Re: Easy to use Mail Spam/ Content Filter?

2004-06-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Paul Johnson wrote:
 I don't understand where you get the impression that I expect
 everybody to spend every waking moment reporting spam.  It's really
 not that hard, spamcop.net speeds it up.  If you're a paying member,
 you even have access to quick reporting, which is practically
 fire-and-forget.  I don't have time isn't an excuse anymore.

 Simple math, really.  Several thousand spam a day times a minute
 or two to report each one means no time left for anything else even
 at peak effciency.

Get spamcop's automatic reporting.  Forward all your spam in one big
email as attachments to the reporting address.  Change subject to
reply anyway.  You'll get a message letting you know how it went.

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Re: Easy to use Mail Spam/ Content Filter?

2004-06-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote:
 Get spamcop's automatic reporting.  Forward all your spam in one big
 email as attachments to the reporting address.  Change subject to
 reply anyway.  You'll get a message letting you know how it went.

Now Paul.  You know as well as I do that you're not supposed to CC unless
requested.  Should I report that as spam?  It certainly was unsolicited.

Secondly to forward all my spam to spamcop I would have to *TURN OFF* my
spam filtering as it is at the SMTP level.

Third I am not kidding when I mean I go through thousands of spam a day.
No, Paul, not happening.  Get off your high ass aspiring to be a nag.

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Re: Easy to use Mail Spam/ Content Filter?

2004-05-31 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Paul Johnson wrote:
 Just hitting delete is considered harmful with spam (you should be
 reporting it).

 We've gone over this, Paul.  So far you have not volunteered to report
 spam for the rest of us since you feel that we're just as bad as spammers for
 not spending our every waking hour reporting spam.

I don't understand where you get the impression that I expect
everybody to spend every waking moment reporting spam.  It's really
not that hard, spamcop.net speeds it up.  If you're a paying member,
you even have access to quick reporting, which is practically
fire-and-forget.  I don't have time isn't an excuse anymore.

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Re: Easy to use Mail Spam/ Content Filter?

2004-05-31 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote:
 I don't understand where you get the impression that I expect
 everybody to spend every waking moment reporting spam.  It's really
 not that hard, spamcop.net speeds it up.  If you're a paying member,
 you even have access to quick reporting, which is practically
 fire-and-forget.  I don't have time isn't an excuse anymore.

Simple math, really.  Several thousand spam a day times a minute or two to
report each one means no time left for anything else even at peak effciency.

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Re: Easy to use Mail Spam/ Content Filter?

2004-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Easy?  Delete key.

Just hitting delete is considered harmful with spam (you should be
reporting it).

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Re: Easy to use Mail Spam/ Content Filter?

2004-05-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote:
 Just hitting delete is considered harmful with spam (you should be
 reporting it).

We've gone over this, Paul.  So far you have not volunteered to report
spam for the rest of us since you feel that we're just as bad as spammers for
not spending our every waking hour reporting spam.

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Re: Easy to use Mail Spam/ Content Filter?

2004-05-18 Thread Stefan Drees
Osamu Aoki wrote:
After reading recent flame-fest at d-devel, I found crm114 and dspam
seemed interesting.
crm114 is very light and already packaged.  I like HOWTO at
 http://triplehelix.org/~joshk/CRM114.html
Also check original home page crm114.sourceforge.net
This is supercharged auto-learn grep and very simple design.
Within a day of learning, I get very good filtering.  I dropped almost
all procmail recipe filtering junks.
I was quite impressed it works with mixed Japanese/English environment.
This is by far the excellent filter you can teach without programming.
For DSPAM which uses database as backend.  Too fancy for me but its web
page is very informative.
 www.nuclearelephant.com/projects/dspam/
This has web server support and alternative web support is
provided by php backend, http://www.michaelthompson.org/dspam/
 

Thanks, i will try CRM114 and DSPAM, seems to be what i need. Thanks.
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Re: Easy to use Mail Spam/ Content Filter?

2004-05-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 06:58:17PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
 on Sun, May 16, 2004 at 12:29:39PM +0200, Stefan Drees ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  i?m searching for an easy to configure mail spam/ content filter, 
  configurable over an web frontend.
[...]
 Easy?  Delete key.
 
 Powerful?  procmail.  Or the Perl-based tool whose name I can never
 remember.  Mailmumble.

maildrop, I'm guessing.

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Re: [toread] Re: Easy to use Mail Spam/ Content Filter?

2004-05-17 Thread Richard Scott
  
  Powerful?  procmail.  Or the Perl-based tool whose name I can never
  remember.  Mailmumble.
 
 maildrop, I'm guessing.
 

popfile I use, seems pretty good


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Re: Easy to use Mail Spam/ Content Filter?

2004-05-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:57:33PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
 On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 06:58:17PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
  on Sun, May 16, 2004 at 12:29:39PM +0200, Stefan Drees ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   i?m searching for an easy to configure mail spam/ content filter, 
   configurable over an web frontend.
 [...]
  Easy?  Delete key.
  
  Powerful?  procmail.  Or the Perl-based tool whose name I can never
  remember.  Mailmumble.
 
 maildrop, I'm guessing.

After reading recent flame-fest at d-devel, I found crm114 and dspam
seemed interesting.

crm114 is very light and already packaged.  I like HOWTO at

  http://triplehelix.org/~joshk/CRM114.html

Also check original home page crm114.sourceforge.net

This is supercharged auto-learn grep and very simple design.

Within a day of learning, I get very good filtering.  I dropped almost
all procmail recipe filtering junks.

I was quite impressed it works with mixed Japanese/English environment.

This is by far the excellent filter you can teach without programming.

For DSPAM which uses database as backend.  Too fancy for me but its web
page is very informative.
  www.nuclearelephant.com/projects/dspam/

This has web server support and alternative web support is
provided by php backend, http://www.michaelthompson.org/dspam/


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Easy to use Mail Spam/ Content Filter?

2004-05-16 Thread Stefan Drees
Hi,
i´m searching for an easy to configure mail spam/ content filter, 
configurable over an web frontend.
I know about amavis/ spamassassin but i din´t found an easy to use/ 
understand web frontend.
Commercial products are also ok. Till know i´m using only amavis to scan 
for viruses, but my boss
wants to keep also spam away and because of that i´m not the only one 
using it, it must be easy as possible:-).

Hope you can give me some hints.
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Re: Easy to use Mail Spam/ Content Filter?

2004-05-16 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, May 16, 2004 at 12:29:39PM +0200, Stefan Drees ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Hi,
 i?m searching for an easy to configure mail spam/ content filter, 
 configurable over an web frontend.

 I know about amavis/ spamassassin but i din?t found an easy to use/ 
 understand web frontend.

 Commercial products are also ok. Till know i?m using only amavis to scan 
 for viruses, but my boss wants to keep also spam away and because of
 that i?m not the only one using it, it must be easy as possible:-).
 
 Hope you can give me some hints.

Please insert *two* carriage returns between paragraphs and standardize
your linelengths.  Helps readability extensively.

Easy?  Delete key.

Powerful?  procmail.  Or the Perl-based tool whose name I can never
remember.  Mailmumble.


If your goal is automated mail filtering, there are tools you can set up
on your server to do this, or whole-hog solutions.  Outsourcing this is
probably the easiest solution.  Costs typically $4-10/mo per account.


Peace.

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