Letras grandes en helix-gnome sonido

2002-02-15 Thread Jan
Buenas!!
Por fin he conseguido configurar mi ADSL!!gracias a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bueno, ahora tengo dos problemillas, el primero es que me instale
Helix-Gnome del CD 1.0 de La Espiral, pero las letras o fuentes o como
se quiera decir, son enormes!he intentado configurar por ahi algunas
cosillas, pero es que no encuentro nada para que las fuentes sean mas
pequeñas...porque cada ventana me ocupa dos veces el monitor...

Y el otro problema es que configure la tarjeta de sonido con alsaconf,
seleccione mi tarjeta, ya tenia los modulos intalados, y puse una
cancion en el XMMS y lo que ocurre es que hasta que no acaba la cancion
se bloquea todo y no va nada! despues cuando acaba la cancion ya vuelve
a ir todo...pense que podria ser por el XMMS pero con el FreeAmp tambien
paso... podria ser porque en alsaconf en las 4 ventanas de configuracion
puse 128 en los valores que me pedia?

Siento preguntar tanto... muchas gracias :)
Saludetes



Helix Gnome

2002-01-16 Thread Aldous B Bernardo
I have a Libranet(1.82) cd and I wish to use the Helix gnome packages in it. I 
noticed that it is for woody ( or what I see in the directory structure). I 
tried one package to see if it will work. I tried grip and it needs libgtk... ( 
that's all I remember) anyway, I have this 1.2.0 while it says it needs 
1.2-helix. I tried to force it into installing but It failed. Is it possible to 
install the packages from helix into my Potato system? if yes -how?

Aldous



helix gnome vs sid (apt problem)

2001-06-24 Thread ocorrain
I seem to have screwed up my system by changing apt-lines from
helix-gnome to sid, and partially de-installing gnome. Now, whenever I
try to apt-get install anything, I get the following. Can anyone help?

aurelius:/home/ocorrain# apt-get install kppp
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libgnome32: Depends: gnome-libs-data (= 1.2.13-4) but
  1.2.11-ximian.1 is to be installed
  libgnomesupport0: Depends: gnome-libs-data (= 1.2.13-4) but
  1.2.11-ximian.1 is to be installed
  libgnomeui32: Depends: gnome-libs-data (= 1.2.13-4) but
  1.2.11-ximian.1 is to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or
specify a solution).

Trying... 

aurelius:/home/ocorrain# apt-get -f install
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  gnome-libs-data
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 582 not
upgraded.
4 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/294kB of archives. After unpacking 511kB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
(Reading database ... 94769 files and directories currently
installed.)
Preparing to replace gnome-libs-data 1.2.11-ximian.1 (using
.../gnome-libs-data_1.2.13-8_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement gnome-libs-data ...
dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-libs-data_1.2.13-8_all.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/idl/name-service.idl', which is also
 in package libgnorba27
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-libs-data_1.2.13-8_all.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Can anyone help?

Tiarnan



Re: helix-gnome para potato en woody

2001-06-02 Thread Alvaro Alea
BUENOS DIAS!!!
Y entonces, va Bladecoder y dice ¿helix-gnome para potato en woody? 

 Hola,
 He visto en la web de helix que no dan soporte para woody e invitan a
 los usuarios de woody a que usen los paquetes para potato. Alguien lo ha
 hecho??
 Da problemas instalar los paquetes de potato de helix (en el sources
 cambiar woody por stable) en una woody???

Puede que gnomeprint y los paquetes asociados te den problemas, por que los
de woody son una version superior, pero ximian necesita los suyos, yo lo
solucione desde el dselect diciendole que mantenga los packetes (tecla =) no
se como hacer lo mismo con apt.

aparte de eso funciona bastante bien.

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helix-gnome para potato en woody

2001-06-01 Thread Bladecoder
Hola,

He visto en la web de helix que no dan soporte para woody e invitan a
los usuarios de woody a que usen los paquetes para potato. Alguien lo ha
hecho??

Da problemas instalar los paquetes de potato de helix (en el sources
cambiar woody por stable) en una woody???

Saludos,

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Re: helix-gnome para potato en woody

2001-06-01 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On 01 Jun 2001 15:37:33 +0200, Bladecoder wrote:
 Hola,
 
 He visto en la web de helix que no dan soporte para woody e invitan a
 los usuarios de woody a que usen los paquetes para potato. Alguien lo ha
 hecho??
 
 Da problemas instalar los paquetes de potato de helix (en el sources
 cambiar woody por stable) en una woody???
 
no, funcionan perfectamente en woody. simplemente tienes que cambiar woody por
stable.

saludos
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problema con Helix Gnome 1.4

2001-05-08 Thread Eduardo Rodriguez Barrera
Hola a todos:

Estoy intentando instalar Helix Gnome 1.4, en una potato 2.2r3
usando apt-get, tal y como se explica en el web de ximian. El caso es
que modifico el fichero /etc/apt/sources.list y hago apt-get update,
pero al hacer apt-get install task-helix-gnome me da el siguiente error:
E: Couldn't find package task-helix-gnome

¿Alguien puede ayudarme?

Gracias por adelantado


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Re: problema con Helix Gnome 1.4

2001-05-08 Thread Jorge González
El 08 May 2001 16:24:13 +, Eduardo Rodriguez Barrera escribió:
 Hola a todos:
 
   Estoy intentando instalar Helix Gnome 1.4, en una potato 2.2r3  
 usando apt-get, tal y como se explica en el web de ximian. El caso es 
 que modifico el fichero /etc/apt/sources.list y hago apt-get update, 
 pero al hacer apt-get install task-helix-gnome me da el siguiente error:
 E: Couldn't find package task-helix-gnome
 

Este preoblema me dió a mi al principio, pero no pude resolverlo de
manera normal.

Se ve que el servidor de helix-gnome debe estar recargado (aunque ya hay
4-5 mirrors repartidos por el globo) y no logras bajar el archivo
Releases.

Por lo tanto, despues de estar varios días y nada, decidí bajarlo a la
ximian, es decir, con el instalador go-gnome. En la página de ximian te
vienen las instrucciones. Además es bastante facil.


Saludos.

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Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome

2001-04-20 Thread Ross Boylan
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 01:40:47AM +0200, Frank Preut wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:12:09AM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote:
  At 12:27 AM 4/18/01 -0400, joeytsai wrote:
  Also, I noticed some other threads referred to ximian for stable; that's 
  certainly a change.  I remember when I got Helix Gnome it required woody.
 
 that's the stupid part about all this: ximian calls woody unstable on
 their spidermonkey server, yet it will, as it seems, only work on a
 stable (potato) system.. tsts..
 
   frank.

The naming problems are a result of history.  Before there was a
testing distribution, woody was the same as unstable.  That was when
Helix set things up.  Probably if they changed things now that would
disrupt the people who have their apt sources set up.

The ximian site says they support potato and woody.



Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome

2001-04-19 Thread Frank Preut
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:12:09AM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote:
 At 12:27 AM 4/18/01 -0400, joeytsai wrote:
 Also, I noticed some other threads referred to ximian for stable; that's 
 certainly a change.  I remember when I got Helix Gnome it required woody.

that's the stupid part about all this: ximian calls woody unstable on
their spidermonkey server, yet it will, as it seems, only work on a
stable (potato) system.. tsts..

frank.



Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome

2001-04-19 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 01:40:47AM +0200, Frank Preut wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:12:09AM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote:
  At 12:27 AM 4/18/01 -0400, joeytsai wrote:
  Also, I noticed some other threads referred to ximian for stable; that's 
  certainly a change.  I remember when I got Helix Gnome it required woody.
 
 that's the stupid part about all this: ximian calls woody unstable on
 their spidermonkey server, yet it will, as it seems, only work on a
 stable (potato) system.. tsts..

Kinda makes you wonder if you know what they are doing.

Ok, that's an unfair shot :)  I thought the ximian packages were fine
when I was using potato; now that I'm running sid I removed them; they
cause nothing but trouble if you run woody or sid.

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Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome

2001-04-18 Thread joeytsai
:: Ross Boylan ::
 Is this a bug with anything, or just an inevitable result of trying to put
 unlike things (ximian and debian) together?

If you are running unstable (sid), you should not be running Ximian's Gnome.
Purge their packages (they have ximian or helix in their version) and use
Debian's.

// joey tsai



Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome

2001-04-18 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Ross Boylan wrote:

 I have a similar problem, but slightly different packages:
 Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
   libgnomesupport0: Depends: gnome-libs-data (= 1.2.13-4) but 
 1.2.11-ximian.1 is installed
   libgnomeui32: Depends: gnome-libs-data (= 1.2.13-4) but 1.2.11-ximian.1 is 
 installed
 
 Could anyone explain what is going on?  Would apt-get install on the
 two packages fix things up?  When I do it as a trial run it seems to
 work, though I get a large number of packages it would reconfigure.

I upgraded a couple potato systems to woody and then sid and got very
similar errors. apt-get dist-upgrade got stuck at a point like this. I
finally did

apt-get install libgnomesupport0 libgnomeui32 gnome-libs-data

(or maybe it was just gnome-libs-data; sorry I'm not sure) 

which worked, and then I went back to dist-upgrade and continued.

I have two more potato systems to upgrade. I think I'll try purging helix
stuff first as suggested.

...RickM...



Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome

2001-04-18 Thread Hall Stevenson
 If you are running unstable (sid), you should not be running
 Ximian's Gnome. Purge their packages (they have ximian or
 helix in their version) and use Debian's.

Since I've been running sid and Ximian's Gnome packages, until I did
an apt-get dist-upgrade yesterday, I saw no problems. Then, I ran into
a similar problem as the original poster -- there was a debian package
newer than the ximian one and it caused a brief headache.

Why exactly shouldn't you mix the two ??

Won't ximian normally have newer packages than debian, and therefore
avoid a conflict ??

Regards
Hall Stevenson



Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome

2001-04-18 Thread joeytsai
 Since I've been running sid and Ximian's Gnome packages, until I did
 an apt-get dist-upgrade yesterday, I saw no problems. Then, I ran into
 a similar problem as the original poster -- there was a debian package
 newer than the ximian one and it caused a brief headache.
 
 Why exactly shouldn't you mix the two ??
 
 Won't ximian normally have newer packages than debian, and therefore
 avoid a conflict ??

You can check previous posts about this subject. 

Ximian does not support the unstable branch of Debian.  Furthermore, their
versioniong seems to be inconsistent (or at least troublesome) with the
standard Debian package versioning.

Finally, the unstable packages are usually more up-to-date.

// joey tsai



Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome

2001-04-18 Thread Ross Boylan

At 12:27 AM 4/18/01 -0400, joeytsai wrote:

:: Ross Boylan ::
 Is this a bug with anything, or just an inevitable result of trying to put
 unlike things (ximian and debian) together?

If you are running unstable (sid), you should not be running Ximian's Gnome.
Purge their packages (they have ximian or helix in their version) and use
Debian's.

// joey tsai

I'm running testing (woody).  What's the right move for that?

Also, I noticed some other threads referred to ximian for stable; that's 
certainly a change.  I remember when I got Helix Gnome it required woody.




Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome

2001-04-17 Thread Ross Boylan
I have a similar problem, but slightly different packages:
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libgnomesupport0: Depends: gnome-libs-data (= 1.2.13-4) but 1.2.11-ximian.1 
is installed
  libgnomeui32: Depends: gnome-libs-data (= 1.2.13-4) but 1.2.11-ximian.1 is 
installed

Could anyone explain what is going on?  Would apt-get install on the
two packages fix things up?  When I do it as a trial run it seems to
work, though I get a large number of packages it would reconfigure.

Is this a bug with anything, or just an inevitable result of trying to
put unlike things (ximian and debian) together?



newbie fighting with Helix Gnome

2001-04-15 Thread simon
I'm new to Linux and even newer to Debian.

I am running woody, and today (15th) I did an apt-get upgrade that's
messed up Gnome. I was running Helix Gnome, although I did plan to
remove it and go back to plain Gnome...whatever the update did today
it seems to have replaced parts of Helix Gnome with newer standard
Gnome components and completely messed up my dependancies. apt-get
upgrade failed with the text pasted below:-

Unpacking oaf (from .../archives/oaf_0.6.5-5_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/oaf_0.6.5-5_i386.deb
(--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/oafd', which is also in package liboaf0
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Preparing to replace gnome-panel-data 1.2.4-helix2 (using
.../gnome-panel-data_1.4.0.2-1_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement gnome-panel-data ...
dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-panel-data_1.4.0.2-1_all.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/gnome/help/panel', which is also in
 package gnome-help-data
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/oaf_0.6.5-5_i386.deb
 /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-panel-data_1.4.0.2-1_all.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

I cannot apt-get -f install out of it as that fails with the same
error. I thought I would remove helix completely and then reinstall
gnome, but apt is telling me I do not have task-helix-gnome
installed. I'm at a bit of a loss. Am I right to try and remove 
then re-install Gnome (I don't want Helix back) and if so, how can I
do this.

Any suggestions would be very welcome.

ThanksSimon.
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Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome

2001-04-15 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 11:36:52PM +0100, simon wrote:

 I cannot apt-get -f install out of it as that fails with the same
 error. I thought I would remove helix completely and then reinstall
 gnome, but apt is telling me I do not have task-helix-gnome
 installed. I'm at a bit of a loss. Am I right to try and remove 
 then re-install Gnome (I don't want Helix back) and if so, how can I
 do this.
 
 Any suggestions would be very welcome.

purge every gnome package.  removing task-* packages does not remove
anything.

dpkg -l | grep ximian
purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah
dpkg -l | grep helix
purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah

then try a apt-get install task-gnome with your sources.list NOT
including ximian/helix.  

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Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome

2001-04-15 Thread Simon
On (15/04/01 14:45), Ethan Benson wrote:

 purge every gnome package.  removing task-* packages does not remove
 anything.
 
 dpkg -l | grep ximian
 purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah
 dpkg -l | grep helix
 purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah
 
 then try a apt-get install task-gnome with your sources.list NOT
 including ximian/helix.  
 
I cannot remove any of the packages. Whatever I attempt to remove I
just get the following error:-

Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  gnome-control-center: Depends: oaf (= 0.6.5) but it is not going to
  be installed
  gnome-panel: Depends: gnome-panel-data (= 1.4.0.2-1) but
  1.2.4-helix2 is to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or
specify a solution).

Running apt-get -f install just produces the error I posted
before.

I think I need to do some reading on apt... any help in the mean time
would be most welcome :)

Simon.

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Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome

2001-04-15 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:14:49AM +0100, Simon wrote:

 I cannot remove any of the packages. Whatever I attempt to remove I
 just get the following error:-
 
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
 Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
   gnome-control-center: Depends: oaf (= 0.6.5) but it is not going to
   be installed
   gnome-panel: Depends: gnome-panel-data (= 1.4.0.2-1) but
   1.2.4-helix2 is to be installed
 E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or
 specify a solution).


dpkg --purge gnome-control-center gnome-panel

then do the rest of the ximian/helix purging as described earlier. 

also make sure your sources.list do NOT contain ximian or helix
sources and run apt-get update.  

you might want to use dselect to purge these packages, they will be
marked as `obsolete' in dselect after removing helix crap from the
sources.list and running update.  


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Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome

2001-04-15 Thread David Steinberg
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Ethan Benson wrote:

 dpkg -l | grep ximian
 purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah
 dpkg -l | grep helix
 purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah

Minor point: you might want to make that grep ximi instead of
grep ximian, given that helix/ximian version numbers tend to be quite
long, and dpkg -l offers no way to specify a field width.

I (mostly) eliminated Ximian today, and, yes, there is a package or two
that you'll miss with the complete ximian.

Sorry to hear that Simon's upgrade messed up.  I actually did an
apt-get dist-upgrade today, and it was very helpful in purging
Ximian.  It seems that a bunch of new 1.4 core packages made it into
testing today, which upgraded from Ximian reasonably cleanly (it just took
a couple of go-arounds with -f to make it work).  Then, it was just a
matter of manually replacing the rest of the Ximian packages.  In most
cases, apt-get --purge remove followed by apt-get install did the
trick, but, if dependencies got in the way, I downloaded the deb's and
dpkg -i'ed them (this would have definately been simplified by a
 --force-downgrade in apt-get...).

Most of those went to equal versions, but a few (mostly the games) seemed
to be downgrades.  Oh well.  I can't personally see much difference
between gnome-xbill 1.2 and 1.0 g.

As was pointed out in a previous thread, there are some useful gnome and
gnome-related packages that have not yet made it into testing.  For those
packages, I kept the Ximian versions.  Those packages include:

abiword
eog
gnome-applets
sawfish
sawfish-gnome

I also kept the necessary Ximian dependancies for those packages:

libgnomeprint11
librep9
rep
rep-doc
rep-gtk
rep-gtk-gnome

I suppose that it would have been possible to eliminate these 11 packages,
and replace them with versions from unstable, but then you start getting
into bonobo dependancies...eek!  I'm trying to keep my box a fairly clean
testing installation, though I have installed a few packages from
unstable.  It's so hard to resist when it works so easily, but I decided
to stay with the devil I know, in this case.  So, those Ximian packages
stay on, I've got local copies of them, and I no longer have
spidermonkey.ximian.com in my sources.list.

Oh, I also kept a few of the pretty theme packages that Ximian is so keen
on (HeliX is still, by far, my favourite Sawfish theme g):

sawfish-themes
gtk-themes
helix-sweetpill

Anyways, it all seems to be working together quite nicely.  Hope this
helps out any other would-be Ximian-purgers out there.

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Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome

2001-04-15 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 05:20:16PM -0700, David Steinberg wrote:
 On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Ethan Benson wrote:
 
  dpkg -l | grep ximian
  purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah
  dpkg -l | grep helix
  purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah
 
 Minor point: you might want to make that grep ximi instead of
 grep ximian, given that helix/ximian version numbers tend to be quite
 long, and dpkg -l offers no way to specify a field width.

this may only affect the woody dpkg but setting COLLUMS (that looks
spelled wrong) will adjust this.  

removing the helix sources, running update then using dselect to purge
all the `obsolete/local' packages really is probably the best way.  

 dpkg -i'ed them (this would have definately been simplified by a
  --force-downgrade in apt-get...).

i think apt has a --force-downgrade.  

 As was pointed out in a previous thread, there are some useful gnome and
 gnome-related packages that have not yet made it into testing.  For those
 packages, I kept the Ximian versions.  Those packages include:

ximian packages are not binary compatible with debian's so that is not
a good idea.  better option is to install the missing packages from
debian unstable.  use of apt's pinning feature can aid this.  

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Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome

2001-04-15 Thread David Steinberg
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Ethan Benson wrote:
 this may only affect the woody dpkg but setting COLLUMS (that looks
 spelled wrong) will adjust this.  

Very nice!  I had no idea.  Thanks.

Oh, it's COLUMNS.  :)

 i think apt has a --force-downgrade.  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dave]$ apt-get --force-downgrade install rep
E: Command line option --force-downgrade is not understood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dave]$ apt-get -v
apt 0.5.3 for linux i386 compiled on Mar  7 2001 19:25:55

...maybe on a newer version?

 ximian packages are not binary compatible with debian's so that is not
 a good idea.  better option is to install the missing packages from
 debian unstable.  use of apt's pinning feature can aid this.  

Okie dokie.  Thanks for the advice.  I'll get on it (I'm still keeping
my theme packages, though).  :)

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Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome

2001-04-15 Thread Simon
 dpkg --purge gnome-control-center gnome-panel
 
 then do the rest of the ximian/helix purging as described earlier. 
 
 also make sure your sources.list do NOT contain ximian or helix
 sources and run apt-get update.  

Thanks for your help, that did the trick.

I think I'll try Windowmaker now.

Simon

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Re: Getting Helix-Gnome

2001-03-02 Thread Felix E. Klee
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stan Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I'd highly recommend against using the Helix packages. I've found
that they have conflicts with other packages on a recurring basis.

I have installed them on three computers with different configurations
and had no problems so far. Of course I removed most Debian Gnome
packages before installing Ximian. I even might try downloading the 1.4
test release next sunday.


   Is there an ftp equivalent? I am having trouble getting apt-get to work
   using http, and am limited to using the ftp method at teh moment.

You can download the packages with wget and add a line pointing
to their location on your harddisk to sources.list (that's what I did).

Felix



Re: Getting Helix-Gnome

2001-03-02 Thread Pollywog

  
  Is there an ftp equivalent? I am having trouble getting apt-get to work
  using http, and am limited to using the ftp method at teh moment.
  
  You can download the packages with wget and add a line pointing
  to their location on your harddisk to sources.list (that's what I did).

Is the original poster aware that the name has been changed from
helix to ximian?
Change helixgnome.com to ximian.com in your apt sources list and it
should work.

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Re: Getting Helix-Gnome

2001-03-01 Thread Stan Brown
On Wed Feb 28 21:49:39 2001 Greg Gilbert wrote...

The following line works:
deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian unstable main

But I'd highly recommend against using the Helix packages. I've
found that they have conflicts with other packages on a recurring
basis.


Is there an ftp equivalent? I am having trouble getting apt-get to work
using http, and am limited to using the ftp method at teh moment.

Thanks.

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Getting Helix-Gnome

2001-02-28 Thread Martin Marconcini



Hi, what is the correct path to get Helix-Gnome in 
sources.list and the apt-get command I should exec?

I've been trying some stuff but couldnt make it 
work!

I wish to get the latest Helix version 
(Xivian?)

Regards,

Martin.


Re: Getting Helix-Gnome

2001-02-28 Thread Greg Gilbert
The following line works:
deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian unstable main

But I'd highly recommend against using the Helix packages. I've
found that they have conflicts with other packages on a recurring
basis.

Greg

* Martin Marconcini ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Hi, what is the correct path to get Helix-Gnome in sources.list and the 
 apt-get command I should exec?
 
 I've been trying some stuff but couldnt make it work!
 
 I wish to get the latest Helix version (Xivian?)
 
 Regards,
 
 Martin.



Re: Getting Helix-Gnome

2001-02-28 Thread David Steinberg
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Greg Gilbert wrote:

 But I'd highly recommend against using the Helix packages. I've
 found that they have conflicts with other packages on a recurring
 basis.

Really?  I've been using Helix/Ximian on Debian (first potato then
woody) for a couple of months now, and I haven't seen any problems like
that yet.

I'm curious to know more.  Which release were you using, and which
packages gave you problems?

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Re: Getting Helix-Gnome

2001-02-28 Thread Mircea Luca
David Steinberg wrote:
 
 On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Greg Gilbert wrote:
 
  But I'd highly recommend against using the Helix packages. I've
  found that they have conflicts with other packages on a recurring
  basis.
 
 Really?  I've been using Helix/Ximian on Debian (first potato then
 woody) for a couple of months now, and I haven't seen any problems like
 that yet.
 
 I'm curious to know more.  Which release were you using, and which
 packages gave you problems?
 

 I had problems that I tracked down to mc-common.It works now but it
tried
to remove gdm.It did actually till I solved the problems manually.This
was
around a month ago.



helix-gnome

2001-02-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Instale helix-gnome y este requiere depende de gdm el cual no estoy
interesado en instalar es posible instalar helix-gnome sin gdm? o es
posible luego de instalar helix hacer un borrado por la fuerza de gdm?
Gracias, saludos.



Re: helix-gnome

2001-02-19 Thread Jon Noble
Hola,

On 19.02.01 20:55:09 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Instale helix-gnome y este requiere depende de gdm el cual no estoy
 interesado en instalar es posible instalar helix-gnome sin gdm? o es
 posible luego de instalar helix hacer un borrado por la fuerza de gdm?

Claro que es posible instalar helix-gnome sin gdm. Supongo que has mirado
task-helix-gnome y que este incluye gdm. Basta con que en lugar de instalar
task-helix-gnome instales manualmente todos los demás paquetes de los que
depende,
exceptuando gdm.

También puedes instalar todo y luego hacer `apt-get remove gdm`. Eso de
borrado
por la fuerza suena muy mal :-)

Un saludo,

Jon





Re: helix-gnome

2001-02-19 Thread David Felipe Arias Ochoa
  Instale helix-gnome y este requiere depende de gdm el cual no estoy
  interesado en instalar es posible instalar helix-gnome sin gdm? o es
  posible luego de instalar helix hacer un borrado por la fuerza de gdm?

 Claro que es posible instalar helix-gnome sin gdm. Supongo que has mirado
 task-helix-gnome y que este incluye gdm. Basta con que en lugar de
instalar
 task-helix-gnome instales manualmente todos los demás paquetes de los que
 depende,
 exceptuando gdm.

 También puedes instalar todo y luego hacer `apt-get remove gdm`. Eso de
 borrado
 por la fuerza suena muy mal :-)

 Un saludo,

 Jon

tambien puede decirle apt-get install xdm y el automaticamente instalar xdm
y borra gdm sin hacer nada a la fuerza



Re: helix gnome sound support not working

2001-02-06 Thread Brian May
 Moritz == Moritz Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Moritz Do you have xmms configured to use the esd output plugin?
Moritz (I've no idea about the other programs...)

I would have thought this was the default. Oh, wait, no, its trying to
use the OSS plugin. Thanks for your suggestion.

xmms works now. I wonder why gnome applications can't play sound (eg.
gnome-control-centre).
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helix gnome sound support not working

2001-02-05 Thread Brian May
Hello,

I have not been able to get sound support working under Helix Gnome
for several weeks now.

esdplay works fine, but no Gnome programs work (xmms and Gnome Control
Centre for instance).

(xmms works if I kill esd first).

Any ideas?
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Re: helix gnome sound support not working

2001-02-05 Thread Moritz Schulte
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have not been able to get sound support working under Helix Gnome
 for several weeks now.
 
 esdplay works fine, but no Gnome programs work (xmms and Gnome Control
 Centre for instance).

Do you have xmms configured to use the esd output plugin?
(I've no idea about the other programs...)

moritz
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Actualion de Gnome a Helix-Gnome de paquetes de La Espiral

2001-01-27 Thread Andres Seco Hernandez
Hola

He actualizado a Helix Gnome con los paquetes de La Espiral, con la linea
de apt que hace poco comentaba Jaime Villate que ya estaba disponible.

Al hacer el apt-get upgrade se han actualizado un monton (unos 17 MB),
pero 10 paquetes se han quedado keep-back (entre ellos gnome-session,
control-panel, y algunos mas).

Como en dselect no veía nada raro, he marcado task-gnome-desktop y se me
han seleccionado un monton más, claro, pero ya no ha quedado ningun
paquete en keept-back

¿que es eso del keep-back? Al hacer un apt-get upgrade, si se acualiza un
paquete que tiene dependencias nuevas de otro ¿no lo instala
automaticamente?

Para terminar, cuando salgan más versiones de Debian, ¿como afecta eso a
las versiones de gnome que he montado de La Espiral? ¿Serán actualizadas
por las de Debian, serán dejadas como local y tendré que actualizar a
mano?

Gracias y saludos.

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Re: Helix gnome control center freezes

2001-01-03 Thread Paolo Pedaletti
Salve Seung-woo Nam,

 Has anyone had the same problem?

me too :-(


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Re: Helix gnome control center freezes

2001-01-03 Thread Remco van de Meent
Seung-woo Nam wrote:
 Since I upgraded my Debian system from 2.2_rev0 to 2.2_rev2, all the
 Sawfish menus in Gnome control center wouldn't work (appearance,
 focus behaviour, etc.). When I click on any of those the window just
 freezes and doesn't show any contents of menus. I know Helix gnome is
 not a part of official Debian dist but since it happened after the
 upgrade, I was wandering ther's any conflict between Helix Gnome and
 new Debian. Has anyone had the same problem?

I can't provide a solution but I've had the same problem. Try running
the control center using strace. You'll probably see that it tries to
find all kind of librep/rep-gtk related things. You need to fiddle
around with that a little, I'm afraid (put some extra symbolic links in
or so).


Cheers,
Remco.



Re: Helix gnome control center freezes

2001-01-03 Thread Kristian Rink
And Remco van de Meent [EMAIL PROTECTED] gave word to the following thoughts:

 I can't provide a solution but I've had the same problem. Try running
 the control center using strace. You'll probably see that it tries to
 find all kind of librep/rep-gtk related things. You need to fiddle
 around with that a little, I'm afraid (put some extra symbolic links in
 or so).

Dunno if is the same problem as you guys are having, but I experienced severe 
trouble after installing potato and HelixGnome and trying to run the GNOME with 
my 'old' user configuration, had the control center freezing several times, 
didn't display desktop icons even if the files were installed and things like 
this... Those days I just backed up and then removed all my .gnome* 
configuration stuff in my $HOME and allowed GNOME to build a new configuration, 
and then I re-installed some configuration files out of the backed-up 
directories. Seems it was working fine, after... :)
HTH, have a nice evening...

Kris

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Re: Helix gnome control center freezes

2001-01-03 Thread Juergen Fiedler
At Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:08:57 -0500,
Seung-woo Nam wrote:
 
 Hi everyone:
 
 Since I upgraded my Debian system from 2.2_rev0 to 2.2_rev2, all the Sawfish
 menus in Gnome control center wouldn't work (appearance, focus behaviour,
 etc.). When I click on any of those the window just freezes and doesn't show
 any contents of menus. I know Helix gnome is not a part of official Debian
 dist but since it happened after the upgrade, I was wandering ther's any
 conflict between Helix Gnome and new Debian.
 
 Has anyone had the same problem?

I had exactly the same problem. Running sawfish-capplet directly 
from a terminal ought to give you some insight in what is going
wrong. In my case (a fresh install), rep was missing.
'apt-get install rep' solved my sawfish problems.

HTH,
j



Re: Helix gnome control center freezes

2001-01-03 Thread Steve Cooper
When I try to run gnomecc it crashes out of X and returns me to my KDM prompt.  
Is Gnome currently broken under Woody?

==
Steve Cooper
(working for somebody else in Redmond, WA)


 Subject: Re: Helix gnome control center freezes
 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:31:20 +0100
 From: Paolo Pedaletti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Seung-woo Nam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org

 Salve Seung-woo Nam,

  Has anyone had the same problem?

 me too :-(

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Helix gnome control center freezes

2001-01-02 Thread Seung-woo Nam



Hi everyone:
Since I upgraded my Debian system from 2.2_rev0 to 
2.2_rev2, all the Sawfish menus in Gnome control center wouldn't work 
(appearance, focus behaviour, etc.). When I click on any of those the window 
just freezes and doesn't show any contents of menus. I know Helix gnome is not a 
part of official Debian dist but since it happened after the upgrade, I was 
wandering ther's any conflict between Helix Gnome and new Debian.
Has anyone had the same problem?

Seung-woo Nam


Re: Switching between KDE Helix-Gnome

2000-12-30 Thread Matthew Sackman

  On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
  
   You don't need KDM in order to start KDE, nor do you need GDM to start
   GNOME.  Either of these display managers will allow you to choose a
   session from a menu when you log in.  
  
  If I understand you right, it is probably best to do completely without a
  display manager and instead use an .xsession file in my home directory
  from which I start the corresponding session. What script do I have to
  execute for starting Helix Gnome?
  

The way I have it set up is that my ~/.xsession has an exec gnome-session in
it. I use kdm. On log in, if I leave the session type at default then I go into
gnome, if I choose kde2 then I go into kde2. Easy.

Matthew

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Switching between KDE Helix-Gnome

2000-12-29 Thread Holger Rauch
Hello!

How can I switch between KDE and Helix-Gnome when both are installed on
the system? Unfortunately, I can not install gdm and kdm at the same time,
so I'm not sure what to do. One solution might be to do without an X
display manager entirely, but then I'm not sure whether I can still get
the same Helix-Gnome session as before. A better solution would perhaps be
to provide alternatives named x-display-manager and
x-desktop-environment that would enable one to conveniently switch
between both environments and still getting the display manager determined
for each environment, so that there is a consistent lookfeel. That is, it
would be nice if one could say

update-alternatives --config x-desktop-environment

and then, depending on the user's choice, x-display-manager would be set
to either kdm or gdm. However, I'm not sure whether this can be done and
whether this mailing list is the appropriate place for such suggestions
(probably not, so I apologize).

Anyway, thanks for taking your time.

A Happy New Year to all Debian users around the world!

Greetings,

Holger



Re: Switching between KDE Helix-Gnome

2000-12-29 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 01:15:27PM +0100, Holger Rauch wrote:
 
 How can I switch between KDE and Helix-Gnome when both are installed on
 the system? Unfortunately, I can not install gdm and kdm at the same time,
 so I'm not sure what to do. One solution might be to do without an X
 display manager entirely, but then I'm not sure whether I can still get
 the same Helix-Gnome session as before. A better solution would perhaps be
 to provide alternatives named x-display-manager and
 x-desktop-environment that would enable one to conveniently switch
 between both environments and still getting the display manager determined
 for each environment, so that there is a consistent lookfeel. That is, it
 would be nice if one could say

You don't need KDM in order to start KDE, nor do you need GDM to start
GNOME.  Either of these display managers will allow you to choose a
session from a menu when you log in.  You merely need to select the
appropriate session.  If you don't have e.g. a KDE session in your GDM
menu then you can add a script to /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions that calls
startkde or kde2 or whatever command you run to log in.

I'm not sure how to add a new session to the KDM menu, as I don't have
KDM.

HTH.
noah

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Re: Switching between KDE Helix-Gnome

2000-12-29 Thread Holger Rauch
Hi Noah!

Thanks a lot for your quick reply!

On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:

 You don't need KDM in order to start KDE, nor do you need GDM to start
 GNOME.  Either of these display managers will allow you to choose a
 session from a menu when you log in.  

If I understand you right, it is probably best to do completely without a
display manager and instead use an .xsession file in my home directory
from which I start the corresponding session. What script do I have to
execute for starting Helix Gnome?

Thanks!

Greetings,

Holger




Re: Switching between KDE Helix-Gnome

2000-12-29 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 05:10:48PM +0100, Holger Rauch wrote:
  You don't need KDM in order to start KDE, nor do you need GDM to start
  GNOME.  Either of these display managers will allow you to choose a
  session from a menu when you log in.  
 
 If I understand you right, it is probably best to do completely without a
 display manager and instead use an .xsession file in my home directory
 from which I start the corresponding session. What script do I have to
 execute for starting Helix Gnome?

No, not at all.  That will work, of course.  It will even work if you
use a display manager.  What I am saying is that both KDM and GDM
provide a menu with which you can choose a session to run when you log
in.  Which display manager are you using?  If you're using gdm, here's
how to set things up:

Create a script in /etc/X11/gdm called KDE.  That script needs to
contain nothing but the following
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/bin/kde2

## end of script.

Don't forget to chmod +x the script.

Now, when you log out, if you look at the sessions menu in gdm you'll
see an option for KDE.  If you select that option and log in, you'll be
running KDE.  If you leave the menu alone, you'll go to whatever you'd
previously been using.

All this stuff works system-wide.  Using the same method you can easily
create a session script for whatever window managers you have installed
and easily switch between them when logging in.

Doing this with KDM is, I'm sure, very similar.  I can't give you
specifics, though, as I don't use it.

HTH,
noah
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Re: Switching between KDE Helix-Gnome

2000-12-29 Thread csj
On Saturday 30 December 2000 00:10, Holger Rauch wrote:
 Hi Noah!

 Thanks a lot for your quick reply!

 On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
  You don't need KDM in order to start KDE, nor do you need GDM to start
  GNOME.  Either of these display managers will allow you to choose a
  session from a menu when you log in.

 If I understand you right, it is probably best to do completely without a
 display manager and instead use an .xsession file in my home directory
 from which I start the corresponding session. What script do I have to
 execute for starting Helix Gnome?

I think it's gnome-session. Try KDM, to add a session you just go as root to 
the appropriate dialog in kcontrol [System  Login manager  Sessions tab]. 
The session name is the name of the bash command you would use to invoke the 
window manager in question. Thus add xfce if you want to run xfce, icewm if 
you want to run icewm, and gnome-session for a gnome session. YMMV.



Re: helix gnome vs. woody gnome

2000-12-13 Thread Kai Weber
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 packages? Are they as stable? Is there any strange behavior? Do they
 contain as many programs as are available in the Helix packages? What are
 the pros and cons of each?

I switched over to a clean woody only system some days ago. I have to
do some configuration but it works.

I have to say, besides the (nicer) splash screens of helixcode the
difference between HelixCode's and Debian packages are minimal. I
switched back, because I had some trouble with dependencies due to my
awfull mix of package sources.

I now prefer the use of a clean woody system.

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Re: Helix-gnome control center problems

2000-12-10 Thread Jamil
I had this problem as well, you need to install the rep packages from helixcode
manually for some reason they don't install with task-helix-gnome.

Jamil
 For some reason, the gnome control center doesn't want me to configure any
 sawfish aspects.  When I click on any of the sawfish configuration options, 
 the
 left pane displays nothing, and eventually, the entire app freezes and has to
 be killed.
 
 Another thing I noticed is that the control center often thinks that
 Enlightenment is the default window manager, even though it is sawfish that is
 actually running.  I don't know if this has anything to with the previous
 problem, but I thought I would mention it.
 
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Re: Helix-gnome control center problems

2000-12-10 Thread Leen Besselink
On Sat, 9 Dec 2000, Rob VanFleet wrote:

 For some reason, the gnome control center doesn't want me to configure any
 sawfish aspects.  When I click on any of the sawfish configuration options, 
 the
 left pane displays nothing, and eventually, the entire app freezes and has to
 be killed.

 Another thing I noticed is that the control center often thinks that
 Enlightenment is the default window manager, even though it is sawfish that is
 actually running.  I don't know if this has anything to with the previous
 problem, but I thought I would mention it.

Well, what I did was, set it to sawfish for a moment and then set it back
to enlightenment that seemed to help a little for both problems. But I
think we should report it as a bug.


 -Rob




Re: [SOLVED] Helix-gnome control center problems

2000-12-10 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:11:15AM +0100, Leen Besselink wrote:
 Well, what I did was, set it to sawfish for a moment and then set it back
 to enlightenment that seemed to help a little for both problems. But I
 think we should report it as a bug.

The problem seemed to lie in the fact that librep9 wasn't installed with the
rest of Helix.  After I installed it, all the problems ceased.  I would
consider it an installation bug, since I actually used http://go-gnome.com to
install it, using the full install option.

-Rob



Helix-gnome control center problems

2000-12-09 Thread Rob VanFleet
For some reason, the gnome control center doesn't want me to configure any
sawfish aspects.  When I click on any of the sawfish configuration options, the
left pane displays nothing, and eventually, the entire app freezes and has to
be killed.

Another thing I noticed is that the control center often thinks that
Enlightenment is the default window manager, even though it is sawfish that is
actually running.  I don't know if this has anything to with the previous
problem, but I thought I would mention it.

-Rob



Re: How do you remove Helix GNOME

2000-12-08 Thread debuser
This doesn't work because helix is in the version number, not the package
name (except for about 3 packages). The matching seems only to match the
package name.

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Juergen Fiedler wrote:

 apt-get takes regular expressions, so a 'apt-get --purge remove helix*' 
 should nuke everything that has the string 'helix' in its name. 
 Note that apt-get does a substring match with the package name, 
 so 'helix*' will be matched no matter where in the name it is. 
 Also note, that you need the quotes around 'helix*', so you the asterisk i
 doesn't get eaten by bash.
 
 HTH,
 j
 
 
 On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 01:14:04PM -0500, Scott Patterson wrote:
  I'm interested in following the Woody releases of GNOME instead of Helix 
  Code's.
  Problem is, how do I remove ALL the Helix Code packages. Seeing they all 
  have
  helix in their package name, a simple script should easily do this. Too 
  bad
  I'm not that familiar with dpkg and apt. Going manually through each 
  package is
  not preferable!
  
  Scott
  
  
  
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helix gnome vs. woody gnome

2000-12-08 Thread debuser
About a month ago when installing a new system, I tried installing the
Gnome that comes with Woody (I've been using Helix Gnome on other
systems). I saw some strange behavior, but perhaps it was because I didn't
have a lot of suggested packages installed at the time. And, although a
trivial thing, the login pics were much better looking in the Helix
packages. Anyway, I thought maybe I should go back to the Debian packages
as I assume they conform more to Debian standards. My question is to those
that have used both, will I be missing anything if I go back to the Debian
packages? Are they as stable? Is there any strange behavior? Do they
contain as many programs as are available in the Helix packages? What are
the pros and cons of each?

Thanks,

Gerry




How do you remove Helix GNOME

2000-12-07 Thread Scott Patterson
I'm interested in following the Woody releases of GNOME instead of Helix Code's.
Problem is, how do I remove ALL the Helix Code packages. Seeing they all have
helix in their package name, a simple script should easily do this. Too bad
I'm not that familiar with dpkg and apt. Going manually through each package is
not preferable!

Scott




Re: How do you remove Helix GNOME

2000-12-07 Thread Juergen Fiedler
apt-get takes regular expressions, so a 'apt-get --purge remove helix*' 
should nuke everything that has the string 'helix' in its name. 
Note that apt-get does a substring match with the package name, 
so 'helix*' will be matched no matter where in the name it is. 
Also note, that you need the quotes around 'helix*', so you the asterisk i
doesn't get eaten by bash.

HTH,
j


On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 01:14:04PM -0500, Scott Patterson wrote:
 I'm interested in following the Woody releases of GNOME instead of Helix 
 Code's.
 Problem is, how do I remove ALL the Helix Code packages. Seeing they all have
 helix in their package name, a simple script should easily do this. Too bad
 I'm not that familiar with dpkg and apt. Going manually through each package 
 is
 not preferable!
 
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Helix Gnome

2000-11-22 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hi!

Should I deinstall  Gnome in order to install Helix Gnome in a Debian 2.2
machine?
Thanks in advance
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Re: Helix Gnome

2000-11-22 Thread Josh McKinney

You don't need to.

On approximately Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 10:35:22AM -0500, Marcelo Chiapparini 
wrote:

 Hi!
 
 Should I deinstall  Gnome in order to install Helix Gnome in a Debian 2.2
 machine?
 Thanks in advance
 Marcelo
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Re: Helix-Gnome not installable

2000-11-13 Thread Michael Epting
Since the problem is a conflict between Helix and Debian versions
of some libraries, perhaps you can temporarily comment out the Debian
lines in your sources.list, do an apt-get update and then try 
apt-get install task-helix-gnome.  Don´t forget to fix your 
sources.list afterwards or you won´t be able to keep your Woody
current on an hourly basis!  Also, you might need to avoid installing
the Debian versions afterwards, just by being careful with 
apt-get upgrade.

Another possibility, which I normally use, is to just wait for the
Helix guys to catch up.  (and they used to say that Debian was slow
to provide current versions of packages).

On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 09:55:07PM -0500, Joel Dinel wrote:
 I can't seem to install Helix Gnome on my woody box.
 
 dimmu:~# apt-get install task-helix-gnome
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
 requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
 distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
 or been moved out of Incoming.
 ...



Re: Helix-Gnome not installable

2000-11-13 Thread Michael Epting
Sometime this morning, Helix made new packages available.  I´ll bet
it all works OK now, so ignore my earlier post.

On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 09:55:07PM -0500, Joel Dinel wrote:
 I can't seem to install Helix Gnome on my woody box.
 
 dimmu:~# apt-get install task-helix-gnome
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
 requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
 distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
 or been moved out of Incoming.



Helix-Gnome not installable

2000-11-12 Thread Joel Dinel
I can't seem to install Helix Gnome on my woody box.

dimmu:~# apt-get install task-helix-gnome
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  task-helix-gnome: Depends: task-helix-core but it is not going to be 
installedE: Sorry, broken packages
 
So I apt-get install task-helix-core. I get the same message, but wirh 
sawfish-gnome. I install sawfush-gnome, now I get this same message about 
rep-gtk-gnome. This goes on and on through more packages until :

dimmu:~# apt-get install libgdk-pixbuf2
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Sorry, libgdk-pixbuf2 is already the newest version

So it comes down to this. Apt complains about dependencies until it gets down 
to the 'core' package, which is already installed. I did try removing in, and 
reinstalling it to no avail.

Has anybody else encountered this? Is there woody boxes out there running 
Helix?!

Thanks!

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Re: Helix-Gnome not installable

2000-11-12 Thread John S. J. Anderson
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 Has anybody else encountered this? Is there woody boxes out there
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I see this also, but I've already got a working install of Helix
Gnome, so it's not a big deal...for me. Can't offer any advice as to
how to get it to work, but thought I'd let you know it's not just you.

Perhaps give it a day or two and the maintainers will fix it?

Good luck,
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Re: Helix-Gnome not installable

2000-11-12 Thread Christoph Simon
 So I apt-get install task-helix-core. I get the same message, but wirh 
 sawfish-gnome. I install sawfush-gnome, now I get this same message about 
 rep-gtk-gnome. This goes on and on through more packages until :
 
 dimmu:~# apt-get install libgdk-pixbuf2
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Sorry, libgdk-pixbuf2 is already the newest version
 
 So it comes down to this. Apt complains about dependencies until it gets down 
 to the 'core' package, which is already installed. I did try removing in, and 
 reinstalling it to no avail.
 
 Has anybody else encountered this? Is there woody boxes out there running 
 Helix?!

I do run helix gome since a while. Recently, sawfish was uninstalled
in favor of sawfish. Try installing sawfish without gnome.

HTH

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Re: Helix-Gnome not installable

2000-11-12 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Sun, 12 Nov 2000, Joel Dinel wrote:

 I can't seem to install Helix Gnome on my woody box.

Thats an interesting apt quirk, just list all the packages at once:

auric{jgg}~/apt2/build/bin#./apt-get install task-helix-gnome task-helix-core 
sawfish-gnome rep-gtk-gnome libgdk-pixbuf-gnome2
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libgdk-pixbuf-gnome2: Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2 (= 0.9.0-0.2) but 0.9.0-helix5 
is to be installed
  rep-gtk-gnome: Depends: rep-gtk (= 0.14-1) but 0.14-helix2 is to be installed
E: Sorry, broken packages

Tada.

This appears to be because the helix folks are mixing and matching
libraries from debian and them. they were supposed to be using the debian
versions :|  

For instance if I use the new APT I can resolve this.. 

auric{jgg}~/apt2/build/bin#./apt-get install task-helix-gnome 
libgdk-pixbuf2=o=debian rep-gtk=o=debian
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Selected version 0.9.0-0.2 (Debian:unstable) for libgdk-pixbuf2
Selected version 0.14-1 (Debian:unstable) for rep-gtk
[..]
22 packages upgraded, 100 newly installed, 1 to remove and 238  not upgraded.
Need to get 38.1MB/61.9MB of archives. After unpacking 123MB will be used.

By picking the Debian versions of the problem libraries..

Jason



Re: Can't install Helix Gnome

2000-11-03 Thread Mario Vukelic
 I havn't been able to install Helix-Gnome in a while ...
  (snip)

Strange, I never had a probem with potato. Is this your sources.list
line for helix?

deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian woody main

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Re: Can't install Helix Gnome

2000-11-03 Thread Joel Dinel
On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 06:03:37PM +, Greg Gilbert wrote:
 Sounds like someone disobeyed the XFree86 maintainer when he said
 not to build packages against the beta packages of XFree86 4. They
 are on www.debian.org/~branden if you are willing to upgrade. If you
 don't want to upgrade, you can just try and get the stuff you need
 for gnome manually.
 

Aahhh that would explain it. I don't have any objections to upgrading to 
Xfree86 4.X. Is there a nice line I can add to my sources.list?


Joel Dinel
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Re: Can't install Helix Gnome

2000-11-03 Thread Greg Gilbert
The biggest issue is whether your videocard is support. Not
everything supported in 3.3.6 is working in 4.0.1. Check at
www.xfree86.org. If you have an nvidia, matrox, 3dfx, or ati
videocard you should be fine. I'm not near my machine right now, but
you can get the sources line from www.debian.org/~branden. 

Greg
* Joel Dinel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 06:03:37PM +, Greg Gilbert wrote:
  Sounds like someone disobeyed the XFree86 maintainer when he said
  not to build packages against the beta packages of XFree86 4. They
  are on www.debian.org/~branden if you are willing to upgrade. If you
  don't want to upgrade, you can just try and get the stuff you need
  for gnome manually.
  
 
 Aahhh that would explain it. I don't have any objections to upgrading to 
 Xfree86 4.X. Is there a nice line I can add to my sources.list?
 
 
 Joel Dinel
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Re: Can't install Helix Gnome

2000-11-03 Thread David Z. Maze
Joel Dinel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 06:03:37PM +, Greg Gilbert wrote:
 GG Sounds like someone disobeyed the XFree86 maintainer when he said
 GG not to build packages against the beta packages of XFree86 4. They
 GG are on www.debian.org/~branden if you are willing to upgrade. If you
 GG don't want to upgrade, you can just try and get the stuff you need
 GG for gnome manually.
 GG 
JD 
JD Aahhh that would explain it. I don't have any objections to
JD upgrading to Xfree86 4.X. Is there a nice line I can add to my
JD sources.list?

According to debian-devel-changes, it's now in unstable, which means
it's now only somewhat broken (according to the changelog) as opposed
to completely unreliable (according to Branden's Web page).  The
upshot of this is that you don't actually need to add anything to your 
sources.list.

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Can't install Helix Gnome

2000-11-02 Thread Joel Dinel
I havn't been able to install Helix-Gnome in a while ...

 apt-get install task-helix-gnome
- SNIP SNIP -

 Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
   task-helix-gnome: Depends: task-helix-core but it is not going to be 
installedE: Sorry, broken packages

Ok ... so :

apt-get install task-helix-core
- SNIP SNIP -

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  task-helix-core: Depends: grdb but it is not going to be installed
  E: Sorry, broken packages

  Er ...

  dimmu:~# apt-get install grdb
- SNIP SNIP -

  Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
grdb: Depends: xlibs (= 4.0.1-0) but it is not installable
E: Sorry, broken packages

Wise guy, huh ?

dimmu:~# apt-get install xlibs
- SNIP SNIP -
Package xlibs has no available version, but exists in the database.
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
of sources.list
E: Package xlibs has no installation candidate

Ok. The Debian package page says XLIBS doesn't exist. How do I get Helix Gnome 
now ?

Thanks !

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Re: Can't install Helix Gnome

2000-11-02 Thread Greg Gilbert
Sounds like someone disobeyed the XFree86 maintainer when he said
not to build packages against the beta packages of XFree86 4. They
are on www.debian.org/~branden if you are willing to upgrade. If you
don't want to upgrade, you can just try and get the stuff you need
for gnome manually.

Greg
* Joel Dinel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I havn't been able to install Helix-Gnome in a while ...
 
  apt-get install task-helix-gnome
 - SNIP SNIP -
 
  Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
task-helix-gnome: Depends: task-helix-core but it is not going to be 
 installedE: Sorry, broken packages
 
 Ok ... so :
 
 apt-get install task-helix-core
 - SNIP SNIP -
 
 Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
   task-helix-core: Depends: grdb but it is not going to be installed
   E: Sorry, broken packages
 
   Er ...
 
   dimmu:~# apt-get install grdb
 - SNIP SNIP -
 
   Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
 grdb: Depends: xlibs (= 4.0.1-0) but it is not installable
 E: Sorry, broken packages
 
 Wise guy, huh ?
 
 dimmu:~# apt-get install xlibs
 - SNIP SNIP -
 Package xlibs has no available version, but exists in the database.
 This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
 never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
 of sources.list
 E: Package xlibs has no installation candidate
 
 Ok. The Debian package page says XLIBS doesn't exist. How do I get Helix 
 Gnome now ?
 
 Thanks !
 
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Mensaje de aviso en Helix Gnome

2000-10-23 Thread Juan C. Amengual
Hola,

resulta que, tras instalarme el Helix Gnome en potato (paquetes de La
Espiral), tengo el .xsession-errors inundado con el siguiente mensaje:

Gtk-WARNING **: Imposible de encontrar un módulo cargable en
module_path: libthinice.so,

¿Alguien sabe de qué va? He hecho un dpkg -l libthin y apt-cache
search libthin y ni flowers. La verdad, el mensaje resulta molesto y no
encuentro esta librería por ningún sitio. ¿Alguna pista? Gracias.

Saludos,



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Re: Mensaje de aviso en Helix Gnome

2000-10-23 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
On lun, oct 23, 2000 at 09:23:34 +0200, Juan C. Amengual wrote:
 resulta que, tras instalarme el Helix Gnome en potato (paquetes de La
 Espiral), tengo el .xsession-errors inundado con el siguiente mensaje:
 
 Gtk-WARNING **: Imposible de encontrar un módulo cargable en
 module_path: libthinice.so,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dpkg -S libthinice
gtk-engines-thinice: /usr/lib/gtk/themes/engines/libthinice.so

Ya lo sabes, te falta el paquete gtk-engines-thinice que es el tema de
escritorio GTK+ Thinice que tengo yo :)

 ¿Alguien sabe de qué va? He hecho un dpkg -l libthin y apt-cache
~~~
'*libthin*' mejor, tal com
lo pones tu, el paquete ha de llamarse libthin literalmente  y no 
contener la cadena de caracteres libthin como creo que pretendías.

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Re: Helix gnome para potato

2000-10-20 Thread Jaime E. Villate
Juan C. Amengual wrote:
 Para quien le interese, ésta es la
 línea que hay que añadir en el fichero /etc/apt/sources.list (caso que 
 actualice via apt a
 través de ftp o http):
 
 deb http://quark.fe.up.pt/debian potato/local helixcode
 
¡Ya funciona nuevamente! después de un par de dias off-line.
Si queréis experimentar otros de los paquetes que hemos recopilado en La
Espiral, usad las siguientes líneas en el sources.list:

deb http://quark.fe.up.pt/debian potato/local kde
(KDE 2 beta3, para instalar en potato)

deb http://quark.fe.up.pt/debian potato/local evolution
(Evolution para potato)

deb http://quark.fe.up.pt/debian potato/local extras
(postgresql 7, ghostscript 6 y otros)

deb http://quark.fe.up.pt/debian woody/local xfree4
(Xfree 4.0 que se puede instalar en potato, a pesar de su nombre)

Saludos,
Jaime Villate
proyecto La Espiral http://laespiral.org



helix gnome WindowMaker

2000-10-20 Thread stefan goeman
Hello,

After an upgrade (and a reboot) I have problems running WindowMaker under Helix 
Gnome.
Gnome complains saying running a non gnome compliant windowmanger and 
WindowMaker does not start and I can't use Gnome either. I have to delete my 
.gnome directory so that the sawfish windowmanager is being used.

Anybody else noticed this problem?

Greetings,

Stefan Goeman
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Re: helix gnome WindowMaker

2000-10-20 Thread G Mc.Pherson
Hi Stefan,

On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, stefan goeman wrote:

 Hello,
 
 After an upgrade (and a reboot) I have problems running WindowMaker under 
 Helix Gnome.
 Gnome complains saying running a non gnome compliant windowmanger and 
 WindowMaker does
 not start and I can't use Gnome either. I have to delete my .gnome 
 directory so that the sawfish windowmanager is being used.
 
 Anybody else noticed this problem?

  Sort of. Upgrading wm-properties-capplet to version 1.2.2 has caused
helix-gnome to fail when it's loading from gdm manager. I've posted a bug
report with helix about it. 

Gord



Re: Helix gnome para potato

2000-10-18 Thread Juan C. Amengual
Carles Pina i Estany wrote:

 Hola

  estoy considerando muy seriamente la posibilidad de instalar Helix Gnome
  . ¿existen paquetes
 www.laespiral.org

 gracias a miquel que creo que corre por aquí!

... y gracias a tí por indicármelo ... El caso es que me sonaba que alguien 
(seguramente tú)
comentó hace algún tiempo en la lista la existencia de dichos paquetes ... Mis 
disculpas,
debería haber buscado antes en los archivos de la lista. Para quien le 
interese, ésta es la
línea que hay que añadir en el fichero /etc/apt/sources.list (caso que 
actualice via apt a
través de ftp o http):

deb http://quark.fe.up.pt/debian potato/local helixcode

Por cierto ... ¡está de muerte, abuela! ;-)

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Re: Helix gnome para potato

2000-10-18 Thread Juan Carlos Muro
Hola.
Aprobecho para hacer algunas preguntas al respecto.
¿Cómo está el tema de 'libertad' del software Gnome y lo relacionado con él? No 
sé de qué me
suena, pero hace tiempo me pareció oir que se iba a tirar hacia el uso de 
activeX y movidas
de esas que le ponen a uno la carne de gallina sólo oirlas (a mi nada más 
pensar en el tipo
ese de gafas que responde al nombre de 'gates'...). ¿Hay algo de cierto en eso?
Me gustaría pensar (que alguien de vosotros) que puedo seguir durmiendo con la 
tranquilidad
de que Gnome (y lo mismo Helix Gnome) seguirá siendo software libre (GNU¿?)

Saludos:

Juan Carlos Muro


Juan C. Amengual wrote:

 Hola penya, (es femenino y lo suficientemente genérico como para no
 herir susceptibilidades ;-)

 estoy considerando muy seriamente la posibilidad de instalar Helix Gnome
 en una de las máquinas que cae bajo mis dominios aquí en la
 universidad. Lo que pasa es que esta máquina es de producción y
 prefiero no arriesgarme con unstable (recordad sin ir más lejos lo que
 pasa cuando se actualizan cosas como glibc). Al grano, ¿existen paquetes
 potato de helix gnome que machaquen el gnome-a-secas de potato? Sé
 que en el FTP de helix gnome (el spidermonkey ése) hay paquetes .deb,
 pero son para woody y prefiero no arriesgarme (ya sabéis, tema
 dependencias). Muchas gracias por vuestra atención.



Re: Helix gnome para potato

2000-10-18 Thread Jaime E. Villate
Juan C. Amengual wrote:
 Para quien le interese, ésta es la
 línea que hay que añadir en el fichero /etc/apt/sources.list (caso que 
 actualice via apt a
 través de ftp o http):
 
 deb http://quark.fe.up.pt/debian potato/local helixcode
 
 Por cierto ... ¡está de muerte, abuela! ;-)

Gracias; pero desafortunadamente quark ha quedado fuera de la red hoy
al médio día (nuestra universidad se ha trasteado a otro lugar) y solo
podré ponerlo on-line en unos dos días. Así que tened paciencia que
quark regresará uno de estos dias, y quedará mas rápido que lo que
estaba.

Jaime



Re: Helix gnome para potato

2000-10-18 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
On mié, oct 18, 2000 at 11:19:39 +0200, Juan Carlos Muro wrote:
 ¿Cómo está el tema de 'libertad' del software Gnome y lo relacionado con él? 
 No sé de qué me
 suena, pero hace tiempo me pareció oir que se iba a tirar hacia el uso de 
 activeX y movidas
 de esas que le ponen a uno la carne de gallina sólo oirlas (a mi nada más 
 pensar en el tipo
 ese de gafas que responde al nombre de 'gates'...). ¿Hay algo de cierto en 
 eso?
 Me gustaría pensar (que alguien de vosotros) que puedo seguir durmiendo con 
 la tranquilidad
 de que Gnome (y lo mismo Helix Gnome) seguirá siendo software libre (GNU¿?)

Habiendo hablado en persona con Miguel del tema de la importancia de hacer 
software libre a 
toda costa tendría que haberse dado un fuerte golpe en la cabeza para que
GNOME cambiara tan radicalmente el rumbo.

GNOME es GPL, es decir software libre con efecto virus ;-)
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Re: Helix gnome para potato

2000-10-18 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
At 11:19 p.m. 2000-10-18 +0200, Juan Carlos Muro wrote:
Hola.
Aprobecho para hacer algunas preguntas al respecto.
¿Cómo está el tema de 'libertad' del software Gnome y lo relacionado con él? 
No sé de qué me
suena, pero hace tiempo me pareció oir que se iba a tirar hacia el uso de 
activeX y movidas
de esas que le ponen a uno la carne de gallina sólo oirlas (a mi nada más 
pensar en el tipo
ese de gafas que responde al nombre de 'gates'...). ¿Hay algo de cierto en eso?
Me gustaría pensar (que alguien de vosotros) que puedo seguir durmiendo con la 
tranquilidad
de que Gnome (y lo mismo Helix Gnome) seguirá siendo software libre (GNU¿?)

ActiveX? Te refieres acaso a componentes reusables? Si es eso, pues si,
se está trabajando activamente en eso. Bonobo (que se basa en CORBA), es
quien hace el truco.

KDE2 tiene algo parecido, la gran diferencia es que ellos se inventaron su
manera para lograr lo mismo que CORBA, pero sin ser CORBA. Ventajas: 
posiblemente
sea más rápido y sencillo de programar. Desventajas: incompatible, nadie más
que KDE usa esa interface.


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Helix gnome para potato

2000-10-17 Thread Juan C. Amengual
Hola penya, (es femenino y lo suficientemente genérico como para no
herir susceptibilidades ;-)

estoy considerando muy seriamente la posibilidad de instalar Helix Gnome
en una de las máquinas que cae bajo mis dominios aquí en la
universidad. Lo que pasa es que esta máquina es de producción y
prefiero no arriesgarme con unstable (recordad sin ir más lejos lo que
pasa cuando se actualizan cosas como glibc). Al grano, ¿existen paquetes
potato de helix gnome que machaquen el gnome-a-secas de potato? Sé
que en el FTP de helix gnome (el spidermonkey ése) hay paquetes .deb,
pero son para woody y prefiero no arriesgarme (ya sabéis, tema
dependencias). Muchas gracias por vuestra atención.

Saludos,



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RE: Helix gnome para potato

2000-10-17 Thread Alvarez, Angel
Si te sirve de algo
Yo tengo el Helix corriendo en Potato, sin problemas y lo actualice
directamente del sitio de gnome

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Enviado el: Martes 17 de Octubre de 2000 14:52
Para: Lista Linux Debian
Asunto: Helix gnome para potato


Hola penya, (es femenino y lo suficientemente genérico como para no
herir susceptibilidades ;-)

estoy considerando muy seriamente la posibilidad de instalar Helix Gnome
en una de las máquinas que cae bajo mis dominios aquí en la
universidad. Lo que pasa es que esta máquina es de producción y
prefiero no arriesgarme con unstable (recordad sin ir más lejos lo que
pasa cuando se actualizan cosas como glibc). Al grano, ¿existen paquetes
potato de helix gnome que machaquen el gnome-a-secas de potato? Sé
que en el FTP de helix gnome (el spidermonkey ése) hay paquetes .deb,
pero son para woody y prefiero no arriesgarme (ya sabéis, tema
dependencias). Muchas gracias por vuestra atención.

Saludos,




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Re: Helix gnome para potato

2000-10-17 Thread Carles Pina i Estany


Hola

 
 estoy considerando muy seriamente la posibilidad de instalar Helix Gnome
 en una de las máquinas que cae bajo mis dominios aquí en la
 universidad. Lo que pasa es que esta máquina es de producción y
 prefiero no arriesgarme con unstable (recordad sin ir más lejos lo que
 pasa cuando se actualizan cosas como glibc). Al grano, ¿existen paquetes
www.laespiral.org

gracias a miquel que creo que corre por aquí!

hasta pronto


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Re-enabling Debian menus in Helix GNOME foot menu

2000-10-12 Thread Thomas Hood
Here's something it took me a while to figure out.

To enable the Debian menu hierarchy in Helix GNOME,
you have to go into the GNOME Control Center (under
Programs|Settings) and on the Menu tab in the
Global Menu box enable Distribution either
in the menu or in a submenu.

Thomas Hood



Menu editor crashes in Helix GNOME

2000-10-12 Thread Martin Weinberg
I find that the menu editor dies when one attempts to edit
any user menu with the latest Helix version.  The system is
Helix + up-to-date Potato.

Has anyone else seen this and/or know a fix?

TIA,

--Martin




Re: Re-enabling Debian menus in Helix GNOME foot menu

2000-10-12 Thread Kai Weber
+ Thomas Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 To enable the Debian menu hierarchy in Helix GNOME,
 you have to go into the GNOME Control Center (under

Any idea how to get the debian-menu back into the sawfish
applications-menu which pops up when I press middle mouse button? It was
gone some versions of Helix's sawfish package before. Till now, I could
not find a way to get it back.

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Re: Menu editor crashes in Helix GNOME

2000-10-12 Thread Richard Black
Me too.  I reported to gnome as a bug.

Martin Weinberg wrote:

 I find that the menu editor dies when one attempts to edit
 any user menu with the latest Helix version.  The system is
 Helix + up-to-date Potato.

 Has anyone else seen this and/or know a fix?

 TIA,

 --Martin

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Re: Menu editor crashes in Helix GNOME

2000-10-12 Thread John Travis


On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Martin Weinberg wrote:
 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:51:53 -0400
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 From: Martin Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Menu editor crashes in Helix GNOME
 
 I find that the menu editor dies when one attempts to edit
 any user menu with the latest Helix version.  The system is
 Helix + up-to-date Potato.
 
 Has anyone else seen this and/or know a fix?
 
 TIA,
 
 --Martin
 
 
 
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I had this problem for a few days a while back.  Another 'apt-get upgrade'
fixed the problem.  Unfortunately I am not sure exactly what package
caused/fixed the problem (it's hard to keep track at the rate they are
cranking them out ;-).

jt



Helix GNOME and Debian GNOME incompatible

2000-10-01 Thread Jürgen A. Erhard
Hi folks, hi Peter,

I just had sawfish malfunction in a strange way: I've bound M-F10 to
Popup Window Menu.  But that suddenly stopped working... and worse,
even clicking into the window icon for the popup window did nothing.

So I investigated... reinstalling a couple things.  And, this morning,
I found it: there were updated packages for the Debian version of the
rep lisp interpreter which sawfish is built on.  Now I had rep from
Debian and sawfish from helix (the Debian upgrade is not installable
yet).

I removed all sawfish and rep packages, and installed the helix
versions only... and everything's back to normal.

HTHS,

Bye, J

PS: Peter, could you get the name change of the Helix packages done
some time soon?  Would have avoided this...

PPS: Another thing that failed was when clicking on any sawfish item
in the GNOME CC the capplet hung (using up all CPU it got).

PPPS: More details on request...

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Re: Helix gnome on debian 2.2....

2000-09-25 Thread Andrew D Dixon




use
 >apt-get install task-helix-gnome
after you set up your sources.list file. The install instructions
at
 http://www.helixcode.com
are very good. I installed helix-gnome from fvwm2 without a hitch
(I did have to restart my potato box though) but since then I have hosed
sawmill but I think that this is a seperate issue.
Rus wrote:

Hi,
an introduction.. my name's Rus.. I've been using RedHat for a bit.. and
now I'm making the jump to debs.. :-)Anyways...
I'm just wondering if their is anything I should know about installing
Helix gnome on top of Debian 2.2? I don't just want to 'upgrade what ive
got'.. I'd also like all the new programs/utilities/etc. that make up the
Helix install...Also
would i be correct in saying that I shouldn't have gnome running while
I download and install?I
dunno.. I just don't want to kill of my Debian install.. whilse also being
able to have the funky looking verison of gnome that my RedHat mate has!!
:-)Anyways, thankyou
very much for you time,Rus





Helix gnome on debian 2.2....

2000-09-24 Thread Rus



Hi, an introduction.. my name's Rus.. I've been 
using RedHat for a bit.. and now I'm making the jump to debs.. :-)

Anyways... I'm just wondering if their is anything 
I should know about installing Helix gnome on top of Debian 2.2? I don't just 
want to 'upgrade what ive got'.. I'd also like all the new 
programs/utilities/etc. that make up the Helix install...

Also would i be correct in saying that I shouldn't 
have gnome running while I download and install?

I dunno.. I just don't want to kill of my Debian 
install.. whilse also being able to have the funky looking verison of gnome that 
my RedHat mate has!! :-)

Anyways, thankyou very much for you 
time,

Rus


Re: Helix gnome on debian 2.2....

2000-09-24 Thread Rino Mardo
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 07:20:49AM +0100 or thereabouts, Rus wrote:
 Hi, an introduction.. my name's Rus.. I've been using RedHat for a bit.. and 
 now I'm making the jump to debs.. :-)
 
 Anyways... I'm just wondering if their is anything I should know about 
 installing Helix gnome on top of Debian 2.2? I don't just want to 'upgrade 
 what ive got'.. I'd also like all the new programs/utilities/etc. that make 
 up the Helix install...
 
 Also would i be correct in saying that I shouldn't have gnome running while I 
 download and install?
 
 I dunno.. I just don't want to kill of my Debian install.. whilse also being 
 able to have the funky looking verison of gnome that my RedHat mate has!! :-)
 
 Anyways, thankyou very much for you time,
 
 Rus


you need this in your /etc/apt/sources.list:


deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian woody main



then do:

1. apt-get update
2. apt-get install task-helix-gnome
3. make coffee
4. sit back and watch


doing this in console is better since you need to restart your X when it's
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RE: what is Helix-Gnome?

2000-09-18 Thread TODD WITTER
When I installed Helix, it asked what I wanted installed.  I chose 
not to install the games.  And it did just that.  

On 17 Sep 00, at 18:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Pollywog wrote:
 
  This Helix-Gnome thing is very nice, but I wish I could get rid of the games
  and stuff I don't use.  I will have to suggest this to the developers.
 
 Uhh.. So why not just purge the games along with task-helix-gnome?
 Problem solved.
 
 
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what is Helix-Gnome?

2000-09-17 Thread Pollywog
I see many posts about Helix-Gnome but I can't seem to find it anywhere?
What is so good about it and where can I get it?


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Re: what is Helix-Gnome?

2000-09-17 Thread iehrenwald
On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Pollywog wrote:

 I see many posts about Helix-Gnome but I can't seem to find it anywhere?
 What is so good about it and where can I get it?

http://www.helixcode.com/




Re: what is Helix-Gnome?

2000-09-17 Thread Moritz Schulte
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 08:26:53PM +, Pollywog wrote:

 I see many posts about Helix-Gnome but I can't seem to find it
 anywhere?
 What is so good about it and where can I get it?

see http://www.helixcode.com.

Helix Code packages GNOME for many distributions (also for Debian
Potato/Woody). Furthermore it helps developing GNOME applications,
e.g.: Evolution.

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