:) Actually I created it to use on a non-debian system. After having looked and realized that update-rc.d is a Perl script, I could have copied it over to my other system but I didn't know that at the time. The original poster wasn't satisfied with update-rc.d so I just posted what I used as requested, in the hopes it would help out. kent
Re: Configuring ethernet driver
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 07:29:28PM -0500, Gary Setter wrote: Hi, I would like point out a problem with the installation instructions for Debian. Nowhere does the user receive a hint how to configure the Ethernet driver. I wasted considerable time getting my network connection up because I didn't know, 1) what my Ethernet card driver was and 2)what configuration parameters it needed. Sounds to me like it was the most valuable part of the install for you. You learned something:) I did get things up a running. I'd like to feed my experience back into the documentation. Has anyone else had the same problem(s) and if so, where could the documentation be improved to make installation easer? I'm a little confused here. What type of documentation is going to tell you what network card you have in your computer and what configuration parameters that card needs for your machine? If your wishing that the card was auto detected and installed for you then join the development team and start coding. Running linux often forces you to know something about your computer's hardware. Learn where to find the information. If I don't know what network card is in a computer, if it has windows installed, I would look in devices to find out. If that isn't an option I would pop the cover and look on the card for the information. Once you know the card search google.com/linux for the driver name or the debian-user mail list or http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/nic.html, etc. Whether it is hardware/software or the OS you are dealing with, at some point you're going to have to read documentation if you want to run linux. hth, kent
