Re: Bookworm and its kernel: any updates coming?

2024-06-03 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 8:52 PM  wrote:

> On 6/3/24 09:40, Tom Browder wrote:
> > I keep getting emails concerning the serious kernel vulnerability in
> > kernels 5.14 through 6.6.
> >
> > I have not seen any updates and uname -a shows: 6.1.0-13-amd64
> On 6/3/24 09:40, Tom Browder wrote:
> > I keep getting emails concerning the serious kernel vulnerability in
> > kernels 5.14 through 6.6.
> >
> > I have not seen any updates and uname -a shows: 6.1.0-13-amd64
> >
> > Anyone concerned?
>
> I have the same kernel, and no updates.
>
> eben@cerberus:~$ sudo apt-get update
> [sudo] password for eben:
> Hit:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease
> Hit:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease
> Hit:3 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-proposed-updates InRelease
> Hit:4 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports InRelease
> Hit:5 http://deb.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease
> Hit:6 https://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org bookworm InRelease
> Hit:7 https://www.deb-multimedia.org bookworm InRelease
> Reading package lists... Done
>
> eben@cerberus:~$ apt list --upgradable
> Listing... Done
>
> eben@cerberus:~$ apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64
> linux-image-amd64:
>Installed: (none)
>Candidate: 6.1.90-1
>Version table:
>   6.7.12-1~bpo12+1 100
>  100 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports/main amd64
> Packages
>

The above line shows that you have kernel 6.7.12 from Debian Backports
installed. You will not get any new 6.1.x kernel packages because 6.7.12 is
newer and has a priority of 100. To verify your kernel version try
running `uname
-a`. If it doesn't report 6.7.12 then try rebooting.


>   6.1.90-1 500
>  500 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-proposed-updates/main
> amd64 Packages
>  500 http://deb.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main
> amd64 Packages
>   6.1.76-1 500
>  500 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 Packages
>   6.1.67-1 500
>  500 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates/main amd64
> Packages
>
> What am I doing wrong?  Also, I'm not sure how to interpret the apt-cache
> output.
>
>
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>
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Re: The dangers of .mbox mail clients?

2024-06-03 Thread Chris M

Felix Miata wrote:
As I'm up 24/7, I never bother going "offline" in SM. 



What I meant was, I always click in SM:

File > Offline > Work Offline

That way SM isn't doing anything in the background while I am compacting 
folders. OLD bad habit, I know.




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Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread Chris M

debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:

Chris M  wrote:

I love Evolution and Claws to a point. Its a PITA to forward emails
with HTML in them, like the Informed Delivery email I get each morning
letting us know whats coming in the USPS that day.

Claws forwards mails with a text/html part just fine. What's your actual
problem with it?




When the recipient gets the email it looks jumbled and like the days 
USPS mail scans are at the very bottom of the email. instead of under 
the right headers
 Its very weird looking. I would just about have to show you for you to 
get it.



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Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox

2024-06-03 Thread Chris M

Bret Busby wrote:

alpine is available through synaptic, if you want to try it,


Hi Bret,

So you use POP 3 too huh, if your archive goes back 20 years?

I installed ALPINE and couldn't get it to connect to my server. I just 
kept getting " INVALID PASSWORD"


Even though I watched a Youtube video and followed their directions to a T.

imap.fastmail.com/ssl/user=chris

I tried with an app password, still errored.

Then I tried:

imap.fastmail.com/ssl/user=ch...@cwm030.com

used the same app password

FAILED.

Tried typing the password in manually.

FAILED.

Then I tried imap.fastmail.com/ssl/user=FASTMAILUSERNAME

Typed in password.

FAILED

Then I tried imap.fastmail.com/ssl/user=fmusern...@fastmail.com

Typed in password by hand

FAILED.

* shrugs*


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Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox

2024-06-03 Thread Chris M

Bret Busby wrote:

On 4/6/24 03:08, Chris M wrote:
I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox 
format to store emails.

It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client.

Is there any "dangers" I need to know about? Like, keeping the 
mailbox a certain size?

or a certain amount of emails per folder etc?

The last client I used, before I went FULL TIME LINUX, was Eudora 7.1 
on Windows 10. And you had

to keep the .mbx files TINY TINY TINY or else, you'd face corruption.

I always go offline, and then compact my folders after I get done 
reading emails.


Right now my "2024 Archives" folder is at:

Number Of Messages: 4776

Size: 300 MB



I do not know about the mbox file format in email applications, but, 
if you want a powerful email client, as I believe that I have 
previously stated, I use, for downloading, storing, and, archiving 
email, the most powerful email client that I have found - alpine, 
previously known as pine.


The folder properties for the applicable stored messages folder, show
"Total count of files: 13720
Total size of files: 24.5GB"

I think that I have a couple of hundred filters (it could be more), 
involving some thousands of filter parameter field values.





Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.



Hi Bret,

I just googled Alpine and, as y'all say in Australia... CRIKEY! its a 
Terminal Email client that uses IMAP. interesting.




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WAS: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ).. NOW~~The dangers of .mbox mail clients?

2024-06-03 Thread Chris M
I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox 
format to store emails.

It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client.

Is there any "dangers" I need to know about? Like, keeping the mailbox a 
certain size?

or a certain amount of emails per folder etc?

The last client I used, before I went FULL TIME LINUX, was Eudora 7.1 on 
Windows 10. And you had

to keep the .mbx files TINY TINY TINY or else, you'd face corruption.

I always go offline, and then compact my folders after I get done 
reading emails.


Right now my "2024 Archives" folder is at:

Number Of Messages: 4776

Size: 300 MB


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Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-03 Thread Chris M

James H. H. Lampert wrote:
I will say that one should probably not expect perfection from an 
email reader that's named after a cheap wine.


In my experience, T-Bird is the worst email reader I've ever used . . 
. except for *every other* email reader (without a single exception) 
I've tried. I'm particularly irritated with those that have no way to 
disable HTML rendering, and those that have no way to send properly 
formatted plain-text-only emails, those that try to trick you into 
top-posting, and (especially) those mobile email readers that waste 
finite processor resources by insisting on checking your email even 
when closed.


Compared to that, dealing with T-Bird's imperfections is a walk in the 
park.


--
JHHL
(who still hasn't figured out why Ford named a car, and the Air Force 
named its demonstration team, after that same cheap wine)






Thunderbird is the name of a cheap wine?

I love Evolution and Claws to a point. Its a PITA to forward emails with 
HTML in them, like the Informed Delivery email I get each morning

letting us know whats coming in the USPS that day.




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Re: SeaMonkey et al - was - Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Chris M

Bret Busby wrote:

On 3/6/24 04:14, Chris M wrote:

Felix Miata wrote:

It might be worth checking what language the emails are in. Thunderbird



allows you to specify fonts separately for each writing system (e.g. if

you want to specify fonts for Japanese or Greek or Khmer messages, you
can do). For English and comparable languages, you want to set a font
for "Latin" writing system. However, note that there is also "Other
Writing Systems" so I can imagine that, if these emails aren't UTF-8 -
if they're some strange Windows encoding, for example - they might not
be using the font you think you've set.

< SNIP >


BACK STORY:

This all started this last night on the TDE ( Trinity Desktop) mail 
list:


Felix here got to talking about Seamonkey, and it got me interested 
in what it was up to, and I thought " I haven't tried SM in years, 
let me download it"


Well, The browser barely works.=-O:-(

But, The email client that I am typing this email in right now, is 
SeaMonkey's mail client and I am LOVING IT, it reminds me of my 
beloved Netscape Navigator email

client that I use to use back on XP, before AOL killed off Netscape. >:o

Ohhh Yes, I was a huge Netscape fan back then! 8-)O:-)

I was mad for a long time after AOL killed off Netscape 9. I don't 
even remember when that happened? 2008? 2009?


So, I got the email client set up but replies from a certain person 
were TINY TINY TINY.


Interesting enough, Felix I just opened an email from DEP and went to 
"VIEW MESSAGE SOURCE"


and scrolled through the text and found out that DEP ( That's a user 
over on the TDE list ) is in fact using UTF-8.


"Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64"

Then, I just so happen to come across this plug in and WOW, what a 
difference!


I am guessing that everybody else uses regular TB, and me and Felix 
are the only ones that still cling

to Seamonkey?



I use SeaMonkey, with javash*** disabled. Uses much less resources, 
and, less likely to crash.


I use Fartyfox for stuff that requires javash***, and, in that, I have 
a number of security and privacy add-ons; I think, for SeaMonkey, I 
have only the Bluhell firewall add-on and the English-GB dictionary. I 
have and use multiple other web browsers, including Epiphany, Vivaldi, 
and Pale Moon (which I have not used for a while), but, mainly use 
SeaMonkey and Fartyfox.


For email, I use Tbird as a webmail kind of application, for viewing 
and responding to recent email, and, for downloading email, storing, 
archiving, and, responding to old email, I use the most powerful email 
application that I have found; alpine, previously known as pine. I use 
claws mail for one of my email accounts that does not have much 
throughput.


..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..



I've got a soft spot for Evolution ( Due to loving the OLD Outlook-- 
Circa 2003) and now SeaMonkey.


Claws-Mail is " eh, okay" but makes forwarding emails with HTML in them 
a PITA.



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Re: [ SOLVED ] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Chris M

Bret Busby wrote:


Hello, Chris.

We appear to be 13 hours ahead of you (see my signature), so, the time 
here, is now about 0430. I am a creature of the night.







OH man, 4:30 AM! That's way too early for me!





Andika?  Search for it in Synaptic...
:)

I am not sure whether apt find still works.

Package name is fonts-sil-andika

I use only the basic Andika font.



   Ah, okay... Thanks!

   
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[ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Chris M

Felix Miata wrote:

It might be worth checking what language the emails are in. Thunderbird



allows you to specify fonts separately for each writing system (e.g. if

you want to specify fonts for Japanese or Greek or Khmer messages, you
can do). For English and comparable languages, you want to set a font
for "Latin" writing system. However, note that there is also "Other
Writing Systems" so I can imagine that, if these emails aren't UTF-8 -
if they're some strange Windows encoding, for example - they might not
be using the font you think you've set.

< SNIP >


BACK STORY:

This all started this last night on the TDE ( Trinity Desktop) mail list:

Felix here got to talking about Seamonkey, and it got me interested in 
what it was up to, and I thought " I haven't tried SM in years, let me 
download it"


Well, The browser barely works.=-O:-(

But, The email client that I am typing this email in right now, is 
SeaMonkey's mail client and I am LOVING IT, it reminds me of my beloved 
Netscape Navigator email

client that I use to use back on XP, before AOL killed off Netscape. >:o

Ohhh Yes, I was a huge Netscape fan back then! 8-)O:-)

I was mad for a long time after AOL killed off Netscape 9. I don't even 
remember when that happened? 2008? 2009?


So, I got the email client set up but replies from a certain person were 
TINY TINY TINY.


Interesting enough, Felix I just opened an email from DEP and went to 
"VIEW MESSAGE SOURCE"


and scrolled through the text and found out that DEP ( That's a user 
over on the TDE list ) is in fact using UTF-8.


"Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64"

Then, I just so happen to come across this plug in and WOW, what a difference!

I am guessing that everybody else uses regular TB, and me and Felix are the 
only ones that still cling
to Seamonkey?


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[ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Chris M

Bret Busby wrote:


For

Language
Choose the languages used to display menus, messages, and 
notifications from Thunderbird.


I have set English (GB) which, I expect, will confound anything that 
tries to impose characters that are not what I want.



Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.


So, I am guessing that any ENGLISH speaking country uses UTF-8?

US, GB ( Canada, Australia, Probably South Africa, uses GB for spell 
checking)


If not, then what happens to my email? Is it shown in a different font, 
than what you have specified on your end?



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[ SOLVED ] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Chris M

Darac Marjal wrote:
It might be worth checking what language the emails are in. 
Thunderbird allows you to specify fonts separately for each writing 
system (e.g. if you want to specify fonts for Japanese or Greek or 
Khmer messages, you can do). For English and comparable languages, you 
want to set a font for "Latin" writing system. However, note that 
there is also "Other Writing Systems" so I can imagine that, if these 
emails aren't UTF-8 - if they're some strange Windows encoding, for 
example - they might not be using the font you think you've set.




Good Point!



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[ SOLVED ] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Chris M

Bret Busby wrote:


Whilst, at groups.io, two different Tbird email users lists exist; one 
for blind people, and, the other, for those of us who still have 
sufficient sight, and, these messages about Tbird, should, more 
properly, be directed to the Tbird users lists, try the following.


In the Edit -> Settings (that is, Tbird settings, not Account 
settings),  I have


Fonts for (Latin)
Proportional: (Sans-serif)  Size (20)
Serif: Andika
Sans-serif: Andika
Monospace: Andika Size (20)

Font Control
Allow messages to use other fonts - unchecked
Use fixed width font for plain text messages - unchecked

You might prefer a different font to Andika - that is my preference, 
as the most natural font (other than Clean, if someone finds it)


But, try those settings, and find whether that works for you, also. 
They seem to work for me.

Minimum font size: 20




G'DAY BRET! ( err, its prob the middle of the night over there) It's 
2:54 PM CDT here in the US.


But Anyhoo:

Interesting, I don't have that "Andika" font on my PC. Where did you 
find that font at?




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[ SOLVED ] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Chris M

UPDATE:

I might of found a solution to my problem:

I somehow stumbled across:

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/no-small-text/?src=search

Then launched Seamonkey browser and set the " NO SMALL TEXT" settings to:

https://imgur.com/a/DvJaTeG


If you're in the US scroll down to " WESTERN FONTS" and set it to:

https://imgur.com/a/Zdvt0eB


And... VIOLA!

https://imgur.com/a/PaidqMN



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Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

2024-06-02 Thread Chris M
I noticed that in SeaMonkey Mail's latest version 2.53.18.2 that the 
text is small in SOME emails, and in some emails its fine. And I can't 
figure out what to change to make the text a little bigger without 
having to use CTRL ++ on those certain emails.


Any ideas on how?

Here is an example:

Original:
https://imgur.com/a/mFfgBLh


After hitting "CTRL +" 1 time:
https://imgur.com/a/eK1mERq



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Re: Anybody Skype users here?

2024-05-30 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 6:59 PM Juan R.D. Silva 
wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I use Skype installed from Debian official repo.  A couple of days ago
> it refused to update reporting "server timed out". After looking into
> it, I found that MS removed Skype.deb package from their server and
> basically forces everyone to use Snap package instead.
>
> Skype is the only app I would need Snap for on my system. Unfortunately,
> I still need Skype and I do not see any alternative but to concede to MS
> (and Ubuntu?) brute coercion.
>

To hell with Ubuntu, I use Google Voice, Chat and Meet. All three are free
and work great just using the browser.


> Any body installed Snap on their Debian system? Any problems with that
> thing? Any suggestions to use Skype otherwise?
>
> Thanks
>
>

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Re: "Repeaters", etc.

2024-05-29 Thread Paul M Foster
On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 06:47:18AM -0400, Jessica Litwin wrote:

>On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 17:09 Paul M Foster
><[1]pa...@quillandmouse.com> wrote:
> 
>  Folks:
>  At some point this year, I'm moving into a new house, and it is not
>  wired
>  for internet
> 
>From experience, if your house was framed with metal studs, whole house
>wifi will be annoying. You'll likely need multiple access points and
>some ethernet runs anyway. :(

I've almost never seen *home* construction done with metal studs. They're
typical in commercial construction. I don't know if the reason for the
difference is regulations or cost.

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Re: "Repeaters", etc. - FRITZ!Box 7490

2024-05-28 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 03:13:26PM -, Curt wrote:

> On 2024-05-28, Paul M Foster  wrote:
> > but I'd rather not. Since the wifi signal will permeate the whole house, it
> > seemed more reasonable to plant a device in each room which could pick up
> > the wifi, and provide wired internet to that room.
> >
> 
> I don't see why that would be more reliable than just using the wifi
> signal without any intermediary. It's only better wired when you're
> directly connected to the source router, I should think.
> 

I don't know that it would be more *reliable*, but I have a number of
devices which don't have wifi capability, like my desktop computer.

Paul

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Re: "Repeaters", etc.

2024-05-28 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 12:29:37PM -0500, David Wright wrote:

[snip]

> 
> I was under the impression that 3-phase to a private residence
> contravenes building regulations, as that would make 440V available
> for you to electrocute yourself.

Nope. On a 3 phase system with individual phases at 120V, you will never
get 480V. Depending on the way it's wired at the pole, you could get a
maximum of 208V or 240V, phase to phase.

[snip]
 
> I can't help thinking that you can "plant a device" on each computer
> that doesn't have wifi by buying dongles. That is, unless you have
> more than one computer in a room and they must be wire-interconnected.

If I have more than one internet connected device in room, I just put in a
switch, which is then wired to whatever the source of the internet is in
that room.

Paul

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Re: "Repeaters", etc.

2024-05-28 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 01:20:19PM -0400, Michael Grant wrote:

> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 06:11:48PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> > Most houses in the UK are wired to a single phase, so everything is
> > connected together at the consumer unit and powerline works just fine.
> > If you have a specific problem, then there are DIN rail powerline units
> > designed specifically to be mounted in the CU to spread the signal
> > better over ALL the circuits.
> > 
> > If your house has 3-phase wiring, which is unusual in the UK, then you
> > may have a problem because powerline signals do need to be on the same
> > phase.
> 
> In the US, most houses are wired with 240V split-phase giving 120V to
> a mains outlet.  It's a 50/50 crapshot if you are on the same leg in a
> different part of the house.  I don't know if some electricians like
> to put all the mains outlets on the same leg or not.  I don't know if
> these ethernet over power things will work over different legs.  The
> legs share a neutral and ground, so maybe!  I'd be interested to know!

Typically on an electrical install, how many and which circuits go to where
is determined by the lead electrician at install time. This means there's
no telling which "phase" of a 240V system any given room or outlet will be
on.

> 
> Similarrly, over 3-phase, I would suspect the same is true, 3
> different legs around the property with a common neutral and common
> ground.  

I've never see a 3 phase in a house. Common in commercial/industrial,
though.

Paul

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Re: "Repeaters", etc. - FRITZ!Box 7490

2024-05-28 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 08:15:36AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:

> Paul M Foster wrote: 
> > We're moving across the state, and from what I've seen, providers there
> > will do something similar-- provide a router and/or modem which has wired
> > and wireless capabilities. However, because the house is not prewired for
> > internet, we must solve the problem of getting internet to the computers
> > and devices in the house. I'm not a fan of wifi, versus hard-wired
> > internet. It's not as reliable, and it's slower. Thus, I want cat 5/6 to my
> > devices. I could possibly wire the house with cat 5/6 through the attic,
> > but I'd rather not. Since the wifi signal will permeate the whole house, it
> > seemed more reasonable to plant a device in each room which could pick up
> > the wifi, and provide wired internet to that room.
> 
> Concrete blocks wifi very effectively. Are any of your internal,
> load-bearing walls concrete?

Highly doubtful. The house is rectangular, so I'm guessing only the outside
walls are block (this is hurricane country). It wouldn't be cost effective
to use block on the interior of the house.

> 
> > To the contrary, I *do* plan to string cat 5/6 to those devices, just not
> > all the way to the modem/router, which will likely be in the garage.
> 
> The devices wired together in a single room will do well. They
> will have issues talking across rooms, as every round-trip will
> feature four wifi hops (room router to gateway, gateway to room
> router, and then back again).
> 
> You're spending the money on a house, which is $LARGESUM. Spend
> the comparatively small amount of extra money on some form of
> wiring before you move in, so you don't end up frustrated for
> two years before doing it anyway and also having to move
> furniture, listen to concrete drilling, and so forth.

I wonder if I can get an electrical company to put in cat 5? Might be worth
it. The prospect of getting up in the attic and running cat 5 myself just
doesn't appeal to me.

Paul

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Re: "Repeaters", etc. - FRITZ!Box 7490

2024-05-28 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 04:43:38AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote:

> When you say your provider wants to provide you a "wireless router",
> are you implying that you do not have any physically wired
> high-speed internet to this property.  As in, the old copper either isn't
> good enough for decent internet and no fibre yet, no cable modem either?

We've lived in this house for 20 years, and in that time, every internet
provider we've had has provided us with a router and/or modem which has
RJ45 jacks and a wifi signal. In this location, we've either had cable,
fiber or satellite internet. From the router/modem, we have wired
connections to the areas we have computers and cable boxes. Our phones use
the wifi aspect of the modem/router.

We're moving across the state, and from what I've seen, providers there
will do something similar-- provide a router and/or modem which has wired
and wireless capabilities. However, because the house is not prewired for
internet, we must solve the problem of getting internet to the computers
and devices in the house. I'm not a fan of wifi, versus hard-wired
internet. It's not as reliable, and it's slower. Thus, I want cat 5/6 to my
devices. I could possibly wire the house with cat 5/6 through the attic,
but I'd rather not. Since the wifi signal will permeate the whole house, it
seemed more reasonable to plant a device in each room which could pick up
the wifi, and provide wired internet to that room.

> 
> I read your original post thinking you might be thinking of
> "extending" the reach of the "wifi" (which is probably isn't, it's
> probably 4G or 5G in this case) to your rooms.  That's not what you
> do, you don't extend that signal.
> 
> Some providers can provide now a box which has a SIM card in it and
> talks to the provider over 4G/5G cellular.  On the inside of the
> house, they provide a wifi access, just like most other providers.
> Also, most of these routers have an ethernet port on the back so you
> can, if you like, plug in an ethernet switch or another wifi router
> (netgear or TPlink or whatever).
> 
> To be clear, the wifi is the part that is at your property.  There are
> some providers termed WISPs (wireless internet service providers) that
> use wifi (not 4G/5G) to connect you to the internet.  Just being clear
> here that even if they do this, we're not talking about extending that
> wifi signal.  That signal (whether it's really wifi or 4G or 5G or
> even adsl or fibre or cable), it gets terminated at or just before
> your router in your house.  So I'm not talking about that side of your
> connection at all.

I've heard of 5G internet providers, but I'd rather avoid them. There's
only one of those in the area we're moving to.

> 
> So if I understand properly, you have some devices around your home
> that don't have built-in wifi and you are not going to string ethernet
> to them.  

To the contrary, I *do* plan to string cat 5/6 to those devices, just not
all the way to the modem/router, which will likely be in the garage.

> In this case, what I would do would be to consider some
> ethernet-over-powerline (e.g. https://www.tp-link.com/us/powerline/).
> In this case, you'd plug the ethernet on the provided router, and then
> you would put one (or more) of these devices around the house in the
> other rooms and they basically function as an ethernet switch.
> 
> Another solution is a wifi device that functions in "client mode" and
> gives you an ethernet port.  Essentially a device that functions as a
> wifi router in reverse in that the wifi part (WAN) connects to your in
> home wifi network and you plug devices into it on the ethernet ports
> (LAN ports).  Some wifi routers can be configured this way, especially
> older ones.  I have used the older ubiquiti eqiupment like this a lot.
> The newer ubiquiti stuff though looks to be more geared towards
> offices and hotels, probably way overkill for what you need.  However,
> I did find a TP-link product, the "TP-Link AC750 Dual Band Wi-Fi
> Travel Router" which seems to do this out of the box along with many
> other tricks.  There are many other products out there.  Many of these
> devices can also act as wifi repeaters or extenders too.
> 
> There are some other technical considerations like whether you care if
> NAT is running on this little box or not, but for something like a
> television in another room, you probably don't have to care.  NAT
> isn't a consideration with the ethernet over power, they thankfully
> don't do that.
> 
> Me personally, like others on this list, I'd try to find a way to get
> an ethernet cable to the other rooms, but in some cases, this just
> isn't practical.  I have an ethernet cable up the wall outside my
> house and over the top of the roof, not

Re: "Repeaters", etc.

2024-05-27 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 12:11:32PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:

> 
> On 28/05/2024 10:05 am, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > It appears there are two solutions. One is wifi extenders, and one is a
> > mesh network. In both cases, the device sits in the room and communicates
> > via wifi to the modem/router. The devices in the room connect to the device
> > via ethernet cable.
> > 
> > How does that sound? Any dissenting opinions? Any brand recommendations?
> 
> I think you will likely be disappointed by that plan. Mesh networks and WiFi
> extenders don't usually work well, especially WiFi extenders.
> 
> A better plan is to install a POE switch at your router location and run cat
> 5 cable into the ceiling to 3 or 4 locations and put in a POE powered wifi
> access point in the ceiling at each point.

Well, if I'm gonna run cat 5, I might as well just put a jack in each room.
No POE needed. The only reason for wifi at all in this case is so I don't
*have* to run cat 5.

> TP-Link sell a range of prosumer and business access points that would help.
> You can also use the POE switch but put in a POE extractor to power a non
> POE access point.
> 
> Personally I use TP-Link components and they seem reliable enough if lacking
> a bit in features you can use
 
>From what I've read, TP-Link gets good reviews.

Paul

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Re: "Repeaters", etc. - FRITZ!Box 7490

2024-05-27 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 12:43:14PM +1000, George at Clug wrote:

> 
> 
> On Tuesday, 28-05-2024 at 12:05 Paul M Foster wrote:
> > On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 05:09:02PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > 
> > > Folks:
> > > 
> > > At some point this year, I'm moving into a new house, and it is not wired
> > > for internet (WHY aren't new houses wired with Cat5/6/7?). The local
> > > internet provider will likely provide a wireless router, as they all do. 
> > > My
> > > idea is to put a device which receives wireless signal from the
> > > router/modem, and has an RJ45 jack in it in each room. So each room would
> > > have one of these, and the devices in it would be hooked to that device 
> > > via
> > > cat 5e. I hope that's clear.
> > > 
> > > I'd like to shop for such a device, but I don't know what it's called. Can
> > > anyone provide advice, and possibly preferred brand names? I'd appreciate
> > > it.
> > > 
> > 
> > I did some more research, and it looks like I must have misstated the
> > problem.
> > 
> > Let's assume I can't get in the attic and wire the place. Let's assume that
> > I've got a wireless router/modem in, say, the garage. Let's say I have
> > three rooms with devices I want to connect (one way or another) to my
> > router/modem.
> > 
> > It appears there are two solutions. One is wifi extenders, and one is a
> > mesh network. In both cases, the device sits in the room and communicates
> > via wifi to the modem/router. The devices in the room connect to the device
> > via ethernet cable.
> > 
> > How does that sound? Any dissenting opinions? Any brand recommendations?
> > 
> >
> Paul,
> 

> My sister's house has a raked roof (i.e. no cavity), and sits on a
> concrete slab. Without removing sheets of iron from the roof there was no
> simple answer for running a Ethernet cable.
> 
> One suggestion given to us was to run Ethernet cable in conduit on the
> outside of house. Not an elegant solution.
> 
> How many rooms you want to have computers in?  The more rooms you have
> could increase complexity of your solution.
> 
> What we ended up using was Mesh system. As a proof of concept I used two
> FRITZ!Box 7490 as I own two of these devices, and very much like them.
> One FRITZ!Box 7490 was used as the router/modem, the other as the
> repeater (this modem has dual features). This worked quite well.
> Fortunately my sister does not play first person shooter games as I
> believe Mesh systems slightly increase network latency.
> https://avm.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Global/Produkte/FRITZBox/7490/Special_en/7490_special_en.html
> 
> We found that walls are too good at soaking up Wifi signals. The
> distances between modems and computers was the main challenge.
> 
> If you had the money, I would get a cable installer to do a proper job of
> running cables. I used to be an Electrician, hence I am familiar with
> running wires, so in my own home I ran Ethernet cable where ever needed
> (and we have a cavity ceiling). I am guessing this option is not possible
> for your situation.

Coincidentally, I used to be an electrician too, but we almost never ran
low voltage except for doorbells.

The house in question appears to have a generous attic, but they've blown
in two feet of insulation I'd rather not disturb. And that much insulation
makes the headers of walls very hard to find. Also, I'm not in my 20s
anymore, and crawling around in attics is difficult.

In the house I'm living in now, I did go into the attic years ago with cat
5e and wired up the living room.

FWIW, in the house we're buying, I need internet (wired) in the living
room, bedroom 2 and bedroom 4. Also, it's concrete block construction
(outer walls).

Paul

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Re: "Repeaters", etc.

2024-05-27 Thread Paul M Foster
On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 05:09:02PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote:

> Folks:
> 
> At some point this year, I'm moving into a new house, and it is not wired
> for internet (WHY aren't new houses wired with Cat5/6/7?). The local
> internet provider will likely provide a wireless router, as they all do. My
> idea is to put a device which receives wireless signal from the
> router/modem, and has an RJ45 jack in it in each room. So each room would
> have one of these, and the devices in it would be hooked to that device via
> cat 5e. I hope that's clear.
> 
> I'd like to shop for such a device, but I don't know what it's called. Can
> anyone provide advice, and possibly preferred brand names? I'd appreciate
> it.
> 

I did some more research, and it looks like I must have misstated the
problem.

Let's assume I can't get in the attic and wire the place. Let's assume that
I've got a wireless router/modem in, say, the garage. Let's say I have
three rooms with devices I want to connect (one way or another) to my
router/modem.

It appears there are two solutions. One is wifi extenders, and one is a
mesh network. In both cases, the device sits in the room and communicates
via wifi to the modem/router. The devices in the room connect to the device
via ethernet cable.

How does that sound? Any dissenting opinions? Any brand recommendations?

Paul

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"Repeaters", etc.

2024-05-27 Thread Paul M Foster
Folks:

At some point this year, I'm moving into a new house, and it is not wired
for internet (WHY aren't new houses wired with Cat5/6/7?). The local
internet provider will likely provide a wireless router, as they all do. My
idea is to put a device which receives wireless signal from the
router/modem, and has an RJ45 jack in it in each room. So each room would
have one of these, and the devices in it would be hooked to that device via
cat 5e. I hope that's clear.

I'd like to shop for such a device, but I don't know what it's called. Can
anyone provide advice, and possibly preferred brand names? I'd appreciate
it.

Paul

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Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Paul M Foster
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 05:22:13PM +0100, Joe wrote:

> On Fri, 24 May 2024 11:40:30 -0400
> Greg Wooledge  wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 05:22:14PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote:
> > > Am 24.05.2024 um 17:17:45 Uhr schrieb to...@tuxteam.de:
> > >   
> > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 04:49:18PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > [...]
> > > >   
> > > > > If you operate mail servers, you must have a FQDN. .lan can't be
> > > > > used for the global DNS stuff, so set a proper FQDN that
> > > > > belongs to you.
> > > > 
> > > > I think this is wrong in that sweeping generality.  
> > > 
> > > In the case it should communicate with other MTAs in the internet,
> > > this will be true because many of them require a resolvable (also
> > > reverse) FQDN in HELO/EHLO that matches the IPv4/IPv6 addresses of
> > > the server.  
> > 
> > Most MTAs do not look in /etc/hosts when reading their configuration.
> > Whatever name they identify with (in the HELO or EHLO command) comes
> > from some MTA-specific configuration file.
> > 
> > Thus, the contents of /etc/hosts are for *other* things, not related
> > to MTA configuration.  Just being able to resolve your own hostname
> > to any address that "works" is the goal.  127.0.1.1 works well for
> > this, which is why Debian uses it as the default.  If you've got a
> > static LAN address, you can use that instead.
> > 
> 
> Long ago, lo used to be just 127.0.0.1, which is what most people would
> try to ping to check localhost, and what appeared in /etc/hosts. There
> is some subtle reason, which I used to know but have now long forgotten,
> why Debian started using 127.0.1.1 in /etc/hosts instead. As far as I'm
> aware, any 127. address will resolve to localhost.
> 

My understanding is that 127.0.1.1 is used for hostnames defined by the
user on setup. In setup, you don't specify an IP for your box, so the
hostname goes in the 127.0.1.1. Later, the user can edit the hosts file to
specify a fixed IP if he has one.

Paul

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Re: Aliases and OpenSMTPD

2024-05-24 Thread Paul M Foster
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 06:40:09PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:45:56AM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > Folks:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > If I send an email directly to pa...@yosemite.mars.lan from buckaroo, it
> > arrives. That means this config can do what it's designed to do, basically.
> > However, mails to "root" on buckaroo don't get to yosemite. They should,
> > because my /etc/aliases table looks like this:
> > 
> > ---
> > ...
> > rootpa...@yosemite.mars.lan
> > ---
> 
> Still out of my depth with OpenSMTPD, but... good ol' aliases,of sendmail
> lore would have a colon after the "root" up there. The MTAs I know of
> all have inherited that.

There is a colon in my aliases file. I just omitted it in the email.

Paul

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Re: Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Paul M Foster
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:40:30AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 05:22:14PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote:
> > Am 24.05.2024 um 17:17:45 Uhr schrieb to...@tuxteam.de:
> > 
> > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 04:49:18PM +0200, Marco Moock wrote:
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > > > If you operate mail servers, you must have a FQDN. .lan can't be
> > > > used for the global DNS stuff, so set a proper FQDN that belongs to
> > > > you.  
> > > 
> > > I think this is wrong in that sweeping generality.
> > 
> > In the case it should communicate with other MTAs in the internet, this
> > will be true because many of them require a resolvable (also reverse)
> > FQDN in HELO/EHLO that matches the IPv4/IPv6 addresses of the server.
> 
> Most MTAs do not look in /etc/hosts when reading their configuration.
> Whatever name they identify with (in the HELO or EHLO command) comes
> from some MTA-specific configuration file.
> 
> Thus, the contents of /etc/hosts are for *other* things, not related to
> MTA configuration.  Just being able to resolve your own hostname to any
> address that "works" is the goal.  127.0.1.1 works well for this, which
> is why Debian uses it as the default.  If you've got a static LAN address,
> you can use that instead.

I should note that this is apparently not true for OpenSMTPD. In fact,
there is or was a bug in it, such that if you had two instances of
127.0.0.1 in your hosts file, OpenSMTPD would fail with a message that it
couldn't listen on address 127.0.0.1 because it was already in use (or
somesuch).

Paul

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Aliases and OpenSMTPD

2024-05-24 Thread Paul M Foster
Folks:

This may require someone who's familiar with OpenSMTPD. I have a machine
which does backups (buckaroo) and a desktop (yosemite) which is my main
machine. When anacron kicks off the backup, it should create an email for
root to detail what happened. Buckaroo is headless, so I want that email to
come to me at yosemite. (All this is on a LAN.)

I'm using OpenSMTPD on buckaroo to handle mail. Here's my config: 

---
#   $OpenBSD: smtpd.conf,v 1.10 2018/05/24 11:40:17 gilles Exp $

# This is the smtpd server system-wide configuration file.
# See smtpd.conf(5) for more information.

table aliases file:/etc/aliases
table secrets file:/etc/secrets

listen on localhost

action "relay" relay host smtp+notls://@yosemite.mars.lan:25 auth 

match from local for any action "relay"
---

If I send an email directly to pa...@yosemite.mars.lan from buckaroo, it
arrives. That means this config can do what it's designed to do, basically.
However, mails to "root" on buckaroo don't get to yosemite. They should,
because my /etc/aliases table looks like this:

---
...
rootpa...@yosemite.mars.lan
---

But it appears that OpenSMTPD doesn't consult this table unless explicitly
instructed to. According to man smtpd.conf(5), you can tell it to scan
through aliases, but only on local delivery, not if the email is outbound.

So does anyone know how to make OpenSMTPD do alias conversions on outbound
mail? Or alternatively, is there a way to hack Debian so that mails
generated from root processes to go an offsite email rather than just root?

Paul


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Address 127.0.1.1

2024-05-24 Thread Paul M Foster
Folks:

In my /etc/hosts file, there's a line:

127.0.1.1 yosemite.mars.lan yosemite

I think Debian put it there.

Later in the file, I've got:

192.168.254.30  yosemite.mars.lan   yosemite

So there are two entries for the same (my) machine. Is this a problem?
Specifically, could it cause problems with email (Exim4 or OpenSMTPD)?

Paul

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Re: OpenSMTPD can't parse smarthost

2024-05-23 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 01:50:21PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

> On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 12:08 PM Paul M Foster  
> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 12:54:31AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> >[...]
> > > Also, I think you should be using *.home.arpa, and not *.lan.
> > > home.arpa is reserved for private use by ICANN and the IETF. I suspect
> > > *.lan is not reserved for private use.
> >
> > On a LAN, you can use anything you like. I've used .mars.lan for decades
> > with no difficulty.
> 
> Citation, please.
> 

I have none. But contrary to whatever the Deities Of The Internet say, I've
been successfully using *.mars.lan for decades, and others before that,
like *.venus.lan. On a LAN where addresses are not interenet routable, you are, 
de
facto, able to use what you prefer. As long as your /etc/hosts file and
your router agree, there is no code in any application I'm aware of which
prohibits the practice.

If I ever set up a totally new LAN, I may go with *.home though. Or maybe
*.local, as I've heard Macs like that.

Paul

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Re: OpenSMTPD can't parse smarthost

2024-05-23 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 07:19:08AM +0200, Kamil Jońca wrote:

> Kamil Jońca  writes:
> 
> [...]
> > [...]
> >> action "relay" relay host smtp+notls://pa...@yosemite.mars.lan:25 auth 
> >> 
> >>
> >
> > I have some opensmtpd config around and this line should work.
> > My suspects are:
> > 1. whitespaces / end lines - have you test your config with xxd to check
> > if there CRLF for rexample ?
> > 2. do you have a line
> >
> > --8<---cut here---start->8---
> > paulf username:password
> > --8<---cut here---end--->8---
> >
> > in your secrets file? 
> > HTH
> 
> After closer look I have another doubt:
> https://man.openbsd.org/smtpd.conf
> says:
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> The label corresponds to an entry in a credentials table, as documented
> in table(5). It is used with the “smtp+tls” and “smtps” protocols for
> authentication. Server certificates for those protocols are verified by
> default.
> 
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
> So if you use smtp+notls or pure smtp - maybe 'paulf@' is wrong
> here?

I think you may be right.

Paul

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Re: OpenSMTPD can't parse smarthost

2024-05-23 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 12:54:31AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

> On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 12:43 AM Paul M Foster  
> wrote:

[snip]
> 
> On the video server, run nslookup and see if it can resolve yosemite.mars.lan.

Nslookup fails. However, yosemite.mars.lan is in the hosts file and you
can successfully ping it. It has a fixed (local) IP, which was set in the
router. I don't understand why nslookup fails when buckaroo knows who
yosemite is.

> 
> Looking at the string smtp+notls://pa...@yosemite.mars.lan:25, it
> looks more like a url than a hostname. Maybe that is confusing your
> mail agent.

However, this is standard usage, according to the smptd.conf(5) man page.

> 
> Also, I think you should be using *.home.arpa, and not *.lan.
> home.arpa is reserved for private use by ICANN and the IETF. I suspect
> *.lan is not reserved for private use.

On a LAN, you can use anything you like. I've used .mars.lan for decades
with no difficulty.

Paul

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Re: OpenSMTPD can't parse smarthost

2024-05-23 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 06:38:11AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 09:37:18PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > Folks:
> > 
> > Here's a shot in the dark. I've looked up and down the internet, and can't
> > find a solution.
> 
> [...]
> 
> > "warn: Failed to parse smarthost smtp+notls://pa...@yosemite.mars.lan:25"
> > 
> > Note that the "protocol" doesn't matter. I can use "smtp" alone as the
> > protocol, and it still won't parse. And yes, yosemite.mars.lan is in my
> > local hosts file.
> 
> But "p...@yosemite.mars.lan" doesn't look like a host (unless you are
> trying to sneak in the creds in the URL -- then I'd expect something
> like user:pass@host). No idea how opensmtp works and whether it tries
> to parse credentials off the URL.
> 
> Have you tried leaving out the "paul@" part? Do you have access credentials
> elsewhere in your config (typically they are in a separate file to better
> control access to that).

The smarthost URL is straight out of the man page. The "paulf@" part allows
OpenSMTP to figure which credential in the "secrets" file to use.

However, I took your advice and lopped off the "paulf@" from the URL, and
managed to get an email through. Go figure.

Paul


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OpenSMTPD can't parse smarthost

2024-05-22 Thread Paul M Foster
Folks:

Here's a shot in the dark. I've looked up and down the internet, and can't
find a solution.

I have a mini PC which just serves up videos. Daily it backs up to an
attached drive. This happens with a script in /etc/cron.daily, which
typically emails results to root. In my case it's aliased to me. I have
OpenSMTPD installed with this config:

---

#   $OpenBSD: smtpd.conf,v 1.10 2018/05/24 11:40:17 gilles Exp $

# This is the smtpd server system-wide configuration file.
# See smtpd.conf(5) for more information.

table aliases file:/etc/aliases
table secrets file:/etc/secrets

listen on localhost

action "relay" relay host smtp+notls://pa...@yosemite.mars.lan:25 auth 

match from local for any action "relay"

---

Note: yosemite is my desktop machine; that where I want the mail to be
sent. "paulf" is a tag in the secrets file. Note that this connection
between the mini PC (buckaroo) and yosemite should be a plain text
connection, very simple. My username and password are in the secrets file.

When I attempt to send a test message to check this all works (via swaks or
mail), I get an error message in the /var/log/mail.log file which says:

"warn: Failed to parse smarthost smtp+notls://pa...@yosemite.mars.lan:25"

Note that the "protocol" doesn't matter. I can use "smtp" alone as the
protocol, and it still won't parse. And yes, yosemite.mars.lan is in my
local hosts file.

Any help would be appreciated.

Paul


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Re: Quickemu Problem

2024-05-19 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 5:53 PM Stephen P. Molnar 
wrote:

> I have just installed installed Quickemu v-6.1.4.
>
>  quickget windows 11 ran as it should without any errors or warnings.
>  However:
>  (base) comp@Abanormal:~/VM$ quickemu --vm windows-10.conf
>  ~/VM ~/VM
>  Quickemu 4.9.4 using /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 v7.2.9
>   - Host: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) running Linux 6.1
> (Abanormal)
>   - CPU:  AMD FX(tm)-8320 Eight-Core Processor
>   - CPU VM:   1 Socket(s), 2 Core(s), 2 Thread(s), 4G RAM
>  ERROR! You have insufficient RAM to run windows in a VM
>  (base) comp@Abanormal:~/VM$
>
> I am somewhat confused as:
>
>  (base) comp@Abanormal:~$ free -ght
> totalusedfree  shared
> buff/cache   available
>  Mem:   7.7Gi   2.3Gi   225Mi 34Mi
> 5.4Gi   5.3Gi
>  Swap:  975Mi50Mi   925Mi
>   Total: 8.6Gi   2.4Gi   1.1Gi
>

All your RAM is being used as buffer/cache. Run the following command to
free up ram:

sudo sync && sh -c "/usr/bin/echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches"


> The strange thing is that I have installed Windows 10 using QEMU/KVM
> virt-manager without any RAM problems at all.
>
> Some guidance would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
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> (614)312-7528 (c)
> Skype:  smolnar1
>
>

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Re: Spurious messages at the console

2024-05-11 Thread Paul M Foster
On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 07:54:28AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 05:30:44PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > Folks:
> > 
> > I've installed Debian (latest) without X on a small form factor PC, and
> > typically SSH into it, though I also have a keyboard and monitor
> > temporarily connected to it.
> > 
> > I'm getting spurious error messages in groups on the monitor connected to
> > it. They look like:
> > 
> > [76056.389126] pcieport :00:1c.0: PCIe Buss Error: severity=Corrected,
> > type=Physical Layer, (Reciever ID)
> > 
> > That's just one line. Others are related but different. These happen every
> > few minutes, and only on the monitor, not where I'm SSHed in.
> 
> I don't know exactly what this is doing (to my naïve eye it looks like
> some part of the PCI bus is doing things the kernel doesn't expect but
> thinks it can fix) but...
> 
> > It would be neat to know what's going wrong, and if you can come up with a
> > reason, I'd be interested. But I'm not really fixated on that. Instead,
> > what I'm interested in is how to make them stop.
> 
> ...for that try "dmesg -D" (see man dmesg). You can also try to mess
> with the value of /proc/sys/kernel/printk, documented, e.g. here [1],
> to set it permanently.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> [1] https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/core-api/printk-basics.html
> or, of course, locally. If you are in Debian, part of the linux-doc
> package, in /usr/share/doc/linux-doc/html/core-api/printk-basics.html
> 

Excellent advice. Thanks.

Here's an oddity. The following commands are equivalent, according to the
dmesg(1) man page:

dmesg -n 1 and dmesg -n emerg

But according to every document I've viewed, "emerg" is code for 0, not 1.
If anyone can explain, I'd be interested.

Paul

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Spurious messages at the console

2024-05-10 Thread Paul M Foster
Folks:

I've installed Debian (latest) without X on a small form factor PC, and
typically SSH into it, though I also have a keyboard and monitor
temporarily connected to it.

I'm getting spurious error messages in groups on the monitor connected to
it. They look like:

[76056.389126] pcieport :00:1c.0: PCIe Buss Error: severity=Corrected,
type=Physical Layer, (Reciever ID)

That's just one line. Others are related but different. These happen every
few minutes, and only on the monitor, not where I'm SSHed in.

It would be neat to know what's going wrong, and if you can come up with a
reason, I'd be interested. But I'm not really fixated on that. Instead,
what I'm interested in is how to make them stop.

Any help would be appreciated.

Paul

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Re: Debian@IBMx3550

2024-04-23 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 5:35 PM Greg  wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I got refurb IBM x3550 M3 7944 server and I'm a bit lost. Is there any
> Linux/Debian software (some gui would be nice) to monitor fan speed,
> temperatures, voltages, disks.. ?
>

KDE has a bunch of monitoring widgets. Do you have a GUI Installed?



> Thanks in advance for any help
> Greg
>
>

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Re: Teclat catala i accents volats

2024-04-22 Thread Josep M. Ferrer
A veure, jo tinc un portàtil amb un entorn molt semblat, tot i que el 
teclat és en anglès: Debian 12, KDE, Wayland.


A l'Arranjament del sistema - Dispositius d'entrada -> Teclat, tinc el 
model de teclat «Generic | PC genèric de 104 tecles». Com que la meva 
disposició és en anglès, a la pestanya Disposicions tinc un mapa US, 
disposició Anglès (EUA), variant Anglès (EUA, intl. amb tecles mortes)


I les vocals accentuades em funcionen correctament.

Si tens una distribució de teclat en espanyol, crec que t'hauria de 
funcionar correctament indicant que tens un mapa ES amb Espanyol i 
variant «Català (Espanya, L amb punt volat)».


A veure si així funciona.

Salut,

Josep M. Ferrer


El 22/4/24 a les 14:41, Xavier De Yzaguirre i Maura ha escrit:


Bon dia, Joan,

 1. Ni a terminal ni a l'entorn gràfic, les tecles d'accent tancat,
obert o dièresi fan res sobre les vocals
 2. La tecla ALTGR funciona bé i em dona caràcters alternatius amb
quasi totes les tecles:
€[]|@#~½¬{[]}\\@ſ€@@@ſ€¶ŧ←↓→øþ[]]}}}æßðđŋħĸħĸŀ{{{«»¢¢„„“”““””¢¢„“”µ••··
tant a l'entorn gràfic com al terminal (konsole)
 3. Ja et dic que a tots els entorns
 4. He creat un nou usuari i tampoc apareixen els accents

Et dona alguna pista?

Salut i gracies.

Xavier De Yzaguirre
xdeyzaguirre(at)gmail(dot)com
+34 629 953 830
El 18/4/24 a les 16:45, Joan Montané ha escrit:



Missatge de Xavier De Yzaguirre i Maura  del 
dia dc., 10 d’abr. 2024 a les 13:49:


Bon dia,

Fa uns dies que no trobo els accents, he reconfigurat els
locales, pero no hi ha forma de poder escriure una vocal accentuada.

Utilitzo un portatil msi configurat amb el teclat generic de 86
tecles


Hola,

Algunes preguntes per a intentar esbrinar què passa i quina pot ser 
la causa del problema:


- Què passa si escrius "accent obert"+a? Apareix «`a» o només «a»?
-  La tecla AltGR funciona bé? P. ex. AltGr+e genera €?
- Et passa només en mode gràfic o també en terminal pur?
- Has provat amb un altre usuari? Permetria acotar el problema al teu 
perfil.


Alguna vegada, fa temps, havia tingut problemes amb el mètode 
d'entrada («input method»)
Aleshores ho vaig arreglar "tornant" a ibus, però ja fa molt de temps 
i no sé ni com ho tinc ni quin és l'estàndard (suposo que XIM).
Una mica de context: 
https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard#Modern_keyboard_configuration_.28IM.29


En fi, espero que el problema estigui relacionat amb el teu perfil 
d'usuari, seria més fàcil de corregir ;)


Salut!
Joan Montané




Re: Marking as spam

2024-04-18 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On 18/04/2024 12:43, Hans wrote:

But the "Sorry" mail I did send without the spam tag. However, I get it WITH
the spamtag, as all mails get the DCIM=false tag in the header (created by the
debian servers) and megamailservers.eu add the SPAM tag.


Or you could use a less shitty mail service, because failed DKIM (I 
assume that's what you mean by DCIM=false) does not mean that an email 
is a spam.


Conversely, I see a lot of spams that have a valid DKIM signature.

Moreover, I don't think the Debian list servers validate DKIM. It's 
probably your host that is doing so.


And finally, your own mails fail DKIM, so for a mail server that seems 
to give so much importance to DKIM, they could at least set it up right.


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Re: variables in bash

2024-03-28 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 10:37:25AM +0100, Hans wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> just an easy question:
> 
> What is the difference (if any) between the following two variables in a 
> shellfile in bash:
> 
> 1. mypath=/home/user1/Tools/

Here you are assigning a value to the variable "mypath". You can surround
"/home/user1/Tools" with quotes if you like, but it is not strictly
necessary.

> 
> and $mypath

Here you are actually *using* the variable "mypath".

Here is another example:

NAME="paulf"
echo "My name is $NAME."

which will yield:

My name is paulf.


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Re: debian-niggers and debian-lgbt projects.

2024-03-21 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 06:47:10PM +, jmax wrote:

> Dear Brothers and Sisters:
> 
> I am interested in starting some debian projects.  As a homosexual,
> debian-using, black, I am surprised at the low numbers of black and/or LGBT
> members of the debian community. I believe that starting debian-niggers, and
> debian-gay or debian-lgbt projects would help to increase participation of
> the respective parties in the debian community.

I'm not your brother or sister, and not part of your demographic, and I
really don't care whether you do or don't start a SIG on black or LGBT
Debian interests.

However, the word "nigger" is plainly offensive. It's been offensive for
decades, and most recently, whites have been entirely prohibited from
using the word, upon pain of death, while blacks readily use it with
impunity.

If you're going to start a SIG for black/LGBT Debianistas, I'd politely
request you do so without resorting to inflammatory language. I imagine the
term "debian-blacks" would serve just as well without aggravating an already
strongly divided world.

In fact, I suspect the less we pay attention to skin color, the better off
we all will be.

Paul

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Re: DoS protection solutions for Debian Servers ?

2024-03-14 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:57 AM Michel Verdier  wrote:

> On 2024-03-13, Jean-François Bachelet wrote:
>
> > what solutions  (free or not) do you debian servers pros use (for pro or
> > private servers) ?
>
> You could try suricata. Same as snort but with another community for
> upgrading rules.
>

I use Suricata, it works well after configuring the suricata.yaml file.
SNORT is no longer available in Debian Bookworm for some reason.

Using nftables instead of iptables also could reduce high trafic
> impact. Especially using ingress filtering. I don't remember if fail2ban
> uses nftables.
>

I heard Fail2Ban is a pain on Bookworm due to logging only using journald.

I use FirewallD, it works well. I use the drop zone to drop all inbound
traffic by default and only allow specific ports.

You may want to check out PSAD. psad/stable 2.4.6-3 amd64 Port Scan Attack
Detector. I am not sure how well it works with JournalD. It may require
RSyslog like fail2ban.



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Re: Committing git working tree with other git repos

2024-03-13 Thread Paul M Foster
On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 07:29:39PM +0100, john doe wrote:

> On 3/13/24 16:04, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > Folks:
> > 
> > I have a /home/paulf/stow directory with contains subdirectories for each
> > of the packages whose dotfiles I want to manage, like:
> > 
> > /home/paulf/stow/alacritty
> > 
> > In each subdirectory, I have all the config files for that packages, under
> > git management. This means that the directory will look like this:
> > 
> > /home/paulf/stow/alacritty/.git
> > /home/paulf/stow/alacritty/.config/alacritty/alacritty.yml
> > 
> > This works well with stow (configs are now symlinks in $HOME).
> > 
> > I'd like to copy all of this to a git repo on gitlab. You would think you
> > could go to the ~/stow directory, "git init", then "git add" each
> > directory, and all is good. However, git looks inside the directories and
> > sees there are already .git directories there, and refuses to add the
> > directories and their contents to its repo. Instead, it wants you to use
> > "submodules", to wit:
> > 
> > git submodule add ./alacritty
> > 
> > This adds an *empty* alacritty subdirectory to the git repo, which isn't
> > useful.
> > 
> > I need a way to bring all these subdirectories and their contents under a
> > git repo so I can send it to gitlab. Any suggestions?
> > 
> > 
> 
> Sometime, learning something new is better than trying to get your own
> way! ;^)
> 
> I can only suggest you to dig into Git submodules.

I've read through https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Tools-Submodules , and
it appears that submodules aren't really made for what I'm trying to do.
According to the docs, a submodule is more or less a link to an external
code repo. When used properly with the proper commands, the remote code can
be reconstituted. However, if you read the above, this won't work for my
purposes. That's why I asked the original question.

Paul

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Committing git working tree with other git repos

2024-03-13 Thread Paul M Foster
Folks:

I have a /home/paulf/stow directory with contains subdirectories for each
of the packages whose dotfiles I want to manage, like:

/home/paulf/stow/alacritty

In each subdirectory, I have all the config files for that packages, under
git management. This means that the directory will look like this:

/home/paulf/stow/alacritty/.git
/home/paulf/stow/alacritty/.config/alacritty/alacritty.yml

This works well with stow (configs are now symlinks in $HOME).

I'd like to copy all of this to a git repo on gitlab. You would think you
could go to the ~/stow directory, "git init", then "git add" each
directory, and all is good. However, git looks inside the directories and
sees there are already .git directories there, and refuses to add the
directories and their contents to its repo. Instead, it wants you to use
"submodules", to wit:

git submodule add ./alacritty

This adds an *empty* alacritty subdirectory to the git repo, which isn't
useful.

I need a way to bring all these subdirectories and their contents under a
git repo so I can send it to gitlab. Any suggestions?

Paul

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Re: Bind9 local DNS not forwarding query to public DNS

2024-03-12 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On 12/03/2024 12:48, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:

   Dear All,
Need your experience advice, We have a BIND9 DNS server that operates 
both privately and publicly for the domain example xyz.com 
<http://xyz.com/>. I use the private DNS for certain secure nodes on our 
local network. I want all VPN users to be able to resolve these secure 
nodes using our local DNS, which is functioning correctly.


So I force assign all VPN user local DNS so that they can access the 
secure records and local DNS can forward their query to public DNS in 
case the record is not found in the zone file.


  locally everything is working just fine, the issue arises when a VPN 
user queries an A record that is on public. For example, if 
"secure.xyz.com <http://secure.xyz.com/>" has a local entry in the zone 
file, it works as expected. However, when the entry is not present, I 
expect BIND to conditionally forward the query to a remote DNS server 
and resolve it for the VPN client. Unfortunately, this is not happening. 
BIND only searches for entries that are available in the local zone file 
and then times out. Here are my configuration files.


here is my bind config


  options {
              directory "/var/cache/bind";
              recursion yes;                   // Enable DNS recursion
              allow-recursion { localhost; };


You're only allowing recursion from localhost. I guess you need to allow 
the internal VPN addresses here. Maybe that's the (commented) acl below, 
so try something like


allow-recursion { "trusted"; };

(Maybe the acl needs to be defined before it's used, I'm not sure.)


              //acl trusted {192.168.1.0/24; };


But remember to add localhost to the acl, so that local processes can 
also use the recursive server.



              querylog yes;
              allow-transfer { none; };       // Disable zone transfers by 
default
              allow-query { any; };           // Allow queries from any IP 
address
              forwarders {
                   8.8.8.8;
              };
              dnssec-validation auto;
              listen-on-v6 { any; };
      };

       zone "xyz.com" {
           type master;
           file "/etc/bind/db.xyz.com";
           forwarders {
               8.8.8.8;
               8.8.4.4;                    // Additional forwarder (optional)
           };
       };



Thanks,

Yousuf




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Re: how to wiki

2024-03-05 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 04:15:20PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote:

> how do i access the debian wiki
> https://wiki.debian.org/
> all i get is
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Forbidden
> 
> You are not allowed to access this!
> 

Check your firewall, proxies or other items which could restrict your
access. I'm in the southeastern U.S. and am easily able to access that URL
with no problems.

Paul

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Re: Debian bookwork 12.4 installation wifi card not being detected

2024-02-10 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:07 PM Exeonz  wrote:

> Hey thanks for your time in advance. I'm trying to install debian bookworm
> 12.4 on MacbookAir7,2 that doesn't have an ethernet port and the installer
> doesn't recognize it's wifi card and what drivers it needs for the card to
> work. From searching the web I found that it uses Broadcom BCM 4360
> wireless network adapter and requires broadcom-sda-dkms firmware drivers to
> function. The installer doesn't detect the wifi card and none of the
> drivers from the select list work and when I use 2nd bootable USB formatted
> as FAT32 with broadcom-sda-dkms firmware drivers saved to root and firmware
> folder it doesn't accept drivers and gives out error "ethernet card not
> found" I've looked through entire debian wiki and other wikis and forums
> like arch wiki and found no answers anywhere. I have successfully installed
> ubuntu on this macbook air and it works just fine with the wifi card. Could
> you please shed some light on how I can possibly install debian on this
> macbook air.
>
> Some other things that I've tried that didn't work.
> Every available driver from the install list.
> Older non-free debian version 11.8.0 because I thought it would have
> drivers but it didn't work either.
> Downloading all firmware from https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/firmware/
> onto USB formatted as FAT32 in root and firmware folder
> Using command like during installation for extra option to load drivers
> off USB. (this command doesn't seem to work on bookwork 12.4)
> https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware
>
>
>
> *Installation+Archive+USBStickpreseed/early_command="modprobe vfat ; sleep
> 2 ;mount /dev/disk/by-label/FIRMWARE /media ;cp -a /media/firmware /lib"*
> Using rtl8812au-5.2.20 firmware drivers
> Ripping out firmware drivers from ubuntu install that works fine with this
> wifi card and putting it on same USB
> *bcmwl-kernel-source_6.30.223.271+bdcom-0ubuntu10~22.04.1_amd64*
>
Try installing Trixie
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/. Debian 12
is starting to show its age. It uses the LTS kernel 6.1. You really have
two choices:

1. Install Debian Bullseye with a working USB WiFi adapter. Configure
Debian backports and upgrade the kernel and install the needed drivers.

2. Install Debian Testing (Trixie). Trixie has a much newer kernel and the
latest drivers. It also contains newer versions of the other software as
well. I ran Debian testing for Debian 12 for a little over a year until
Bullseye was released!




>
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Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-02 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 7:17 PM Schwibinger Michael  wrote:

> Good afternoon
>
> Before there was panic
>
> su
> su -
> sudo
> did work.
>
> Somebody does have experience with
> rescue mode?
>

If you are in Single User Mode you are already root and do not need: su or
sudo.



> Regards
> Sophie
>
>
> --
> *Von:* Greg Wooledge 
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 26. Januar 2024 17:45
> *An:* debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> *Betreff:* Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 04:23:07PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > su -
> > su
> > or sudo.
> >
> > Is su -
> > the best for install?
>
> Whatever works best for *you* is best.  "su -" is quite popular.
> If it does what you need, and is convenient for you, then there's
> your answer.
>
>

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Re: Wine in bullseye, which way to go?

2024-02-02 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 2:59 PM Marco Moock  wrote:

> Am 01.02.2024 um 18:03:47 Uhr schrieb sko...@uns.ac.rs:
>
> > I am not sure what do you mean by "install that architecture". I have
> > been using i386 versions of Debian, and I do not plan to reinstall it
> > now just because the CPU may allow that. So instead, I ask whether it
> > was expected and properly when Synaptic installed lots of 64-bit
> > stuff during Wine installation from repo. Was it ok or not? Or shall
> > I remove it and follow instructions from WineHQ website?
>
> According to documentation I found in the internet, it is possible to
> upgrade a Debian system to the amd64 architecture.
> Maybe do that, but do a full backup before.
>
> i386 is dead for Debian, the next release won't be available for i386.
>

It is about time i386 is killed off. 64bit processors have been in
production for over 20 years now. I am all for getting the most out of
hardware but considering you can get a Intel Core2 Laptop with 4GB of RAM
for less that $100 refurbished there is no real reason to keep i386 around.


As long as you have a i386 kernel, you can't use amd64 software on it.
>
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>
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Re: what keyboard do you use?

2024-02-02 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 8:42 PM Gremlin 
wrote:

> On 2/2/24 20:25, Lee wrote:
> > I bought a Dell desktop in 2019 and the keyboard just died :(
> >
> > ssh in from another machine & do a 'sudo reboot now' and get an alert
> > about 'Keyboard not found.'  on power up.  The keyboard also doesn't
> > work in another machine so it's really & truly dead.
> >
> > I figure there's a high percentage of keyboard jockeys here so ..
> > which keyboard do you like and why?
>

I have a Nulea RT02 Ergonomic Keyboard. You can get one at Amazon for $45.
I like it alot! The two USB ports on the keyboard are handy.
.


> > I have a Logitech k740 attached to my Windows machine which is ok.
> > Not great but OK.
> > I found a spare Logitech k120 keyboard in the closet; its better than
> > nothing but too thick for regular use.
> > And the old Dell keyboard from the Windows machine - also too thick,
> > the keys are too cramped and lettering has worn off on about 1/4 of
> > the keys (which is why I got the Logitech 740)
> >
> > Thanks
> > Lee
> >
> >
>
> The one I like to use
>
>
>

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Re: Can't list root directory

2024-01-31 Thread Loren M. Lang



On January 31, 2024 1:28:37 PM PST, hw  wrote:
>On Wed, 2024-01-31 at 09:27 -0500, Gary Dale wrote:
>> On 2024-01-30 15:54, hw wrote:
>> > On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 11:42 -0500, Gary Dale wrote:
>> > > I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 workstation. I've lost the ability
>> > > to see the root directory even when I am logged in as root (su -).
>> > > 
>> > > This has been happening intermittently for several months. I initially
>> > > thought it might be related to failing NVME drive that was part of a
>> > > RAID1 array that is mounted as "/" but I replaced the device and the
>> > > problem is still happening.
>> > > [...]
>> > What happens when you put the device you replaced back?
>> > 
>> How could putting a known-failing device back in help? The problem 
>> existed before I replaced it and continues to exist after the replacement.
>
>It sounded like you were able to list the root directory (at least
>sometimes) before you did the replacement.  Manually failing the
>device (perhaps after adding it back first) could make a difference.
>
>I've seen such indefinite hangs only when an NFS share has become
>unreachable after it had been mounted.  You could use clonezilla to
>make a copy and then perhaps convert the file system to btrfs.
>
>Do you still have the problem when you remove one of the NVME storage
>things?  Perhaps you have the equivivalent of a bad SATA cable or the
>mainboard doesn't like it when you access two of those at the same
>time, or something like that.  Even simple network cables can behave
>very strangely, and NVME may be a bit more complicated than that.
>
>Running fsck on every boot to work around an issue like this is
>certainly a bad idea.  Doesn't fsck report anything?  If it really
>makes a difference in itself rather than creating some side effect
>that leads to the root directory being readable, it should report
>something.  Perhaps you need to increase its verbosity.
>
>If there's no report then it would look like a side effect and raise
>the question what side effect it might be.  Does fsck run before the
>RAID has been brought up or after?  Is the RAID up when booting is
>completed?  What does mdadm say about the device(s)?  Can you still
>list the root directory when you manually fail either drive?  What
>exactly are the circumstances under which you can and not list the
>root directory?
>
>You need to do some investigating and ask questions like those ...
>

Also, instead of doing "ls -l /" which will stat() every child folder under 
root, try "/bin/ls -f /" and see if that is successful. That will only do a 
readdir() on root itself. Also, it might be interesting to get a log of "strace 
ls -l /" to confirm exactly where the hang happens.

-Loren 

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Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing

2024-01-22 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On 22/01/2024 10:57, Stefan Monnier wrote:

So: have you considering replacing the whole system?


You mean, fix this one well-understood problem, and replace it with an
unknown number of unknown problems?
Sounds great!


How about "Replace a locked-in solution with an fully open source 
[hopefully] solution"?


It definitely looks like there is no ready open source solution to the 
component the OP wants to replace. It might be possible to adapt an 
existing terminal emulator to include the necessary functionality, 
solving the immediate problem, but the next part that they want to 
replace might end up with the same problem.



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Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing

2024-01-22 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On 11/01/2024 21:27, phoebus phoebus wrote:

[snip description of problem]


I'm on the category of people that haven't fully understood the 
requirements. Maybe because I do not have experience in this specific 
area, and also probably because I haven't read each email carefully.


But that's ok, because I want to talk in more general terms. You 
probably won't like the suggestion, though.


It seems that the system you have has become quite complex and its many 
components depend on each other in very specific ways. It has become 
something rather peculiar. Maybe it's not unique, maybe many retailers 
have similar systems, but they all depend on the same vendor or couple 
of vendors.


You now want to replace of the components, but since it's very dependent 
on the rest of the system, you are having a hard time finding a 
replacement. It's even difficult to describe the requirements, because 
it's something really unusual.


So: have you considering replacing the whole system?

Sure, in the short term it will be costly.

It'll be difficult, and cause disruptions. The users will have to be 
trained in the new system, productivity will decrease a little until 
they get proficient in it, there might be the need for some downtime, etc.


So I totally understand that what I'm proposing is not something easy to 
ask. But given that the difficulty you are having in replacing this one 
component will likely be repeated when some other part needs to be 
changed, I do not think it's entirely unreasonable that this option is 
studied.


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Re: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-21 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 4:07 PM Schwibinger Michael 
wrote:

> Thank You
> Example
> I say
>
> sudo apt-get install firefox
> Reaction LINUX
> This is not allowed we send a message to the admin.
>

This error message means that your account is not in the sudo group.

Run the command "groups" and look for the group sudo.
groups

Here is the command to add a user account to the sudo group. You will need
to run it as root.
usermod -a -G sudo 


> I do open root terminal
> there its working.
> Regards
> Sophie
>
> --
> *Von:* Greg Wooledge 
> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 20. Januar 2024 14:14
> *An:* debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> *Betreff:* Re: su su- sudo dont work
>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 01:26:06PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > Good afternoon.
> > Root terminal is fine.
> > What do I do wrong?
> > What did I destroy?
> >
> > PC does have only one user=admin.
> >
> > Regards Sophie
> > Is it the rescue mode?
>
> Explain, please.
>
> Your Subject: header says "su su- sudo dont work".  What does this MEAN?
>
> Please show us your attempts to USE each of these commands, and the
> results that you got.  This means, run the commands in a terminal
> window, and then PASTE the contents of that terminal window into the
> body of your next email.  Show us the shell prompt, the command as you
> typed it, and the full output.
>
> In other words, show us WHAT IS WRONG, or at least what appears wrong.
>
> In addition, please give basic background information -- what version
> of Debian you are running, what desktop environment if any, how you
> logged in (*especially* if it isn't just a "standard graphical login
> for your desktop environment"), and anything else you can think of
> that might be relevant.
>
> How does "rescue mode" factor into the problem?
>
> When you installed Debian, did you give a root password, or did you
> leave it blank?
>
> Finally, it would be helpful for you to run the "id" command (with no
> arguments), in the same terminal session as your failed su or sudo
> command(s), and include that command and its output in your paste.
>
>

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Re: Thunderbird filters

2024-01-15 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On 14/01/2024 20:10, Felix Miata wrote:

Most likely the location is the same as in SeaMonkey, where there is one filter
file per account, which is by default, thus:

/home/username/.mozilla/profilename/Mail/smtp-name/msgFilterRules.dat

I believe in TB the default may be:

/home/username/.thunderbird/profilename/Mail/smtp-name/msgFilterRules.dat

Mozilla profiles located in other locations are supported. They need not be
anywhere in /home/ if properly configured and permissioned.


I generally stay away from Gene threads, because they lead to nowhere, 
but I found out that in the same directory that msgFilterRules.dat 
resides there's a filterlog.html file that might contain information 
about run filters. (I can't say for sure because I don't use Thunderbird 
filters.)


Unfortunately, Gene may have already deleted his whole home directory, 
including ~/.thunderbird (or not - who knows), so the log is gone.


In my system the directory is actually

~/.thunderbird//ImapMail//msgFilterRules.dat

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Re: 512e vs 4K sector confusion

2024-01-14 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 9:37 AM Andy Smith  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've got a disk image that sits on top of an LVM logical volume
> that is on top of an mdadm RAID-1 that is on top of a pair of:
>
> Device Model: Samsung SSD 870 EVO 4TB
> Sector Size:  512 bytes logical/physical
>
> so let';s say that is at /dev/foo/disk_image (where /dev/foo is the
> name of the LVM VG and disk_image is the LV)
>
> So,
>
> # fdisk -ul /dev/foo/disk_image
> Disk /dev/foo/disk_image: 400 GiB, 429496729600 bytes, 838860800 sectors
> Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> Disklabel type: dos
> Disk identifier: 0x14409245
>
> DeviceBoot Start   End   Sectors  Size Id
> Type
> /dev/foo_disk_image2048 838858751 838856704  400G 83
> Linux
>
> So it's a 400G disk image with an MBR and a single partition, right?
>
> Now, I dd that disk image across the network to another machine
> which has a similar setup, except here the "foo" volume group is on
> a pair of
>
> Device Model: HGST HUS726T6TALN6L4
> Sector Size:  4096 bytes logical/physical
>

4096 Bytes is 4K sector size.


Now, after the disk_image has arrived, it looks very odd. fdisk
> thinks it is 8 times bigger than it really is, and thinks it has 4K
> sectors. I can't use "kpartx" to get at the partition inside it, and
> fsck.ext4 doesn't like its first partition at all.
>
> Is there any way to make this work?
>
> If necessary and if there is a way, I *can* nuke off the target
> machine's "foo" volume group and recreate the RAID array if I have
> to make it 512e format. But obviously I'd like some way to move this
> disk image and have it still work without having to meddle inside it
> much — it is a VM disk.
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
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Re: Virtualization

2024-01-13 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 7:42 PM Chip Snuth  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm currently using RHEL however, I am still virtualization to play with
> Debian instead of houseing my RHEL installation . Would the Debian
> community view me as a trator ofr chill for closed source and proprietary
> software?
>

Red Hat is Free Open Source Software. It almost seems like a new Red Hat
Clone comes out every 3 - 6 months: Oracle, CentOS, Rocky, Alma, Amazon to
name a few.



> personally prefer the held back  kernel and software in RHEL provides for
> instance  the kernel is listed below.
>
>
>   4.18.0-513.11.1.el8_9.x86_64 #1 SMP
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chip
>


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Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing

2024-01-13 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On 13/01/2024 11:00, phoebus phoebus wrote:

I will now discuss this information with our project team to determine the best 
way to incorporate it. This includes considering presenting the idea to our 
management and potentially engaging a qualified third party to design a 
prototype. The goal would be to further develop these features beyond the 
initial stage, so that the PuTTY project team can seamlessly integrate them 
(ideally in the form of a ready-to-use patch).


I'd just suggest checking with the PuTTY team before hand if they'd be 
interested in adding the functionality. Sure, a ready-to-apply patch 
increases the chances, but this seems like a very specific feature that 
very few people seem to need, so they might not want to add extra 
complexity to the software.


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Trouble with OpenSMTPD

2024-01-07 Thread Paul M Foster
Folks:

I'm running Debian Bookworm, and looking to switch from Exim4 to OpenSMTPd.
Here is my smtpd.conf file:

---

table aliases file:/etc/aliases
table secrets file:/etc/secrets

listen on lo
listen on eno1

# action name method options
action "local" mda maildrop virtual 
action "relay" relay host smtp+tls://pa...@smtp.dreamhost.com auth 

match from any for domain "yosemite.mars.lan" action "local"
match for local action "local"
match for any action "relay"

---

For reason(s) I don't understand, opensmtpd will not start via "systemctl
start opensmtpd". According to "sudo smtpd -n", the configuration file
passes, but it just won't start.

(For what it's worth, I've used this config back in 2021 running Debian and
it worked.)

I'm happy to supply whatever data needed in helping to resolve this.

Paul

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Re: Edit NIC Address

2024-01-05 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 12:18 PM David  wrote:

> On Fri, 2024-01-05 at 00:43 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> > David composed on 2024-01-04 04:30 (UTC):
> >
> > > With the latest Debian I'm trying to find the file to edit to
> > > change
> > > the IP address of a remote box, can anybody point me in the correct
> > > direction please?
> >
> > > I can SSH into this box, but cannot find the file to edit.
> >
> > Traditionally it would be in /etc/network/interfaces used by
> > ifupdown. Mine is in
> > /etc/systemd/network/eth0.network because I'm using systemd-networkd.
> > Where
> > NetworkMangler users keep theirs I have no information. If you can
> > search files in
> > the /etc/ tree for string 192.168. or 10.0. or 172.16. likely you'll
> > find it.
> Thank you for the replies.
>
> After doing a grep search for 192.168.205 I was given the
> directory /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Wired connection
> 1.nmconnection::address1-192.168.205.42/24
>

Try this: ls "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Wired connection
1.nmconnection"

Or this: ls /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Wired\ connection\
1.nmconnection

The spaces in the name create an annoyance.

I can go to the directory /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
>
> But I cannot find the file to edit.
>
> Can anybody help me please?
>
> David.
>
>

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Re: Replace Grub with rEFInd [WAS Possibly broken Grub or initrd after updates on Testing]

2024-01-03 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 2:24 PM Richard Rosner 
wrote:

> So, since for whatever reason Grub seems to be broken beyond repair,
>

I am not sure what you mean by "broken beyond repair." I have no issues
with Grub on Debian 12 on AMD64. I had no issues with Grub on Debian 11 or
Debian 10 on AMD64 either. I also had no issues upgrading from Debian 11 to
Debian 12. Is it possible that you simply have a corrupted hard drive and
simply need to reinstall from scratch?

You can download a Debian LiveCD for AMD64 from here:
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/ you can
then boot with it and mount your drive and copy your home directory to a
USB portable drive. When you reinstall I would create a separate partition
for /home. That way in the future you can always reinstall and just tell
the system to mount the existing /home partition.


> I today tried to just replace it with rEFInd. Installation succeeded
> without any trouble. But when I start my system, rEFInd just asks me if I
> want to boot with fwupd or with the still very broken Grub. Am I missing
> something? Is rEFInd really just something to select between different OSs
> (and not just different distributions like Grub can very well do) and then
> gives the rest over to their bootloaders or am I missing something so
> rEFInd will take over all of Grubs jobs?
> On 01.01.24 21:45, Richard Rosner wrote:
>
>
> On 01.01.24 21:20, Richard Rosner wrote:
>
>
> On 01.01.24 20:30, David Wright wrote:
>
> On Mon 01 Jan 2024 at 19:04:20 (+0100), Richard Rosner wrote:
>
> On 01.01.24 18:13, David Wright wrote:
> I can boot by hand, but since this is all archived anyways and it's
> uneccessarily difficult to find some sort of guide how to even do
> this, it might as well be a documentation for users having such
> troubles in the future.
>
> Also, besides the way that I have no clue how it would have to look
> like to set up a paragraph in the grub.cfg, I simply don't see
> anything wrong with it anyways. So I can't even look at the grub
> settings files grub.cfg is being generated from to check where the
> error lies.
>
> You append the commands that you used to boot manually with into
> /etc/grub.d/40_custom, observing the comments there, and also into
> grub.cfg itself at the appropriate place (near the bottom). The
> former is so that Grub includes it in any new grub.cfg that you
> create.
>
> Good to know.
>
> Edit:, never mind. Tried that, it still booted straight to the UEFI BIOS
> menu after entering my password. At this point, I'm seriously considering
> slapping rEFInd on it and pray that it picks up on everything automatically
> and fix the situation. But so should Grub have, besides the fact that I
> can't even be entirely sure Grub is to blame and not something else.
>
>

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Re: URLs in Mutt

2024-01-01 Thread Paul M Foster
On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 11:12:12PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 10:51:25PM -0500, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > Apparently, something was wrapping lines to
> > about 75 characters, and putting an equals sign at the end of every line
> > which had been wrapped.
> 
> This is "quoted-printable" encoding.  You need to use a properly decoded
> version of the file, rather than the raw text.[1]
> 
> > As a solution, I took that email from my mutt mail file and stripped out
> > all the headers and non-HTML content. Then I fed that to my browser.
> 
> If you received a correctly formatted email, it should contain one or more
> parts, each of which is identified by a MIME Content-Type.  Pressing 'v'
> while reading the message takes you to a page which shows you the parts
> in a tree form.
> 
> Use the arrow keys to select the part you want to save (in this case, the
> text/html one), and then save it to a file.  I use "foo.html" usually,
> and just overwrite foo.html every time.
> 
> Have your browser load THAT file.
> 
> [1] The SMTP standard requires all transmitted lines to be 1000 characters
> or less, and to contain only 7-bit ASCII characters.  Therefore, any
> content which doesn't conform to these restrictions has to be encoded.
> The two choices for encoding are quoted-printable, and base64.
> Quoted-printable is nearly human-readable, and is more efficient if
> there are relatively few 8-bit characters or long lines, so it's
> a common choice.  Some MUAs will use q-p even on files that don't
> *strictly* need it, just in case.
> 

This is an excellent reply, and explains the situation entirely. I tried
your method, and it worked. Thanks.

Of course, it doesn't fix the retarded way Mutt handles links. For those
familiar with Mutt, it allows you to view the file with numbers referring
to each link. Then you get a screen with just the numbered links. Here's
the fun part: if the link you want is, say, number 4, when you get to the
screen with only numbered links, the number 4 link is often some other
link. You have to push each link around the one you want to the browser
until you find the one you want. It's a pain.

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URLs in Mutt

2023-12-31 Thread Paul M Foster
Folks:

Like everyone else, I get emails with links in them which need to be
clicked to change passwords, verify identity and such. I was a loyal mutt
user for years, but problems with URLs caused me to eventually change to
claws-mail. Recently, I tweaked my mutt config, and URLs seemed to work
better. So I switched back to mutt. All was fine until now. I got a
critical email with links in it, and it wouldn't work. (I know, that's not
a great description.)

As a solution, I took that email from my mutt mail file and stripped out
all the headers and non-HTML content. Then I fed that to my browser. Sorta
worked. However, the button I was supposed to click didn't work properly.
It attempted to retrieve a page it couldn't find. Digging deeper, I looked
into the actual HTML file. Apparently, something was wrapping lines to
about 75 characters, and putting an equals sign at the end of every line
which had been wrapped. This apparently interfered with the browser
correctly interpreting the HTML.

One wrinkle here is that mail is fed to maildrop. In my config file for
this, there is only one line which messes with incoming mail:

xfilter "reformail -f1"

All this does is add a From if an email isn't properly formatted.

So my first question is, what is wrapping the lines on my incoming emails,
and how do I fix it?

Paul

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Re: llenguatge de l'IU del Firefox

2023-12-25 Thread Josep M. Ferrer

El 25/12/23 a les 10:34, Ernest Adrogué ha escrit:

Hola,

Acabo d'instal·lar el paquet firefox-esr-l10n-ca, però la interfície
d'usuari em segueix apareixent en anglès.  A les preferències no surt
l'opció català.

El local del meu usuari és el ca_ES.

Alguna suggerència?

Salutacions


Jo tinc els meus "locale" aíxi, i la IU del Firefox em surt en català:

$ locale
LANG=ca_ES.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=ca:en_US
LC_CTYPE="ca_ES.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="ca_ES.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="ca_ES.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="ca_ES.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="ca_ES.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="ca_ES.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="ca_ES.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="ca_ES.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="ca_ES.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="ca_ES.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="ca_ES.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="ca_ES.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=

espero que t'ajudi.

Salut!

Josep M. Ferrer



Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-23 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 8:58 PM David Christensen 
wrote:

> On 12/23/23 01:29, Tim Woodall wrote:
> > The fact that the OP is not sending a SYN+ACK (according to the
> > tcpdumps that I saw) means that this is already blackholed.[2]
> >
> > There are three options at this point:
> > 1. Ignore it - my "EVILSYN[1]" blacklist is right at the top of my
> iptables
> > rules and drops without logging before anything else.
> >
> > 2. Talk to their ISP and get it blocked there - that's the only surefire
> > way to stop it eating their quota if that's the problem.
> >
> > 3. Try and make them give up - that's why I suggested sending a RST.
> >
> >
> > [1] I have a set of rules that blacklist IPs that send too many SYN
> > packets that are not responded to with SYN+ACK.
> >
> > [2] This did look weird. I'm not sure how only some connections get a
> > SYN+ACK back - I wonder if their webserver is rate-limited and these are
> > "genuine" connection attempts that are failing - although the SPT=80
> > DPT=80 looks suspiciously like something crafted to get through naive
> > stateless firewall rules that rely on outgoing (allowed) connections to
> > have DPT=80 to the internet and SPT=80 from the internet.
>
>
> Thank you for your comments and explanations.
>
>
> Your [1] and [2] make me think of fail2ban(1).  Any similarities?
>
>
> STFW I found some informative articles:
>
> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/ip/ip-multicast/14760-4.html
>
> https://heimdalsecurity.com/blog/syn-flood/
>
>
> Sending a RST to a falsified IP address would make the sending host into
> an attacker by proxy.  Why do you suggest it?
>
>
> Does Debian and/or Linux support SYN cookies?
>
>
> I believe Debian includes packages for various intrusion detection
> systems.  Does anyone have any comments or recommendations?
>

Debian has SNORT and Suricata. I use Suricata. It works well and does not
require paying the subscription for the SNORT oink account.

sudo apt install suricata suricata-update

You can configure Suricata via /etc/suricata/suricata.yaml. All that really
needs configured for a basic IDS/IPS is to change the interfaces from Eth0
to the actual interface. After that you can enable and start Suricata via
SystemD.



> Analyzing and correlating iptables and httpd logs should provide a
> better understanding of legitimate traffic versus attacker traffic.  We
> would need matching excerpts from the OP to try it.
>
>
> David
>
>

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Re: differences among amd64 and i386

2023-12-17 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 7:45 PM Tixy  wrote:

> On Thu, 2023-12-14 at 18:19 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge
> >
> > Instruction set x86-64
> > Instructionsx86, x86-64
> >
> > You could run amd64 on this machine.  Right now, you have a choice
> > between the two, but some distributions have already dropped support
> > for i386.  amd64 would be the more future-proof choice.
>
> Just announced today [1] it looks like Debian will drop i386 installs
> for the next release.
>
> [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/12/msg3.html
>
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>
>
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Re: Apt 2 not fully installed or removed.

2023-12-09 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Dec 9, 2023 at 9:07 AM Andy Smith  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On Sat, Dec 09, 2023 at 02:26:41AM -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> > I figured out the problem and apt is working fine now.
>
> It would be nice for you to elaborate, both to satisfy my curiosity
>  and to provide a search engine hit for anyone encountering this
> in future.
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
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>
> Andy,

I deleted the files /var/lib/dpkg/info/php-horde.postrm and
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache2-mod-fcgid.postinst. Then I did a sudo apt
remove php-horde and sudo apt install libapache2-mod-fcgid.

I modified /etc/apache2/envvars setting /etc/default/locale and commented
out export LANG=C. This was to make NextCloud work, with the required
en_us-UTF8 character set. I am not sure why php-horde was getting stuck on
it.

Tim



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Re: Apt 2 not fully installed or removed.

2023-12-08 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Dec 9, 2023 at 2:11 AM Timothy M Butterworth <
timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> All,
>
> I am having a problem with apt. I tried to remove php-horde and it failed
> to fully remove. Now it generates an error message. Any suggestions?
>
> sudo apt remove php-horde
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> Reading state information... Done
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>  php-horde
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> 2 not fully installed or removed.
> After this operation, 11.3 MB disk space will be freed.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
> (Reading database ... 393448 files and directories currently installed.)
> Removing php-horde (5.2.23+debian0-6) ...
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/php-horde.postrm: 28: /etc/apache2/envvars:
> /etc/default/locale: Permission denied
> dpkg: error processing package php-horde (--remove):
> installed php-horde package post-removal script subprocess returned error
> exit status 126
> dpkg: too many errors, stopping
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> php-horde
> Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
> needrestart is being skipped since dpkg has failed
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>
> sudo apt install libapache2-mod-fcgid
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> Reading state information... Done
> libapache2-mod-fcgid is already the newest version (1:2.3.9-4).
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> 2 not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 0 B/1,855 kB of archives.
> After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
> Setting up libapache2-mod-fcgid (1:2.3.9-4) ...
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache2-mod-fcgid.postinst: 28:
> /etc/apache2/envvars: /etc/default/locale: Permission denied
> dpkg: error processing package libapache2-mod-fcgid (--configure):
> installed libapache2-mod-fcgid package post-installation script subprocess
> returned error exit status 126
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> libapache2-mod-fcgid
> needrestart is being skipped since dpkg has failed
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
>

All,

I figured out the problem and apt is working fine now.

Tim


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Apt 2 not fully installed or removed.

2023-12-08 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
All,

I am having a problem with apt. I tried to remove php-horde and it failed
to fully remove. Now it generates an error message. Any suggestions?

sudo apt remove php-horde
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
 php-horde
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 11.3 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
(Reading database ... 393448 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing php-horde (5.2.23+debian0-6) ...
/var/lib/dpkg/info/php-horde.postrm: 28: /etc/apache2/envvars:
/etc/default/locale: Permission denied
dpkg: error processing package php-horde (--remove):
installed php-horde package post-removal script subprocess returned error
exit status 126
dpkg: too many errors, stopping
Errors were encountered while processing:
php-horde
Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
needrestart is being skipped since dpkg has failed
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

sudo apt install libapache2-mod-fcgid
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
libapache2-mod-fcgid is already the newest version (1:2.3.9-4).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0 B/1,855 kB of archives.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
Setting up libapache2-mod-fcgid (1:2.3.9-4) ...
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache2-mod-fcgid.postinst: 28: /etc/apache2/envvars:
/etc/default/locale: Permission denied
dpkg: error processing package libapache2-mod-fcgid (--configure):
installed libapache2-mod-fcgid package post-installation script subprocess
returned error exit status 126
Errors were encountered while processing:
libapache2-mod-fcgid
needrestart is being skipped since dpkg has failed
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Thanks

Tim

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Re: debian forgot usr pw

2023-12-08 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 7:56 AM Pocket  wrote:

>
> On 12/8/23 00:05, John Hasler wrote:
> > Gene writes:
> >> AND (horrors) have written it down.
> > That's the right thing to do.
>
> Well you could always use the universal password of password
>
> I use for example i use the following
>
> for the root account the password is root
>
> for my user account of pocket the password is pocket
>
> No one will every guess those password so I am completely protected
>

Thanks now I have your passwords and your IP address from the SMTP
header. 2001:41b8:202:deb:216:36ff:fe40:4002
Darn SSH is configured to use certificates. Your security is stronger than
you let on.

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Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Paul M Foster
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 11:04:54AM -0600, David Wright wrote:

> On Fri 08 Dec 2023 at 11:56:12 (-0500), Paul M Foster wrote:
> > 
> > I'm on Debian bookworm, using neomutt for email. Where there is an image to
> > view, viewing it in neomutt calls up one of the ImageMagick programs. I've 
> > set
> > the mailcap_path variable in my neomutt config to point to ~/.mailcap, and
> > set an entry in there for image/jpg to point to /usr/bin/feh. I've even set
>   ↑↑↑ try jpeg
> 
> > the "display" alternative to feh with update-alternatives. Still, mutt is
> > calling an imagemagick program to display jpgs.
> > 
> > First, if alternatives doesn't point to the imagemagick program, and the
> > mailcap file doesn't point to it, and there's nothing in the neomutt config
> > pointing to the imagemagick program, then where the heck is it getting that
> > as the program to use to display images?
> > 
> > Second, how do I fix this so that mutt uses feh to display images?

I can't believe that worked. The /etc/mailcap has both (jpg and jpeg), and
the files I was looking at had a "jpg" extension.

But thanks for the tip.

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Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Paul M Foster
Folks:

I'm on Debian bookworm, using neomutt for email. Where there is an image to
view, viewing it in neomutt calls up one of the ImageMagick programs. I've set
the mailcap_path variable in my neomutt config to point to ~/.mailcap, and
set an entry in there for image/jpg to point to /usr/bin/feh. I've even set
the "display" alternative to feh with update-alternatives. Still, mutt is
calling an imagemagick program to display jpgs.

First, if alternatives doesn't point to the imagemagick program, and the
mailcap file doesn't point to it, and there's nothing in the neomutt config
pointing to the imagemagick program, then where the heck is it getting that
as the program to use to display images?

Second, how do I fix this so that mutt uses feh to display images?

Paul

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Re: Recommended simple PDF viewer to replace Evince

2023-12-05 Thread Paul M Foster
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 12:09:09AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:

> On 05/12/2023 18:30, Tom Browder wrote:
> > When I manually print via Evince It seems to sometimes change important
> > settings like page scaling and orientation.
> 
> I had an impression that GUI print dialog may remember some settings from
> its previous invocation. Unsure if it is relevant to evince.
> 
> I believed that CUPS stack is based on PDF while earlier PostScript was
> used. Filters used to get output specific to particular printers use poppler
> library. (I do not see direct dependency on poppler in evince despite I
> expected it). Poppler was forked from xpdf. Current upstream xpdf-4 version
> is a qt application while v3 in Debian has Xt GUI and some issues with
> non-latin scripts. Xpdf-3 is fast for text documents, but may be slow in the
> case of large JPEG images.

I've used Xpdf from Arch, and it's an entirely different program. My
understanding was that the Arch version depended on poppler. I can only
imagine that the version in Debian is different because there is a
licensing issue with the poppler code. Just a guess.

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Re: Recommended simple PDF viewer to replace Evince

2023-12-04 Thread Paul M Foster
On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 05:12:28PM -0600, Tom Browder wrote:

> I have used Evince as my PDF viewer and printer program for many
> years. It still works, but it has been spitting out error messages for
> a very long time. to wit:
> 
> (evince:81435): EvinceView-CRITICAL **: 16:44:57.520: \
> ev_pixbuf_cache_set_selection_list: \
> assertion 'EV_IS_PIXBUF_CACHE (pixbuf_cache)' failed
> 
> The help option doesn't shed any light to me, but it does reference
> the website. However, every time I've tried the site throws an error.
> That also has been happening for a LONG time.
> 
> I would like to use another program which is similar but has good
> documentation. I don't need a heavy duty program like LibreOffice,
> Just something for viewing and printing.
> 
> A bonus would be one with documented CLI use with CUPS printers.
> 
> Thanks for any recommendations.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> -Tom
> 

I use xpdf, which is extremely simple and will allow printing. Don't think
it has a CLI interface. However, I would imagine that simply feeding a PDF
to the printer should work for printing. I could be wrong, though.

Paul

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Re: Re: RTL8852 driver for Debian 11

2023-11-25 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 2:11 AM Andy Smith  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Again ignoring your more non-constructive complaints…
>
> TL;DR: Try USB networking like by plugging in your phone or a USB
> ethernet/wifi dongle.
>
> On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 07:39:20PM +, Richard Smith wrote:
> > The only place I found that had the driver required me to install
> > more content from online (which I can't access, due to the laptop
> > not having an Ethernet port, as well as no wireless).
>
> It is not unusual for computers (especially laptops) with newer
> hardware to not have needed drivers contained in the distro kernel.
> It's worth thinking about how you will handle that before you buy
> it.
>
> One valid strategy for handling that is, "I will consider just using
> Ubuntu, or Fedora, or whatever, and only buy hardware that works in
> those distributions."
>
> Assuming you want to continue with a distribution that doesn't
> ship a kernel that supports your wifi, and you need to get files
> onto the computer, you will have to get a bit more creative.
>
> As mentioned in the other thread, I have a laptop that has such a
> wifi card. I solved the problem of no initial networking by plugging
> a USB cable from my phone to the laptop. NetworkManager then offered
> to use it as a USB network connection without me having to configure
> anything at all. It was a one click temporary solution to getting
> the wifi driver DKMS and everything needed to compile it.
>
> Other possibilities off the top of my head:
>
> - USB ethernet dongle
>
> - USB wifi dongle with a supported chipset
>

I got burned on my last Laptop Upgrade. No WiFi, basic GPU etc. I upgraded
to Debian testing to get the latest drivers and all was good. I upgraded
straight through testing to Bookworm stable-new. It sounds like you may
want to do the same thing with Trixie. I bought one of these, a little
pricey but having it on hand to get my system up and running was worth
every penny. It is not the latest and greatest but it runs on all free
firmware!

https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb




> - File transfer by USB
>
> I'm sure you and others can think of more.
>
> > I am spending WAY too much time installing this - with very little
> > to show for it!
>
> Don't use it then. Non-actionable complaints are difficult to
> address in a volunteer project and it's totally fine for you to use
> something else. There are certainly things I do not use Debian (or
> Linux in general) for that while they would be technically possible,
> are just "way too much time" for me to consider worth it. The answer
> isn't for me to drop my complaints at Linux's door.
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
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Re: Part II dd copy destroyed DVD

2023-11-18 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 10:17 PM Max Nikulin  wrote:

> On 18/11/2023 23:35, Marco Moock wrote:
> > it maybe a stupid DRM?
>
> ... or a blank disk because nothing has been written there.
>
> AW: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)? Sat, 4 Nov 2023 13:28:16 +
>
> https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/as8pr10mb742781d572af09e5dc874f1dc5...@as8pr10mb7427.eurprd10.prod.outlook.com
> >  I did burn a DVD.
> > Burning did make a bug.
>

How big is the iso file? If it is larger than 4.7GB then it will be too
large to write to disk.

Have you tried K3B? K3B can make iso images and burn iso images to disk. It
can also rip dvd's.



> My reading: attempt to write some data resulted in some error message.
>
> A bit more details:
>
> AW: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)? Sun, 5 Nov 2023 11:19:48 +
>
> https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/as8pr10mb7427e6d31a2a27688b0554e6c5...@as8pr10mb7427.eurprd10.prod.outlook.com
> >  I put in a DVD
> > and try to copy the data to HD
> >
> > mc is saying:
> > Cannot copy.
> >
> > Do You want to ignore the DVD?
> >
> > I think there was a bug during burning.
>
>

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Re: Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Paul M Foster
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 09:29:02AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote:

> Paul M Foster wrote: 
> > After using claws-mail for a number of years, I'm testing the idea of going
> > back to mutt and fetchmail. One problem I've encountered is how to get
> > local mail in /var/mail/paulf into mutt's inbox at /home/paulf/Mail/in.
> > 
> > I could run a POP server, and have fetchmail query it like any other
> > smarthost, but I'd rather not add another daemon. Does anyone know a way to
> > have mutt and/or fetchmail grab mail from /var/mail/paulf to
> > /home/paulf/Mail/in?
> 
> Options:
> 
> 1. tell mutt your spool is /var/mail/paulf:
> 
> set spoolfile="/var/mail/paulf"

This would be okay if all my mail was delivered to that spool file, but it
isn't. Fetchmail hands off (internet) mail to maildrop, which puts in my
spool file at /home/paulf/Mail/in. That's where mutt thinks my spool file
is. Only mail generated by the system or cron jobs is delivered to
/var/mail/paulf. And I'd like that mail to end up instead in
/home/paulf/Mail/in.

Also worth noting that I have exim installed, which handles the cron job
emails, and puts them, by default into the standard location,
/var/mail/paulf.

> 
> (if that's a Maildir, end it with a /)
> 
> 2. tell fetchmail to deliver via a local agent that will put
> things where you want them, like procmail or mailfilter or...
> anyway, use the 'mda' config in fetchmail's config file to
> specify that.
> 

Fetchmail already hands off to maildrop, which puts all (internet) mail in
/home/paulf/Mail/in. But it appears that fetchmail only queries servers,
and then passes off the mail to an mda. I can't get it to simply copy mail
(and delete it) from a spool file and deliver it to the mda.

Paul

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Fetching local mail

2023-11-18 Thread Paul M Foster
Folks:

After using claws-mail for a number of years, I'm testing the idea of going
back to mutt and fetchmail. One problem I've encountered is how to get
local mail in /var/mail/paulf into mutt's inbox at /home/paulf/Mail/in.

I could run a POP server, and have fetchmail query it like any other
smarthost, but I'd rather not add another daemon. Does anyone know a way to
have mutt and/or fetchmail grab mail from /var/mail/paulf to
/home/paulf/Mail/in?

Paul


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Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On 13/11/2023 14:50, Anssi Saari wrote:

The Wanderer  writes:


And those are getting rare, I can't find a nice MUA for Android with
proper threading.


If you ever do find one, please let me know. The lack of such a thing is
the primary reason why I don't do E-mail on Android *at all*.


Possibly FairEmail would fit the bill. They advertize "conversation
threading" but I don't really if it's proper or not. The author is
responsive though.


Unfortunately doesn't look like so, this "coversation" threading is what 
gmail does, a linear sequence of messages.


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Re: PATH question

2023-11-13 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 9:29 AM Thomas George 
wrote:

> As root I edited bashrc as found in root's home directory
> On 11/11/23 23:23, Timothy Butterworth wrote:
>
> On November 11, 2023, at 8:51 PM, Thomas George 
>  wrote:
>
> >I downloaded the google-chrome deb file to /opt/
> >used dpkg to install the program.
>
> Use sudo apt install ./filename.deb you may need to run sudo apt update
> first.
>
> >
> >initial attempt failed, two lib files missing.
> >added the sbin entries to path and tried again
> >missing files found on the dvd installation disk and google-chrome
> >successfully installed
> >On 11/11/23 13:22, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 01:03:45PM -0500, Thomas George wrote:
> >>> In a newly installed bookworm I edited PATH to
> >>> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
>
> What account did you add the sbin's too? The Root account should already
> have sbin and it is the only account that should.
>
> If you used su then you need to run either su -l or su -L to switch user
> to root with a login shell. I recommend disabling root login and using
> sudo.
>
> -, -l, --login
  Start the shell as a login shell with an environment similar to a
real login:

  •   clears all the environment variables except TERM and
variables specified by --whitelist-environment

  •   initializes the environment variables HOME, SHELL, USER,
LOGNAME, and PATH

  •   changes to the target user’s home directory

  •   sets argv[0] of the shell to '-' in order to make the shell a
login shell




> >> What, exactly, did you edit?
> >>
> >>> in order to
> >>> install google-chrome.
> >> Now that makes no sense... unless you ran into the buster su issue.
> >>
> >> Please see 
> ;.
> >>
> >>>This worked but the installed PATH had  two other
> >>> entries, something about games?
> >> /usr/local/games and /usr/games
> >>
> >>> I failed to save and did not take note of all the installed PATH
> entries.
> >>>
> >>> I have no sound with bookworm. Could these other entries be the
> problem?
> >> I sincerely doubt it.
> >>
>
>

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Re: PATH question

2023-11-13 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 9:29 AM Thomas George 
wrote:

> As root I edited bashrc as found in root's home directory
> On 11/11/23 23:23, Timothy Butterworth wrote:
>
> On November 11, 2023, at 8:51 PM, Thomas George 
>  wrote:
>
> >I downloaded the google-chrome deb file to /opt/
> >used dpkg to install the program.
>
> Use sudo apt install ./filename.deb you may need to run sudo apt update
> first.
>
> >
> >initial attempt failed, two lib files missing.
> >added the sbin entries to path and tried again
> >missing files found on the dvd installation disk and google-chrome
> >successfully installed
> >On 11/11/23 13:22, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 01:03:45PM -0500, Thomas George wrote:
> >>> In a newly installed bookworm I edited PATH to
> >>> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
>
> User path should be:
/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games

Root path should be:
/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin

> What account did you add the sbin's too? The Root account should already
> have sbin and it is the only account that should.
>
> If you used su then you need to run either su -l or su -L to switch user
> to root with a login shell. I recommend disabling root login and using
> sudo.
>
> >> What, exactly, did you edit?
> >>
> >>> in order to
> >>> install google-chrome.
> >> Now that makes no sense... unless you ran into the buster su issue.
> >>
> >> Please see 
> ;.
> >>
> >>>This worked but the installed PATH had  two other
> >>> entries, something about games?
> >> /usr/local/games and /usr/games
> >>
> >>> I failed to save and did not take note of all the installed PATH
> entries.
> >>>
> >>> I have no sound with bookworm. Could these other entries be the
> problem?
> >> I sincerely doubt it.
> >>
>
>

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Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On 13/11/2023 11:10, The Wanderer wrote:

On 2023-11-13 at 08:57, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

It's not only google, I'd say it's the norm, except for "advanced"
users that use good MUA.

And those are getting rare, I can't find a nice MUA for Android with
proper threading.


If you ever do find one, please let me know. The lack of such a thing is
the primary reason why I don't do E-mail on Android *at all*.


There's ProfiMail Go 
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lonelycatgames.PM). 
Seems to be still installable, but it's old and not really maintained 
anymore. Occasionally I stumble on some minor bug, but it's usable.


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Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On 13/11/2023 09:31, Brad Rogers wrote:

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 12:04:47 +
Andy Smith  wrote:

Hello Andy,

{gmail web interface}

that people put up with that.


If they've always used google (and let's face it, there are plenty of
people that fall in to that category), then they have no experience
of anything else and quite possibly know no better.


It's not only google, I'd say it's the norm, except for "advanced" users 
that use good MUA.


And those are getting rare, I can't find a nice MUA for Android with 
proper threading.


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Re: Part III BIN=? AW: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)?

2023-11-12 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 12:16 PM Schwibinger Michael 
wrote:

> Good morning
>
> I did try it
> with a good DVD
>
> dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.bin bs=1M
>
> And this did work.
>
> I tried with the bad DVD
>
> Bug.
> Message Cannot read file  Read write problem.
>
> What do I do wrong.
>
> And how to mount a bin file?
>

You can mount iso disk images. Try making the file with a .iso extension.

mkdir ~/CDROM

mount <./file.iso> ~/CDROM

umount ~/CDROM



> Sorry
>
> Regards Sophie
>
>
> --
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> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 11. November 2023 19:35
> *Bis:* Schwibinger Michael
> *Cc:* debian-user@lists.debian.org
> *Betreff:* Re: Part II BIN=? AW: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)?
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 02:05:19PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.bin bs=1M
> >
> > Good afternoon
> > This did work
> > Thank You.
> >
> > But now the bin.
> >
> > I did
> >
> > chmod +x dvd.bin
> >
> > ./dvd.bin
>
> dvd.bin is a CDROM image. You cannot execute a CDROM image. You can
> possibly mount it.
>
> Your provider, hotmail hates me. Why?
>
> Cheers
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>


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Debian GNU/Linux Books

2023-11-11 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
All,

I have been looking for commercial books written about Debian and there is
very little selection. I am considering writing an updated Debian GNU/Linux
Bible for Bookworm/Trixie. Before I started writing it I was wondering if
anyone would even be interested in buying a copy of it?

Thanks

Tim

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Re: Hardware Misses on MacBook Air M1 2020

2023-11-10 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 9:16 AM Kent West  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 10:39 PM Timothy M Butterworth <
> timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 11:31 PM Kent West  wrote:
>>
>>> I have an M1-chip 2020 MacBook Air on which I have dual-booted with
>>> Debian 12 initially, then "upgraded" to sid (in hopes of getting better
>>> hardware support). It has several hardware ... glitches, and my google-fu
>>> is failing me in finding solutions. I'm hoping someone here can help.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>
>> Have you considered just running Debian in a Virtual Machine until
>> hardware support matures.
>>
>
>
> I started to look at that yesterday, but apparently VirtualBox doesn't
> support the Mac's M1 chip, and QEMU looked a bit daunting on the Mac, so I
> gave up on that pursuit for now. The issues I'm currently having seem less
> painful to me than getting a VM up and running on the M1 Mac.
>

On Mac most people use Parallels for virtual machines.
https://www.parallels.com/


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Re: How could the missing MySQL extension required by WordPress be installed?

2023-11-10 Thread Marco M.
Am 10.11.2023 um 23:48:35 Uhr schrieb Susmita/Rajib:

> But the result remains the same.

Can you use the php info function to get information about the php
stuff that is being loaded?



Re: How could the missing MySQL extension required by WordPress be installed?

2023-11-10 Thread Marco M.
Am 10.11.2023 um 21:51:41 Uhr schrieb Susmita/Rajib:

> I installed them all. Then I tried to follow the instructions:
> # sudo /etc/init.d/mysql status
> sudo: /etc/init.d/mysql: command not found

That is the old Sysvinit method.
Use systemd tools instead

systemctl status mysql



Re: Password managers

2023-11-10 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 5:25 AM Timothy M Butterworth <
timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 3:11 AM John Conover  wrote:
>
>> John Darrah writes:
>> > On Thu, 2023-11-09 at 16:03 -0800, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
>> > > Folks:
>> > >
>> > > Does anyone know of a password manager which will store a variety of
>> > > user-defined information for each login, and not store that
>> > > information
>> > > on the internet (and which is free as in beer)?
>> > >
>> >
>> > Take a look at 'secrets' which is a Gnome native app. It uses a
>> > database and key file compatible with Password Safe.
>>
>
> I have been looking for a password manager that was as simple and easy to
> use as password manager and Secrets is definitely it. Thanks so much for
> pointing out this program.
>

I spoke to soon Password Safe is now available for Linux.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/passwordsafe/files/Linux/1.18.0/ I used to
run Password Safe in Wine. It is so good to see that it has been ported to
linux.


>
>>
>> Pass works well, too. http://www.passwordstore.org/.
>> Uses gpg encryption.
>>
>> John
>>
>> --
>>
>> John Conover, cono...@panix.com, http://www.johncon.com/
>>
>>
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Re: Password managers

2023-11-10 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 3:11 AM John Conover  wrote:

> John Darrah writes:
> > On Thu, 2023-11-09 at 16:03 -0800, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> > > Folks:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of a password manager which will store a variety of
> > > user-defined information for each login, and not store that
> > > information
> > > on the internet (and which is free as in beer)?
> > >
> >
> > Take a look at 'secrets' which is a Gnome native app. It uses a
> > database and key file compatible with Password Safe.
>

I have been looking for a password manager that was as simple and easy to
use as password manager and Secrets is definitely it. Thanks so much for
pointing out this program.



>
> Pass works well, too. http://www.passwordstore.org/.
> Uses gpg encryption.
>
> John
>
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>
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>
>

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Re: Hardware Misses on MacBook Air M1 2020

2023-11-09 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 11:31 PM Kent West  wrote:

> I have an M1-chip 2020 MacBook Air on which I have dual-booted with Debian
> 12 initially, then "upgraded" to sid (in hopes of getting better hardware
> support). It has several hardware ... glitches, and my google-fu is failing
> me in finding solutions. I'm hoping someone here can help.
>
> First, the good news: Basic functionality works fine. Both Gnome and
> Plasma work on both X11 and Wayland; graphics are crisp (albeit tiny, until
> I use the GUI's size-mag feature to bump it to about 175%), and both wired
> and wireless networking work, even with our certificate-based
> authentication wireless network, that I could never get to work with a
> version of Debian around 9 or 10 or so (but the connection is a little
> daunting for the average Joe). I can't really speak for Sleep/Hibernation,
> as I haven't had it running that long (UPDATE: It just announced it was
> automatically suspending as I was typing this; I suspect it'll wake when I
> try it in a few (UPDATE: Yes, it woke up instantly, perhaps too
> instantly?)), but screen time-out/wake-up works fine. Audio via my
> Bluetooth ear buds works great.
>
> Now the bad news:
>
> - keyboard backlight. Ag, how I need this in my usually-dark computing
> environs!
>
> - display brightness. It's either full-on or full-off. This is a much more
> minor concern.
>
> - audio. As mentioned above, audio works fine via Blluetooth (watched an
> interesting Adam Savage video about a $13 USB-c cable vs Apple's $130
> version; I can't believe I'm saying it, but I think the Apple version might
> actually be worth that), but I can't get a peep out of the built-in
> speakers. Everything *seems* to be in order; alsamixer sees both the
> Pipewire device and the native Mac sound device; volume controls move up
> and down (or left/right); there's just never any sound. Not even from
> "speaker-test" after I've killed X/Wayland/gdm3, although "speaker-test"
> (as a non-root user) looks like it's working. It acts like the speakers are
> muted, but I can find no way to unmute them. When I run "speaker-test" as
> root, it complains that the service (server? device?) is not
> running/available? (Sorry; don't recall the exact message at the moment.)
>
> - Though not really a hardware matter, thought I'd mention this for anyone
> who wants to try Debian on their MacBook Air M1; when I updated to Sid,
> apparently the Mac got "confused", and when I tried to boot back into
> macOS, the system insisted on having my decryption password (which I guess
> is normal, now that I think about it, 'cause FileVault 2 does that also,
> just ... differently, so that I didn't recognize it), but then it also
> insisted on a Recovery Key being typed in (like when Bitlocker locks you
> out of Windows when it thinks the hardware has been tampered with).
> Thankfully I had that key available, or it would have been a wipe/reimage
> (or perhaps worse, the way Apple has locked things down of late).
>
> So if anyone has any help for these issues, especially audio and the
> keyboard backlight, I'm all ears.
>

Have you considered just running Debian in a Virtual Machine until hardware
support matures.


> Thanks!
>
> Linux debian kernel 6.1.0-rc8-asahi #1 SMP Tue Dec 6 21:41:25 CET 2022
> aarch64 GNU/Linux
> trixie/sid
>
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Re: balenaEtcher installation problem

2023-11-09 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 11:21 PM Gary L. Roach 
wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 12
> KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.5
> KDE Frameworks Version: 5.103.0
> Qt Version: 5.15.8
> Kernel Version: 6.1.0-13-amd64 (64-bit)
> Graphics Platform: Wayland
> Processors: 4 × AMD FX(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor
> Memory: 31.2 GiB of RAM
> Graphics Processor: AMD CAICOS
> Manufacturer: MSI
> Product Name: MS-7974
> System Version: 1.0
>
> I have been trying to install the balenaEtcher software package 
> *balenaEtcher-1.18.11-x64.AppImage
> *for 2 days without success. I keep getting the following error:
>
>
> *ERROR:ozone_platform_x11.cc(247)] Missing X server or $DISPLAY
> [10145:1109/120137.666202:ERROR:env.cc(226)] The platform failed to
> initialize.  Exiting*
>
>
You currently are running on Wayland. You need to install X11 because the
app can not run on Wayland.

sudo apt install xwayland


> I have been searching the internet for solutions and have found many
> listings but none of them work. My $DISPLAY variable is empty which may be
> the source of the problem but what should it hold? I am using the .deb file
> downloaded from the balena web sight. Sorry if this information is a bit
> sketchy but is the best I can do at this point.
>
> Any help on this problem will be sincerely appreciated. i really need a
> package that can handle burning .iso files to SD cards and this seems to be
> the best out there.
>
> Gary R
>
>
>

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Re: Hardware Misses on MacBook Air M1 2020

2023-11-09 Thread Marco M.
Am 09.11.2023 um 14:44:20 Uhr schrieb Kent West:

> Not even from "speaker-test" after I've killed X/Wayland/gdm3, although
> "speaker-test" (as a non-root user) looks like it's working. It acts
> like the speakers are muted, but I can find no way to unmute them.
> When I run "speaker-test" as root, it complains that the service
> (server? device?) is not running/available? (Sorry; don't recall the
> exact message at the moment.)

Have you checked alsamixer for MM?
Can you check which chip it is with lspci and which kernel module is
loaded?

What does dmesg say?



Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-09 Thread Marco M.
Am 09.11.2023 um 18:17:31 Uhr schrieb hlyg:

> i think they shall be more specific about "large"

The MX MTA of the debian-users mailing list shouldn't accept an email
that is too larger and should reject it with a proper 5xx message, so
you know what happened.



Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-09 Thread Marco M.
Am 09.11.2023 um 02:04:39 Uhr schrieb hlyg:

> list doesn't seem to accept my mail, because of big attachment i
> believe

What is the exact message in the bounce mail you got?



Re: Help to find the Debians repository

2023-11-09 Thread Marco M.
Am 08.11.2023 um 18:34:12 Uhr schrieb ARY SAYD SAULT:

> I am reaching out to you because the team and I need to analyze the
> evolution of Debian software over the years and correlate it with
> Lehman's laws.

The tracker gives you version information: https://tracker.debian.org/

On the archive mirrors you can find older software versions:
That server includes stuff from the late 90s.
http://mirror.mephi.ru/debian-archive/debian/dists/



Re: WiFi b/g/n

2023-11-08 Thread Marco M.
Am 08.11.2023 um 11:04:54 Uhr schrieb William Torrez Corea:

> 06:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless

|A highly integrated, all CMOS combo-chip for 2.4 GHz 802.11n wireless
|local area networks (WLANs) and Bluetooth 4 solution for PC
|applications.

https://www.qualcomm.com/products/internet-of-things/networking/wi-fi-networks/qca9565

You cannot use 5 GHz (nor 60 GHz) because it only support 2.4 GHz.



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