Re: Firewall program for Debian?

2001-08-22 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 05:11:32PM -0400, dman wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 01:48:11PM -0700, Brandon High wrote:
 | On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:58:57PM -0400, Han Yoo wrote:
 | 
 |  Basically, I have the 2.2.19 kernel.
 |  Is any of the programs that you mentined easy enough to be utilized by a
 |  Debian novice without going into the heavy-duty configuration?
 | 
 | 2.2.x uses IP-chains for its packet filter. This will allow you to block
 | certain ports and provide IP masquerade functions, but won't give you the
 | alerting provided by ZoneAlarm. You'll need to install an IDS (intrusion
 | detection system) as well.
 
 ipchains and iptables have a logging facility so you can log packets
 if you want to.  It is still up to you to actually read the logs
 though.
 
 | I can't recommend one offhand, but you may want to ask on debian-security.
 
 tripwire is one I've heard mentioned here before.
 
Tripwire is not a firewall..rather it warns you about unexpected
file permission changes etc. 
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Tripwire is a file integrity checker - a utility that com-
   pares a designated set of files  and  directories  against
   information  stored  in  a  previously generated database.
   Added or deleted files are flagged and  reported,  as  are
   any files that have changed from their previously recorded
   state in the database.  When run against system files on a
   regular  basis,  any  file  changes  would be spotted when
   Tripwire is next run, giving system administrators  infor-
   mation to enact damage control measures immediately.
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Cliff
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Re: Firewall program for Debian?

2001-08-22 Thread Sam Varghese
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:58:57PM -0400, Han Yoo wrote:
 
 Basically, I have the 2.2.19 kernel.
 Is any of the programs that you mentined easy enough to be utilized by a 
 Debian
 novice without going into the heavy-duty configuration?
 

there is something called pmfirewall. 
http://www.pointman.org/PMFirewall/

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Re: Firewall program for Debian?

2001-08-22 Thread Oleksandr Moskalenko
* Sam Varghese ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:58:57PM -0400, Han Yoo wrote:
  
  Basically, I have the 2.2.19 kernel.
  Is any of the programs that you mentined easy enough to be utilized by a 
  Debian
  novice without going into the heavy-duty configuration?
  
 
 there is something called pmfirewall. 
 http://www.pointman.org/PMFirewall/
 
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  Also there is rcf firewall based on ipchains. Config file could not be
simplier and it is virtually bug-free. I've used it for over a year now
and have no complaints at all. I think the website is
http://rcf.mvlan.net:8080/
I think they have a Debian package, but I always use their install
script. It's all well done.

  Alex.



Firewall program for Debian?

2001-08-21 Thread Han Yoo
Can someone recommend a decent and easy to use firewall program for
Debian?
(Something like ZoneAlarm...?)

Thanks!

Han


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Re: Firewall program for Debian?

2001-08-21 Thread dman
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 01:52:41PM -0400, Han Yoo wrote:
| Can someone recommend a decent and easy to use firewall program for
| Debian?
| (Something like ZoneAlarm...?)

Which kernel do you have?

Take your pick from 'iptables' 'ipchains' and 'ipfwadm' depending on
kernel version.  (BTW, I've never seen ZoneAlarm, only heard the name
before)

-D



Re: Firewall program for Debian?

2001-08-21 Thread Han Yoo

dman wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 01:52:41PM -0400, Han Yoo wrote:
 | Can someone recommend a decent and easy to use firewall program for
 | Debian?
 | (Something like ZoneAlarm...?)

 Which kernel do you have?

 Take your pick from 'iptables' 'ipchains' and 'ipfwadm' depending on
 kernel version.  (BTW, I've never seen ZoneAlarm, only heard the name
 before)

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Basically, I have the 2.2.19 kernel.
Is any of the programs that you mentined easy enough to be utilized by a Debian
novice without going into the heavy-duty configuration?

Thanks.

Han

P.S. ( ZoneAlarm is for the Windows users...)


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Re: Firewall program for Debian?

2001-08-21 Thread Hall Stevenson
 Basically, I have the 2.2.19 kernel.
 Is any of the programs that you mentined easy
 enough to be utilized by a Debian novice without
 going into the heavy-duty configuration?

If you use gnome, try 'firestarter'. It's just a gui-front end
to ipchains/iptables. It obviously comes with some defaults
that you're able to modify through the gui interface, but I
don't know how strict or secure it starts out... It does
create a 'script' that you can manipulate yourself once you
get the hang of things.

It's available here: http://firestarter.sourceforge.net/

If you use KDE, I'm sure there's something similar.

Hall



Re: Firewall program for Debian?

2001-08-21 Thread dman
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:58:57PM -0400, Han Yoo wrote:
| 
| dman wrote:
| 
|  On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 01:52:41PM -0400, Han Yoo wrote:
|  | Can someone recommend a decent and easy to use firewall program for
|  | Debian?
|  | (Something like ZoneAlarm...?)
| 
|  Which kernel do you have?
| 
|  Take your pick from 'iptables' 'ipchains' and 'ipfwadm' depending on
|  kernel version.  (BTW, I've never seen ZoneAlarm, only heard the name
|  before)
|
| Basically, I have the 2.2.19 kernel.

Then you will use ipchains.  If/When you upgrade to the 2.4 series you
will need to convert to iptables (or use the backwards compatibility
module).

| Is any of the programs that you mentined easy enough to be utilized
| by a Debian novice without going into the heavy-duty configuration?

You could install the 'ipmasq' package.  It provides a basic
ipchains configuration, though it is geared towards masquerading
connections from an internal LAN.  There is an excellent IPCHAINS
Howto on linuxdoc.org that explains packet filtering, ipchains, and
how to use it.  I don't know how much protection the ipmasq package
will provide though -- I still had CodeRed requests in my apache logs.
(BTW, for those that are listening -- I didn't know enough about
ipchains at the time to even check the configuration)

HTH,
-D



Re: Firewall program for Debian?

2001-08-21 Thread Brandon High
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:58:57PM -0400, Han Yoo wrote:

 Basically, I have the 2.2.19 kernel.
 Is any of the programs that you mentined easy enough to be utilized by a
 Debian novice without going into the heavy-duty configuration?

2.2.x uses IP-chains for its packet filter. This will allow you to block
certain ports and provide IP masquerade functions, but won't give you the
alerting provided by ZoneAlarm. You'll need to install an IDS (intrusion
detection system) as well.

I can't recommend one offhand, but you may want to ask on debian-security.

-B

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Re: Firewall program for Debian?

2001-08-21 Thread dman
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 01:48:11PM -0700, Brandon High wrote:
| On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:58:57PM -0400, Han Yoo wrote:
| 
|  Basically, I have the 2.2.19 kernel.
|  Is any of the programs that you mentined easy enough to be utilized by a
|  Debian novice without going into the heavy-duty configuration?
| 
| 2.2.x uses IP-chains for its packet filter. This will allow you to block
| certain ports and provide IP masquerade functions, but won't give you the
| alerting provided by ZoneAlarm. You'll need to install an IDS (intrusion
| detection system) as well.

ipchains and iptables have a logging facility so you can log packets
if you want to.  It is still up to you to actually read the logs
though.

| I can't recommend one offhand, but you may want to ask on debian-security.

tripwire is one I've heard mentioned here before.

-D