Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:57:19 -0500, David Z Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: John Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or, if you want to get X out of the way, edit /etc/inittab , look for the lines : # The default runlevel. id:2:initdefault: and replace the runlevel 2 with 1. ...which will also conveniently stop your Web server, your ssh server, your power-management daemon, your print system, multiple console logins, and so on. Far less brutal to just remove the /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm link. ..I just use one of the vacant runlevels and customize that, in RH et al runlevel 4, Debian has 3,4 and 5 free. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
John Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or, if you want to get X out of the way, edit /etc/inittab , look for the lines : # The default runlevel. id:2:initdefault: and replace the runlevel 2 with 1. ...which will also conveniently stop your Web server, your ssh server, your power-management daemon, your print system, multiple console logins, and so on. Far less brutal to just remove the /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm link. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
On November 21, 2003 at 8:13AM +0800, Dan Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is that the usual way to get rid of X windows if in case one wants just to use the humble console? I know there is a startx program, but no stopx. Preston CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server. Indeed it does, with no questions asked. But then it just springs back to life again, with a login prompt (at least with xdm here). Let's pretend my monitor is being borrowed for a few days and being replaced by a VT100, and I want to properly end all X processes and revert to plain tty mode, without rebooting or editing any files. The stop xdm. At least with gdm, I can do /etc/init.d gdm stop. Doesn't xdm have a file in /etc/init.d? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
Sridhar M.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you want to temporarily disable booting to xdm on your VT100 and revert to xdm once you get back the monitor, just disable the xdm startup from all levels. # update-rc.d -f xdm remove After you get back the monitor, # update-rc.d xdm defaults Neither of these are the right answer. (a) will cause the /etc/rc?.d links to be put back into place if the package gets upgraded; (b) will put the links back, but at the wrong priority, so xdm would get started before things like cron. Not a huge deal, but it's probably easier to leave one runlevel (say, 5) in the pristine state; delete /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm if you don't want xdm to start, and then use 'ln -s' to make a link identical to what's in /etc/rc5.d if you want to bring it back. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 19:13, Dan Jacobson wrote: [...] Let's pretend my monitor is being borrowed for a few days and being replaced by a VT100, and I want to properly end all X processes and revert to plain tty mode, without rebooting or editing any files. Well, if you _really_ mean you're getting a vt100, you will need to set up getty on your serial port ;-) And X will never (AFAIK) even attempt to display over a serial connection. (yes, I know what you actually meant) -- Mark Roach -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 12:00:32PM -0500, David Z Maze wrote:
Sridhar M.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you want to temporarily disable booting to xdm on your VT100 and
revert to xdm once you get back the monitor, just disable the xdm
startup from all levels.
# update-rc.d -f xdm remove
After you get back the monitor,
# update-rc.d xdm defaults
Neither of these are the right answer. (a) will cause the /etc/rc?.d
links to be put back into place if the package gets upgraded; (b) will
put the links back, but at the wrong priority, so xdm would get
started before things like cron. Not a huge deal, but it's probably
easier to leave one runlevel (say, 5) in the pristine state; delete
/etc/rc2.d/S99xdm if you don't want xdm to start, and then use 'ln -s'
to make a link identical to what's in /etc/rc5.d if you want to bring
it back.
I have written a bash script to remove/restore any file entry
in '/etc/init.d',
including ALL links and save them
to '/etc/init.d/SAVE/' as file.tar.gz.
e.g. init.d -s xdm
saves /etc/init.d/xdm and ALL links referring to xdm
to /etc/init.d/SAVE/xdm.tar.gz
init.d -r xdm will restore xdm and ALL links to place
The advantage: any change made to xdm or to any link adjustment will
be saved and, if needed, later restored to its original state.
One can easily test the system's reaction to removing a file, and, if
problems show up, restore the file.
Here is this script: (on my system stored in '/usr/local/sh')
-
#!/bin/sh
# \wwf 9.3.02
USE () {
echo
echo
echo Save+Remove // Restore Start_Stop Files in /etc/init.d/
echo
setterm -bold on
echo 'including related Links in /etc/rc?.d/'
setterm -bold off
echo
echo
echo usage:
echo
echo $0 [{-s|-r}] fname ...(-s = default)
echo
echo '( put Filename Wildcards in Double-Quotes: *, ? )'
echo
echo
echo 'Options:'
echo ''
echo '-s = (S)avefiles to /etc/init.d/SAVE/file.tar.gz'
echo '-r = (R)estore files from /etc/init.d/SAVE/file.tar.gz'
echo
echo '(-s: Files are MOVED from Directories to Archive)'
echo '(-r: Files are MOVED from Archive to Directories)'
echo
echo
}
Save () {
test -d /etc/init.d/SAVE || mkdir /etc/init.d/SAVE
echo Save+Deinstall init.d Files to /etc/init.d/SAVE/file.tar.gz
echo =
cd /etc/init.d
for FILE in [EMAIL PROTECTED]; do
echo
# Skip bad Params
if [ ! -f ${FILE} ]; then
echo /etc/init.d/${FILE}: NO FILE -- skipping Param
echo --
echo
continue ## comment this line: save links only
# ## when /etc/init.d/file is missing
fi
if [ -f SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz ]; then
echo Dest_Archive already exists:
echo NO REwriting to /etc/SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz -- skipping Param
echo --
echo
continue
fi
# Begin of Job
echo -n Save+Deinstall /etc/init.d/${FILE} ? ; read answ
case $answ in
y*|Y*|j*|J*) echo Answer = ${answ};; # Save Files
* ) echo Answer = ${answ}:NO Action -- skipping Param
echo
continue
esac
echo
echo Saving spec''d Files to /etc/init.d/SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz
echo -
find /etc/rc* /etc/init.d -name *${FILE} | \
tar -cvzf /etc/init.d/SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz -PT -
echo
echo Comparing Tar Archive to orig. Source Files
echo ---
tar -dvzf /etc/init.d/SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz
if [ `echo $?` = 0 ]; then
echo
echo ==
echo All Files saved OK
echo ==
echo
echo -n Remove saved Source Files now ? ; read answ
case $answ in
y*|Y*|j*|J*) echo Answer = ${answ};; # Remove Files
* ) echo Answer = ${answ}: Files NOT removed
iecho
continue
esac
echo
echo Removing saved Files from /etc/rc*/ /etc/init.a/
find /etc/rc* /etc/init.d -name *${FILE} -exec rm {} \;
else
echo
echo ERROR, BAD Match!!
echo ==
echo /etc/init.d/SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz differs to
echo Source Files in /etc/rc*/, /etc/init.d/
echo NO File removed
echo
fi
done
}
Restore () {
echo Reinstall Files from /etc/init.d/SAVE/file.tar.gz
echo ---
cd /etc/init.d/SAVE/
for
Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
Wilko Fokken wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 12:00:32PM -0500, David Z Maze wrote: Sridhar M.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you want to temporarily disable booting to xdm on your VT100 and revert to xdm once you get back the monitor, just disable the xdm startup from all levels. # update-rc.d -f xdm remove After you get back the monitor, # update-rc.d xdm defaults Neither of these are the right answer. (a) will cause the /etc/rc?.d links to be put back into place if the package gets upgraded; (b) will put the links back, but at the wrong priority, so xdm would get started before things like cron. Not a huge deal, but it's probably easier to leave one runlevel (say, 5) in the pristine state; delete /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm if you don't want xdm to start, and then use 'ln -s' to make a link identical to what's in /etc/rc5.d if you want to bring it back. I have written a bash script to remove/restore any file entry in '/etc/init.d', including ALL links and save them to '/etc/init.d/SAVE/' as file.tar.gz. snip If there's a startup script I want to temporarily disable, I just put the line exit 0 as the first executable line in the script. Easy to do; easy to undo. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
Travis Crump wrote: Dan Jacobson wrote: is that the usual way to get rid of X windows if in case one wants just to use the humble console? I know there is a startx program, but no stopx. Preston CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server. Indeed it does, with no questions asked. But then it just springs back to life again, with a login prompt (at least with xdm here). Let's pretend my monitor is being borrowed for a few days and being replaced by a VT100, and I want to properly end all X processes and revert to plain tty mode, without rebooting or editing any files. #/etc/init.d/xdm stop Probably best done when the display manager is in the login screen state, but works anytime... Or, if you want to get X out of the way, edit /etc/inittab , look for the lines : # The default runlevel. id:2:initdefault: and replace the runlevel 2 with 1. John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 08:13:08AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: But then it just springs back to life again, with a login prompt (at least with xdm here). Let's pretend my monitor is being borrowed for a few days and being replaced by a VT100, and I want to properly end all X processes and revert to plain tty mode, without rebooting or editing any files. If you want to temporarily disable booting to xdm on your VT100 and revert to xdm once you get back the monitor, just disable the xdm startup from all levels. # update-rc.d -f xdm remove After you get back the monitor, # update-rc.d xdm defaults Regards, -- Sridhar M.A.GPG KeyID : F0225B2C Fingerprint: F7CC 61A8 C6C1 D29C 2863 4E20 8A78 A19D F022 I always pass on good advice. It is the only thing to do with it. It is never any good to oneself. -- Oscar Wilde, An Ideal Husband pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
From: Dan Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Preston CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server. Indeed it does, with no questions asked. A question I asked before, for for which I never received an answer: Is this a dirty shutdown of X and so to be avoided, or is it a proper shutdown, whatever that means? Haines Brown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
Haines Brown wrote: From: Dan Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Preston CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server. Indeed it does, with no questions asked. A question I asked before, for for which I never received an answer: Is this a dirty shutdown of X and so to be avoided, or is it a proper shutdown, whatever that means? Dirty. If a process has a file open, that file might get corrupted, or a temp file might not get erased, etc. If you don't have any apps running other than your window manager/desktop environment, usually nothing will get hurt. For a clean shutdown: Log out of X; then if a login manager (xdm, gdm, wdm, kdm) is still running, you can stop it by switching to a console (Ctrl-Alft-F1 should work in most cases) and then as root run /etc/init.d/[xgwk]dm stop (use the letter that corresponds to the login manager that you're running. -- Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
is that the usual way to get rid of X windows if in case one wants just to use the humble console? I know there is a startx program, but no stopx. Preston CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server. Indeed it does, with no questions asked. But then it just springs back to life again, with a login prompt (at least with xdm here). Let's pretend my monitor is being borrowed for a few days and being replaced by a VT100, and I want to properly end all X processes and revert to plain tty mode, without rebooting or editing any files. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 08:13:08AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: But then it just springs back to life again, with a login prompt (at least with xdm here). Let's pretend my monitor is being borrowed for a few days and being replaced by a VT100, and I want to properly end all X processes and revert to plain tty mode, without rebooting or editing any files. You can stop xdm with /etc/init.d/xdm stop Cheers, Pasc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
Dan Jacobson wrote: is that the usual way to get rid of X windows if in case one wants just to use the humble console? I know there is a startx program, but no stopx. Preston CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server. Indeed it does, with no questions asked. But then it just springs back to life again, with a login prompt (at least with xdm here). Let's pretend my monitor is being borrowed for a few days and being replaced by a VT100, and I want to properly end all X processes and revert to plain tty mode, without rebooting or editing any files. #/etc/init.d/xdm stop Probably best done when the display manager is in the login screen state, but works anytime... pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
