Re: A pipe dream?
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 06:58:20PM -0500, Mitch Blevins wrote: In foo.debian-user, you wrote: That is basically what I do. I back up my /etc tree and my /home tree to a zip. I do a complete backup once a week in a cron job and it still all fits on one zip. It does not require much of script tar -cf /zip/home.tar.gz -C /home . tar -cf /zip/etc.tar.gz -C /etc . You may want to also add a line to the top of this script: dpkg --get-selections /etc/my_packages.dat so that you can easily recreate the installed packages on your system (which your /etc backup has the config files for...) -Mitch -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Interesting idea. I'm getting a CD-RW soon and may try that. I'd backup two more directories: /var - (dpkg databases, mysql data, web data) /usr/local - a whole lot of stuff I've installed and compiled myself -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
Re: A pipe dream?
If anyone can see something wrong with such an idea - or, better still, if someone is well on the way to producing such a tool - I would be pleased to hear about it. Nope. Makes perfect sense. You can also do dpkg --get-selections some_file_name to back up your list of installed/selected file. When you need to restore, restore some_file_name, do dpkg --set-selections some_file_name to re-select all of the packages you had installed before the crash, and run apt-get or dselects install option to get them all back. Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- | You think you're so smart, but I've seen you naked | | and I'll prob'ly see you naked again ... | | --The Barenaked Ladies, Blame It On Me | --
Re: A pipe dream? (a.k.a. File Backups)
Steve Lamb wrote: On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:14:56 -0500, Harrison, Shawn wrote: Much of what is customized or specific in the system is found in the /etc directory, and then all of your data files should be in the /home directory. So if you back up those two trees, you'll be mostly there, I would think. As others have pointed out, you'd probably want to backup /var and also /usr/local (if it isn't part of /var). It might be worthwhile to have a read through the FSSTND, just to check we aren't all forgetting something. This is not entirely true. It ignores things like, o, just an example here... /var/majordom and /usr/lib/listar. Both are mailing lists that keep data in those directories that people might want. Wouldn't that be a bug? Saving data in /usr, I mean? HTH - HAND Jiri
Re: A pipe dream?
Hi there, Many thanks to all those who offered suggestions; I am very grateful. Obviously some had access to more information than I have been able to find - such as documentation on the `get-selections' and `put-selections' options for dpkg. Time for me to go searching :-) Barrie.
A pipe dream?
Hi there, I have an idea and wondered if there was some vital flaw in my scheme that skilled folk like you could spot. My linux box is completely stand-alone and apart from a bit of ftp, most of my stuff comes from Debian CDs. I wondered whether I could cut down what I backup realising that much is already on my CDs. Obviously, I would still have to backup configuration files but, generally, these are a small part of a package. If anyone can see something wrong with such an idea - or, better still, if someone is well on the way to producing such a tool - I would be pleased to hear about it. Barrie.
Re: A pipe dream? (a.k.a. File Backups)
Much of what is customized or specific in the system is found in the /etc directory, and then all of your data files should be in the /home directory. So if you back up those two trees, you'll be mostly there, I would think. == [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
Re: A pipe dream?
That is basically what I do. I back up my /etc tree and my /home tree to a zip. I do a complete backup once a week in a cron job and it still all fits on one zip. It does not require much of script tar -cf /zip/home.tar.gz -C /home . tar -cf /zip/etc.tar.gz -C /etc . __ Michael Procario EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Physics PHONE: 412/268-3887 Carnegie Mellon University Another casualty of applied metaphysics __
Re: A pipe dream? (a.k.a. File Backups)
Harrison, Shawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Much of what is customized or specific in the system is found in the /etc directory, and then all of your data files should be in the /home directory. So if you back up those two trees, you'll be mostly there, I would think. You should also consider the tree under /usr/local.
Re: A pipe dream? (a.k.a. File Backups)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Whoops, forgot to send this to the list. ==BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE== From: Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Harrison, Shawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:15:40 -0800 Reply-To: Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:14:56 -0500, Harrison, Shawn wrote: Much of what is customized or specific in the system is found in the /etc directory, and then all of your data files should be in the /home directory. So if you back up those two trees, you'll be mostly there, I would think. This is not entirely true. It ignores things like, o, just an example here... /var/majordom and /usr/lib/listar. Both are mailing lists that keep data in those directories that people might want. For backing up and keeping all the custom stuff on a machine it is easier to specify exlcudes to a catchall than trying to include everything. Directories that can, for the most part, be excluded from a comprehensive backup: /dev /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin /usr/X11R? - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- ===END FORWARDED MESSAGE=== - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNq5Cl3pf7K2LbpnFEQK9igCg6VL4hYU/D/g7dy9xOzhF8vDsXVgAoJDU o6HSCEQ/ka0u0PKO8Ho29qhM =ERkZ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: A pipe dream?
In foo.debian-user, you wrote: That is basically what I do. I back up my /etc tree and my /home tree to a zip. I do a complete backup once a week in a cron job and it still all fits on one zip. It does not require much of script tar -cf /zip/home.tar.gz -C /home . tar -cf /zip/etc.tar.gz -C /etc . You may want to also add a line to the top of this script: dpkg --get-selections /etc/my_packages.dat so that you can easily recreate the installed packages on your system (which your /etc backup has the config files for...) -Mitch
