Re: Holy Water in my system? Daemons keep dying . . .
OK, I don't mind that as long as the bug is left open (with severity downgraded, of course). John Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 15 Jun 1998, John Goerzen wrote: Or, just put a 2 second sleep between the kill and start in the /etc/init.d/lpd restart section. Why would this make a difference? Wouldn't this signify a race condition? Worse, on a heavily-loaded system, wouldn't 2 seconds be too little a wait for whatever needs to be done? Yes, it is a race condition. My guess is that lpr doesn't die before the next lpr tries to start up. The second lpr sees the first and fails to start, and then the first finally dies. There are much better solutions than a 2 second wait, and it will probably fail on a heavily-loaded system. However, it's enough to get the bug out of the release critical list, and to take a deap breath before working on the correct solution. OK? Brandon --+-- Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Testing Group Status PGP Key: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/deb/ Dijkstra probably hates me (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c) -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capitol Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Holy Water in my system? Daemons keep dying . . .
Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: privately...) My system information: lpr 5.9-26 Fixed: ii lpr 5.9-27 BSD lpr/lpd line printer spooling system Or, just put a 2 second sleep between the kill and start in the /etc/init.d/lpd restart section. Why would this make a difference? Wouldn't this signify a race condition? Worse, on a heavily-loaded system, wouldn't 2 seconds be too little a wait for whatever needs to be done? HTH, Brandon --+-- Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Testing Group Status PGP Key: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/deb/ Dijkstra probably hates me (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powerful OS upgrade) www.debian.org | + Visit the Air Capitol Linux Users Group on the web at http://www.aclug.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Holy Water in my system? Daemons keep dying . . .
On 15 Jun 1998, John Goerzen wrote: Or, just put a 2 second sleep between the kill and start in the /etc/init.d/lpd restart section. Why would this make a difference? Wouldn't this signify a race condition? Worse, on a heavily-loaded system, wouldn't 2 seconds be too little a wait for whatever needs to be done? Yes, it is a race condition. My guess is that lpr doesn't die before the next lpr tries to start up. The second lpr sees the first and fails to start, and then the first finally dies. There are much better solutions than a 2 second wait, and it will probably fail on a heavily-loaded system. However, it's enough to get the bug out of the release critical list, and to take a deap breath before working on the correct solution. OK? Brandon --+-- Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Testing Group Status PGP Key: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/deb/ Dijkstra probably hates me (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Holy Water in my system? Daemons keep dying . . .
Hi, Brandon! My pland dies almost instantly, do you know about solution for that similar to lpr? Thanks, Sasha. Fixed: ii lpr 5.9-27 BSD lpr/lpd line printer spooling system Or, just put a 2 second sleep between the kill and start in the /etc/init.d/lpd restart section. HTH, Brandon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Holy Water in my system? Daemons keep dying . . .
Hi, Brandon! My pland dies almost instantly, do you know about solution for that similar to lpr? But that seems to be different in nature. It terminates because it incorrectly things that the application calling it is done. rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Holy Water in my system? Daemons keep dying . . .
Richard E. Hawkins Esq. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| lpd tends to die within a day or so, and pland dies within minutes,
announcing
| (incorrectly) an application logout.
I'm not using pland but I get exactly the same behaviour with
lpd on our production system. If you find a solution for this,
I'd appreciate if you could notify me too (I do follow this
list, but just in case you find it yourself or someone mails
privately...)
My system information:
Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 (frozen) / x86
Linux kernel v2.1.101
libc6 2.0.7pre1-4
lpr 5.9-26
I get no messages of any kind to logs. As a side note, other
daemons have been working fine, but I've seen sshd dying on my
friend's box (with different versions of sshd (1.2.2{2,5} at
least) and otherwise very similar configuration to mine)
sometimes (not at all that often as lpd on my machine).
//Hannu
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Re: Holy Water in my system? Daemons keep dying . . .
On 15 Jun 1998, Hannu Koivisto wrote: Richard E. Hawkins Esq. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | lpd tends to die within a day or so, and pland dies within minutes, announcing | (incorrectly) an application logout. I'm not using pland but I get exactly the same behaviour with lpd on our production system. If you find a solution for this, I'd appreciate if you could notify me too (I do follow this list, but just in case you find it yourself or someone mails privately...) My system information: lpr 5.9-26 Fixed: ii lpr 5.9-27 BSD lpr/lpd line printer spooling system Or, just put a 2 second sleep between the kill and start in the /etc/init.d/lpd restart section. HTH, Brandon --+-- Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Testing Group Status PGP Key: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/deb/ Dijkstra probably hates me (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Holy Water in my system? Daemons keep dying . . .
Something keeps splatting my poor daemons. lpd tends to die within a day or so, and pland dies within minutes, announcing (incorrectly) an application logout. rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
