Re: A strange new phenomena
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 03:18:22PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Yes. The only sliver was upgrade to sid, ... Ouch! That's bad advice, the point of no return. or the latest xorg-driver Apparently it was working at some stage and it was an UPGRADE which CAUSED the OP's problem? So upgrading further without any knowledge of what is causing the problem can only exacerbate the problem. you can lay hands on. The fact that it happens before startx is run, is perhaps due to some of the graphics driver stack now being in the Linux kernel. Right, and do we know the video hardware, kernel, video driver, etc. ... ? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130818091844.GG25001@tal
Re: A strange new phenomena
On 8/18/13, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 03:18:22PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Yes. The only sliver was upgrade to sid, ... Ouch! That's bad advice, the point of no return. :) It was just a sliver :/ And another sliver: I think once I got it going (with the random restarts issue), I took to suspend/resume rather than restart for awhile. I think I was already on sid, so by upgrade for me it was simply wait, find bug if possible, file bug otherwise, cross fingers, upgrade again... or the latest xorg-driver Apparently it was working at some stage and it was an UPGRADE which CAUSED the OP's problem? So upgrading further without any knowledge of what is causing the problem can only exacerbate the problem. ACKnowledge. The OP ought to try to remember or discover what his 'upgrade' was. Especially with 'testing' still being early days AIUI. you can lay hands on. The fact that it happens before startx is run, is perhaps due to some of the graphics driver stack now being in the Linux kernel. Right, and do we know the video hardware, kernel, video driver, etc. ... Dear OP, do you know the video hardware, kernel, video driver, etc. ... my sliver of memory from ~6 or more years ago is not in any way definitive, of course. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caosgnsqjpavldl0mkf1zsyckpxkt2ckywso8-sbnh5xabcw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: A strange new phenomena
On 18 Aug 2013, Harry Putnam wrote: Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net writes: On 8/18/13, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I've been seeing something entirely new and unexpected during boot up lately. Every few boots, something happens that prevents me logging in. .. It appears to be a mashup of the grub screen (light blue with white scroll). and made into tiles mashed together haphazardly. That, at least, describes the upper portion of the screen. Maybe around 75%. Sounds like a display driver issue. ISTR getting this same problem many years ago. I guess if you had a glimmer of memory about how you went about tracking it down... you would have said so eh? If you have a removeable video card it might be worth taking it out and putting it back. I've solved strange display problems like that a couple of times in the past. -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk http://www.acupuncturecourse.org.uk http://www.smashwords.com/profile.view/acampbell https://itunes.apple.com/ca/artist/anthony-campbell/id73235412 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130818100250.ga...@arcadia.home.gateway
Re: A strange new phenomena
Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net writes: [...] Right, and do we know the video hardware, kernel, video driver, etc. ... Dear OP, do you know the video hardware, kernel, video driver, etc. ... my sliver of memory from ~6 or more years ago is not in any way definitive, of course. From lspci -vk 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Kernel: uname -r 3.0.0-1-686-pae It looks like I have just about every video driver known to man installed for some reason unknown to me. I wondered about that a time or two but not enough to dig into it. But know that this has been like this long before the upgrade: aptitude search ^x|grep ^i i A xscreensaver-data - data files to be shared among screensaver i A xserver-common - common files used by various X servers i xserver-xorg- X.Org X server i A xserver-xorg-core - Xorg X server - core server i A xserver-xorg-input-all - X.Org X server -- input driver metapackage i A xserver-xorg-input-evdev- X.Org X server -- evdev input driver i A xserver-xorg-input-mouse- X.Org X server -- mouse input driver i A xserver-xorg-input-synaptics- Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server i A xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse - X.Org X server -- VMMouse input driver to i A xserver-xorg-input-wacom- X.Org X server -- Wacom input driver i A xserver-xorg-video-apm - X.Org X server -- APM display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-ark - X.Org X server -- ark display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-ati - X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI display driver w i A xserver-xorg-video-chips- X.Org X server -- Chips display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-cirrus - X.Org X server -- Cirrus display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-fbdev- X.Org X server -- fbdev display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-geode- X.Org X server -- Geode GX2/LX display dri i A xserver-xorg-video-i128 - X.Org X server -- i128 display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-i740 - X.Org X server -- i740 display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-intel- X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display i A xserver-xorg-video-mach64 - X.Org X server -- ATI Mach64 display drive i A xserver-xorg-video-mga - X.Org X server -- MGA display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-neomagic - X.Org X server -- Neomagic display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-openchrome - X.Org X server -- VIA display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-r128 - X.Org X server -- ATI r128 display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-radeon - X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI Radeon display d i A xserver-xorg-video-rendition- X.Org X server -- Rendition display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-s3 - X.Org X server -- legacy S3 display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-s3virge - X.Org X server -- S3 ViRGE display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-savage - X.Org X server -- Savage display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotio - X.Org X server -- SiliconMotion display dr i A xserver-xorg-video-sis - X.Org X server -- SiS display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-sisusb - X.Org X server -- SiS USB display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-tdfx - X.Org X server -- tdfx display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-trident - X.Org X server -- Trident display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-tseng- X.Org X server -- Tseng display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-vesa - X.Org X server -- VESA display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-vmware - X.Org X server -- VMware display driver i A xserver-xorg-video-voodoo - X.Org X server -- Voodoo display driver -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87y57yic3k@newsguy.com
A strange new phenomena
I've been seeing something entirely new and unexpected during boot up lately. Every few boots, something happens that prevents me logging in. I boot to console out of long habit, using startx when I want X, so with this peculiar phenomena I can't login to console. It appears to be something along the line of a screensaver window that has taken over the console. It appears to be a mashup of the grub screen (light blue with white scroll). and made into tiles mashed together haphazardly. That, at least, describes the upper portion of the screen. Maybe around 75%. The bottom portion is a bunch of horizontal bars squeezed together and in various thicknesses... none more that 1/4 inch and most closer to 1/16. These seem to be a mixture of blue white and black. Anyone who has seen one of the Xscreensavers that take parts of the display and make a mashup will have an idea what I'm trying to describe here. On occasion this oddness doesn't consume the whole screen and my boot messages still appear on some small piece of the screen and I can still login from that small piece. Once logged in it all disappears. But on those occasions when the screensaver thingie takes the whole screen I cannot log in at all. I've resorted to ssh in and try to kill whatever is making the blotto looking screen, but haven't been able to figure out what it is. going thru ps wwaux output with less, but I'm not seeing what it might be. Finally I just either reboot from ssh or hard reboot until I get a normal looking boot up. Or at least one that allows me to login. That usually happen in one try but sometimes it takes several. I'm not sure this new phenomena followed a major upgrade from wheezy to 'testing' because I had a higher than usual uptime somewhere around the same time I did a major upgrade. I think it is probably related though. I hope this post doesn't sound completely insane because I really do see it even without the drugs... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87pptc6i5q@newsguy.com
Re: A strange new phenomena
On 8/18/13, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I've been seeing something entirely new and unexpected during boot up lately. Every few boots, something happens that prevents me logging in. .. It appears to be a mashup of the grub screen (light blue with white scroll). and made into tiles mashed together haphazardly. That, at least, describes the upper portion of the screen. Maybe around 75%. Sounds like a display driver issue. ISTR getting this same problem many years ago. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caosgnsqdmdl88jysd1msbijpkllrs9iq3c879g2bl1xjlkv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: A strange new phenomena
Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net writes: On 8/18/13, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I've been seeing something entirely new and unexpected during boot up lately. Every few boots, something happens that prevents me logging in. .. It appears to be a mashup of the grub screen (light blue with white scroll). and made into tiles mashed together haphazardly. That, at least, describes the upper portion of the screen. Maybe around 75%. Sounds like a display driver issue. ISTR getting this same problem many years ago. I guess if you had a glimmer of memory about how you went about tracking it down... you would have said so eh? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ioz37hme@newsguy.com
Re: A strange new phenomena
On 8/18/13, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net writes: On 8/18/13, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I've been seeing something entirely new and unexpected during boot up lately. Every few boots, something happens that prevents me logging in. .. It appears to be a mashup of the grub screen (light blue with white scroll). and made into tiles mashed together haphazardly. That, at least, describes the upper portion of the screen. Maybe around 75%. Sounds like a display driver issue. ISTR getting this same problem many years ago. I guess if you had a glimmer of memory about how you went about tracking it down... you would have said so eh? Yes. The only sliver was upgrade to sid, or the latest xorg-driver you can lay hands on. The fact that it happens before startx is run, is perhaps due to some of the graphics driver stack now being in the Linux kernel. Good luck again Zenaan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caosgnsry+vbexvsj54h1bnorjc0zmdtj8g858mc-ebrcsgy...@mail.gmail.com
