Re: Emacs and ALT Key in New Debian Installation

2002-10-03 Thread Pat Colbeck

Meta is mapped to the Windows key (the one with a MS flying windows
logo on it by default in Woody running X-Windows. I suppose irt stops
issue where the Alt key is used for Window Cylcing (Alt TAB).

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 05:58:48AM -0700, Mark Seven Smith wrote:
 
 Any ideas on why my ALT key doesn't work?  Thanks in advance,
 

Pat


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Emacs and ALT Key in New Debian Installation

2002-10-02 Thread Mark Seven Smith

I recently installed Debian (Woody 3.0), and I have Emacs 21.  I have found that
the ALT key does not work.  When I go to use M-X as a prefix, or when I need to
use the ALT key for any command, all I get is a beep, and nothing else happens.

The ALT key works as a META key just fine when working from a real console
(without X).  It is only in X that it doesn't work.  This is irritating, because
for instance, when scrolling backwards, I have to keep hitting ESC V, instead of
holding down the ALT key and hitting V.

Any ideas on why my ALT key doesn't work?  Thanks in advance,

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Re: Emacs and ALT Key in New Debian Installation

2002-10-02 Thread Elizabeth Barham

Mark Seven Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I recently installed Debian (Woody 3.0), and I have Emacs 21.  I
 have found that the ALT key does not work.  When I go to use M-X as
 a prefix, or when I need to use the ALT key for any command, all I
 get is a beep, and nothing else happens.
 
 The ALT key works as a META key just fine when working from a real
 console (without X).  It is only in X that it doesn't work.  This is
 irritating, because for instance, when scrolling backwards, I have
 to keep hitting ESC V, instead of holding down the ALT key and
 hitting V.
 
 Any ideas on why my ALT key doesn't work?

I seem to recall something like this.

Does the left Alt key work and not the right Alt key? Is it possible
that the Window keys work in place of the Alt key?

You may want to look at the configuration for the x keymap in
/etc/X11/xkb, such as /etc/X11/xkb/keycodes/xfree86 and also in
/etc/X11/xkb/symbols/alt.

Elizabeth


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Re: Emacs and ALT Key in New Debian Installation

2002-10-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On Wednesday 02 October 2002 07:31, Elizabeth Barham wrote:

 Does the left Alt key work and not the right Alt key? Is it possible
 that the Window keys work in place of the Alt key?

 You may want to look at the configuration for the x keymap in
 /etc/X11/xkb, such as /etc/X11/xkb/keycodes/xfree86 and also in
 /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/alt.

 Elizabeth

indeed.  On my machine the windows key functions as meta and alt is alt.  I 
just wish that the person who maintains the console tools would make a 
similar change so meta is always meta and alt was always alt.


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Re: Emacs and ALT Key in New Debian Installation

2002-10-02 Thread Bob Proulx

Mark Seven Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-02 05:58:48 -0700]:
 I recently installed Debian (Woody 3.0), and I have Emacs 21.  I have found 
 that
 the ALT key does not work.  When I go to use M-X as a prefix, or when I 
 need to
 use the ALT key for any command, all I get is a beep, and nothing else 
 happens.

I found that too.  I found that if I installed using the PC104
keyboard instead of the PC102 keyboard that ALT was no longer a meta
key.  But the Windows key was the meta key!  Apparently someone
thought they would use that extra key as a meta key and moved it off
of the ALT key.  The bad thing I see is that selecting PC102 or PC104
actually causes different keys to be mapped as the meta key.

Does the Windows key work as a meta key for you?

Bob



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Re: Emacs and ALT Key in New Debian Installation

2002-10-02 Thread Michael Heironimus

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 08:35:22PM -0700, Mark Seven Smith wrote:
 What is good about this?  Does it give one increased functionality?  For 
 instance, does emacs have a use for an ALT key?

emacs can map both alt and meta keystrokes. It can probably map super
and hyper, too, but I've never tried. On a PC I remap all the windows
keys in X. I also map either print screen or scroll lock to Compose
Character, since both are pretty much useless in X.

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