Re: Fw: Re: Sid Newbie - some questions
On Monday Aug 27, 23:48 Ross Burton wrote: I'm glad I've got the correct list! You Debian guys are a lot more friendly than the RedHat/Mandrake posse... :-) Yes this can be possible. If i made my first experiences with Linux, i used a german newsgroup. Most of people there used Suse. And it is a desaster: The knowledge is very small and there are very much aggressive poeple. Also this user list is not friendly at every time. Be careful what you are posting here. If you put stuff like spam or other jokes into this list, you can get very unfrendly messages and you could lose your membership. But this is a good thing i mean, to have a newsgroup, only with Debian based mails. And i agree with you. This is the friendliest newsgroup that i know. Timo
Re: Fw: Re: Sid Newbie - some questions
On Tuesday 28 August 2001 04:30 am, Timeboy wrote: And i agree with you. This is the friendliest newsgroup that i know. Try the KDE newsgroups. I haven't found anything friendlier. The Debian ones are pretty good too, but especially among the developers over there, there just aren't the massive flamewars nearly as often. - David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Re: Sid Newbie - some questions
Friendly can often be harshing on someone in a helpful manner ratehr than ignoring them. I for one would much rather be called the worst name in the universe and helped than be treated with kid gloves and continue to have the problem. I have noticed that there is a lot of harshing in the debian-* lists, but most questions get answered quickly, while I have heard in the redhat and mandrake lists, questions don't get good answers but they don't flame either. I guess you gotta pay the piper somehow, and Debian's version is flame-resistance. On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, David Nusinow wrote: On Monday 27 August 2001 02:48 pm, Ross Burton wrote: You Debian guys are a lot more friendly than the RedHat/Mandrake posse... :-) Man... if we're more friendly then I'd really be scared of the RedHat/Mandrake people... have you checked out debian-devel? Scary! - David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The early worm gets the bird. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Re: Fw: Re: Sid Newbie - some questions
my 2 bits worth! (an' that tells my age!!!) i most whole heartedly agree that this mailing list is most usefull, and quite slow to shoot at the questioner for their audacity to not already know the answer (or where/how to find it!) my experience here is that everyone acts like a responsible adult -- and not some sniveling bully. i've currently subscribe to a number of other lists, including redhat (disclaimer - i own rh stock), qmail, and amc (cars, not theatres, where again my age is apparent!). on those other lists, flame wars start all too easily. no so. so for all my debian, linux, and rh questions, i listen and ask here, thoughing in my few tidbits where they might be helpful. thanks to all! just as an aside, the amc list's flames to tend to be short lived. flame and your out! On Tuesday 28 August 2001 14:37, John Galt wrote: Friendly can often be harshing on someone in a helpful manner ratehr than ignoring them. I for one would much rather be called the worst name in the universe and helped than be treated with kid gloves and continue to have the problem. I have noticed that there is a lot of harshing in the debian-* lists, but most questions get answered quickly, while I have heard in the redhat and mandrake lists, questions don't get good answers but they don't flame either. I guess you gotta pay the piper somehow, and Debian's version is flame-resistance. On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, David Nusinow wrote: On Monday 27 August 2001 02:48 pm, Ross Burton wrote: You Debian guys are a lot more friendly than the RedHat/Mandrake posse... :-) Man... if we're more friendly then I'd really be scared of the RedHat/Mandrake people... have you checked out debian-devel? Scary! - David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- regards, allen wayne best contractor, diagnostics and support tools telnet 447-4070 your friendly neighborhood rambler owner my rambler will go from 0 to 105 Current date: 48:41:14::239:2001 All this time I've been VIEWING a RUSSIAN MIDGET SODOMIZE a HOUSECAT!
Fw: Re: Sid Newbie - some questions
On Monday Aug 27, 22:21 Ross Burton wrote: Hi, Today I installed Sid (via Potato) and became a Debian user, after many years as a RedHat/Mandrake user. Because of this I have a number of questions: 1. How can I see what distribution a package came from? Basically, I want to check that all of the packages on my system are from Sid, not Potato. I suggest you to use dselect. You can read some obout this tool in #man dselect. If you put only the following line into your /etc/apt/sources.list, you will have only access to the packages of Sid: deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free 2. How do I verify the dependancies, i.e. check that no packages should be installed. When I was upgrading to Sid I got a number of errors which I believe I have solved, but would like to check this! Use #dselect! It's a great tool! And can also manage the dependancies. 3. I guess to access my Reiserfs home drive I've got to recompile the kernel? 4. Okay - trouble-shooting time. When I start X if works fine for about 2 minutes, then the mouse jerks for a few seconds before locking up. Any idea why this is? 5. As XFree86 initializes I get these errors on the console: Symbol __glXMalloc from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a is unresolved! Symbol __glXFree from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a is unresolved! Symbol __glXLastContext from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a is unresolved! Any ideas how I can resolve this? My idea: Because you had much errors while updating from Potato to Sid, there are now some packages unconfigured. To update from Potato to Sid, you should also use dselect. And apt-get is also the right tool for this. Dselect is a ncurses based frontend for apt-get. You could reinstall your Debian. Or wait, what other users reccomend to you. 6. What mailing list should questions like this go to? Is debian-user for the stable release only, or all releases including Sid? This is the right adress for you. Here are users of all Debian releases. Thanks for any help, Ross -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Re: Sid Newbie - some questions
On 27 Aug 2001 23:34:47 +, Timeboy wrote: [snip] Use #dselect! It's a great tool! And can also manage the dependancies. I agree - I'd heard of dselect before I installed Debian so was saved by using it. I was just wondering if there was another way of checking the dependancies. I'm glad I've got the correct list! You Debian guys are a lot more friendly than the RedHat/Mandrake posse... :-) Thanks, Ross Burton
Re: Fw: Re: Sid Newbie - some questions
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 10:48:30PM +0100, Ross Burton wrote: On 27 Aug 2001 23:34:47 +, Timeboy wrote: [snip] Use #dselect! It's a great tool! And can also manage the dependancies. I agree - I'd heard of dselect before I installed Debian so was saved by using it. I was just wondering if there was another way of checking the dependancies. I'm glad I've got the correct list! You Debian guys are a lot more friendly than the RedHat/Mandrake posse... :-) Wow. This is the first time I've ever heard this list described as friendly :-) Good to hear. -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpHyx5vh0uxi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fw: Re: Sid Newbie - some questions
On Monday 27 August 2001 02:48 pm, Ross Burton wrote: You Debian guys are a lot more friendly than the RedHat/Mandrake posse... :-) Man... if we're more friendly then I'd really be scared of the RedHat/Mandrake people... have you checked out debian-devel? Scary! - David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
