Re: Convert FAT32 to FAT16 with windows 98
On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to mix FAT32/FAT16/Linux partitions on a single hard drive? You can't convert drives of less than 256 Megabytes to FAT32, so if your hard drive is partitioned with 256 Mb logical or primary partitions, Windows's FDISK will presumably not convert them automtically when you tell it you'd like large disk support. More practically, ignore FDISK and convert the partitions that you want to go to FAT32 individually. It's not a lengthy process. I want to do this because my 99.9%-full 1.2GB FAT16 partition expanded to 1.6GB when I copied it to a 2GB FAT16 partition(due to a larger cluster size, I guess), but took only 800MB on a FAT32 partition. Hmmm. Your 1.2 and 2.0 partitions would have the same size cluster size -- 32 Kilobytes. FAT32 brings that down to 4 Kb per cluster, which explains your size reduction. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Shupp California State University, Northridge Graduate Student, Dept. of Anthropology http://www.csun.edu/~ms44278/index.htm
Re: Convert FAT32 to FAT16 with windows 98.
On Sun, 28 Mar 1999 22:48:21 -0800, you wrote: One responder asked why would you not want to leave it fat32. My experience is that lilo will not work on the mbr of a fat32 drive, huh??? Then I must be hallucinating right now. LILO do work with mbr of hdd with fat32 partition.
Re: Convert FAT32 to FAT16 with windows 98
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FAT32 does not appear to be just a new partition type, which can coexist with FAT16 Linux partitions. Both utilities I tried (Win95 FDISK Maxtor Maxblast) required either all FAT32 or no FAT32, and Linux FDISK was then unable to add any Linux/FAT16 partitions, once there was a FAT32 partition. A comment in the PartitionMagic blurb (www.powerquest.com/press/pm4ships.html) also seems to indicate that FAT32 takes over the entire hard drive: For those consumers who find themselves with a FAT32 partition when they buy a new drive, PartitionMagic can convert FAT32 partitions to FAT16 partitions so that users can continue to use other operating systems and utilities. Does anyone know how to mix FAT32/FAT16/Linux partitions on a single hard drive? I want to do this because my 99.9%-full 1.2GB FAT16 partition expanded to 1.6GB when I copied it to a 2GB FAT16 partition(due to a larger cluster size, I guess), but took only 800MB on a FAT32 partition. I have used PartitionMagic to mix fat16/fat32 partitions on the same drive on two different computers - one with a WD ide and the other with a Quantum ide. I had no problems what so ever. For example one with four partitions was formatted like this: /dev/hda1 linux swap /dev/hda2 ext2 (Linux /) /dev/hda3 fat32 (windows c:) /dev/hda4 fat16 (mounted as d: in windows, and /dosd in Linux) -- Ben Messinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux user.
Re: Convert FAT32 to FAT16 with windows 98.
Will Lowe wrote: yes i have only windows 98 installed on my computer. I was wondering if there was any way that i could convert FAT 32 back into FAT16 without reinstalling windows. I don't think so. Why would you want to? Will NT dos not see FAT32 for one. But unfortunatly you can't convert from FAT32 to FAT16. Shanta
Re: Convert FAT32 to FAT16 with windows 98.
Nick Rudd wrote: yes i have only windows 98 installed on my computer. I was wondering if there was any way that i could convert FAT 32 back into FAT16 without reinstalling windows. Yeah there is a way. There may be others, but this way is the only way I know - and doesn't require purchasing any proprietary software :-) I am sorry if I have made any errors - dont blame me, it is late, I am tired. It is possible to do this, though noone seems to have bothered to tell him / thought of it. This requires you to be using ~80 MB (the size of a basic linux distro) less than one half of your hard disk (ie have 1/2 your harddisk+80Mb free ). Also you will need some extra space, because FAT32 is more efficient than FAT16 - the exact amount depends on the size of your harddisk, and the specific files on your harddrive. Use fips from dos to reduce your win98 to the smallest size possible. Then, you need to install linux into the ~80MB on your hard disk. (I would suggest creating partitions at the end of the free space not the beginning - if you can use partition manager to mess around with them later this could make it easier to resize them) in the spare disk space on your harddrive, create a new DOS partition (be sure only to create a fat16 partition :-) ) format this new partition under linux. mount your new and old DOS partitions under linux, and with a cp -av old-dos-partition-mount-point/* new-dos-partition-mount-point you will be able to copy all of your windows files from the Fat32 partion to the new fat16 partition. [BTW all of this is without a reboot :-)] Now you need to set the new partition active with fdisk or cfdisk or sthg, then boot of a DOS floppy to make the new partition bootable??? then if you reboot, you should come up under windows on your new, FAT16 partition. when you are sure that everything is working correctly, you can delete your old FAT32 partition, and reinstall linux on that partition, and you will be able to install X-windows etc and see how your computer should really work. Of course it would probably be quicker to back up your entire hard disk onto floppy, by hand, then reformat your harddrive [or even spend some money on some mass storage device and back it up onto that] but you asked. frankie Always glad to be of help :-) -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Convert FAT32 to FAT16 with windows 98.
NT dos not see FAT32 for one. But unfortunatly you can't convert from FAT32 to FAT16. ;bog microsoft not reading their own filesystem ... Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- | You think you're so smart, but I've seen you naked | | and I'll prob'ly see you naked again ... | | --The Barenaked Ladies, Blame It On Me | --
Re: Convert FAT32 to FAT16 with windows 98.
Nick Rudd wrote: yes i have only windows 98 installed on my computer. I was wondering if there was any way that i could convert FAT 32 back into FAT16 without reinstalling windows. Chris Smith Partition Magic will convert from fat16 to fat32 or vice-versa. It does it with a gui and is quite easy and in my experience safe. I have converted a partition to fat32 and then back to fat16 at a later date with no problems. One responder asked why would you not want to leave it fat32. My experience is that lilo will not work on the mbr of a fat32 drive, and also a fat32 drive is slower than the same drive with fat16. But that doesn't really matter to me anymore - now _all_ my partitions are ext2 g. -- Ben Messinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux user.
Re: Convert FAT32 to FAT16 with windows 98.
On 29-Mar-99 Will Lowe wrote: NT dos not see FAT32 for one. But unfortunatly you can't convert from FAT32 to FAT16. ;bog microsoft not reading their own filesystem ... Will i got a fat32 driver for nt... but it's not a freeware. Benoit
Re: Convert FAT32 to FAT16 with windows 98.
On 29-Mar-99 Ben Messinger wrote: Nick Rudd wrote: yes i have only windows 98 installed on my computer. I was wondering if there was any way that i could convert FAT 32 back into FAT16 without reinstalling windows. Chris Smith Partition Magic will convert from fat16 to fat32 or vice-versa. It does it with a gui and is quite easy and in my experience safe. I have converted a partition to fat32 and then back to fat16 at a later date with no problems. One responder asked why would you not want to leave it fat32. My experience is that lilo will not work on the mbr of a fat32 drive, and also a fat32 drive is slower than the same drive with fat16. But that doesn't really matter to me anymore - now _all_ my partitions are ext2 g. Lilo work well with fat32 because he dont need to handle the fat32 partition and because linux is installed on a ext2. fat32 dont change the mbr, just the partition table and the fat of the partition. I use this setup from osr2 (win95). Benoit Joly
Re: Convert FAT32 to FAT16 with windows 98
FAT32 does not appear to be just a new partition type, which can coexist with FAT16 Linux partitions. Both utilities I tried (Win95 FDISK Maxtor Maxblast) required either all FAT32 or no FAT32, and Linux FDISK was then unable to add any Linux/FAT16 partitions, once there was a FAT32 partition. A comment in the PartitionMagic blurb (www.powerquest.com/press/pm4ships.html) also seems to indicate that FAT32 takes over the entire hard drive: For those consumers who find themselves with a FAT32 partition when they buy a new drive, PartitionMagic can convert FAT32 partitions to FAT16 partitions so that users can continue to use other operating systems and utilities. Does anyone know how to mix FAT32/FAT16/Linux partitions on a single hard drive? I want to do this because my 99.9%-full 1.2GB FAT16 partition expanded to 1.6GB when I copied it to a 2GB FAT16 partition(due to a larger cluster size, I guess), but took only 800MB on a FAT32 partition. On 29-Mar-99 Ben Messinger wrote: Nick Rudd wrote: yes i have only windows 98 installed on my computer. I was wondering if there was any way that i could convert FAT 32 back into FAT16 without reinstalling windows. Chris Smith Partition Magic will convert from fat16 to fat32 or vice-versa. It does it with a gui and is quite easy and in my experience safe. I have converted a partition to fat32 and then back to fat16 at a later date with no problems. One responder asked why would you not want to leave it fat32. My experience is that lilo will not work on the mbr of a fat32 drive, and also a fat32 drive is slower than the same drive with fat16. But that doesn't really matter to me anymore - now _all_ my partitions are ext2 g. Lilo work well with fat32 because he dont need to handle the fat32 partition and because linux is installed on a ext2. fat32 dont change the mbr, just the partition table and the fat of the partition. I use this setup from osr2 (win95). Benoit Joly
Convert FAT32 to FAT16 with windows 98.
yes i have only windows 98 installed on my computer. I was wondering if there was any way that i could convert FAT 32 back into FAT16 without reinstalling windows. Chris Smith
Re: Convert FAT32 to FAT16 with windows 98.
yes i have only windows 98 installed on my computer. I was wondering if there was any way that i could convert FAT 32 back into FAT16 without reinstalling windows. I don't think so. Why would you want to? Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- | You think you're so smart, but I've seen you naked | | and I'll prob'ly see you naked again ... | | --The Barenaked Ladies, Blame It On Me | --
Re: Convert FAT32 to FAT16 with windows 98.
Nick Rudd wrote: yes i have only windows 98 installed on my computer. I was wondering if there was any way that i could convert FAT 32 back into FAT16 without reinstalling windows. Chris Smith To my knowledge, No. But maybe some utility (like Partition Magic or Norton Utilities?) may do it. If not, it's not simply a matter of reinstalling Windows. You'll have to reformat the drive and reinstall everything. You can send a Thank You card to Bill Gates later. :(
