Re: Smail/Sendmail Question
Hi! mfrattola localhost mail deliver locally don't rewrite header mfrattola LAN mail deliver thru eth0 don't rewrite header mfrattola internet mail deliver thru ppp0 rewrite header This is possible by a) defining mailers, and modifying sendmail.cf to add a inexpensive smtp mailer (copy the smtp mailers and call them lsmtp et akk b) look at ruleset 1 and prevent rewrites for the LAN, while allowing rewrites for external addresses I wrote such m4s. I don't think they're perfect, but they work !-) I offer to share em. shall I send em to the list? Well, I think it could be worth for the whole list, but if others object, I'd like to take a look at them (privately :)) -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Smail/Sendmail Question
mfrattola Thank you for your answer. It seems to me (from other mfrattola messages) that smail is easier to manage WRT this problem mfrattola (with routers, directors and the like). Problem is I don't mfrattola like smail (and recent problems with newer smail don't make mfrattola me like it more). What I'd like sendmail to do is: mfrattola localhost mail deliver locally don't rewrite header mfrattola LAN mail deliver thru eth0 don't rewrite header mfrattola internet mail deliver thru ppp0 rewrite header This is possible by a) defining mailers, and modifying sendmail.cf to add a inexpensive smtp mailer (copy the smtp mailers and call them lsmtp et akk b) look at ruleset 1 and prevent rewrites for the LAN, while allowing rewrites for external addresses The ppp vs eth0 should be handled by the networking setup, and should not be a part of the MTA's chores. This is easy if you grok sendmail.cf, like some of us oldtimers. Unfortunately, sendmail.cf mastery is a dying art. Oh, when it is written, it can be encapsulated into a m4 hack, so everyone else can just use that. manoj who still remembers evenings spent crafting version 5 sendmail.cf's with a host of cohorts so the bottom line is: I have to buy the sendmail book :) -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Smail/Sendmail Question
Hi, mfrattola == mfrattola [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mfrattola Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't this rewrite 'From' for every mfrattola message, and not only for those 'going out' of his LAN? mfrattola Also, doesn't confDELIVERY_MODE=queue queue all messages mfrattola and wait for runq to make the delivery? Umm, I think not. let me see. __ From root Sun Mar 8 02:19:33 1998 Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by tiamat.datasync.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) id CAA09080 for root; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:16:07 -0600 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:16:07 -0600 From: root root Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: root Subject: mirror update of Debian X-Filter: mailagent [version 3.0 PL58] for [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ See? No rewrite for local mail. Yes, but as somebody else pointed out, this is for mail bound to localhost. What happens if I'm on a.mynet.org and I write to b.mynet.org? I think sendmail doesn't see this is a local (internal LAN) address and rewrites its header like with any other internet bound message. Or so I think, since my other home machine is down (being used my windows-sister). I think I tried it (in the early days) and found I could not stop rewriting. As to the other question, yes, the confDELIVERY_MODE=queue queues all messages. My bad. The solution is to make all mailers except the local one expensive. Am I right in thinking local is used only for localhost bound mail? Where does all this magic come from? Do I have to hand edit sendmail.conf by hand? (any m4 shortcut?) -- __ egrep ^M /etc/sendmail.cf Mlocal, P=/usr/sbin/sensible-mda, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qh90, S=10/30, R=20/40, Mprog,P=/bin/sh, F=lsDFMoqu9, S=10/30, R=20/40, D=$z:/, Msmtp,P=[IPC], F=emDFMuX, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, Mesmtp, P=[IPC], F=emDFMuXa, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, Msmtp8, P=[IPC], F=emDFMuX8, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, Mrelay, P=[IPC], F=emDFMuXa8, S=11/31, R=61, E=\r\n, L=2040, -- Notice the flag (F) e? it is not there for local or prog mailers, but is there for all smtp or esmtp mailers, and hence the non-local mail should wait for the queue run, but the local mail is delivered immediately. This is untried; but it should work. Thank you for your answer. It seems to me (from other messages) that smail is easier to manage WRT this problem (with routers, directors and the like). Problem is I don't like smail (and recent problems with newer smail don't make me like it more). What I'd like sendmail to do is: localhost mail deliver locally don't rewrite header LAN maildeliver thru eth0 don't rewrite header internet mail deliver thru ppp0 rewrite header -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Smail/Sendmail Question
Graham Hello, I was wondering if the following is possible using Graham either Smail or Sendmail, Simple in sendmail. Graham What I want to do is to use smail or sendmail mail to deliver Graham my internet email, The problem I have is that I need one of Graham these packages to deliver any local mail or network mail to ^^ Graham the appropriate user/server, but to queue all internet email Graham until my dialup connection is established using ppp, I also ^^^ Graham need smail or sendmail to change the from address of the Graham email to the address of my internet email account, (i.e. email Graham bound for the internet needs the From address changed from Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is my Linux box to Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] my internet email account). Graham Is this possible? if so how. __ OSTYPE(debian)dnl FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl define(`confDELIVERY_MODE', `queue') MAILER(local)dnl MAILER(smtp)dnl Cwinternet.com MASQUERADE_AS(internet.com)dnl __ Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't this rewrite 'From' for every message, and not only for those 'going out' of his LAN? Also, doesn't confDELIVERY_MODE=queue queue all messages and wait for runq to make the delivery? I'm asking these question 'cos I have the same problem. -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
a problem with headers (Was: in search for Mr. Scheetz)
Hi, first of all I want to thank all those who helped me in my desperate search for Mr. Scheetz. Now here's the problem that made impossible for me to reach Mr. Scheetz directly I'm using elm+sendmail+popclient to send/receive my mail. On my outbound mail, I use elm to properly rewrite the header with my POPaccount address. It used to work, but Mr. Scheetz's ISP does (or at least this is what I have understood) some checks on mail headers to reject spam. My mail messages seems to originate from my machine, which is not permanently on internet and has no valid DNS name. Since this name doesn't resolve, my messages can't reach Mr. Scheetz directly since they're taken as spam (coming from a fake address). Once upon a time I used to masquerade (in sendmail) my local machine name with my ISP name. This was the only way known to me at that time to make the return address come out right. When I discovered (thanks to this list again) the elm header rewriting function, I stopped masquerading. I tried to revert to this solution, but it doesn't seems to work (take a look at my header) now. Now my questions are: 1. how can I make my messages reach Mr. Scheetz (and everybody who has spam address check)? 2. is there a way (preferably with sendmail, but I'm evaluating all suggestions) to masquerade only outbound messages (I have a small LAN and masquerading makes mail stop working on my LAN) I'm not attaching any config file (pollution-wise), but I'm ready to send whatever could help sort this out. TIA -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
OFF TOPIC: in search for Mr. Scheetz
Hi, sorry for this waste of bandwith, but this message is somewhat debian related. I need to contact Mr. Dale Scheetz, who used to be an active debian developer and debian CD burner (this is the reason why I'm looking for him). I sent many messages to his (old?) address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), but never got any answer. If anybody knows how I can contact him, please send me a private message Again, I apoligize for using this very useful list for a 'private' need. -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
cdwrite and cd writers
Hi all, not really a debian question, so please excuse me if someone's bothered. Is there any other SCSI cd writer supported by cdwrite (I have 2.0, any new release?) except hp, yamaha, philips and kodak? I have a teac r55s and it seems it's not supported. Is it really unsupported? Since it's so difficult to find external SCSI writers, I'd like to knmow it before I return the writer. Yamaha looks like the only other chance available here. Any advice/model to avoid? thanks for your time. -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
using cd-jukebox under linux
Hi all, I need to use a cd-jukebox and I hope I can do it under linux. It's a SCSI thing has 14 drives and takes up 2 SCSI ids (2x7 discs). Now it's attached to a win3.11 box with an adaptec 2940AU. Problem is that machine sees all the drives at boot time, but there's no way to access them under windows (letters/drives show, but they're all empty). I don't want to mess with win95 + have a linux box running debian with a 2.0.27 kernel. I'm ready to recompile it, and would like to ask if there's any doc about using such beast .. I guess I have to use CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN, but what else? when all it's up, under which devices will I found the drives? /dev/scd? Should I create other /dev/scd? devices (I see only scd0 and scd1)? Any experience is welcome. FWIW, debian machine is an IBM 315 with 128 MB ram, adaptec 2940UW, SCSI cd, SCSI tape, running mostly as a samba server. -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
remote backup
Hi, and happy holidays season to all. I'm trying to remote backup a debian machine and I'm having some trouble, so I'm looking for advice. Usually I backup using tob, i.e. afio. What I want now is that for the machine with tape to share it with other machines on the same lan, at least allowing them to write their backup on the tape. In tob docs there's a reference to a sample-rc directory containing examples, but I can't find it anywhere (I'm using tob 0.14-1). I followed istructions given in another doc (called remotebackup) but it all ends up in a 'permission denied' message on the client machine. After a lot of mess with rsh and .rhosts files, I can execute 'stupid' commands (i.e. ls) but not backup. afio seems not to understand [EMAIL PROTECTED]:device syntax (used in that example). afio likes host:device syntax, but gives permission denied, so I'm stuck. Before giving up, I tried nc (netcat). It looks promising, but all the doc is 60K 'introduction' file, no man page, no switch list. Before dive into it, I'd like to know if there's any info around. Thank you very much -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ping? no messages today
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bogus packet size
Hi all, today I found an old 386 locked up. After rebooting, I read this message in /var/log/messages: bogus packet size: 1 status=0x21 nxpg=0x40 This machine is on a local net, uses a ne2k clone (like many other machines on that LAN), and no other machine signaled such error. What does that message mean? LAN card going crazy? or what? Thanks for your help. PS: I don't know, nor mean, that there's a relation between lock up and net card message. Kernel is a standard debian 2.0.6 kernel (used by at least another machine on that net. No special hardware, just an old box doing printserving). -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
switching from ide to scsi
Hi all, I decided to go the right way with one of my server and use scsi disk instead of ide. That machine has already got a scsi controller (aha2940) that drives a dat tape, so I only need to buy a scsi disk. That machine is using debian 1.1 on ide and will probably use 1.2 on scsi. What would be the best way to move data (and all) from the old ide disk to the new scsi one? Since that machine is a main server and need maximum uptime, downtime has to be as low as possible. These are my questions: - installing debian on scsi before moving data is not a problem, if I can plug in the scsi disk, install debian on it, move data and then unplug ide, but I don't know if this is doable (I read about having problems with ide+scsi disks in the same machine). Can I test the new installation without removing the old ide disk (just in case ..)? - I know I could back up all the ide disk (maybe with tar? to cope with device files?) and then untar, but I know I should at least be careful with: - changing mounts (hda? to sda?) - rerunning lilo on scsi after changing lilo.conf - anything else? Any advice is welcome. -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
swap-free weirdness (Was: fsck from cron)
I found one of the strange messages given by my machine before the lock up. It was something like this: swap-free: weirdness free_one_pmd: bad directory entry 01000 I don't know if this message has anything to do with the lock up, but I'd like to know what it means, and I serious, what to do to prevent it. Thanks in advance -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
fsck from cron?
Hi all! I had a problem on a debian box (not related to debian, I think it's hardware) but I'd like to ask here anyway. It's a 1.1 debian box with some upgrade to 1.2, pentium 166/64MB ram, ide disk and aha2940+dat tape (I know, I know server should never use ide - I'll switch to SCSI as soon as retailers open after summer vacations). The problem was fs error totally blocking the machine. After a bad day spent fsck'ing an ide disk with file system inconsistencies (was that the word?) I was wondering if/how was possible to do some kind of scheduled-fsck checks for those machines that never reboot (well, almost never), something done weekly, monthly .. That would not eliminate fs errors (I have never seen fs errors on a linux box in 4 years), but would catch them early and on a regular base. I think this can be quite tricky, since when you check / you have nothing to write to (no mail/log file), and I'm not so sure what the best check order would be (check / first, check it last), and I don't know if cron can be run on a system in that state. Before the crash, that system showed strange messages that were never logged anywhere. I don't have them, since I was not there when machine stopped, but I wonder why file system inconsistencies are not logged. Some weeks ago we had messages saying something like bad pdm .. I wrote it on a piece of paper, so I can send it if this can help understand what happened. Those messages were not logged too (that's why I understimated them). Thanks for your help/suggestion/comments. Thanks to all developers for their gd work. -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
[XINETD] problems
Hi all, I'm trying to learn xinetd so I installed 2.1.7-3 (from debian 1.2) on a debian 1.1-upgraded-to-1.2 machine. I found these (little) problems: 1. config file (when modified) is not reread using killall -USR1 xinetd or /etc/init.d/xinetd reload. I have to stop and start it 2. using log_type = FILE filename doesn't work if filename doesn't exist. Man page says it should create it, but it doesn't. Am I overlooking something? Can anyone confirm these problems? -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [XINETD] manpage missing FIXED
Hi, and many thanks to all the kind people who answered my question(*). I found xinetd.conf man page, so I checked out xinetd man page to see if a bug was lying there (referring to xinetd (5) instead of xinetd.conf (5)), but it was all ok. So I was wrong. But I remember not seeing a pointer to xinetd.conf somewhere. So I tried man -k xinetd.conf, and that's what it shows xinetd (1) - the internet extended service daemon xinetd.log (5) - xinetd service log format Do I have to upgrade man page index somehow? Lesson learned: Debian is always right. Read man page carefully :) (*) especially to Dimitri (Dima), Martin.Bialasinski and Oliver Elphick (thanks for manpage) -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
[XINETD] manpage missing
Hi debian fellows, I installed today 1.2.17 from a Flexible Software CD (thanks Dale). I wanted to try xinetd and found substituting it to inetd painless. When I wanted to look at the configuration issue, I found that xinetd (5) is missing. Is this a (debian/linux) bug? Should I file a bugreport? Is there anybody who can send me that manpage? Thanks in advance -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
is awk working?
Hi,
I'm using an 'old' release of debian (1.1.13), and I'm happy with it. I found
out the other day that awk is not working the way its man page says.
If I use awk --re-interval, it should accept reg-expr like [0-9]{5} to mean
five numbers in row (a reg-expr definition of ZIP code?), but it doesn't.
It never matches things like 29100, instead matches 0{5} literaly. Am I
missing something or is it really broken?
Has anybody experienced this? Has it been fixed in more recent releases? I have
no longer Slack to test if this is debian-specific or not. Debian is so superior
I can live with this bug ..
PS: FWIW it's gawk 3.0 patch level 0
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Re: LILO: Wrong Loader ..
On Fri, 6 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Disclaimer: it's my fault, I know. On a stable (1.1.13) debian box I tried to upgrade the kernel from install 2.0.6 to a home-built 2.0.27. The home built kernel is known to work, so this is not the problem. I built it via kernel-package, so I could install it with dpkg. After that, I reboot to test the new kernel (ERROR: I know 2.0.27 needs a newer lilo, like 17-2 (the one I usually install with 2.0.27 - and they work!)) ^ THIS IS MY SECOND ERROR IN A ROW The reboot came up with a LILO: Wrong Loader .. Giving up message, or something like that. I realized I missed lilo upgrade, so rebuilt a boot disk and installed lilo-17-2 Reboot and .. same message. So I looked for lilo dependecies, and it depends on mbr. Upgraded also mbr, same message. What can I do to make that box boot again? I had exactly the same configuration, new kernel version and boot problem. I upgraded lilo to version 19-2, reran lilo and the new kernel was bootable. According to /usr/lib/kernel-package/rules the kernel is made as bzImage instead of zImage if you use make-kpkg. Therefore another solution could be modifying /usr/lib/kernel-package/rules to make a zImage. I haven't tried that one. I do not use mbr in the boot process and always configure lilo.conf by hand so that could make the difference. In short, lilo 19-2 can and should work with kernel-source 2.0.27 and kernel-package 3.03. Hope this helps narrowing down the problem. I think you're totally right. I figured it out myself this morning (sleeping always help) that lilo-17.2 could not be right, and that I'd have used the one coming with debian 1.2 (which is 19.2, IIRC, like you say). Thank you very much. -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
LILO: Wrong Loader ..
Disclaimer: it's my fault, I know. On a stable (1.1.13) debian box I tried to upgrade the kernel from install 2.0.6 to a home-built 2.0.27. The home built kernel is known to work, so this is not the problem. I built it via kernel-package, so I could install it with dpkg. After that, I reboot to test the new kernel (ERROR: I know 2.0.27 needs a newer lilo, like 17-2 (the one I usually install with 2.0.27 - and they work!)) The reboot came up with a LILO: Wrong Loader .. Giving up message, or something like that. I realized I missed lilo upgrade, so rebuilt a boot disk and installed lilo-17-2 Reboot and .. same message. So I looked for lilo dependecies, and it depends on mbr. Upgraded also mbr, same message. What can I do to make that box boot again? Thanks in advance! -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
AT cards: which one?
Hi, I've found a brochure by Allied Telesyn saying that linux supports these netcards: at1500 at2000 (ne2000 clone) at2560 (10/100 Mbit, PCI) I'm surprised, since I've never seen at2560 supported by kernel, and it mentions at1700 as not supported (and I know they are). Did anybody try at2560? Which result? What about at1700? TIA -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free!
intel ether express pro/10+ pci
Hi all, does anybody have any experience with the LAN card in the subject? do they work with linux? which driver (eepro?)? TIA -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free!
Re: ppp loopback
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] But .. it doesn't start ip-up properly, since ip-up does the following: [snip] and I get messages from the echo lines, but I don't get any mail popped or sent. Strange is, if I run ip-up by hand, it behaves properly. Do putmail and getmail rely on any settings of uid? Slackware 3.0's I don't know. Maybe. putmail simply checks if there are files in /var/spool/mqueue and if so starts sendmail on the queue. getmail starts popclient with appropriate parameters, and the filters received mail with awk. I'll check on this, but id doesn't work with root either. I also have to say that only getmail is not working .. mail get sent. So probably it's a problem with popclient (which is newer than Slack and has some differencies in options .. and is obsolete, substituted by .. fetchmail? that was alos substituted by .. don't remember .. I'll try qpopper and see how it behaves. pppd ran ip-up (for me) with euid=root, uid=carey. Debian's pppd runs ip-up with euid=root, uid=root. I'm using the gid=carey to work out who invoked pppd. Also, in debian pppd I have to set default route by hand, since pppd informs me that he refuses to substitute my default route (usually to eth0) to ppp0 I'm using defaultroute in options file, but this doesn't help. Are you sure the previous default route is right? For example, at Well. I'm almost sure here (but could be wrong anyway). My LAN is made up of two PCs, rarely up together (it's my home LAN). So default route is usually thru eth0, like this: (route -n) Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface a.b.c.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 05 lo 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 01 eth0 This is how both Slack and Debian (with /etc/init.d/network) set it up. When I call my ISP, I want my default route to be thru it: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface a.b.c.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 05 lo 0.0.0.0 my.isp.addr 255.255.255.0 U 0 01 ppp0 that's it. When I hang up, it has to revert to prior setup. With Slack that happened simply using defaultroute in /etc/ppp/options. The best solution is to start routed -q which updates my machine You probably have real networks, so you have real routers and gateways. I think mine would be a little up-on-steroids home LAN if I used routed. from the router's periodic broadcasts. I think I should put some stuff in /etc/gateways in case someone else's machine starts broadcasting bogus routes though. Thanks for your suggestions, -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free!
Re: ppp loopback
Hi all and thanks to Dimitri and Bruce Perens who showed me the way .. Apr 1 21:05:52 zanzy pppd[351]: Serial line is looped back. ... What does this mean?(*) What can I do to prevent it? Usually happens when a) you forgot to send ppp command to your ISP (ie. common login sequence is to to send username, password and then type of service -- ppp, slip, whatever) This is not the case, since, as I said, the same script with same hw works fine .. but it's Slackware, and I want to get rid of it and move completely to debian. b) ppp takes long time to start on your ISP's box. This is probably the cause, but still I don't see why .. except Slack pppd being slower than debian pppd .. so not catching up with my ISP. Reading Debian doc about pppd (/usr/doc/pppd/README) suggest me to put a chat chat script sleep 5 in my script and this fixed it. But .. it doesn't start ip-up properly, since ip-up does the following: #!/bin/sh # # $Id: ip-up,v 1.1 1996/01/31 21:25:59 alvar Exp $ # # This script is run by the pppd after the link is established. # It should be used to add routes, set IP address, run the mailq # etc. # # This script is called with the following arguments: #Arg Name Example #$1 Interface name ppp0 #$2 The ttyttyS1 #$3 The link speed 38400 #$4 Local IP number12.34.56.78 #$5 Peer IP number12.34.56.99 # # The environment is cleared before executing this script # so the path must be reset # PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin export PATH # ADDED # MK @ PC 96/01/25 # say we're on-line echo running on $1 to $5 as $4 @ $3 /dev/console EXECDIR=/etc/ppp # routing route del default route add default dev ppp0 # send mail echo 'doing putmail' /dev/console $EXECDIR/putmail # get mail echo 'doing getmail' /dev/console $EXECDIR/getmail echo ip-up done! /dev/console # last line and I get messages from the echo lines, but I don't get any mail popped or sent. Strange is, if I run ip-up by hand, it behaves properly. Also, in debian pppd I have to set default route by hand, since pppd informs me that he refuses to substitute my default route (usually to eth0) to ppp0 I'm using defaultroute in options file, but this doesn't help. I'm not complaining, when I compare slackware to debian. In all machine I have installed (up to now, more than 10) debian behaves generally better than Slack, so I'm happily moving all machine to debian. I just want to know what I'm doing wrong here, since probably it's my fault. Thanks to all the folks who made and still make debian so good! Any help is welcome Thanks in advance b) use TIMEOUT chat commands, passive or silent pppd options. I'll try them -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free!
ppp loopback
Hi all, last time I fired up ppp it connected to my ISP, but immediatly hung up. In /var/log/daemon.log I find: Apr 1 21:05:30 zanzy pppd[351]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 Apr 1 21:05:50 zanzy pppd[351]: Serial connection established. Apr 1 21:05:51 zanzy pppd[351]: Using interface ppp0 Apr 1 21:05:51 zanzy pppd[351]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/modem Apr 1 21:05:52 zanzy pppd[351]: Serial line is looped back. Apr 1 21:05:52 zanzy pppd[351]: Connection terminated. Apr 1 21:05:52 zanzy pppd[351]: Exit. What does this mean?(*) What can I do to prevent it? I'm using ppp-2.2.0f on a rather stable debian 1.1. With same hardware, but with old Slackware, it doesn't happen. Can somebody help me? (*) is it a sort of 'Upgrade to ppp-x.y.z' ? -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free!
