Re: Goodbye, people!
Alan Tam schrieb: Hi, I've installed Debian Gnu/Linux 2 months ago, till now I still can't handle the Dosemu package and run dos correctly. But I never think of giving it up. I use win95 to download and read news groups to improve my knowledge on Linux. Linux is my destination and windows is only the bridge. After all, I am a home PC user. I am in no hurry. That's exact, what I do, except I use WIN$95 on travel and a stable OS/2 at home. It's using by my wife to, so I wouldn't try to use WIN$95. Matthias
Re: Goodbye, people!
Hi kaynjay, you wrote on: 02 Feb 99 at 20:11 (received 03.02.99) about : _Re: Goodbye, people!_ will get there. What I do have is a system that doesn't crash every five seconds, it is fast and very configurable I guess what I'm trying to say is if I can work with this O/S anyone can. It just takes time. Use Windows but keep plucking away at Linux:) Give yourself something to compare Windows to. I have to agree with you, Kent. My primary system is still OS/2 (note the mailer) but I am slowly moving into Linux/Debian. I have far less time than I'd like to spend with it, but I can see the benefits down the road. Now if I can only get X up to a state my wife would find palatable ... :) Same here, Windows NT user, *but* already using a UUCP provider for my emails and news (CrossPoint). At first, I messed up the system about each and every day. Formatted the HD about 12 to 15 times and re-installed Linux (had /etc/* saved) :-) Finally compiled my custom-Kernel with soundblaster support and it even worked! Boy, was I proud! Managed to install netscape finally, set up a PPP provider, can surf the WWW. All went surprisingly smooth (thanks to pppconfig). Then I became cocky, just wanted to switch to Linux with UUCP. Installed sendmail, procmail, pine and failed miserably. Gosh, I really hate sendmail-config, that's a real pain in the you-know-what. Then switched to exim (instead of sendmail), that worked better, I received email, got confident again, but configuring a mailer to UUCP is more work than I thought. Now I'm waiting for some good prince to come along and help me with that :-) (already posted the question exim and uucp here today). But I'm stuck with Linux now and I'm really working to make it my *only* OS, no matter what cryptic configs I may have to run. Kind regards Frederick
Re: Goodbye, people!
Assuming you still haven't got your CD-ROM working, tell me the answers to these questions and they might be enough to establish what you need to do to get your cd working: what kernel version are you using? - I might be able to compile you a module for that kernel. Do you have any other kernel versions on your debian CD? (to find this out, boot from the rescue disk, press alt-F2, enter to open the shell, mount /dev/hdd /mnt, cd /mnt/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/base, ls kernel*) If you have you could copy these files onto your harddisk once you have mounted some partitions, then carry on with the install. Then when you need the cdrom drive, use alt-F2 to get to another login prompt, login there, change to the directory where you copied the CD to, dpkg -i kernel* and hopefully that kernel will have the iso9660 module in it. Then you can reboot, and try accessing your CD then. type dpkg and that will get you into the debian package managemnt system. If you need any further help/questions, I'll help you if I can, Frankie http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.ukbegin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Goodbye, people!
distribution to compare it to, I'm glad I did. After getting over the realization that I wouldn't have everything working that I wanted in Linux, right now, I began to relax and it has become a hobby. Well an obsession:) Gee, that sounds familiar! ;-) Yes, Linux's learning curve is pretty steep, and you can't just overwhelm the system either (at least I can't!). You're taking the right tack -- you have to relax, plug away, keep trying, and savor every little victory; after, of course, making backup copies of your config files in case you screw something up! You wouldn't believe how many *.conf.good files used to litter my hard drives. ;-) -- . | Windows: buggy, bloated, slow, multiple reboots Randy | ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | You can't live with Windows, but you CAN live http://www.golgotha.net | without it! http://www.golgotha.net/why-linux/
Re: Goodbye, people!
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Re: Goodbye, people!
ktb writes: ...my clock doesn't keep time,... What sort of probelm are you having with it? perhaps you should try the chrony package from unstable. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Goodbye, people!/Digressing to time.
It's been quite a while since I posted here about it. I can't even remember all I did. It is consistently 6 hours off. Time zone, bios clock and everything is set ok but when I reboot the correct time is lost. It has been one of those things on the back burner. I am (was) working with the tech support at Cheap Bytes about this this is the last email I received on the 25th: I have been talking with the upstream glibc maintainer, and he says that the problem is actually a bug in the glibc code. This means that you will need a newer version of glibc (and the timezones package) to fix this problem. I have a request in to the Debian glibc maintainer, and will know more about which version you need when I hear back from him. I was just waiting but if you know what all that means I wouldn't mind getting this fixed:) Kent John Hasler wrote: ktb writes: ...my clock doesn't keep time,... What sort of probelm are you having with it? perhaps you should try the chrony package from unstable. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Goodbye, people!
Hi, I've installed Debian Gnu/Linux 2 months ago, till now I still can't handle the Dosemu package and run dos correctly. But I never think of giving it up. I use win95 to download and read news groups to improve my knowledge on Linux. Linux is my destination and windows is only the bridge. After all, I am a home PC user. I am in no hurry. Alan Cristiano Viana wrote: Well, I have tryied... Everybody was tolding me that Debian was the best Linux... But I will keep working with my Windows 98. It recognizes my CD-ROM. Goodbye and thanks to all those people who have helped me! Cristiano -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Goodbye, people!/Digressing to time.
On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, ktb wrote: It's been quite a while since I posted here about it. I can't even remember all I did. It is consistently 6 hours off. Time zone, bios clock and everything is set ok but when I reboot the correct time is lost. It has been one of those things on the back burner. I am (was) working with the tech support at Cheap Bytes about this this is the last email I received on the 25th: I have also encountered the same problem few months ago. Try to: 1. Edit /etc/default/rcS 2. find GMT=-u and replace it with GMT= 3. set your clock (Thru BIOS or thru hwclock). Try to reboot if it works. I don't claim that this is the answer but it certainly made my clock consistent on my Debian box. regards, = = Andre M. Varon Lasaltech Incorporated = = == Technical Head Fax-Tel: (034)435-0836 = == = = = = E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] = WebPage : http://andre.lasaltech.com
Re: Goodbye, people!/Digressing to time.
ktb writes: It's been quite a while since I posted here about it. I can't even remember all I did. It is consistently 6 hours off. Do you have your hardware clock set to local time? If so, check /etc/init.d/boot to see if you have GMT=u . It should be GMT= . -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Re: Goodbye, people!
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/02/99 at 05:16 PM, ktb [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: will get there. What I do have is a system that doesn't crash every five seconds, it is fast and very configurable I guess what I'm trying to say is if I can work with this O/S anyone can. It just takes time. Use Windows but keep plucking away at Linux:) Give yourself something to compare Windows to. I have to agree with you, Kent. My primary system is still OS/2 (note the mailer) but I am slowly moving into Linux/Debian. I have far less time than I'd like to spend with it, but I can see the benefits down the road. Now if I can only get X up to a state my wife would find palatable ... :) Kenward -- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] The trouble with life is, you're halfway through it before you realize it's a do-it-yourself thing. ---
Re: Goodbye, people!/Digressing to time.
A. M. Varon writes: I have also encountered the same problem few months ago. Try to: 1. Edit /etc/default/rcS 2. find GMT=-u and replace it with GMT= 3. set your clock (Thru BIOS or thru hwclock). Try to reboot if it works. You're right: it's rcS, not boot. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Goodbye, people!
On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 08:30:35PM -0500, Randy Edwards wrote: Gee, that sounds familiar! ;-) Yes, Linux's learning curve is pretty steep, and you can't just overwhelm the system either (at least I can't!). You're taking the right tack -- you have to relax, plug away, keep trying, and savor every little victory; after, of course, making backup copies of your config files in case you screw something up! You wouldn't believe how many *.conf.good files used to litter my hard drives. ;-) I've been using it for years (and am a developer); I still do that sort of thing :-) There'are always something new. Lately, I've learned a lot about DNS and anti-spam in sendmail. Someday I want to learn enough to hack on the kernel in a proficient manner. Of course, by that time, there will probably be hundreds of new programs just waiting for me to learn about :-)
Re: Goodbye, people!/Digressing to time.
Are you in the CST time zone (6 hours from UTC)? If that is the case, you might be configured to use UTC but are net setting it that way. After you set the system clock, you need to set the CMOS clock with 'hwclock --systohc --utc'. Here is what I put in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/checktime: #!/bin/sh rdate time.nist.gov hwclock --systohc --utc Everytime I connect to my ISP, it resets the system clock from a time server and then resets the CMOS clock. It works fine for me. If you don't set the system clock to UTC, delete the --utc parameter from the hwclock command. Bob On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, ktb wrote: It's been quite a while since I posted here about it. I can't even remember all I did. It is consistently 6 hours off. Time zone, bios clock and everything is set ok but when I reboot the correct time is lost. It has been one of those things on the back burner. I am (was) working with the tech support at Cheap Bytes about this this is the last email I received on the 25th: I have been talking with the upstream glibc maintainer, and he says that the problem is actually a bug in the glibc code. This means that you will need a newer version of glibc (and the timezones package) to fix this problem. I have a request in to the Debian glibc maintainer, and will know more about which version you need when I hear back from him. I was just waiting but if you know what all that means I wouldn't mind getting this fixed:) Kent John Hasler wrote: ktb writes: ...my clock doesn't keep time,... What sort of probelm are you having with it? perhaps you should try the chrony package from unstable. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Goodbye, people!
Well, I have tryied... Everybody was tolding me that Debian was the best Linux... But I will keep working with my Windows 98. It recognizes my CD-ROM. Goodbye and thanks to all those people who have helped me! Cristiano
Re: Goodbye, people!
Cristiano, Try RedHat before giving up. It does almost everything for you. Debian is great, also very hard!! On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Cristiano Viana wrote: Well, I have tryied... Everybody was tolding me that Debian was the best Linux... But I will keep working with my Windows 98. It recognizes my CD-ROM. Goodbye and thanks to all those people who have helped me! Cristiano -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Goodbye, people!
Two months ago I loaded Debian on my box. Prior to that I had one year of experience with windows 95. I used windows for email and the net mostly. About one month and two weeks ago I wanted to switch to Red Hat as I heard it was easier to use. I received encouragement from the list to stick with Debian. While I have no other distribution to compare it to, I'm glad I did. After getting over the realization that I wouldn't have everything working that I wanted in Linux, right now, I began to relax and it has become a hobby. Well an obsession:) I still haven't compiled my kernel, my clock doesn't keep time, I have no printer but I know I will get there. What I do have is a system that doesn't crash every five seconds, it is fast and very configurable I guess what I'm trying to say is if I can work with this O/S anyone can. It just takes time. Use Windows but keep plucking away at Linux:) Give yourself something to compare Windows to. Good luck, Kent Cristiano Viana wrote: Well, I have tryied... Everybody was tolding me that Debian was the best Linux... But I will keep working with my Windows 98. It recognizes my CD-ROM. Goodbye and thanks to all those people who have helped me! Cristiano -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
