Letras grandes en helix-gnome sonido
Buenas!! Por fin he conseguido configurar mi ADSL!!gracias a [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bueno, ahora tengo dos problemillas, el primero es que me instale Helix-Gnome del CD 1.0 de La Espiral, pero las letras o fuentes o como se quiera decir, son enormes!he intentado configurar por ahi algunas cosillas, pero es que no encuentro nada para que las fuentes sean mas pequeñas...porque cada ventana me ocupa dos veces el monitor... Y el otro problema es que configure la tarjeta de sonido con alsaconf, seleccione mi tarjeta, ya tenia los modulos intalados, y puse una cancion en el XMMS y lo que ocurre es que hasta que no acaba la cancion se bloquea todo y no va nada! despues cuando acaba la cancion ya vuelve a ir todo...pense que podria ser por el XMMS pero con el FreeAmp tambien paso... podria ser porque en alsaconf en las 4 ventanas de configuracion puse 128 en los valores que me pedia? Siento preguntar tanto... muchas gracias :) Saludetes
Helix Gnome
I have a Libranet(1.82) cd and I wish to use the Helix gnome packages in it. I noticed that it is for woody ( or what I see in the directory structure). I tried one package to see if it will work. I tried grip and it needs libgtk... ( that's all I remember) anyway, I have this 1.2.0 while it says it needs 1.2-helix. I tried to force it into installing but It failed. Is it possible to install the packages from helix into my Potato system? if yes -how? Aldous
helix gnome vs sid (apt problem)
I seem to have screwed up my system by changing apt-lines from helix-gnome to sid, and partially de-installing gnome. Now, whenever I try to apt-get install anything, I get the following. Can anyone help? aurelius:/home/ocorrain# apt-get install kppp Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: libgnome32: Depends: gnome-libs-data (= 1.2.13-4) but 1.2.11-ximian.1 is to be installed libgnomesupport0: Depends: gnome-libs-data (= 1.2.13-4) but 1.2.11-ximian.1 is to be installed libgnomeui32: Depends: gnome-libs-data (= 1.2.13-4) but 1.2.11-ximian.1 is to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). Trying... aurelius:/home/ocorrain# apt-get -f install Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following extra packages will be installed: gnome-libs-data 1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 582 not upgraded. 4 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/294kB of archives. After unpacking 511kB will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] (Reading database ... 94769 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace gnome-libs-data 1.2.11-ximian.1 (using .../gnome-libs-data_1.2.13-8_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement gnome-libs-data ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-libs-data_1.2.13-8_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/idl/name-service.idl', which is also in package libgnorba27 dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-libs-data_1.2.13-8_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Can anyone help? Tiarnan
Re: helix-gnome para potato en woody
BUENOS DIAS!!! Y entonces, va Bladecoder y dice ¿helix-gnome para potato en woody? Hola, He visto en la web de helix que no dan soporte para woody e invitan a los usuarios de woody a que usen los paquetes para potato. Alguien lo ha hecho?? Da problemas instalar los paquetes de potato de helix (en el sources cambiar woody por stable) en una woody??? Puede que gnomeprint y los paquetes asociados te den problemas, por que los de woody son una version superior, pero ximian necesita los suyos, yo lo solucione desde el dselect diciendole que mantenga los packetes (tecla =) no se como hacer lo mismo con apt. aparte de eso funciona bastante bien. -- Mi ordenador portatil tiene una autonomía de 6 horas. Luego vuelve a casa. Grettings of _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] REGISTER Lic. Piloto Saludos __ _| |___ __ _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] LiNUX ISPA #963210 de / _` | / -_) _` | http://pagina.de/alea USER EC-ALE \__,_|_\___\__,_| ICQ#40922797 #66734 Para obtener Llave Publica GnuPGP un mail con subject: enviar clave pub
helix-gnome para potato en woody
Hola, He visto en la web de helix que no dan soporte para woody e invitan a los usuarios de woody a que usen los paquetes para potato. Alguien lo ha hecho?? Da problemas instalar los paquetes de potato de helix (en el sources cambiar woody por stable) en una woody??? Saludos, __RAFA__ -- This is your fortune cookie: Mamá astronomía de seguro pasaría hambre, si no ganase el pan su hija la astrología. -- Johanes Kepler. Rafael Garcia Moreno GnuPG Public Key: 0x51BAE8DB
Re: helix-gnome para potato en woody
On 01 Jun 2001 15:37:33 +0200, Bladecoder wrote: Hola, He visto en la web de helix que no dan soporte para woody e invitan a los usuarios de woody a que usen los paquetes para potato. Alguien lo ha hecho?? Da problemas instalar los paquetes de potato de helix (en el sources cambiar woody por stable) en una woody??? no, funcionan perfectamente en woody. simplemente tienes que cambiar woody por stable. saludos -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gnome-db.org/
problema con Helix Gnome 1.4
Hola a todos: Estoy intentando instalar Helix Gnome 1.4, en una potato 2.2r3 usando apt-get, tal y como se explica en el web de ximian. El caso es que modifico el fichero /etc/apt/sources.list y hago apt-get update, pero al hacer apt-get install task-helix-gnome me da el siguiente error: E: Couldn't find package task-helix-gnome ¿Alguien puede ayudarme? Gracias por adelantado - Eduardo Rodriguez Barrera Departamento de Matematicas [EMAIL PROTECTED]U.L.P.G.C. tfn: +34 928 458 808fax: +34 928 458 811
Re: problema con Helix Gnome 1.4
El 08 May 2001 16:24:13 +, Eduardo Rodriguez Barrera escribió: Hola a todos: Estoy intentando instalar Helix Gnome 1.4, en una potato 2.2r3 usando apt-get, tal y como se explica en el web de ximian. El caso es que modifico el fichero /etc/apt/sources.list y hago apt-get update, pero al hacer apt-get install task-helix-gnome me da el siguiente error: E: Couldn't find package task-helix-gnome Este preoblema me dió a mi al principio, pero no pude resolverlo de manera normal. Se ve que el servidor de helix-gnome debe estar recargado (aunque ya hay 4-5 mirrors repartidos por el globo) y no logras bajar el archivo Releases. Por lo tanto, despues de estar varios días y nada, decidí bajarlo a la ximian, es decir, con el instalador go-gnome. En la página de ximian te vienen las instrucciones. Además es bastante facil. Saludos. -- GuitarLinuX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reg. Linux User N 207107 (o_.' LIBERA TU MENTE //\c{} USA SOFTWARE GNU/GPL V__)_ Más drivers para Linux ya. Participa en: http://www.libranet.com/petition.html -
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 01:40:47AM +0200, Frank Preut wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:12:09AM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: At 12:27 AM 4/18/01 -0400, joeytsai wrote: Also, I noticed some other threads referred to ximian for stable; that's certainly a change. I remember when I got Helix Gnome it required woody. that's the stupid part about all this: ximian calls woody unstable on their spidermonkey server, yet it will, as it seems, only work on a stable (potato) system.. tsts.. frank. The naming problems are a result of history. Before there was a testing distribution, woody was the same as unstable. That was when Helix set things up. Probably if they changed things now that would disrupt the people who have their apt sources set up. The ximian site says they support potato and woody.
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:12:09AM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: At 12:27 AM 4/18/01 -0400, joeytsai wrote: Also, I noticed some other threads referred to ximian for stable; that's certainly a change. I remember when I got Helix Gnome it required woody. that's the stupid part about all this: ximian calls woody unstable on their spidermonkey server, yet it will, as it seems, only work on a stable (potato) system.. tsts.. frank.
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 01:40:47AM +0200, Frank Preut wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:12:09AM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: At 12:27 AM 4/18/01 -0400, joeytsai wrote: Also, I noticed some other threads referred to ximian for stable; that's certainly a change. I remember when I got Helix Gnome it required woody. that's the stupid part about all this: ximian calls woody unstable on their spidermonkey server, yet it will, as it seems, only work on a stable (potato) system.. tsts.. Kinda makes you wonder if you know what they are doing. Ok, that's an unfair shot :) I thought the ximian packages were fine when I was using potato; now that I'm running sid I removed them; they cause nothing but trouble if you run woody or sid. -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpSMKfCv6aSV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
:: Ross Boylan :: Is this a bug with anything, or just an inevitable result of trying to put unlike things (ximian and debian) together? If you are running unstable (sid), you should not be running Ximian's Gnome. Purge their packages (they have ximian or helix in their version) and use Debian's. // joey tsai
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Ross Boylan wrote: I have a similar problem, but slightly different packages: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: libgnomesupport0: Depends: gnome-libs-data (= 1.2.13-4) but 1.2.11-ximian.1 is installed libgnomeui32: Depends: gnome-libs-data (= 1.2.13-4) but 1.2.11-ximian.1 is installed Could anyone explain what is going on? Would apt-get install on the two packages fix things up? When I do it as a trial run it seems to work, though I get a large number of packages it would reconfigure. I upgraded a couple potato systems to woody and then sid and got very similar errors. apt-get dist-upgrade got stuck at a point like this. I finally did apt-get install libgnomesupport0 libgnomeui32 gnome-libs-data (or maybe it was just gnome-libs-data; sorry I'm not sure) which worked, and then I went back to dist-upgrade and continued. I have two more potato systems to upgrade. I think I'll try purging helix stuff first as suggested. ...RickM...
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
If you are running unstable (sid), you should not be running Ximian's Gnome. Purge their packages (they have ximian or helix in their version) and use Debian's. Since I've been running sid and Ximian's Gnome packages, until I did an apt-get dist-upgrade yesterday, I saw no problems. Then, I ran into a similar problem as the original poster -- there was a debian package newer than the ximian one and it caused a brief headache. Why exactly shouldn't you mix the two ?? Won't ximian normally have newer packages than debian, and therefore avoid a conflict ?? Regards Hall Stevenson
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
Since I've been running sid and Ximian's Gnome packages, until I did an apt-get dist-upgrade yesterday, I saw no problems. Then, I ran into a similar problem as the original poster -- there was a debian package newer than the ximian one and it caused a brief headache. Why exactly shouldn't you mix the two ?? Won't ximian normally have newer packages than debian, and therefore avoid a conflict ?? You can check previous posts about this subject. Ximian does not support the unstable branch of Debian. Furthermore, their versioniong seems to be inconsistent (or at least troublesome) with the standard Debian package versioning. Finally, the unstable packages are usually more up-to-date. // joey tsai
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
At 12:27 AM 4/18/01 -0400, joeytsai wrote: :: Ross Boylan :: Is this a bug with anything, or just an inevitable result of trying to put unlike things (ximian and debian) together? If you are running unstable (sid), you should not be running Ximian's Gnome. Purge their packages (they have ximian or helix in their version) and use Debian's. // joey tsai I'm running testing (woody). What's the right move for that? Also, I noticed some other threads referred to ximian for stable; that's certainly a change. I remember when I got Helix Gnome it required woody.
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
I have a similar problem, but slightly different packages: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: libgnomesupport0: Depends: gnome-libs-data (= 1.2.13-4) but 1.2.11-ximian.1 is installed libgnomeui32: Depends: gnome-libs-data (= 1.2.13-4) but 1.2.11-ximian.1 is installed Could anyone explain what is going on? Would apt-get install on the two packages fix things up? When I do it as a trial run it seems to work, though I get a large number of packages it would reconfigure. Is this a bug with anything, or just an inevitable result of trying to put unlike things (ximian and debian) together?
newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
I'm new to Linux and even newer to Debian. I am running woody, and today (15th) I did an apt-get upgrade that's messed up Gnome. I was running Helix Gnome, although I did plan to remove it and go back to plain Gnome...whatever the update did today it seems to have replaced parts of Helix Gnome with newer standard Gnome components and completely messed up my dependancies. apt-get upgrade failed with the text pasted below:- Unpacking oaf (from .../archives/oaf_0.6.5-5_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/oaf_0.6.5-5_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/oafd', which is also in package liboaf0 dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Preparing to replace gnome-panel-data 1.2.4-helix2 (using .../gnome-panel-data_1.4.0.2-1_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement gnome-panel-data ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-panel-data_1.4.0.2-1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/gnome/help/panel', which is also in package gnome-help-data Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/oaf_0.6.5-5_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-panel-data_1.4.0.2-1_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) I cannot apt-get -f install out of it as that fails with the same error. I thought I would remove helix completely and then reinstall gnome, but apt is telling me I do not have task-helix-gnome installed. I'm at a bit of a loss. Am I right to try and remove then re-install Gnome (I don't want Helix back) and if so, how can I do this. Any suggestions would be very welcome. ThanksSimon. -- Simon Hooper GnuPG 1024D/F3D1353A 64AF 1419 4B67 CE13 E312 7C80 CFB0 9414 F3D1 353A pgpwz6dYID0Iw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 11:36:52PM +0100, simon wrote: I cannot apt-get -f install out of it as that fails with the same error. I thought I would remove helix completely and then reinstall gnome, but apt is telling me I do not have task-helix-gnome installed. I'm at a bit of a loss. Am I right to try and remove then re-install Gnome (I don't want Helix back) and if so, how can I do this. Any suggestions would be very welcome. purge every gnome package. removing task-* packages does not remove anything. dpkg -l | grep ximian purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah dpkg -l | grep helix purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah then try a apt-get install task-gnome with your sources.list NOT including ximian/helix. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpZMonbYnU3L.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
On (15/04/01 14:45), Ethan Benson wrote: purge every gnome package. removing task-* packages does not remove anything. dpkg -l | grep ximian purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah dpkg -l | grep helix purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah then try a apt-get install task-gnome with your sources.list NOT including ximian/helix. I cannot remove any of the packages. Whatever I attempt to remove I just get the following error:- Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: gnome-control-center: Depends: oaf (= 0.6.5) but it is not going to be installed gnome-panel: Depends: gnome-panel-data (= 1.4.0.2-1) but 1.2.4-helix2 is to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). Running apt-get -f install just produces the error I posted before. I think I need to do some reading on apt... any help in the mean time would be most welcome :) Simon. -- Simon Hooper GnuPG 1024D/F3D1353A 64AF 1419 4B67 CE13 E312 7C80 CFB0 9414 F3D1 353A pgpM1I4ZNZNhw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:14:49AM +0100, Simon wrote: I cannot remove any of the packages. Whatever I attempt to remove I just get the following error:- Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: gnome-control-center: Depends: oaf (= 0.6.5) but it is not going to be installed gnome-panel: Depends: gnome-panel-data (= 1.4.0.2-1) but 1.2.4-helix2 is to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). dpkg --purge gnome-control-center gnome-panel then do the rest of the ximian/helix purging as described earlier. also make sure your sources.list do NOT contain ximian or helix sources and run apt-get update. you might want to use dselect to purge these packages, they will be marked as `obsolete' in dselect after removing helix crap from the sources.list and running update. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpvCSedoeYfY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: dpkg -l | grep ximian purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah dpkg -l | grep helix purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah Minor point: you might want to make that grep ximi instead of grep ximian, given that helix/ximian version numbers tend to be quite long, and dpkg -l offers no way to specify a field width. I (mostly) eliminated Ximian today, and, yes, there is a package or two that you'll miss with the complete ximian. Sorry to hear that Simon's upgrade messed up. I actually did an apt-get dist-upgrade today, and it was very helpful in purging Ximian. It seems that a bunch of new 1.4 core packages made it into testing today, which upgraded from Ximian reasonably cleanly (it just took a couple of go-arounds with -f to make it work). Then, it was just a matter of manually replacing the rest of the Ximian packages. In most cases, apt-get --purge remove followed by apt-get install did the trick, but, if dependencies got in the way, I downloaded the deb's and dpkg -i'ed them (this would have definately been simplified by a --force-downgrade in apt-get...). Most of those went to equal versions, but a few (mostly the games) seemed to be downgrades. Oh well. I can't personally see much difference between gnome-xbill 1.2 and 1.0 g. As was pointed out in a previous thread, there are some useful gnome and gnome-related packages that have not yet made it into testing. For those packages, I kept the Ximian versions. Those packages include: abiword eog gnome-applets sawfish sawfish-gnome I also kept the necessary Ximian dependancies for those packages: libgnomeprint11 librep9 rep rep-doc rep-gtk rep-gtk-gnome I suppose that it would have been possible to eliminate these 11 packages, and replace them with versions from unstable, but then you start getting into bonobo dependancies...eek! I'm trying to keep my box a fairly clean testing installation, though I have installed a few packages from unstable. It's so hard to resist when it works so easily, but I decided to stay with the devil I know, in this case. So, those Ximian packages stay on, I've got local copies of them, and I no longer have spidermonkey.ximian.com in my sources.list. Oh, I also kept a few of the pretty theme packages that Ximian is so keen on (HeliX is still, by far, my favourite Sawfish theme g): sawfish-themes gtk-themes helix-sweetpill Anyways, it all seems to be working together quite nicely. Hope this helps out any other would-be Ximian-purgers out there. -- David Steinberg -o) Computer Engineering Undergrad, UBC / \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]_\_v
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 05:20:16PM -0700, David Steinberg wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: dpkg -l | grep ximian purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah dpkg -l | grep helix purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah Minor point: you might want to make that grep ximi instead of grep ximian, given that helix/ximian version numbers tend to be quite long, and dpkg -l offers no way to specify a field width. this may only affect the woody dpkg but setting COLLUMS (that looks spelled wrong) will adjust this. removing the helix sources, running update then using dselect to purge all the `obsolete/local' packages really is probably the best way. dpkg -i'ed them (this would have definately been simplified by a --force-downgrade in apt-get...). i think apt has a --force-downgrade. As was pointed out in a previous thread, there are some useful gnome and gnome-related packages that have not yet made it into testing. For those packages, I kept the Ximian versions. Those packages include: ximian packages are not binary compatible with debian's so that is not a good idea. better option is to install the missing packages from debian unstable. use of apt's pinning feature can aid this. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpql6b1rp5Ok.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: this may only affect the woody dpkg but setting COLLUMS (that looks spelled wrong) will adjust this. Very nice! I had no idea. Thanks. Oh, it's COLUMNS. :) i think apt has a --force-downgrade. [EMAIL PROTECTED] dave]$ apt-get --force-downgrade install rep E: Command line option --force-downgrade is not understood [EMAIL PROTECTED] dave]$ apt-get -v apt 0.5.3 for linux i386 compiled on Mar 7 2001 19:25:55 ...maybe on a newer version? ximian packages are not binary compatible with debian's so that is not a good idea. better option is to install the missing packages from debian unstable. use of apt's pinning feature can aid this. Okie dokie. Thanks for the advice. I'll get on it (I'm still keeping my theme packages, though). :) -- David Steinberg -o) Computer Engineering Undergrad, UBC / \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]_\_v
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
dpkg --purge gnome-control-center gnome-panel then do the rest of the ximian/helix purging as described earlier. also make sure your sources.list do NOT contain ximian or helix sources and run apt-get update. Thanks for your help, that did the trick. I think I'll try Windowmaker now. Simon -- Simon Hooper GnuPG 1024D/F3D1353A 64AF 1419 4B67 CE13 E312 7C80 CFB0 9414 F3D1 353A pgpQKd1kSOClj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Getting Helix-Gnome
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I'd highly recommend against using the Helix packages. I've found that they have conflicts with other packages on a recurring basis. I have installed them on three computers with different configurations and had no problems so far. Of course I removed most Debian Gnome packages before installing Ximian. I even might try downloading the 1.4 test release next sunday. Is there an ftp equivalent? I am having trouble getting apt-get to work using http, and am limited to using the ftp method at teh moment. You can download the packages with wget and add a line pointing to their location on your harddisk to sources.list (that's what I did). Felix
Re: Getting Helix-Gnome
Is there an ftp equivalent? I am having trouble getting apt-get to work using http, and am limited to using the ftp method at teh moment. You can download the packages with wget and add a line pointing to their location on your harddisk to sources.list (that's what I did). Is the original poster aware that the name has been changed from helix to ximian? Change helixgnome.com to ximian.com in your apt sources list and it should work. -- Andrew
Re: Getting Helix-Gnome
On Wed Feb 28 21:49:39 2001 Greg Gilbert wrote... The following line works: deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian unstable main But I'd highly recommend against using the Helix packages. I've found that they have conflicts with other packages on a recurring basis. Is there an ftp equivalent? I am having trouble getting apt-get to work using http, and am limited to using the ftp method at teh moment. Thanks. -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]843-745-3154 Charleston SC. -- Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - (c) 2000 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.
Getting Helix-Gnome
Hi, what is the correct path to get Helix-Gnome in sources.list and the apt-get command I should exec? I've been trying some stuff but couldnt make it work! I wish to get the latest Helix version (Xivian?) Regards, Martin.
Re: Getting Helix-Gnome
The following line works: deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian unstable main But I'd highly recommend against using the Helix packages. I've found that they have conflicts with other packages on a recurring basis. Greg * Martin Marconcini ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, what is the correct path to get Helix-Gnome in sources.list and the apt-get command I should exec? I've been trying some stuff but couldnt make it work! I wish to get the latest Helix version (Xivian?) Regards, Martin.
Re: Getting Helix-Gnome
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Greg Gilbert wrote: But I'd highly recommend against using the Helix packages. I've found that they have conflicts with other packages on a recurring basis. Really? I've been using Helix/Ximian on Debian (first potato then woody) for a couple of months now, and I haven't seen any problems like that yet. I'm curious to know more. Which release were you using, and which packages gave you problems? -- David Steinberg -o) Computer Engineering Undergrad, UBC / \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]_\_v
Re: Getting Helix-Gnome
David Steinberg wrote: On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Greg Gilbert wrote: But I'd highly recommend against using the Helix packages. I've found that they have conflicts with other packages on a recurring basis. Really? I've been using Helix/Ximian on Debian (first potato then woody) for a couple of months now, and I haven't seen any problems like that yet. I'm curious to know more. Which release were you using, and which packages gave you problems? I had problems that I tracked down to mc-common.It works now but it tried to remove gdm.It did actually till I solved the problems manually.This was around a month ago.
helix-gnome
Instale helix-gnome y este requiere depende de gdm el cual no estoy interesado en instalar es posible instalar helix-gnome sin gdm? o es posible luego de instalar helix hacer un borrado por la fuerza de gdm? Gracias, saludos.
Re: helix-gnome
Hola, On 19.02.01 20:55:09 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instale helix-gnome y este requiere depende de gdm el cual no estoy interesado en instalar es posible instalar helix-gnome sin gdm? o es posible luego de instalar helix hacer un borrado por la fuerza de gdm? Claro que es posible instalar helix-gnome sin gdm. Supongo que has mirado task-helix-gnome y que este incluye gdm. Basta con que en lugar de instalar task-helix-gnome instales manualmente todos los demás paquetes de los que depende, exceptuando gdm. También puedes instalar todo y luego hacer `apt-get remove gdm`. Eso de borrado por la fuerza suena muy mal :-) Un saludo, Jon
Re: helix-gnome
Instale helix-gnome y este requiere depende de gdm el cual no estoy interesado en instalar es posible instalar helix-gnome sin gdm? o es posible luego de instalar helix hacer un borrado por la fuerza de gdm? Claro que es posible instalar helix-gnome sin gdm. Supongo que has mirado task-helix-gnome y que este incluye gdm. Basta con que en lugar de instalar task-helix-gnome instales manualmente todos los demás paquetes de los que depende, exceptuando gdm. También puedes instalar todo y luego hacer `apt-get remove gdm`. Eso de borrado por la fuerza suena muy mal :-) Un saludo, Jon tambien puede decirle apt-get install xdm y el automaticamente instalar xdm y borra gdm sin hacer nada a la fuerza
Re: helix gnome sound support not working
Moritz == Moritz Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Moritz Do you have xmms configured to use the esd output plugin? Moritz (I've no idea about the other programs...) I would have thought this was the default. Oh, wait, no, its trying to use the OSS plugin. Thanks for your suggestion. xmms works now. I wonder why gnome applications can't play sound (eg. gnome-control-centre). -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
helix gnome sound support not working
Hello, I have not been able to get sound support working under Helix Gnome for several weeks now. esdplay works fine, but no Gnome programs work (xmms and Gnome Control Centre for instance). (xmms works if I kill esd first). Any ideas? -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: helix gnome sound support not working
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have not been able to get sound support working under Helix Gnome for several weeks now. esdplay works fine, but no Gnome programs work (xmms and Gnome Control Centre for instance). Do you have xmms configured to use the esd output plugin? (I've no idea about the other programs...) moritz -- Moritz Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.chaosdorf.de/moritz/ Debian/GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org/ http://www.gnu.org/ GPG fingerprint = 3A14 3923 15BE FD57 FC06 B501 0841 2D7B 6F98 4199
Actualion de Gnome a Helix-Gnome de paquetes de La Espiral
Hola He actualizado a Helix Gnome con los paquetes de La Espiral, con la linea de apt que hace poco comentaba Jaime Villate que ya estaba disponible. Al hacer el apt-get upgrade se han actualizado un monton (unos 17 MB), pero 10 paquetes se han quedado keep-back (entre ellos gnome-session, control-panel, y algunos mas). Como en dselect no veía nada raro, he marcado task-gnome-desktop y se me han seleccionado un monton más, claro, pero ya no ha quedado ningun paquete en keept-back ¿que es eso del keep-back? Al hacer un apt-get upgrade, si se acualiza un paquete que tiene dependencias nuevas de otro ¿no lo instala automaticamente? Para terminar, cuando salgan más versiones de Debian, ¿como afecta eso a las versiones de gnome que he montado de La Espiral? ¿Serán actualizadas por las de Debian, serán dejadas como local y tendré que actualizar a mano? Gracias y saludos. -- Andres Seco Hernandez, MCP ID 445900 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ctv.es/USERS/andressh GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/3A48C934 E61C 08A9 EBC8 12E4 F363 E359 EDAC BE0B 3A48 C934 -- Alamin GSM SMS Gateway - http://alamin.sourceforge.net Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org pgp1mgifZrSFo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Helix gnome control center freezes
Salve Seung-woo Nam, Has anyone had the same problem? me too :-( -- Paolo Pedaletti, Como, ITALYa www.fastflow.it/~paolop [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 4755831
Re: Helix gnome control center freezes
Seung-woo Nam wrote: Since I upgraded my Debian system from 2.2_rev0 to 2.2_rev2, all the Sawfish menus in Gnome control center wouldn't work (appearance, focus behaviour, etc.). When I click on any of those the window just freezes and doesn't show any contents of menus. I know Helix gnome is not a part of official Debian dist but since it happened after the upgrade, I was wandering ther's any conflict between Helix Gnome and new Debian. Has anyone had the same problem? I can't provide a solution but I've had the same problem. Try running the control center using strace. You'll probably see that it tries to find all kind of librep/rep-gtk related things. You need to fiddle around with that a little, I'm afraid (put some extra symbolic links in or so). Cheers, Remco.
Re: Helix gnome control center freezes
And Remco van de Meent [EMAIL PROTECTED] gave word to the following thoughts: I can't provide a solution but I've had the same problem. Try running the control center using strace. You'll probably see that it tries to find all kind of librep/rep-gtk related things. You need to fiddle around with that a little, I'm afraid (put some extra symbolic links in or so). Dunno if is the same problem as you guys are having, but I experienced severe trouble after installing potato and HelixGnome and trying to run the GNOME with my 'old' user configuration, had the control center freezing several times, didn't display desktop icons even if the files were installed and things like this... Those days I just backed up and then removed all my .gnome* configuration stuff in my $HOME and allowed GNOME to build a new configuration, and then I re-installed some configuration files out of the backed-up directories. Seems it was working fine, after... :) HTH, have a nice evening... Kris -- Kristian Rink [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 48874445 (Krishna)
Re: Helix gnome control center freezes
At Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:08:57 -0500, Seung-woo Nam wrote: Hi everyone: Since I upgraded my Debian system from 2.2_rev0 to 2.2_rev2, all the Sawfish menus in Gnome control center wouldn't work (appearance, focus behaviour, etc.). When I click on any of those the window just freezes and doesn't show any contents of menus. I know Helix gnome is not a part of official Debian dist but since it happened after the upgrade, I was wandering ther's any conflict between Helix Gnome and new Debian. Has anyone had the same problem? I had exactly the same problem. Running sawfish-capplet directly from a terminal ought to give you some insight in what is going wrong. In my case (a fresh install), rep was missing. 'apt-get install rep' solved my sawfish problems. HTH, j
Re: Helix gnome control center freezes
When I try to run gnomecc it crashes out of X and returns me to my KDM prompt. Is Gnome currently broken under Woody? == Steve Cooper (working for somebody else in Redmond, WA) Subject: Re: Helix gnome control center freezes Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:31:20 +0100 From: Paolo Pedaletti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Seung-woo Nam [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Salve Seung-woo Nam, Has anyone had the same problem? me too :-( -- Paolo Pedaletti, Como, ITALYa www.fastflow.it/~paolop [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 4755831
Helix gnome control center freezes
Hi everyone: Since I upgraded my Debian system from 2.2_rev0 to 2.2_rev2, all the Sawfish menus in Gnome control center wouldn't work (appearance, focus behaviour, etc.). When I click on any of those the window just freezes and doesn't show any contents of menus. I know Helix gnome is not a part of official Debian dist but since it happened after the upgrade, I was wandering ther's any conflict between Helix Gnome and new Debian. Has anyone had the same problem? Seung-woo Nam
Re: Switching between KDE Helix-Gnome
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: You don't need KDM in order to start KDE, nor do you need GDM to start GNOME. Either of these display managers will allow you to choose a session from a menu when you log in. If I understand you right, it is probably best to do completely without a display manager and instead use an .xsession file in my home directory from which I start the corresponding session. What script do I have to execute for starting Helix Gnome? The way I have it set up is that my ~/.xsession has an exec gnome-session in it. I use kdm. On log in, if I leave the session type at default then I go into gnome, if I choose kde2 then I go into kde2. Easy. Matthew -- Using intelligent power: RISC OS, Be OS, Debian Linux Enjoying computing.
Switching between KDE Helix-Gnome
Hello! How can I switch between KDE and Helix-Gnome when both are installed on the system? Unfortunately, I can not install gdm and kdm at the same time, so I'm not sure what to do. One solution might be to do without an X display manager entirely, but then I'm not sure whether I can still get the same Helix-Gnome session as before. A better solution would perhaps be to provide alternatives named x-display-manager and x-desktop-environment that would enable one to conveniently switch between both environments and still getting the display manager determined for each environment, so that there is a consistent lookfeel. That is, it would be nice if one could say update-alternatives --config x-desktop-environment and then, depending on the user's choice, x-display-manager would be set to either kdm or gdm. However, I'm not sure whether this can be done and whether this mailing list is the appropriate place for such suggestions (probably not, so I apologize). Anyway, thanks for taking your time. A Happy New Year to all Debian users around the world! Greetings, Holger
Re: Switching between KDE Helix-Gnome
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 01:15:27PM +0100, Holger Rauch wrote: How can I switch between KDE and Helix-Gnome when both are installed on the system? Unfortunately, I can not install gdm and kdm at the same time, so I'm not sure what to do. One solution might be to do without an X display manager entirely, but then I'm not sure whether I can still get the same Helix-Gnome session as before. A better solution would perhaps be to provide alternatives named x-display-manager and x-desktop-environment that would enable one to conveniently switch between both environments and still getting the display manager determined for each environment, so that there is a consistent lookfeel. That is, it would be nice if one could say You don't need KDM in order to start KDE, nor do you need GDM to start GNOME. Either of these display managers will allow you to choose a session from a menu when you log in. You merely need to select the appropriate session. If you don't have e.g. a KDE session in your GDM menu then you can add a script to /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions that calls startkde or kde2 or whatever command you run to log in. I'm not sure how to add a new session to the KDM menu, as I don't have KDM. HTH. noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html pgpwgeh2KwVkc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Switching between KDE Helix-Gnome
Hi Noah! Thanks a lot for your quick reply! On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: You don't need KDM in order to start KDE, nor do you need GDM to start GNOME. Either of these display managers will allow you to choose a session from a menu when you log in. If I understand you right, it is probably best to do completely without a display manager and instead use an .xsession file in my home directory from which I start the corresponding session. What script do I have to execute for starting Helix Gnome? Thanks! Greetings, Holger
Re: Switching between KDE Helix-Gnome
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 05:10:48PM +0100, Holger Rauch wrote: You don't need KDM in order to start KDE, nor do you need GDM to start GNOME. Either of these display managers will allow you to choose a session from a menu when you log in. If I understand you right, it is probably best to do completely without a display manager and instead use an .xsession file in my home directory from which I start the corresponding session. What script do I have to execute for starting Helix Gnome? No, not at all. That will work, of course. It will even work if you use a display manager. What I am saying is that both KDM and GDM provide a menu with which you can choose a session to run when you log in. Which display manager are you using? If you're using gdm, here's how to set things up: Create a script in /etc/X11/gdm called KDE. That script needs to contain nothing but the following #!/bin/sh exec /usr/bin/kde2 ## end of script. Don't forget to chmod +x the script. Now, when you log out, if you look at the sessions menu in gdm you'll see an option for KDE. If you select that option and log in, you'll be running KDE. If you leave the menu alone, you'll go to whatever you'd previously been using. All this stuff works system-wide. Using the same method you can easily create a session script for whatever window managers you have installed and easily switch between them when logging in. Doing this with KDM is, I'm sure, very similar. I can't give you specifics, though, as I don't use it. HTH, noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html pgpRxdDdBOCWp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Switching between KDE Helix-Gnome
On Saturday 30 December 2000 00:10, Holger Rauch wrote: Hi Noah! Thanks a lot for your quick reply! On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: You don't need KDM in order to start KDE, nor do you need GDM to start GNOME. Either of these display managers will allow you to choose a session from a menu when you log in. If I understand you right, it is probably best to do completely without a display manager and instead use an .xsession file in my home directory from which I start the corresponding session. What script do I have to execute for starting Helix Gnome? I think it's gnome-session. Try KDM, to add a session you just go as root to the appropriate dialog in kcontrol [System Login manager Sessions tab]. The session name is the name of the bash command you would use to invoke the window manager in question. Thus add xfce if you want to run xfce, icewm if you want to run icewm, and gnome-session for a gnome session. YMMV.
Re: helix gnome vs. woody gnome
+ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: packages? Are they as stable? Is there any strange behavior? Do they contain as many programs as are available in the Helix packages? What are the pros and cons of each? I switched over to a clean woody only system some days ago. I have to do some configuration but it works. I have to say, besides the (nicer) splash screens of helixcode the difference between HelixCode's and Debian packages are minimal. I switched back, because I had some trouble with dependencies due to my awfull mix of package sources. I now prefer the use of a clean woody system. Kai. -- ::: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.tu-ilmenau.de/~bond/ ::: for my pgp-key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (automated reply)
Re: Helix-gnome control center problems
I had this problem as well, you need to install the rep packages from helixcode manually for some reason they don't install with task-helix-gnome. Jamil For some reason, the gnome control center doesn't want me to configure any sawfish aspects. When I click on any of the sawfish configuration options, the left pane displays nothing, and eventually, the entire app freezes and has to be killed. Another thing I noticed is that the control center often thinks that Enlightenment is the default window manager, even though it is sawfish that is actually running. I don't know if this has anything to with the previous problem, but I thought I would mention it. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- P
Re: Helix-gnome control center problems
On Sat, 9 Dec 2000, Rob VanFleet wrote: For some reason, the gnome control center doesn't want me to configure any sawfish aspects. When I click on any of the sawfish configuration options, the left pane displays nothing, and eventually, the entire app freezes and has to be killed. Another thing I noticed is that the control center often thinks that Enlightenment is the default window manager, even though it is sawfish that is actually running. I don't know if this has anything to with the previous problem, but I thought I would mention it. Well, what I did was, set it to sawfish for a moment and then set it back to enlightenment that seemed to help a little for both problems. But I think we should report it as a bug. -Rob
Re: [SOLVED] Helix-gnome control center problems
On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:11:15AM +0100, Leen Besselink wrote: Well, what I did was, set it to sawfish for a moment and then set it back to enlightenment that seemed to help a little for both problems. But I think we should report it as a bug. The problem seemed to lie in the fact that librep9 wasn't installed with the rest of Helix. After I installed it, all the problems ceased. I would consider it an installation bug, since I actually used http://go-gnome.com to install it, using the full install option. -Rob
Helix-gnome control center problems
For some reason, the gnome control center doesn't want me to configure any sawfish aspects. When I click on any of the sawfish configuration options, the left pane displays nothing, and eventually, the entire app freezes and has to be killed. Another thing I noticed is that the control center often thinks that Enlightenment is the default window manager, even though it is sawfish that is actually running. I don't know if this has anything to with the previous problem, but I thought I would mention it. -Rob
Re: How do you remove Helix GNOME
This doesn't work because helix is in the version number, not the package name (except for about 3 packages). The matching seems only to match the package name. On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Juergen Fiedler wrote: apt-get takes regular expressions, so a 'apt-get --purge remove helix*' should nuke everything that has the string 'helix' in its name. Note that apt-get does a substring match with the package name, so 'helix*' will be matched no matter where in the name it is. Also note, that you need the quotes around 'helix*', so you the asterisk i doesn't get eaten by bash. HTH, j On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 01:14:04PM -0500, Scott Patterson wrote: I'm interested in following the Woody releases of GNOME instead of Helix Code's. Problem is, how do I remove ALL the Helix Code packages. Seeing they all have helix in their package name, a simple script should easily do this. Too bad I'm not that familiar with dpkg and apt. Going manually through each package is not preferable! Scott -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
helix gnome vs. woody gnome
About a month ago when installing a new system, I tried installing the Gnome that comes with Woody (I've been using Helix Gnome on other systems). I saw some strange behavior, but perhaps it was because I didn't have a lot of suggested packages installed at the time. And, although a trivial thing, the login pics were much better looking in the Helix packages. Anyway, I thought maybe I should go back to the Debian packages as I assume they conform more to Debian standards. My question is to those that have used both, will I be missing anything if I go back to the Debian packages? Are they as stable? Is there any strange behavior? Do they contain as many programs as are available in the Helix packages? What are the pros and cons of each? Thanks, Gerry
How do you remove Helix GNOME
I'm interested in following the Woody releases of GNOME instead of Helix Code's. Problem is, how do I remove ALL the Helix Code packages. Seeing they all have helix in their package name, a simple script should easily do this. Too bad I'm not that familiar with dpkg and apt. Going manually through each package is not preferable! Scott
Re: How do you remove Helix GNOME
apt-get takes regular expressions, so a 'apt-get --purge remove helix*' should nuke everything that has the string 'helix' in its name. Note that apt-get does a substring match with the package name, so 'helix*' will be matched no matter where in the name it is. Also note, that you need the quotes around 'helix*', so you the asterisk i doesn't get eaten by bash. HTH, j On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 01:14:04PM -0500, Scott Patterson wrote: I'm interested in following the Woody releases of GNOME instead of Helix Code's. Problem is, how do I remove ALL the Helix Code packages. Seeing they all have helix in their package name, a simple script should easily do this. Too bad I'm not that familiar with dpkg and apt. Going manually through each package is not preferable! Scott -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Helix Gnome
Hi! Should I deinstall Gnome in order to install Helix Gnome in a Debian 2.2 machine? Thanks in advance Marcelo _ Marcelo Chiapparini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Helix Gnome
You don't need to. On approximately Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 10:35:22AM -0500, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hi! Should I deinstall Gnome in order to install Helix Gnome in a Debian 2.2 machine? Thanks in advance Marcelo _ Marcelo Chiapparini [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Helix-Gnome not installable
Since the problem is a conflict between Helix and Debian versions of some libraries, perhaps you can temporarily comment out the Debian lines in your sources.list, do an apt-get update and then try apt-get install task-helix-gnome. Don´t forget to fix your sources.list afterwards or you won´t be able to keep your Woody current on an hourly basis! Also, you might need to avoid installing the Debian versions afterwards, just by being careful with apt-get upgrade. Another possibility, which I normally use, is to just wait for the Helix guys to catch up. (and they used to say that Debian was slow to provide current versions of packages). On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 09:55:07PM -0500, Joel Dinel wrote: I can't seem to install Helix Gnome on my woody box. dimmu:~# apt-get install task-helix-gnome Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. ...
Re: Helix-Gnome not installable
Sometime this morning, Helix made new packages available. I´ll bet it all works OK now, so ignore my earlier post. On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 09:55:07PM -0500, Joel Dinel wrote: I can't seem to install Helix Gnome on my woody box. dimmu:~# apt-get install task-helix-gnome Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming.
Helix-Gnome not installable
I can't seem to install Helix Gnome on my woody box. dimmu:~# apt-get install task-helix-gnome Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: task-helix-gnome: Depends: task-helix-core but it is not going to be installedE: Sorry, broken packages So I apt-get install task-helix-core. I get the same message, but wirh sawfish-gnome. I install sawfush-gnome, now I get this same message about rep-gtk-gnome. This goes on and on through more packages until : dimmu:~# apt-get install libgdk-pixbuf2 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Sorry, libgdk-pixbuf2 is already the newest version So it comes down to this. Apt complains about dependencies until it gets down to the 'core' package, which is already installed. I did try removing in, and reinstalling it to no avail. Has anybody else encountered this? Is there woody boxes out there running Helix?! Thanks! -- Joel Dinel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Helix-Gnome not installable
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joel Dinel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ dependancy problem elided ] Has anybody else encountered this? Is there woody boxes out there running Helix?! I see this also, but I've already got a working install of Helix Gnome, so it's not a big deal...for me. Can't offer any advice as to how to get it to work, but thought I'd let you know it's not just you. Perhaps give it a day or two and the maintainers will fix it? Good luck, john. - -- - [ John S Jacobs Anderson ]--URL:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Genehack: Not your daddy's weblog ]--URL:http://genehack.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Mailcrypt 3.5.5 and Gnu Privacy Guard iD8DBQE6D1p2WRJRdOm3KFARAjV1AJkBrhVd5n5Qp8KnzOilAuZje4NBpACbBt/5 ODUYFMmHi1iHnpJ7KDUupdE= =+8zH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Helix-Gnome not installable
So I apt-get install task-helix-core. I get the same message, but wirh sawfish-gnome. I install sawfush-gnome, now I get this same message about rep-gtk-gnome. This goes on and on through more packages until : dimmu:~# apt-get install libgdk-pixbuf2 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Sorry, libgdk-pixbuf2 is already the newest version So it comes down to this. Apt complains about dependencies until it gets down to the 'core' package, which is already installed. I did try removing in, and reinstalling it to no avail. Has anybody else encountered this? Is there woody boxes out there running Helix?! I do run helix gome since a while. Recently, sawfish was uninstalled in favor of sawfish. Try installing sawfish without gnome. HTH -- Christoph Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ^X^C q quit :q ^C end x exit ZZ ^D ? help shit .
Re: Helix-Gnome not installable
On Sun, 12 Nov 2000, Joel Dinel wrote: I can't seem to install Helix Gnome on my woody box. Thats an interesting apt quirk, just list all the packages at once: auric{jgg}~/apt2/build/bin#./apt-get install task-helix-gnome task-helix-core sawfish-gnome rep-gtk-gnome libgdk-pixbuf-gnome2 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: libgdk-pixbuf-gnome2: Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2 (= 0.9.0-0.2) but 0.9.0-helix5 is to be installed rep-gtk-gnome: Depends: rep-gtk (= 0.14-1) but 0.14-helix2 is to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages Tada. This appears to be because the helix folks are mixing and matching libraries from debian and them. they were supposed to be using the debian versions :| For instance if I use the new APT I can resolve this.. auric{jgg}~/apt2/build/bin#./apt-get install task-helix-gnome libgdk-pixbuf2=o=debian rep-gtk=o=debian Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Selected version 0.9.0-0.2 (Debian:unstable) for libgdk-pixbuf2 Selected version 0.14-1 (Debian:unstable) for rep-gtk [..] 22 packages upgraded, 100 newly installed, 1 to remove and 238 not upgraded. Need to get 38.1MB/61.9MB of archives. After unpacking 123MB will be used. By picking the Debian versions of the problem libraries.. Jason
Re: Can't install Helix Gnome
I havn't been able to install Helix-Gnome in a while ... (snip) Strange, I never had a probem with potato. Is this your sources.list line for helix? deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian woody main -- I did not vote for the Austrian government Linux: The choice of a GNU generation. Visit http://www.gnu.org/
Re: Can't install Helix Gnome
On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 06:03:37PM +, Greg Gilbert wrote: Sounds like someone disobeyed the XFree86 maintainer when he said not to build packages against the beta packages of XFree86 4. They are on www.debian.org/~branden if you are willing to upgrade. If you don't want to upgrade, you can just try and get the stuff you need for gnome manually. Aahhh that would explain it. I don't have any objections to upgrading to Xfree86 4.X. Is there a nice line I can add to my sources.list? Joel Dinel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't install Helix Gnome
The biggest issue is whether your videocard is support. Not everything supported in 3.3.6 is working in 4.0.1. Check at www.xfree86.org. If you have an nvidia, matrox, 3dfx, or ati videocard you should be fine. I'm not near my machine right now, but you can get the sources line from www.debian.org/~branden. Greg * Joel Dinel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 06:03:37PM +, Greg Gilbert wrote: Sounds like someone disobeyed the XFree86 maintainer when he said not to build packages against the beta packages of XFree86 4. They are on www.debian.org/~branden if you are willing to upgrade. If you don't want to upgrade, you can just try and get the stuff you need for gnome manually. Aahhh that would explain it. I don't have any objections to upgrading to Xfree86 4.X. Is there a nice line I can add to my sources.list? Joel Dinel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't install Helix Gnome
Joel Dinel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JD On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 06:03:37PM +, Greg Gilbert wrote: GG Sounds like someone disobeyed the XFree86 maintainer when he said GG not to build packages against the beta packages of XFree86 4. They GG are on www.debian.org/~branden if you are willing to upgrade. If you GG don't want to upgrade, you can just try and get the stuff you need GG for gnome manually. GG JD JD Aahhh that would explain it. I don't have any objections to JD upgrading to Xfree86 4.X. Is there a nice line I can add to my JD sources.list? According to debian-devel-changes, it's now in unstable, which means it's now only somewhat broken (according to the changelog) as opposed to completely unreliable (according to Branden's Web page). The upshot of this is that you don't actually need to add anything to your sources.list. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mit.edu/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell
Can't install Helix Gnome
I havn't been able to install Helix-Gnome in a while ... apt-get install task-helix-gnome - SNIP SNIP - Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: task-helix-gnome: Depends: task-helix-core but it is not going to be installedE: Sorry, broken packages Ok ... so : apt-get install task-helix-core - SNIP SNIP - Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: task-helix-core: Depends: grdb but it is not going to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages Er ... dimmu:~# apt-get install grdb - SNIP SNIP - Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: grdb: Depends: xlibs (= 4.0.1-0) but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages Wise guy, huh ? dimmu:~# apt-get install xlibs - SNIP SNIP - Package xlibs has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list E: Package xlibs has no installation candidate Ok. The Debian package page says XLIBS doesn't exist. How do I get Helix Gnome now ? Thanks ! -- Joel Dinel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't install Helix Gnome
Sounds like someone disobeyed the XFree86 maintainer when he said not to build packages against the beta packages of XFree86 4. They are on www.debian.org/~branden if you are willing to upgrade. If you don't want to upgrade, you can just try and get the stuff you need for gnome manually. Greg * Joel Dinel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I havn't been able to install Helix-Gnome in a while ... apt-get install task-helix-gnome - SNIP SNIP - Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: task-helix-gnome: Depends: task-helix-core but it is not going to be installedE: Sorry, broken packages Ok ... so : apt-get install task-helix-core - SNIP SNIP - Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: task-helix-core: Depends: grdb but it is not going to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages Er ... dimmu:~# apt-get install grdb - SNIP SNIP - Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: grdb: Depends: xlibs (= 4.0.1-0) but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages Wise guy, huh ? dimmu:~# apt-get install xlibs - SNIP SNIP - Package xlibs has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list E: Package xlibs has no installation candidate Ok. The Debian package page says XLIBS doesn't exist. How do I get Helix Gnome now ? Thanks ! -- Joel Dinel [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Mensaje de aviso en Helix Gnome
Hola, resulta que, tras instalarme el Helix Gnome en potato (paquetes de La Espiral), tengo el .xsession-errors inundado con el siguiente mensaje: Gtk-WARNING **: Imposible de encontrar un módulo cargable en module_path: libthinice.so, ¿Alguien sabe de qué va? He hecho un dpkg -l libthin y apt-cache search libthin y ni flowers. La verdad, el mensaje resulta molesto y no encuentro esta librería por ningún sitio. ¿Alguna pista? Gracias. Saludos, JUAN CARLOS AMENGUALDaddy says Don't tell Mama what I did to you UNIVERSIDAD JAUME I Daddy says If you do I'll beat you DEPARTAMENTO DE INFORMÁTICA black-and-blue CAMPUS DE RIU SEC, EDIFICIO TI Amelia, You make Daddy feel like a man CASTELLON, 12071. SPAIN.Amelia, Daddy loves you more than Mummy can Phone: +34 964 728361 Daddy, tell me, Daddy, Fax: +34 964 728435 how can you call this love? e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amelia, Damn your Daddy to hell! Wayne Hussey (The Mission) - Amelia, Carved in Sand, 1990, Phonogram -
Re: Mensaje de aviso en Helix Gnome
On lun, oct 23, 2000 at 09:23:34 +0200, Juan C. Amengual wrote: resulta que, tras instalarme el Helix Gnome en potato (paquetes de La Espiral), tengo el .xsession-errors inundado con el siguiente mensaje: Gtk-WARNING **: Imposible de encontrar un módulo cargable en module_path: libthinice.so, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dpkg -S libthinice gtk-engines-thinice: /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/libthinice.so Ya lo sabes, te falta el paquete gtk-engines-thinice que es el tema de escritorio GTK+ Thinice que tengo yo :) ¿Alguien sabe de qué va? He hecho un dpkg -l libthin y apt-cache ~~~ '*libthin*' mejor, tal com lo pones tu, el paquete ha de llamarse libthin literalmente y no contener la cadena de caracteres libthin como creo que pretendías. Saludos. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webs: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/viguPersonal PGP public key: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/vigu/vigu.pubkey
Re: Helix gnome para potato
Juan C. Amengual wrote: Para quien le interese, ésta es la línea que hay que añadir en el fichero /etc/apt/sources.list (caso que actualice via apt a través de ftp o http): deb http://quark.fe.up.pt/debian potato/local helixcode ¡Ya funciona nuevamente! después de un par de dias off-line. Si queréis experimentar otros de los paquetes que hemos recopilado en La Espiral, usad las siguientes líneas en el sources.list: deb http://quark.fe.up.pt/debian potato/local kde (KDE 2 beta3, para instalar en potato) deb http://quark.fe.up.pt/debian potato/local evolution (Evolution para potato) deb http://quark.fe.up.pt/debian potato/local extras (postgresql 7, ghostscript 6 y otros) deb http://quark.fe.up.pt/debian woody/local xfree4 (Xfree 4.0 que se puede instalar en potato, a pesar de su nombre) Saludos, Jaime Villate proyecto La Espiral http://laespiral.org
helix gnome WindowMaker
Hello, After an upgrade (and a reboot) I have problems running WindowMaker under Helix Gnome. Gnome complains saying running a non gnome compliant windowmanger and WindowMaker does not start and I can't use Gnome either. I have to delete my .gnome directory so that the sawfish windowmanager is being used. Anybody else noticed this problem? Greetings, Stefan Goeman -- * SIEMENS ATEA NV * * * * ICN D NC A: * *Ir. Stefan Goeman * *Tel: +32 14 253020* *e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * P.S.: Linux is great!! *
Re: helix gnome WindowMaker
Hi Stefan, On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, stefan goeman wrote: Hello, After an upgrade (and a reboot) I have problems running WindowMaker under Helix Gnome. Gnome complains saying running a non gnome compliant windowmanger and WindowMaker does not start and I can't use Gnome either. I have to delete my .gnome directory so that the sawfish windowmanager is being used. Anybody else noticed this problem? Sort of. Upgrading wm-properties-capplet to version 1.2.2 has caused helix-gnome to fail when it's loading from gdm manager. I've posted a bug report with helix about it. Gord
Re: Helix gnome para potato
Carles Pina i Estany wrote: Hola estoy considerando muy seriamente la posibilidad de instalar Helix Gnome . ¿existen paquetes www.laespiral.org gracias a miquel que creo que corre por aquí! ... y gracias a tí por indicármelo ... El caso es que me sonaba que alguien (seguramente tú) comentó hace algún tiempo en la lista la existencia de dichos paquetes ... Mis disculpas, debería haber buscado antes en los archivos de la lista. Para quien le interese, ésta es la línea que hay que añadir en el fichero /etc/apt/sources.list (caso que actualice via apt a través de ftp o http): deb http://quark.fe.up.pt/debian potato/local helixcode Por cierto ... ¡está de muerte, abuela! ;-) Saludos, JUAN CARLOS AMENGUALDaylight licked me into shape, UNIVERSIDAD JAUME I I must have been asleep for days DEPARTAMENTO DE INFORMÁTICA and moving lips to breathe her name, CAMPUS DE RIU SEC, EDIFICIO TI I opened up my eyes CASTELLON, 12071. SPAIN.and found myself alone, alone Phone: +34 964 728361 alone above a raging sea Fax: +34 964 728435 that stole the only girl I loved e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and drowned her deep inside of me. Robert Smith (The Cure) - Just like Heaven, Kiss me, Kiss me, Kiss me, 1987, Fiction Rec. -
Re: Helix gnome para potato
Hola. Aprobecho para hacer algunas preguntas al respecto. ¿Cómo está el tema de 'libertad' del software Gnome y lo relacionado con él? No sé de qué me suena, pero hace tiempo me pareció oir que se iba a tirar hacia el uso de activeX y movidas de esas que le ponen a uno la carne de gallina sólo oirlas (a mi nada más pensar en el tipo ese de gafas que responde al nombre de 'gates'...). ¿Hay algo de cierto en eso? Me gustaría pensar (que alguien de vosotros) que puedo seguir durmiendo con la tranquilidad de que Gnome (y lo mismo Helix Gnome) seguirá siendo software libre (GNU¿?) Saludos: Juan Carlos Muro Juan C. Amengual wrote: Hola penya, (es femenino y lo suficientemente genérico como para no herir susceptibilidades ;-) estoy considerando muy seriamente la posibilidad de instalar Helix Gnome en una de las máquinas que cae bajo mis dominios aquí en la universidad. Lo que pasa es que esta máquina es de producción y prefiero no arriesgarme con unstable (recordad sin ir más lejos lo que pasa cuando se actualizan cosas como glibc). Al grano, ¿existen paquetes potato de helix gnome que machaquen el gnome-a-secas de potato? Sé que en el FTP de helix gnome (el spidermonkey ése) hay paquetes .deb, pero son para woody y prefiero no arriesgarme (ya sabéis, tema dependencias). Muchas gracias por vuestra atención.
Re: Helix gnome para potato
Juan C. Amengual wrote: Para quien le interese, ésta es la línea que hay que añadir en el fichero /etc/apt/sources.list (caso que actualice via apt a través de ftp o http): deb http://quark.fe.up.pt/debian potato/local helixcode Por cierto ... ¡está de muerte, abuela! ;-) Gracias; pero desafortunadamente quark ha quedado fuera de la red hoy al médio día (nuestra universidad se ha trasteado a otro lugar) y solo podré ponerlo on-line en unos dos días. Así que tened paciencia que quark regresará uno de estos dias, y quedará mas rápido que lo que estaba. Jaime
Re: Helix gnome para potato
On mié, oct 18, 2000 at 11:19:39 +0200, Juan Carlos Muro wrote: ¿Cómo está el tema de 'libertad' del software Gnome y lo relacionado con él? No sé de qué me suena, pero hace tiempo me pareció oir que se iba a tirar hacia el uso de activeX y movidas de esas que le ponen a uno la carne de gallina sólo oirlas (a mi nada más pensar en el tipo ese de gafas que responde al nombre de 'gates'...). ¿Hay algo de cierto en eso? Me gustaría pensar (que alguien de vosotros) que puedo seguir durmiendo con la tranquilidad de que Gnome (y lo mismo Helix Gnome) seguirá siendo software libre (GNU¿?) Habiendo hablado en persona con Miguel del tema de la importancia de hacer software libre a toda costa tendría que haberse dado un fuerte golpe en la cabeza para que GNOME cambiara tan radicalmente el rumbo. GNOME es GPL, es decir software libre con efecto virus ;-) -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webs: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/viguPersonal PGP public key: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/vigu/vigu.pubkey
Re: Helix gnome para potato
At 11:19 p.m. 2000-10-18 +0200, Juan Carlos Muro wrote: Hola. Aprobecho para hacer algunas preguntas al respecto. ¿Cómo está el tema de 'libertad' del software Gnome y lo relacionado con él? No sé de qué me suena, pero hace tiempo me pareció oir que se iba a tirar hacia el uso de activeX y movidas de esas que le ponen a uno la carne de gallina sólo oirlas (a mi nada más pensar en el tipo ese de gafas que responde al nombre de 'gates'...). ¿Hay algo de cierto en eso? Me gustaría pensar (que alguien de vosotros) que puedo seguir durmiendo con la tranquilidad de que Gnome (y lo mismo Helix Gnome) seguirá siendo software libre (GNU¿?) ActiveX? Te refieres acaso a componentes reusables? Si es eso, pues si, se está trabajando activamente en eso. Bonobo (que se basa en CORBA), es quien hace el truco. KDE2 tiene algo parecido, la gran diferencia es que ellos se inventaron su manera para lograr lo mismo que CORBA, pero sin ser CORBA. Ventajas: posiblemente sea más rápido y sencillo de programar. Desventajas: incompatible, nadie más que KDE usa esa interface. -- Ugo Enrico Albarello López de Mesa A proud Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 User http://members.xoom.com/ugo_linux/ Linux Registered User #52657
Helix gnome para potato
Hola penya, (es femenino y lo suficientemente genérico como para no herir susceptibilidades ;-) estoy considerando muy seriamente la posibilidad de instalar Helix Gnome en una de las máquinas que cae bajo mis dominios aquí en la universidad. Lo que pasa es que esta máquina es de producción y prefiero no arriesgarme con unstable (recordad sin ir más lejos lo que pasa cuando se actualizan cosas como glibc). Al grano, ¿existen paquetes potato de helix gnome que machaquen el gnome-a-secas de potato? Sé que en el FTP de helix gnome (el spidermonkey ése) hay paquetes .deb, pero son para woody y prefiero no arriesgarme (ya sabéis, tema dependencias). Muchas gracias por vuestra atención. Saludos, JUAN CARLOS AMENGUALNothing but the knife to live for UNIVERSIDAD JAUME I One life all I need DEPARTAMENTO DE INFORMÁTICA Give me one good reason CAMPUS DE RIU SEC, EDIFICIO TI Give me more s. CASTELLON, 12071. SPAIN.Amphetamine logic!!! Phone: +34 964 728361 Andrew Eldritch (The Sisters of Mercy) Fax: +34 964 728435 - Amphetamine Logic, First and Last and e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Always, 1985, WEA Rec. -
RE: Helix gnome para potato
Si te sirve de algo Yo tengo el Helix corriendo en Potato, sin problemas y lo actualice directamente del sitio de gnome Angel Claudio Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gcia de Tecnología Banco Credicoop C.L. +54(11)4891-5970 -Mensaje original- De: Juan C. Amengual [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: Martes 17 de Octubre de 2000 14:52 Para: Lista Linux Debian Asunto: Helix gnome para potato Hola penya, (es femenino y lo suficientemente genérico como para no herir susceptibilidades ;-) estoy considerando muy seriamente la posibilidad de instalar Helix Gnome en una de las máquinas que cae bajo mis dominios aquí en la universidad. Lo que pasa es que esta máquina es de producción y prefiero no arriesgarme con unstable (recordad sin ir más lejos lo que pasa cuando se actualizan cosas como glibc). Al grano, ¿existen paquetes potato de helix gnome que machaquen el gnome-a-secas de potato? Sé que en el FTP de helix gnome (el spidermonkey ése) hay paquetes .deb, pero son para woody y prefiero no arriesgarme (ya sabéis, tema dependencias). Muchas gracias por vuestra atención. Saludos, JUAN CARLOS AMENGUALNothing but the knife to live for UNIVERSIDAD JAUME I One life all I need DEPARTAMENTO DE INFORMÁTICA Give me one good reason CAMPUS DE RIU SEC, EDIFICIO TI Give me more s. CASTELLON, 12071. SPAIN.Amphetamine logic!!! Phone: +34 964 728361 Andrew Eldritch (The Sisters of Mercy) Fax: +34 964 728435 - Amphetamine Logic, First and Last and e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Always, 1985, WEA Rec. - -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null [Atención:Este mensaje proviene de Internet - Por favor recuerde que no es posible asegurar que quien lo envía sea realmente quien figura en el mensaje.] [Nota: La información contenida en el presente correo y en los archivos adjuntos puede ser confidencial. Si no es el receptor pretendido, o el responsable de entregar este mensaje, le notificamos por este medio que está prohibida su copia, distribución, retención o uso de la información que contiene. Asimismo, rogamos notifique al emisor reenviando este mensaje en forma inmediata, y elimine el mismo de su computadora]
Re: Helix gnome para potato
Hola estoy considerando muy seriamente la posibilidad de instalar Helix Gnome en una de las máquinas que cae bajo mis dominios aquí en la universidad. Lo que pasa es que esta máquina es de producción y prefiero no arriesgarme con unstable (recordad sin ir más lejos lo que pasa cuando se actualizan cosas como glibc). Al grano, ¿existen paquetes www.laespiral.org gracias a miquel que creo que corre por aquí! hasta pronto Carles Pina i Estany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || #ICQ: 14446118 || Nick: Teufeus / Pine URL: http://www.salleurl.edu/~is08139 Windows95 está colgando su sistema. Por favor, espere...
Re-enabling Debian menus in Helix GNOME foot menu
Here's something it took me a while to figure out. To enable the Debian menu hierarchy in Helix GNOME, you have to go into the GNOME Control Center (under Programs|Settings) and on the Menu tab in the Global Menu box enable Distribution either in the menu or in a submenu. Thomas Hood
Menu editor crashes in Helix GNOME
I find that the menu editor dies when one attempts to edit any user menu with the latest Helix version. The system is Helix + up-to-date Potato. Has anyone else seen this and/or know a fix? TIA, --Martin
Re: Re-enabling Debian menus in Helix GNOME foot menu
+ Thomas Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To enable the Debian menu hierarchy in Helix GNOME, you have to go into the GNOME Control Center (under Any idea how to get the debian-menu back into the sawfish applications-menu which pops up when I press middle mouse button? It was gone some versions of Helix's sawfish package before. Till now, I could not find a way to get it back. -- + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + http://www.tu-ilmenau.de/~bond/
Re: Menu editor crashes in Helix GNOME
Me too. I reported to gnome as a bug. Martin Weinberg wrote: I find that the menu editor dies when one attempts to edit any user menu with the latest Helix version. The system is Helix + up-to-date Potato. Has anyone else seen this and/or know a fix? TIA, --Martin -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null begin:vcard n:Black;Richard tel;fax:416-971-4159 tel;home: tel;work:416-217-4350 x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:Algorithmics Inc adr:;;185 Spadina Avenue;Toronto;Ontario;M5T 2C6;Canada version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Financial Engineer x-mozilla-cpt:;-18400 fn:Richard Black end:vcard
Re: Menu editor crashes in Helix GNOME
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Martin Weinberg wrote: Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:51:53 -0400 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org From: Martin Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Menu editor crashes in Helix GNOME I find that the menu editor dies when one attempts to edit any user menu with the latest Helix version. The system is Helix + up-to-date Potato. Has anyone else seen this and/or know a fix? TIA, --Martin -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null I had this problem for a few days a while back. Another 'apt-get upgrade' fixed the problem. Unfortunately I am not sure exactly what package caused/fixed the problem (it's hard to keep track at the rate they are cranking them out ;-). jt
Helix GNOME and Debian GNOME incompatible
Hi folks, hi Peter, I just had sawfish malfunction in a strange way: I've bound M-F10 to Popup Window Menu. But that suddenly stopped working... and worse, even clicking into the window icon for the popup window did nothing. So I investigated... reinstalling a couple things. And, this morning, I found it: there were updated packages for the Debian version of the rep lisp interpreter which sawfish is built on. Now I had rep from Debian and sawfish from helix (the Debian upgrade is not installable yet). I removed all sawfish and rep packages, and installed the helix versions only... and everything's back to normal. HTHS, Bye, J PS: Peter, could you get the name change of the Helix packages done some time soon? Would have avoided this... PPS: Another thing that failed was when clicking on any sawfish item in the GNOME CC the capplet hung (using up all CPU it got). PPPS: More details on request... -- Jürgen A. Erhard[EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (GERMANY) 0721 27326 My WebHome: http://members.tripod.com/Juergen_Erhard Mesa - Free OpenGL API (http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~brianp/Mesa.html) No matter how cynical I get, I can't keep up. -- Bruce Schneier pgphGOCNzMTmA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Helix gnome on debian 2.2....
use >apt-get install task-helix-gnome after you set up your sources.list file. The install instructions at http://www.helixcode.com are very good. I installed helix-gnome from fvwm2 without a hitch (I did have to restart my potato box though) but since then I have hosed sawmill but I think that this is a seperate issue. Rus wrote: Hi, an introduction.. my name's Rus.. I've been using RedHat for a bit.. and now I'm making the jump to debs.. :-)Anyways... I'm just wondering if their is anything I should know about installing Helix gnome on top of Debian 2.2? I don't just want to 'upgrade what ive got'.. I'd also like all the new programs/utilities/etc. that make up the Helix install...Also would i be correct in saying that I shouldn't have gnome running while I download and install?I dunno.. I just don't want to kill of my Debian install.. whilse also being able to have the funky looking verison of gnome that my RedHat mate has!! :-)Anyways, thankyou very much for you time,Rus
Helix gnome on debian 2.2....
Hi, an introduction.. my name's Rus.. I've been using RedHat for a bit.. and now I'm making the jump to debs.. :-) Anyways... I'm just wondering if their is anything I should know about installing Helix gnome on top of Debian 2.2? I don't just want to 'upgrade what ive got'.. I'd also like all the new programs/utilities/etc. that make up the Helix install... Also would i be correct in saying that I shouldn't have gnome running while I download and install? I dunno.. I just don't want to kill of my Debian install.. whilse also being able to have the funky looking verison of gnome that my RedHat mate has!! :-) Anyways, thankyou very much for you time, Rus
Re: Helix gnome on debian 2.2....
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 07:20:49AM +0100 or thereabouts, Rus wrote: Hi, an introduction.. my name's Rus.. I've been using RedHat for a bit.. and now I'm making the jump to debs.. :-) Anyways... I'm just wondering if their is anything I should know about installing Helix gnome on top of Debian 2.2? I don't just want to 'upgrade what ive got'.. I'd also like all the new programs/utilities/etc. that make up the Helix install... Also would i be correct in saying that I shouldn't have gnome running while I download and install? I dunno.. I just don't want to kill of my Debian install.. whilse also being able to have the funky looking verison of gnome that my RedHat mate has!! :-) Anyways, thankyou very much for you time, Rus you need this in your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian woody main then do: 1. apt-get update 2. apt-get install task-helix-gnome 3. make coffee 4. sit back and watch doing this in console is better since you need to restart your X when it's done. -- Who's watching the watchmen? ICQ: 15096825
RE: what is Helix-Gnome?
When I installed Helix, it asked what I wanted installed. I chose not to install the games. And it did just that. On 17 Sep 00, at 18:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Pollywog wrote: This Helix-Gnome thing is very nice, but I wish I could get rid of the games and stuff I don't use. I will have to suggest this to the developers. Uhh.. So why not just purge the games along with task-helix-gnome? Problem solved. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Todd Witter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what is Helix-Gnome?
I see many posts about Helix-Gnome but I can't seem to find it anywhere? What is so good about it and where can I get it? thanks -- Andrew
Re: what is Helix-Gnome?
On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Pollywog wrote: I see many posts about Helix-Gnome but I can't seem to find it anywhere? What is so good about it and where can I get it? http://www.helixcode.com/
Re: what is Helix-Gnome?
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 08:26:53PM +, Pollywog wrote: I see many posts about Helix-Gnome but I can't seem to find it anywhere? What is so good about it and where can I get it? see http://www.helixcode.com. Helix Code packages GNOME for many distributions (also for Debian Potato/Woody). Furthermore it helps developing GNOME applications, e.g.: Evolution. -moritz -- /* Moritz Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/ * PGP-Key available, encrypted Mail is welcome. */