notebook installation
I got an old Compaq LTE lite 4/33 on to which I want to load debian. I do not have a cd rom but will be borrowing a friends external. I tried starting the installation with the rescue disk I have from my desktop installation and it is not booting correctly It just says 'loading root.bin ...boot failed I do not know very very much about notebooks, perhaps the hardware is named differntly. If someone could advise me on how to do an installation on this notebook I would appreciate it. Perhaps once I get it booted I could install via ftp through a null modem. Any way any help is appreciated. Thnks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi im Sandra
Golly this Debian stuff is great! Not only do I get to learn all about Unix, but now really neat girls want to be my friend. I can hardly wait to open tomorrows mail. Thanks to everyone -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
StarOffice install problem
I have decided to swallow my pride and ask for help. Man, do I feel stupid. Ok this is what happened. I installed StarOffice 4.0. I wanted to do a network install. That is, I wanted to install the whole thing into /usr/local/bin/StarOffice. Then let individual users, which is really only me on my practice network, do the 11mg network install to their home directorys. Well the setup script would not run as root so I logged in as regular usr. Then the install went ok except that I forgot to change the default install directory from /home/tom/Staroffice to /usr/local/bin/StarOffice so it installed to the wrong directory. Anyway I decided to do the 11mg network install anyway to see what the application looked like, figuring I could change it later. That I installed to /home/tom/Starofficeb. Application worked fine. I used it for a few weeks but I knew this would not due. You can't keep a major application in a users directory. I wanted to do a fresh install. I then rm - /home/tom Star* and proceded to rerun the setup script. This will not run saying it is having trouble creating /usr/local/bin/StarOffice. I suppose that rm did not delete all the necessary files before a reinstall is possible, or some sort of permissions issue is going on that I don't understand. Anyway sorrry for being so verbose, but I want to provide enough information. Any help is appreciated. By the way, How do you change partition sizes without reinstalling the system. I seem to be wasting a lot of space. Thank you for anyt help Tom -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
compiling and installing non deb stuff
1. Is is normally best to try something out in my home directory before installing it as root? Will this always be possible? 2. Should source file normally be (tar -zxvf *.tar.gz) in /, or /usr, or /usr/local, or somewhere else? Do most programmers expect that you are installing from a particular directory? 3. What fundamental differences are there in the file system structure of debian as compared to say other Linux distributions, or other Unix's (sun-OS, hpux, aix), that are relevant to compilation and installation issues. That is what kinds of changes commonly need to be made to make files and install scripts. 4. Are there established procedures and practices that professional system administrators follow when compiling and installing software that could be recommended as good guidelines for me or any other less experienced person to follow. Thank you for any help. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: connecting linux and win95
Try connecting the two machines via a null modem cable. Then transfer the files using kermit On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, FizzyPop wrote: 'scuse the ignorance but: Is ther a way to transfer files from a win95 machine to a linux laptop w/o installing linux on both machines? I just installed the base system on the laptop and have been using the win95 machine to d/l all the packages and then transfering via floppy. I would have hooked the linux laptop to the network and d/l'ed straight onto it but my ethernet card is a Xircon CreditCard, unrecognized by the base and hence unuseable to install via ftp. Maybe a serial connection? Any help on how to pull it off? Thanks in advance BubblyBrew -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Linux on top of win95
I know Linux can be installed ontop of a dos partition. Can it be installed on top of Win 95 or NT. I need to know this because although I run linux at home my office is NT and 95. I would like to be able to boot to linux in the office in order to work on some of my personal projects when I have free time at lunch or after work. How safe is this way of running Debian? Is there any chance of it damaging either my office computer or the network. (The network is currently 2 base t, but will be upgraded to 10 base t) My boss absolutely refuses to allow me run linux as a normal part of the network. Lets be frank, I want to run linux during lunch and after work. But I do not want to lose my job. Can I do it? How? Thank You -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Qddb or other databases
Has anyone installed qddb on debian. Could you tell me the correct changes to make to the Makefile. Also I there is any significant reason to prefer a different database(msql, mysql, adabas etc) I'd like to hear it. Thank you -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Netscape 4.04
It might be a good idea if the netscape4.deb installation did not remove netscape 3 until it has verified that everything is set for the new install. As of now I am left with nothing. As far as I can tell the file I got from ftp.netscape.com matches the required syntax of the ' file in /tmp must be named blah.blah.blah message. But apparently I am to stupid to live. So please just tell the name of the file at ftp.netscape.com including the path to the directory it is in. If the file needs to be renamed please tell me that also. Perhaps it is just better and easier to bypass the Deb file. But I do not know where I should be installed. Any help is appreciated. Pitifully yours, Tom Malloy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: debian-user-digest broken?
I have not been receiving digests for a few day now. Is the system broken? Perhaps some miscreant has unsubscribed me -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
lilo and dosemu
It is my understanding that you cannot use dosemu to access partitions which use the lilo boot system. This seems to indicate that the boot partition, normally dev/hda1, cannot be DOS on a dual boot system if you intend to use dosemu from linux. Two solutions are suggested by this. One repartion the harddrive so that /dev/hda1 is Linux and not DOS. Two change the booting processs, perhaps by some adjustment to the MBR, so that the machine does not boot from /dev/hda1 but from some other non DOS partition Since I would prefer not to reinstall everything on both linux and dos the second solution is preferable. Is it possible? How do I do it? Or am I misunderstanding something? Thanks for any help Tom -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Linux as a career path
In my work as corporate technical recruiter I see thousands of resumes and lots of job requests. I have yet to see linux on any of them. ( except my own resume) Most people in the industry, with the exception of some nt drones, think linux is an excellent os. The only reservation they have is the lack of off the shelf apps. As this changes Linux will be come a viable career path. However, most of the jobs I handle are fairly advanced. I suspect that Linux would be very useful in getting an entry level or lowerlevel position. And personally I would go out of my way for someone who supports or develops Linux. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian - NT interaction
My office runs NT in a peer to peer configuration. We use foxpro alot. Is there anyway that I could run Debian on my machine at work, so I can use what I am already comfortable with, but maintain a connectivity with the rest of the network? That is can I stick a debian machine into an NT network, access and work with the foxpro database, and communicate with the rest of the network? I am afraid I already know the answer to this question, but hope springs eternal. I don't really have the technical expertise to convert the network over to linux, so I can't really sugest that. The office network is not yet setup to allow access from home. When it is should I request anything specific in the configuration to make access through debian easier? Thank you for any help, Tom Malloy Technical Recruiter -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: user questions.
One of the posters to this thread noted that even if a question has been posted 500 times the 501 questioner is entitled to an answer. I agree with this. However a lost opportunity occurs when the same people reanswer the question. Answering questions is itself edifying. Ask anyone who has taught and they will confirm this. If you are a user who has had, for example, a ppp install question that has been answered. You now know the answer. Why not answer it when it comes up again. This will reinforce the information in your brain and is a valid way to contribute to Debian. Sharing the burden will help keep Debian more open, more free, and more democratic. I will note again that a more formal Debian training program for newbie and novice users might be a good idea. Most beginners need a some formal structure, even if it is an illusion, to help them learn. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
What is PPS
I am about to start a new job. My boss sent me some documentation with some attached files that pine lists as PPS application. These are unreadable. I tried forwarding them to myself so I could read them with netscape. This did not work, and in fact they caused netscape to crash. I tried loading one of the attachments into vi. This was quite hopeless. My next thought, figuring it was postscript file was to try ghostview. This also failed with some stack error. GV had the same result. So, what is PPS? How can I read these mysterious files. If I can avoid it I would rather not ask my boss to re-send. Any help is appreciated. Regards, Tom Oh by the way, it is often asked if knowing Linux will help you get a job. I am about to start as a technical recruiter ( head hunter), and I can definitely say even my limited knowledge from running Debian was instrumental in getting this position. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
PPP kill problem
My telephone has an answering service which beeps if I have messages when I pick up the receiver. This is the same phone I use for the computer. If I forget to check the line, or if there is a time out disconnect, and there is a message(hence a beep beep beep) the scripts setoff by PON will not run correctly. Stopping PON is difficult because a normal KILL is to slow. PON will have already stopped because of the carrier detect falure, but will come back in little while with a different PID. Kill -9 works at stopping PON, but does not release the LOCK on ttyS1. I release the Lock by hand or sometimes by starting minicom which does it for me. This is all kind of a pain in the butt. There are two solutions to this problem that I can think of. I am not sure how to do either, and would appreciate help in learning. If possible please tell me both solutions as this will increase my knowledge. Solution A: Find a way of killing the PID that also releases the lock Solution B: Edit the PON scripts so that they pause until the beeps are done, and there is a clear line. Any help is as always greatly appreciated. Thankyou Tommy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Segmentation fault (man apropos)
Since last evening I have been getting segmention faults in man and in apropos. Can anyone explain to me what that means and how I fix it? Do I have to reinstall? I tried running fsck, but that does not seem to have done anything. I am not sure what files or output to annex here in order to provide useful information. Before the errors started I had been fiddling around trying to figure out how to send a fax from debian. I had created a sybolic link /dev/fax - /dev/ttyS1. I had looked at and edited some files /etc/efax.rc. I was not succesful in my efforts. Then I decided to take a break and adjust my system clock for daylight savings time. ( an odd americam custom) Not being sure how to do this I typed apropos time. This is when the first segmentation fault occured. All of the actions described were proformed while logged in as root. I don't know if my prior actions have any relation to the errors, but have included them just in case. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Thank you -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian Certified
I have been thinking that some system of evaluating proficiency in Debian Gnu/Linux and its applications might be helpful to both beginning and advanced users. (and developers also) Many commercial sites hesitate to use Linux because of support issues. As this changes, and hopefully it will, being a certified expert in some area could be very helpful in marketing oneself. I have known several people who have obtained nice positions because they were Microsoft certified. None of these people was very impressive, so I assume the certification counted for something. Ok, if you have a Phd in cs, or are making a million dollars a minute as a programmer you probably don't need this. However I think that Linux should, and does, provide the means for someone with no prior experience to advance to an extremely high level. Some recognition of those who attain that seems warranted. For beginners and intermediate level users some basis for evaluating ones development is encouraging. Another hobby of mine, chess, benifits greatly from a rating system. Of course these are quite differnt things. However, it is very easy for a person to tell when they have advanced from beginning to novice user. We could all list criteria that would be remarkably similar. It becomes more problematic when progressing from novice through intermediacy to advanced levels. Many people are curious to learn more about linux. I think they might appreciate having a sense of how they are doing. This also might have the added benifit of more closely involving Debian users with Debian org There are a lot of questions that would have to be ironed out before any evaluation system could be put in place. I am only inquiring if others think this might be a good idea. I am quite willing to contribute, to the degree my knowledge permits, to this project if others think it might be useful. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
installing twin and other questions
I know someone asked about this recently. Sorry for not paying more attention. I got twin from the caldera archive. It does not seem to have compiled correctly. Can anyone tell me how they got it up and running? I am trying to install it to /twin because I have a lot of room on /. I know that it is hard to tell what the problem I am having is. Is it appropriate to attach a script file of the compile? If it is I can do that. I try to do almost everything except administration as user. I only proform administration such as installing all debian stuff as root. Is it safe to install/compile non-debian programs as root. I tried to install twin as both and neither worked well. Why is it that certain programs do not execute as root even though x permission is set. (xboard for example) I am not advocating playing chess as root I would just like to understand the mechanics involved. And lastly, like most all of you I love poking around my system. I have no objection to having to fiddle around a little in order to make things work. In fact I love it. This is one of the charms of linux and something will be lost when or if it becomes a fully polished product. However having said that, it really annoys me when I cannot try an application deselect says I have installed because I cannot figure out what the name of the executable is. Many new linux users are not coming with strong unix backrounds. And may in fact know little or nothing about the program they are trying out or learning. Please keep this in mind. At least let us know how to start the application. Anyway dselect says visual-tcl is installed, but where is it? Thank you for any help with these questions, and for all the previous help you all have given me. Tommy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
mounting cdrom
When I installed debian the base system from cdrom I was asked the name of the block device. It would not accept cd or cdrom, so I tried hdb. This worked and the install proceded without incident. This may have caused a problem Now I am having trouble mounting the cdrom. Below is my fstab including the various changes I tried. Below that is a list of the command line mounts I tried and the message returned # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # file system mount point type options dump pass /dev/hda2 / ext2defaults0 1 /dev/hda3 noneswapsw 0 0 proc/procprocdefaults0 0 /dev/hda5 /usr ext2defaults 0 2 /dev/hda6 /var ext2defaults 0 2 /dev/hda7 /home ext2defaults 0 2 /dev/hdb /cdrom iso9660 ro,noauto0 0 on the last entry I also tried /dev/cdrom and /dev/sbpcd These all return message, after typing mount (hdb, cdrom, sbpcd) at a prompt, mount can't find * in /etc/mtab or /etc/fstab. Trying to mount from a command line produced the same results, but a different message. mount -t iso9660 -r /dev/hdb/cdrom produces mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /cdrom busy I also tried it for cdrom and sbpcd. In all these cases nothing ever appears in /cdrom. What am I doing wrong and how can I fix it? Thankyou Tom ps. Yes, there is a cd in the drive -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
