Re: cannot install iceweasel 3.5 from lenny-backports
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:07:41 +0800 Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar umarz...@gmail.com wrote: i had enabled lenny-backports but aptitude -t lenny-backports install iceweasel installs Iceweasel 3.0.6 There isn't an iceweasel package in Backports, so you're stuck with the one in Lenny... unless you want to backport it yourself from debian source packages found in Sid or Testing (doable, but not easy for the novice). Either stick with what you have in Lenny or just get the Firefox tarball from Mozilla, extract it into your home directory (or put it in /opt and link to it from /usr/local/bin), then run it from there. Putting it in your home directory will mean that it'll be easy for it to auto-update. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: cannot install iceweasel 3.5 from lenny-backports
2010/1/23 Graham savagebiscu...@googlemail.com On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:07:41 +0800 Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar umarz...@gmail.com wrote: i had enabled lenny-backports but aptitude -t lenny-backports install iceweasel installs Iceweasel 3.0.6 There isn't an iceweasel package in Backports, so you're stuck with the one in Lenny... unless you want to backport it yourself from debian source packages found in Sid or Testing (doable, but not easy for the novice). Either stick with what you have in Lenny or just get the Firefox tarball from Mozilla, extract it into your home directory (or put it in /opt and link to it from /usr/local/bin), then run it from there. Putting it in your home directory will mean that it'll be easy for it to auto-update. my mistake, the package is for amd64 and powerpc http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=lenny-backportssearchon=nameskeywords=iceweasel Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my
Re: cannot install iceweasel 3.5 from lenny-backports
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 20:13:26 +0800 Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.com wrote: my mistake, the package is for amd64 and powerpc http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=lenny-backportssearchon=nameskeywords=iceweasel No, it's my mistake. I didn't properly check with the Debian packages page (hadn't sipped my morning coffee ;) ), so thought that there was no Iceweasel 3.5.6 package for any architecture. Still, if you need the latest, you could always get the tarball from Mozilla. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
cannot install iceweasel 3.5 from lenny-backports
i had enabled lenny-backports but aptitude -t lenny-backports install iceweasel installs Iceweasel 3.0.6 my /etc/apt/sources.list as below deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main main deb ftp://ftp.debian-multimedia.org lenny main deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian lenny non-free deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free my /etc/apt/preferences as below Package: * Pin: release a=lenny Pin-Priority: 200 Package: * Pin: release a=lenny-backports Pin-Priority: 100 where is my mistake? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: cannot install iceweasel 3.5 from lenny-backports
Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar wrote: i had enabled lenny-backports but aptitude -t lenny-backports install iceweasel installs Iceweasel 3.0.6 my /etc/apt/sources.list as below deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main main deb ftp://ftp.debian-multimedia.org lenny main deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian lenny non-free deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free my /etc/apt/preferences as below Package: * Pin: release a=lenny Pin-Priority: 200 Package: * Pin: release a=lenny-backports Pin-Priority: 100 where is my mistake? aptitude install Iceweasel=3.0.6 ?? Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: cannot install iceweasel 3.5 from lenny-backports
Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar wrote: i had enabled lenny-backports but aptitude -t lenny-backports install iceweasel installs Iceweasel 3.0.6 my /etc/apt/sources.list as below deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main main deb ftp://ftp.debian-multimedia.org lenny main deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian lenny non-free deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free my /etc/apt/preferences as below Package: * Pin: release a=lenny Pin-Priority: 200 Package: * Pin: release a=lenny-backports Pin-Priority: 100 where is my mistake? Woops aptitude install iceweasel=(version you want) get the full version by doing aptitude show iceweasel Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: cannot install iceweasel 3.5 from lenny-backports
On 2010-01-23 04:07 +0100, Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar wrote: i had enabled lenny-backports but aptitude -t lenny-backports install iceweasel installs Iceweasel 3.0.6 Since the backport is brand new, it simply might not be available for your architecture yet. What does apt-cache policy iceweasel print? Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: cannot install iceweasel 3.5 from lenny-backports
2010/1/23 Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de On 2010-01-23 04:07 +0100, Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar wrote: i had enabled lenny-backports but aptitude -t lenny-backports install iceweasel installs Iceweasel 3.0.6 Since the backport is brand new, it simply might not be available for your architecture yet. What does apt-cache policy iceweasel print? # apt-cache policy iceweasel iceweasel: Installed: (none) Candidate: 3.0.6-3 Version table: 3.0.6-3 0 500 http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main Packages 3.0.6-1 0 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/main Packages Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my
Re: cannot install iceweasel 3.5 from lenny-backports
2010/1/23 Wayne linux...@gmail.com linux...@gmail.com [...] aptitude install iceweasel=(version you want) get the full version by doing aptitude show iceweasel # aptitude show iceweasel Package: iceweasel State: not installed Version: 3.0.6-3 Priority: optional Section: web Maintainer: Eric Dorland e...@debian.org Uncompressed Size: 3994k Depends: fontconfig, psmisc, procps, debianutils (= 1.16), libc6 (= 2.7-1), libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.1), libglib2.0-0 (= 2.12.0), libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.12.0), libnspr4-0d (= 1.8.0.10), libstdc++6 (= 4.1.1), xulrunner-1.9 (= 1.9.0.3-1) Suggests: xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support, latex-xft-fonts, xfonts-mathml, ttf-mathematica4.1, xprint, mozplugger, libkrb53 Conflicts: firefox ( 2.0+dfsg-1), iceweasel-dom-inspector ( 3.0~b4), mozilla-firefox ( 1.5.dfsg-1) Replaces: firefox ( 2.0+dfsg-1), iceweasel-gnome-support (= 3.0~b5-2), mozilla-firefox Provides: www-browser Description: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla Iceweasel is a redesign of the Mozilla browser component, similar to Galeon, K-Meleon and Camino, but written using the XUL user interface language and designed to be lightweight and cross-platform. This browser is based on the Firefox source-code, with minor modifications. Historically, this browser was previously known as Firebird and Phoenix. How come this could have happened? Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my
Re: how to set up iceweasel 3.5 to use mutt as mailer for link sendto
* green greenfreedo...@gmail.com 09.09.2009 Michael Wagner wrote at 2009-09-08 15:11 -0500: * Michael Wagner michaeldeb...@web.de 08.09.2009 * Elimar Riesebieter riese...@lxtec.de 04.09.2009 I've tried settings - apps - mailto - shellscript Apart from my other message you can also make it like this: settings - apps - mailto - /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt But this won't work in Lenny... mutt 1.5.18-6 does not seem to include that file. You are right, it's only included in unstable mutt (1.5.20-2), but the OP wrote that he works with iceweasel 3.5 which is in experimental. So I thought a solution for unstable is ok. Michael -- To conquer oneself is the noblest and greatest triumph. -Plato signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how to set up iceweasel 3.5 to use mutt as mailer for link sendto
Michael Wagner wrote at 2009-09-09 01:10 -0500: * green greenfreedo...@gmail.com 09.09.2009 Michael Wagner wrote at 2009-09-08 15:11 -0500: * Michael Wagner michaeldeb...@web.de 08.09.2009 * Elimar Riesebieter riese...@lxtec.de 04.09.2009 I've tried settings - apps - mailto - shellscript Apart from my other message you can also make it like this: settings - apps - mailto - /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt But this won't work in Lenny... mutt 1.5.18-6 does not seem to include that file. You are right, it's only included in unstable mutt (1.5.20-2), but the OP wrote that he works with iceweasel 3.5 which is in experimental. So I thought a solution for unstable is ok. Indeed. I suppose there are many people here who run Lenny and use mutt and iceweasel; that note was for their benefit so they need not look for a file which does not exist (like I did). signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how to set up iceweasel 3.5 to use mutt as mailer for link sendto
* green [090909 07:51 -0500] Michael Wagner wrote at 2009-09-09 01:10 -0500: * green greenfreedo...@gmail.com 09.09.2009 Michael Wagner wrote at 2009-09-08 15:11 -0500: * Michael Wagner michaeldeb...@web.de 08.09.2009 * Elimar Riesebieter riese...@lxtec.de 04.09.2009 I've tried settings - apps - mailto - shellscript Apart from my other message you can also make it like this: settings - apps - mailto - /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt This is somewhat overscripted from madduck ;-) The faxt is, that my mutt (hg version from Mutt 1.5.20+lxtecppc (2009-08-04) doesn't interpret neither $@ nor $[0-9]. I'll get over to mutt-dev with this. Thanks you all EOT Elimar -- Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how to set up iceweasel 3.5 to use mutt as mailer for link sendto
also sprach Elimar Riesebieter riese...@lxtec.de [2009.09.09.1918 +0200]: This is somewhat overscripted from madduck ;-) The faxt is, that my mutt (hg version from Mutt 1.5.20+lxtecppc (2009-08-04) doesn't interpret neither $@ nor $[0-9]. I'll get over to mutt-dev with this. I don't understand. mutt has no business with $@ or $[0-9], but I think you are probably hit by #545876. Does the patch fix it for you? -- .''`. martin f. krafft madd...@d.o Related projects: : :' : proud Debian developer http://debiansystem.info `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~madduckhttp://vcs-pkg.org `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems emacs sucks, literally, not an insult, just a comment that it's large enough to have a noticeable gravitational pull... -- mercury on #debian-devel digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/)
Re: how to set up iceweasel 3.5 to use mutt as mailer for link sendto
* martin f krafft [090909 20:29 +0200] also sprach Elimar Riesebieter riese...@lxtec.de [2009.09.09.1918 +0200]: This is somewhat overscripted from madduck ;-) The faxt is, that my mutt (hg version from Mutt 1.5.20+lxtecppc (2009-08-04) doesn't interpret neither $@ nor $[0-9]. I'll get over to mutt-dev with this. I don't understand. mutt has no business with $@ or $[0-9], but I think you are probably hit by #545876. Does the patch fix it for you? No. Elimar -- We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds. -- Linus Torvalds -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how to set up iceweasel 3.5 to use mutt as mailer for link sendto
also sprach Elimar Riesebieter riese...@lxtec.de [2009.09.09.2249 +0200]: I don't understand. mutt has no business with $@ or $[0-9], but I think you are probably hit by #545876. Does the patch fix it for you? No. I'll need more information then. Maybe you can isolate the entire argument line passed to mailto-mutt (e.g. mailto:f...@bar.com?cc=a@b.comsubject=bla…) and let me know? The best way to get that is probably by substituting a script that just calls echo $@ /tmp/file -- .''`. martin f. krafft madd...@d.o Related projects: : :' : proud Debian developer http://debiansystem.info `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~madduckhttp://vcs-pkg.org `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems no, 'eureka' is greek for 'this bath is too hot.' -- dr. who digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/)
Re: how to set up iceweasel 3.5 to use mutt as mailer for link sendto
* Elimar Riesebieter riese...@lxtec.de 04.09.2009 I've tried settings - apps - mailto - shellscript Shellscript: #!/bin/sh exec xterm -e mutt $@ The xterm only pops up for 1 second. Any hints? Hello Elimar, in the mutt package is the shellscript /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt, which is the solution for your problem. These are the first lines from the script. # mailto-mutt -- wrapper to be able to use mutt as mailto handler from # firefox # # To use, surf to Firefox's about:config page and configure the # following # three values: # network.protocol-handler.external.mailto boolean true # network.protocol-handler.app.mailto string '/path/to/handler' # network.protocol-handler.warn-external.mailto boolean false Hth Michael -- Death is just God's way of dropping carrier. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how to set up iceweasel 3.5 to use mutt as mailer for link sendto
* Michael Wagner michaeldeb...@web.de 08.09.2009 * Elimar Riesebieter riese...@lxtec.de 04.09.2009 I've tried settings - apps - mailto - shellscript Apart from my other message you can also make it like this: settings - apps - mailto - /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt Hth Michael -- Every production of genius must be the production of enthusiasm. --Benjamin Disraeli signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how to set up iceweasel 3.5 to use mutt as mailer for link sendto
Michael Wagner wrote at 2009-09-08 15:11 -0500: * Michael Wagner michaeldeb...@web.de 08.09.2009 * Elimar Riesebieter riese...@lxtec.de 04.09.2009 I've tried settings - apps - mailto - shellscript Apart from my other message you can also make it like this: settings - apps - mailto - /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt But this won't work in Lenny... mutt 1.5.18-6 does not seem to include that file. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how to set up iceweasel 3.5 to use mutt as mailer for link sendto
* s. keeling [090907 02:14 +] Elimar Riesebieter riese...@lxtec.de: I've tried settings - apps - mailto - shellscript Shellscript: #!/bin/sh exec xterm -e mutt $@ The xterm only pops up for 1 second. Any hints? Ben at linuxgazette.net and I've been playing with this for years (I haven't used it in a while; caveat emptor): #!/usr/bin/perl All the contributed solutions don't extract the URL in to the mailbody of mutt in the case of choosing send link within FF3.5.2. Elimar -- .~. /V\ L I N U X /( )\ Phear the Penguin ^^-^^ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how to set up iceweasel 3.5 to use mutt as mailer for link sendto
Elimar Riesebieter riese...@lxtec.de: I've tried settings - apps - mailto - shellscript Shellscript: #!/bin/sh exec xterm -e mutt $@ The xterm only pops up for 1 second. Any hints? Ben at linuxgazette.net and I've been playing with this for years (I haven't used it in a while; caveat emptor): #!/usr/bin/perl # # pinehelper.pl - Original from Ben Okopnik of LinuxGazette.net # # i) install wherever you want, make it world execute. # # ii) edit the user's prefs.js (via about:config) in # ~/.mozilla/firefox/$blah.default: # # user_pref(network.protocol-handler.app.mailto, \ # /path/to/pinehelper); # # iii) edit $fn and geometry to taste. # # Restart FF, and clicking on a mailto:; link should fire up # an xterm running mutt. To: will already be filled in. If # the link provided a Subject:, it should be handled as well. # # 13Nov2005 Ben Okopnik 0001 Fix Firefox mailto: handling # 16Jun2007 sbk 0002 bulletproofing, strict, my(). # use diagnostics; use warnings; use strict; my ( $fn, @chunks, $key, $value, %header, $opts); # xterm font # # $fn = q(-*-*-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15); $fn = q(-*-*-medium-r-normal-*-15-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15); $geom = q(105x57-84+64); @chunks = split /[?]/, shift; for ( @chunks ) { ( $key, $value ) = split /[:=]/; # Cheap-ass entity conversion; populates %header hash as: # # key value # --- - # subject subject string # mailto w...@where.com # ( $header{ $key } = $value ) =~ s/%(..)/pack(H2,$1)/eg; } # Define Mutt switches for any headers we're interested in, including # optional ones # $opts = qq[ -s $header{subject} ] if exists $header{subject}; $opts .= $header{mailto}; exec qq(/usr/bin/xterm -fn $fn -geometry $geom -T Mutt -e /usr/bin/mutt $opts) || die qq(Blue? No, red?! A!: $!); __END__ -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
how to set up iceweasel 3.5 to use mutt as mailer for link sendto
I've tried settings - apps - mailto - shellscript Shellscript: #!/bin/sh exec xterm -e mutt $@ The xterm only pops up for 1 second. Any hints? Thanks Elimar -- It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how to set up iceweasel 3.5 to use mutt as mailer for link sendto
Elimar Riesebieter wrote: I've tried settings - apps - mailto - shellscript Shellscript: #!/bin/sh exec xterm -e mutt $@ I'm guessing mutt can't parse the mailto: line given out by iceweasel. Here's a very quick and very dirty bit of perl I knocked up; I'm not suggesting it's right, but it'll hopefully give you a starting point: #!/usr/bin/perl sub escape { $result=$_[0]; $result=~s{([\$])}{\\$1}g; return \$result\; } ($dummy, $params)=split /:/, $ARGV[0], 2; ($address, $params)=split /\?/, $params, 2; print $params\n; for $x(split //, $params) { ($key, $val)=split /=/, $x, 2; print $key: $val\n; $paramhash{$key}=$val; } $cmd=mutt; $cmd.= -s .escape($paramhash{subject}) if($paramhash{subject}); $cmd.= -c .escape($paramhash{cc}) if($paramhash{cc}); $cmd.= -b .escape($paramhash{bcc}) if($paramhash{bcc}); $cmd.= $address; print $cmd\n; exec $cmd; -- Chris Jackson Shadowcat Systems Ltd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how to set up iceweasel 3.5 to use mutt as mailer for link sendto
I've tried settings - apps - mailto - shellscript Shellscript: #!/bin/sh exec xterm -e mutt $@ The xterm only pops up for 1 second. That's very close to the script that is working for me (using Iceweasel 3.0.6 on Lenny): #!/bin/sh prefixWords= if [ -t 0 -a -t 1 ] then prefixWords= else prefixWords=xterm -e fi set -x $prefixWords mutt -- $@ I don't think your exec should cause a problem, but it may be worth trying without it. You may need the -- in case any of the arguments begins with '-'. I can't think off-hand if that is likely. By the way, the if tests whether you're running from a terminal already, and opens mutt there if you are. Otherwise it fires up an xterm. You might get some more information by temporarily changing your xterm line to exec xterm -e bash -c set -x; mutt $*; read -p 'Press enter to exit ' -- Cheers, Clive -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how to set up iceweasel 3.5 to use mutt as mailer for link sendto
* Clive Standbridge [090904 16:47 +0100] I've tried settings - apps - mailto - shellscript Shellscript: #!/bin/sh exec xterm -e mutt $@ The xterm only pops up for 1 second. That's very close to the script that is working for me (using Iceweasel 3.0.6 on Lenny): [...] exec xterm -e bash -c set -x; mutt $*; read -p 'Press enter to exit ' + subject=%3CLinux%3E%20-%20Google-Suche + read -p 'Press enter to exit ' Press enter to exit + mutt 'mailto:?body=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.de%2Flinux' Failed to parse mailto: link Mutt can't read $* This is with iceweasel 3.5.2 and Mutt 1.5.20+lxtec (2009-07-23) Elimar -- It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how to set up iceweasel 3.5 to use mutt as mailer for link sendto
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 03:00:13PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: I've tried settings - apps - mailto - shellscript Shellscript: #!/bin/sh exec xterm -e mutt $@ The xterm only pops up for 1 second. I use following in lenny and works fine: -- #!/bin/sh gnome-terminal -e mutt $@ -- these terminal softwares act not exactly the same with -e and -x options. With gnome-terminal: -e, --command=STRING Execute the argument to this option inside the terminal. -x, --execute Execute the remainder of the command line inside the terminal. With xterm: -e program [ arguments ... ] This option specifies the program (and its command line arguments) to be run in the xterm window. It also sets the win‐ dow title and icon name to be the basename of the program being executed if neither -T nor -n are given on the command line. This must be the last option on the command line. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:48:28AM -0400, S. Fishpaste wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:37:30 +1200, Chris Bannister in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 05:44:47PM -0400, S. Fishpaste wrote: [snip] So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ? http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391 Thanks for your hard work. Eh? I didn't write that blog, and besides, hard work can shorten your lifespan. -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen F Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#using Doesn't document volatile. Mentions security but doesn't really document it fully, even through the links provided. (In particular, I couldn't find what to add you my source.list for volatile or security.) Yes, I know I can edit it, but I don't have time just now. All in good time I'm sure. These FAQs are an excellent resource. As is the list archive! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkqRZr0ACgkQsUUdIDHrdAV0IQCeMY8TLw50TX6Az66F8gB3nKKq Gm8An2RwuomGCqhAdPT5Tpq+3gtQg1uJ =T9vi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:37:30 +1200, Chris Bannister in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 05:44:47PM -0400, S. Fishpaste wrote: [snip] So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ? http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391 Thanks for your hard work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mutt [Was: Iceweasel 3.5]
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:35:56 -0400, Celejar in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:16:15 -0400 S. Fishpaste s...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid wrote: ... I agree Ron, that T-Bird and to some extent Slypheed-Claws, are good examples of GUI e-mail clients that are probably best of breed. I left And what, exactly, is wrong with plain Sylph? :/ Nothing, an error of omission. Thanks for mentioning it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
In 20090816201911.gb4...@think.homelan, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed,12.Aug.09, 22:31:25, Tim Beauregard wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Volatile is for software that fails to achieve its goal if it is not updated [snip] the contents of this post would make a good FAQ. http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#using Doesn't document volatile. Mentions security but doesn't really document it fully, even through the links provided. (In particular, I couldn't find what to add you my source.list for volatile or security.) Yes, I know I can edit it, but I don't have time just now. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Wed,12.Aug.09, 19:35:21, S. Fishpaste wrote: I used XFce back in the day, now it seems bloated and slow on this P3. I've also heard it has a nasty memory leak; That has been fixed AFAICT. I also installed Xfce 4.4 on my mothers laptop (p...@1.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM) and it is quite ok. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 05:44:47PM -0400, S. Fishpaste wrote: Hello; First of all I'm not that familiar with a Linux GUI as I usually run GNU/Linux headless via CLI. I've got Lenny running Xserver-Xorg and I've noticed that the default Iceweasel aka Firefox is an older version and I prefer to run the latest. I have checked backports for stable and there doesn't appear to be a 3.5 version, so I got Mozilla's version. Only problem it depends on XUL* which wasn't available via my sources list for Lenny. So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ? http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391 -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen F Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Wed,12.Aug.09, 22:31:25, Tim Beauregard wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Volatile is for software that fails to achieve its goal if it is not updated [snip] the contents of this post would make a good FAQ. http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#using Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Mutt [Was: Iceweasel 3.5]
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:16:15 -0400 S. Fishpaste s...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid wrote: ... I agree Ron, that T-Bird and to some extent Slypheed-Claws, are good examples of GUI e-mail clients that are probably best of breed. I left And what, exactly, is wrong with plain Sylph? :/ Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:41:33 +0200, Vincent Lefevre in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On 2009-08-13 17:22:14 -0400, S. Fishpaste wrote: Wow talk about copious output, only 4002 lines. 4002 is not very much, in particular for a complex application such as Firefox. This means that Firefox has done almost nothing and a problem occurred very early. O OK I have no idea what it all means. There are lots of 'no such file/directory' warnings. Most of them can be normal. snip Look at the clone and execve to know what programs are executed. Thanks for your interest in helping Vincent. I just used the Mephis source to get and install Firefox 3.5.x as a deb. Problem solved. Cheers, Steve Toronto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mutt [Was: Iceweasel 3.5]
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:03:16 -0500, Ron Johnson in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On 2009-08-13 19:44, S. Fishpaste wrote: [snip] Yeah I have the preview pane set up similarly. You're quite right about being able to delete threads or mark them read, as being sweet. Tbird/IW has Mark Thread As Read. The threading is what's the bees knees for me. What do you mean? How is it's threading any better than Tbird's? (Unless, of course, you neglected to tell it to thread your folder using View-Sort by-Threaded.) It's been awhile since I have used T-Bird, but it's a great client. I'm not saying mutt is any better, just that for _me_ since using mutt, I haven't cared for any other e-mail client. I've tried, but keeping coming back. 8-D I agree Ron, that T-Bird and to some extent Slypheed-Claws, are good examples of GUI e-mail clients that are probably best of breed. I left T-Bird for good since it didn't have a proper reply to list function at the time, (b4 3rd party extension was available). At the time I was a regular reader/poster to this list and mutt just worked better out of the box at the time for list e-mail. FWIU the developers have recently been working on putting 'reply-to list' into T-Bird natively. Tis good, even if it took this long. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mutt [Was: Iceweasel 3.5]
On 2009-08-14 10:16, S. Fishpaste wrote: [snip] It's been awhile since I have used T-Bird, but it's a great client. I'm not saying mutt is any better, just that for _me_ since using mutt, I haven't cared for any other e-mail client. I've tried, but keeping coming back. 8-D And, of course, Mutt doesn't take 123m RES like my icedove-bin currently does... -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mutt [Was: Iceweasel 3.5]
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:18:09 -0500, Ron Johnson in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On 2009-08-14 10:16, S. Fishpaste wrote: [snip] It's been awhile since I have used T-Bird, but it's a great client. I'm not saying mutt is any better, just that for _me_ since using mutt, I haven't cared for any other e-mail client. I've tried, but keeping coming back. 8-D And, of course, Mutt doesn't take 123m RES like my icedove-bin currently does... That's true forgot about that point. And, one doesn't need X-Windows to use mutt + vi(m). ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mutt [Was: Iceweasel 3.5]
On 2009-08-14 14:22, S. Fishpaste wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:18:09 -0500, Ron Johnson in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On 2009-08-14 10:16, S. Fishpaste wrote: [snip] It's been awhile since I have used T-Bird, but it's a great client. I'm not saying mutt is any better, just that for _me_ since using mutt, I haven't cared for any other e-mail client. I've tried, but keeping coming back. 8-D And, of course, Mutt doesn't take 123m RES like my icedove-bin currently does... That's true forgot about that point. And, one doesn't need X-Windows to use mutt + vi(m). ;-) That's why I installed it, since I run Sid, and X might during any upgrade. -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
Once I got used to mutt; I found it hard to adjust to any other e-mail client. The power and flexibility is intoxicating. 8-D I've always rather thought that might be the case. A sense of empowerment is always welcome. Thanks for the suggestion. Open an Xterm window and all will be revealed. -- C. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On 2009-08-12 22:52:14 -0400, S. Fishpaste wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:21:00 +0200, Vincent Lefevre in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: Also, check that you don't have a firefox already running (maybe hidden), otherwise when you run a second instance, it will send a message to the old one and exit silently (IIRC). Good point. Twas OK though. If you still don't know the cause of the problem, I suggest something like strace -f -o strace.out ./firefox. This may be very helpful, in order to know what happens internally (in particular the files that are read, what is executed and so on). -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.org - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.org/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
S. Fishpaste wrote: Hm sounds like a plan. Do you know offhand which Debian distro has 3.5.x ? Mepis 8.0 is based on Lenny and has 3.5 compiled, you can get it using these repos if you want. deb ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/ mepis-8.0 main -- Jimmy Johnson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
Jimmy Johnson wrote: Mepis 8.0 is based on Lenny and has 3.5 compiled, you can get it using these repos if you want. deb ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/ mepis-8.0 main Hiya If you going to make a suggestion for a debian based distro, then you might as well just make it Ubuntu. Nothing wrong with Mepis, but im of the opinion, advise someone with the knowledge that there is further support if they need it, and at least an already established user market. Regards Brent Clark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Thursday 13 August 2009 04:28:56 pm Brent Clark wrote: Jimmy Johnson wrote: Mepis 8.0 is based on Lenny and has 3.5 compiled, you can get it using these repos if you want. deb ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/ mepis-8.0 main Hiya If you going to make a suggestion for a debian based distro, then you might as well just make it Ubuntu. Nothing wrong with Mepis, but im of the opinion, advise someone with the knowledge that there is further support if they need it, and at least an already established user market. Regards Brent Clark Um.. actually it makes sense to use a Mepis 8.0 repo as it has far less customizations than Ubuntu has. Mepis 8.0 itself uses Debian Lenny repos for the vast majority of software for that distro. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:45:03 -0700, Jimmy Johnson in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: S. Fishpaste wrote: Hm sounds like a plan. Do you know offhand which Debian distro has 3.5.x ? Mepis 8.0 is based on Lenny and has 3.5 compiled, you can get it using these repos if you want. deb ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/ mepis-8.0 main Hey thanks for that; way cool ! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:32:40 -0400, Charlie Kroeger in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: For e-mail; mutt is my preferred MUA. Now there's a thread. Know of any clearly written logical progressive steps for setting up mutt or is it a life's work? Does it require an excessively high IQ fish? I always found following the sample commented muttrc was useful. Takes some time to go through it though. /usr/share/doc/mutt/examples/ray.muttrc /usr/share/doc/mutt/examples/sample.muttrc-tlr.gz /usr/share/doc/mutt/examples/sample.muttrc.gz /usr/share/doc/mutt/examples/sidebar.muttrc /usr/share/man/man5/muttrc.5.gz Then when I ran into further questions, mutt-us...@mutt.org was always helpful. Once I got used to mutt; I found it hard to adjust to any other e-mail client. The power and flexibility is intoxicating. 8-D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
Brent Clark wrote: Jimmy Johnson wrote: Mepis 8.0 is based on Lenny and has 3.5 compiled, you can get it using these repos if you want. deb ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/ mepis-8.0 main If you going to make a suggestion for a debian based distro, then you might as well just make it Ubuntu. Nothing wrong with Mepis, but im of the opinion, advise someone with the knowledge that there is further support if they need it, and at least an already established user market. How do you figure? Mepis 8.0 is based on Debian Lenny not buntu, I don't think you know about Mepis support, where you will find some of the best How to guides www.mepis.org/docs/en/MEPIS_Community , besides the word is that buntu is giving it's users unwanted software Ubuntu's New Firefox Is Watching You http://tiny.cc/ckg8o . Besides MS also stands for Mark Shuttleworth. :-P -- Jimmy Johnson Running Lenny, Squeeze, Sid and my main desktop is Etch with some updated Internet applications, everything is KDE. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
S. Fishpaste wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:45:03 -0700, Jimmy Johnson in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: S. Fishpaste wrote: Hm sounds like a plan. Do you know offhand which Debian distro has 3.5.x ? Mepis 8.0 is based on Lenny and has 3.5 compiled, you can get it using these repos if you want. deb ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/ mepis-8.0 main Hey thanks for that; way cool ! You're welcome, enjoy. -- Jimmy Johnson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
* S. Fishpaste s...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid [2009 Aug 13 11:13 -0500]: Then when I ran into further questions, mutt-us...@mutt.org was always helpful. Once I got used to mutt; I found it hard to adjust to any other e-mail client. The power and flexibility is intoxicating. 8-D That and the maddening idea in all of the Mozilla mailers and Kamil as well that I have to display a message to delete it drove me largely away from them. My Mutt UI is set up so I can see the previous five or so messages above the one I'm reading. When I hit q the entire frame is the mailbox I'm browsing. Being able to wipe out entire threads with Ctl-D is the only way to keep one's sanity with busy mailing lists such as this one and Mythtv users. - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On 2009-08-13 16:38, Nate Bargmann wrote: * S. Fishpaste s...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid [2009 Aug 13 11:13 -0500]: Then when I ran into further questions, mutt-us...@mutt.org was always helpful. Once I got used to mutt; I found it hard to adjust to any other e-mail client. The power and flexibility is intoxicating. 8-D That and the maddening idea in all of the Mozilla mailers and Kamil as well that I have to display a message to delete it drove me largely That's only if you configure it for 3-pane operation. Here's a screenprint of me using 2-pane with a separate email window. http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/Two-pane.png (For those of us who must use MS Outlook at work for corporate email, this is also an extra layer of defense, since you can delete virus-laden spam w/o opening it.) away from them. My Mutt UI is set up so I can see the previous five or so messages above the one I'm reading. When I hit q the entire frame is the mailbox I'm browsing. Being able to wipe out entire threads with Ctl-D is the only way to keep one's sanity with busy mailing lists such as this one and Mythtv users. That would be handy, but Shift-PgDn Delete serves me almost as well. -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:41:35 +0200, Vincent Lefevre in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On 2009-08-12 22:52:14 -0400, S. Fishpaste wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:21:00 +0200, Vincent Lefevre in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: Also, check that you don't have a firefox already running (maybe hidden), otherwise when you run a second instance, it will send a message to the old one and exit silently (IIRC). Good point. Twas OK though. If you still don't know the cause of the problem, I suggest something like strace -f -o strace.out ./firefox. This may be very helpful, in order to know what happens internally (in particular the files that are read, what is executed and so on). Wow talk about copious output, only 4002 lines. I have no idea what it all means. There are lots of 'no such file/directory' warnings. If you're interested in the tail; 4011 ... futex resumed ) = ? ERESTART_RESTARTBLOCK (To be restarted) 4005 ... waitpid resumed [{WIFEXITED(s) WEXITSTATUS(s) == 1}], 0) = 4009 4005 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 4005 --- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) --- 4005 waitpid(-1, 0xbfe68ff8, WNOHANG) = -1 ECHILD (No child processes) 4005 sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) 4005 rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL}, {0x807ef30, [], 0}, 8) = 0 4005 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 4005 read(255, \nexit $exitcode\n..., 8176) = 16 4005 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 4005 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 4005 exit_group(1) = ? 4002 ... waitpid resumed [{WIFEXITED(s) WEXITSTATUS(s) == 1}], 0) = 4005 4002 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 4002 --- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) --- 4002 waitpid(-1, 0xbfd7b5f8, WNOHANG) = -1 ECHILD (No child processes) 4002 sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) 4002 rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL}, {0x807ef30, [], 0}, 8) = 0 4002 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 4002 read(255, exitcode=$?\n\nexit $exitcode\n# EOF..., 3883) = 35 4002 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 4002 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 4002 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 4002 exit_group(1) = ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On 2009-08-13 17:22:14 -0400, S. Fishpaste wrote: Wow talk about copious output, only 4002 lines. 4002 is not very much, in particular for a complex application such as Firefox. This means that Firefox has done almost nothing and a problem occurred very early. I have no idea what it all means. There are lots of 'no such file/directory' warnings. Most of them can be normal. If you're interested in the tail; 4011 ... futex resumed ) = ? ERESTART_RESTARTBLOCK (To be restarted) 4005 ... waitpid resumed [{WIFEXITED(s) WEXITSTATUS(s) == 1}], 0) = 4009 4005 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 4005 --- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) --- 4005 waitpid(-1, 0xbfe68ff8, WNOHANG) = -1 ECHILD (No child processes) 4005 sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) 4005 rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL}, {0x807ef30, [], 0}, 8) = 0 4005 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 4005 read(255, \nexit $exitcode\n..., 8176) = 16 4005 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 4005 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 4005 exit_group(1) = ? 4002 ... waitpid resumed [{WIFEXITED(s) WEXITSTATUS(s) == 1}], 0) = 4005 4002 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 4002 --- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) --- 4002 waitpid(-1, 0xbfd7b5f8, WNOHANG) = -1 ECHILD (No child processes) 4002 sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) 4002 rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL}, {0x807ef30, [], 0}, 8) = 0 4002 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 4002 read(255, exitcode=$?\n\nexit $exitcode\n# EOF..., 3883) = 35 4002 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 4002 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [], 8) = 0 4002 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 4002 exit_group(1) = ? It terminated with the exit status 1, meaning that an error occurred. Look at the clone and execve to know what programs are executed. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.org - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.org/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mutt [Was: Iceweasel 3.5]
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:38:31 -0500, Nate Bargmann in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: * S. Fishpaste s...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid [2009 Aug 13 11:13 -0500]: Then when I ran into further questions, mutt-us...@mutt.org was always helpful. Once I got used to mutt; I found it hard to adjust to any other e-mail client. The power and flexibility is intoxicating. 8-D That and the maddening idea in all of the Mozilla mailers and Kamil as well that I have to display a message to delete it drove me largely away from them. My Mutt UI is set up so I can see the previous five or so messages above the one I'm reading. When I hit q the entire frame is the mailbox I'm browsing. Being able to wipe out entire threads with Ctl-D is the only way to keep one's sanity with busy mailing lists such as this one and Mythtv users. Yeah I have the preview pane set up similarly. You're quite right about being able to delete threads or mark them read, as being sweet. The threading is what's the bees knees for me. At present I'm torn between using vim or jed as my editor. I've used vim since I got into Linux, in the latter part of the ninties. But, since I use slrn for nntp, I thought I'd try out JED -- Just to be loyal initally to Jim E Davis whom is the developer of both slrn, slang and JED. I found out I actually liked JEDs simplicity, (to my surprise) so now I'm using JED in slrn and vim in mutt. LOL Cheers, Steve Toronto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mutt [Was: Iceweasel 3.5]
On 2009-08-13 19:44, S. Fishpaste wrote: [snip] Yeah I have the preview pane set up similarly. You're quite right about being able to delete threads or mark them read, as being sweet. Tbird/IW has Mark Thread As Read. The threading is what's the bees knees for me. What do you mean? How is it's threading any better than Tbird's? (Unless, of course, you neglected to tell it to thread your folder using View-Sort by-Threaded.) -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ? If I were you, I would temporarily enable testing, unstable and experimental repos, grab iceweasel and dependencies from experimental and then disabling the repos. Hm sounds like a plan. Do you know offhand which Debian distro has 3.5.x ? If the experimental version needs to update a lot of libraries (many experimental packages do), and you have a good reason to want to run stable, I would instead suggest keeping with stable for almost all apps, and installing a chroot environment to run the few unstable/experimental apps you want in a more sandboxed environment. As I understand it, I think that should be enough for your need. Later, when a proper backport of iceweasel 3.5 arrives, you can use it under stable. I have successfully used this method when I wanted to install stuff form experimental or form third party sources (that I do not trust). See http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/566 for more info. Good luck. / johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
rmadison (was: Iceweasel 3.5)
On 2009-08-11 23:19:37 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Use the rmadison command The rmadison command isn't reliable. For instance: $ rmadison subversion subversion | 1.4.2dfsg1-2 | etch-m68k | source, m68k subversion | 1.4.2dfsg1-2 | oldstable | source, alpha, amd64, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc subversion | 1.5.1dfsg1-2 |stable | source, alpha, amd64, arm, armel, hppa, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc subversion | 1.5.1dfsg1-2 | unstable | hurd-i386 subversion | 1.5.1dfsg1-4 | proposed-updates | source, alpha, amd64, arm, armel, hppa, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc subversion | 1.6.3dfsg-1 | testing | source, alpha, amd64, armel, hppa, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc subversion | 1.6.3dfsg-1 | unstable | hppa, powerpc subversion | 1.6.4dfsg-1 | unstable | source, alpha, amd64, armel, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, s390, sparc while both http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=subversionsearchon=namesexact=1suite=allsection=all and http://packages.debian.org/etch/subversion say that the latest etch version is 1.4.2dfsg1-3 for most architectures (or perhaps it doesn't take security updates into account for oldstable). -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.org - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.org/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On 2009-08-12 10:35:07 +0200, Johan Grönqvist wrote: So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ? If I were you, I would temporarily enable testing, unstable and experimental repos, grab iceweasel and dependencies from experimental and then disabling the repos. Hm sounds like a plan. Do you know offhand which Debian distro has 3.5.x ? If the experimental version needs to update a lot of libraries (many experimental packages do), and you have a good reason to want to run stable, I would instead suggest keeping with stable for almost all apps, and installing a chroot environment to run the few unstable/experimental apps you want in a more sandboxed environment. IMHO, this is a bit complex. As Debian is always late, is there any reason to use Iceweasel instead of Firefox from Mozilla's site (assuming no XUL* errors)? -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.org - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.org/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:26:47 +0200, Vincent Lefevre in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On 2009-08-12 10:35:07 +0200, Johan Grönqvist wrote: So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ? If I were you, I would temporarily enable testing, unstable and experimental repos, grab iceweasel and dependencies from experimental and then disabling the repos. Hm sounds like a plan. Do you know offhand which Debian distro has 3.5.x ? If the experimental version needs to update a lot of libraries (many experimental packages do), and you have a good reason to want to run stable, I would instead suggest keeping with stable for almost all apps, and installing a chroot environment to run the few unstable/experimental apps you want in a more sandboxed environment. IMHO, this is a bit complex. As Debian is always late, is there any reason to use Iceweasel instead of Firefox from Mozilla's site (assuming no XUL* errors)? That's the problem I'm running into Vincent; XUL libs with the binary I downloaded from Mozilla.org I just got Google Chrome going -- OK can't use Flash yet, but at least it's pretty fast on this old laptop; faster than on my dual core x64 workstation. Go figure. Maybe I can pass on Iceweasel all toghether now. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.org - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.org/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:35:07 +0200, Johan Grönqvist in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ? If I were you, I would temporarily enable testing, unstable and experimental repos, grab iceweasel and dependencies from experimental and then disabling the repos. Hm sounds like a plan. Do you know offhand which Debian distro has 3.5.x ? If the experimental version needs to update a lot of libraries (many experimental packages do), and you have a good reason to want to run stable, I would instead suggest keeping with stable for almost all apps, and installing a chroot environment to run the few unstable/experimental apps you want in a more sandboxed environment. As I understand it, I think that should be enough for your need. Later, when a proper backport of iceweasel 3.5 arrives, you can use it under stable. Right. I think I'd rather wait until either backports or volatile has it. Speaking of Volatile isn't this the purpose of it; For packages like web browsers which are updated frequently ? At least that has been my understanding of it. I have successfully used this method when I wanted to install stuff form experimental or form third party sources (that I do not trust). See http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/566 for more info. Good luck. Thanks for the reply Johan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:52:27 -0400, Charlie Kroeger in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ? You could put these sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list and do an #apt-get update deb http://ftp.tiscali.nl/debian/ sid main contrib non-free If you have a GUI type package manager like smartpm it will show a list of all the available versions of Ice Weasel after the update. If not that then #apt-cache showpkg package will give a lot of verbose information regarding versions dependencies and anything with the word iceweasel in it including the versions in your package cache As a last resort if you have problems with the dependencies running lenny you can always go to /etc/apt/apt.conf and put in the line: APT::Default-Release sid; Well I was primarily wanting to stay with stable as this is an older laptop and other than wanting an uptodate browser *always* I'd prefer to use backports. Wonder why either backports or volatile don't carry the latest versions of Iceweasel|Firefox. I thought that was the purpose of those 2 sources. Walk on the wild side. LOL I've done that enough. After the upgrade you will have iceweasel 3.5.1-1 Right. Thanks for the input. 8-D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:22:16 -0500, Ron Johnson in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On 2009-08-11 22:04, S. Fishpaste wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:24:44 -0500, Ron Johnson in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On 2009-08-11 16:44, S. Fishpaste wrote: [ ...] I have checked backports for stable and there doesn't appear to be a 3.5 version, so I got Mozilla's version. Only problem it depends on XUL* which wasn't available via my sources list for Lenny. That doesn't sound right. The Mozilla binary should come with the proper XUL. Yeah I know, nevertheless that's the error message. What *exactly* is the error message? Run it from an xterm (AFTER having removed Lenny's iceweasel and xulrunner), then paste the command invocation along with any messages. Yup that was what I was doing to get the error message initially; :~/firefox-3.5.2$ ./firefox-bin ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On 2009-08-12 13:23:08 -0400, S. Fishpaste wrote: That's the problem I'm running into Vincent; XUL libs with the binary I downloaded from Mozilla.org Do you have a $LD_LIBRARY_PATH? -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.org - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.org/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
In slrnh85u4r.531@laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org, S. Fishpaste wrote: Well I was primarily wanting to stay with stable as this is an older laptop and other than wanting an uptodate browser *always* I'd prefer to use backports. Wonder why either backports or volatile don't carry the latest versions of Iceweasel|Firefox. I thought that was the purpose of those 2 sources. Volatile is for software that fails to achieve its goal if it is not updated much more often than stable, such as anti-virus and anti-spam. The browsers that are part of stable still function (I use them). I believe FF was in volatile-sloppy for a while, and I would not object to it living there again. Backports is for any software has been released since stable that can run in the environment provided by stable (which generally means running on older libraries). The Mozilla products generally require a number of components to be incompatibly replaced with new versions, which can make them unsuitable for Backports. Sometimes backports of the Mozilla products to appear though. Sid is for software that the maintainer feels could be suitable for a Debian release. Generally, this is not VCS snapshots, alphas, or betas. It might also exclude some RCs. For the KDE project, it even excluded two releases of KDE 4. The software should have a maintainable API/ABI and be usable (as in, not crashy and contains enough features) for the majority of the users it targets. Experimental is for packages that are not suitable for Sid, for whatever reason. The packaging could be undergoing complex changes and may not install the majority of machines. The software itself might be unreleased by upstream, but upstream or the maintainer are eliciting feedback. In all cases, packages are only available as the packagers have time to build and upload them. Want more up-to-date packages? Get to work! -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
S. Fishpaste writes: Speaking of Volatile isn't this the purpose of it; For packages like web browsers which are updated frequently ? No. It is for packages such as antivirus programs that must be updated frequently to be useful. Upstream hyperactivity does not justify putting a package in volatile. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On 2009-08-12 19:15 +0200, S. Fishpaste wrote: Well I was primarily wanting to stay with stable as this is an older laptop and other than wanting an uptodate browser *always* I'd prefer to use backports. Wonder why either backports or volatile don't carry the latest versions of Iceweasel|Firefox. I thought that was the purpose of those 2 sources. Somebody has to provide them first. As a general rule, backports are only made for packages that are in testing, and Iceweasel 3.5 has not even hit unstable yet. Given that the maintainers of Mozilla packages in Debian are totally overworked and understaffed, I don't think that backports will be made any time soon. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On 2009-08-12 12:27, S. Fishpaste wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:22:16 -0500, Ron Johnson in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On 2009-08-11 22:04, S. Fishpaste wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:24:44 -0500, Ron Johnson in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On 2009-08-11 16:44, S. Fishpaste wrote: [ ...] I have checked backports for stable and there doesn't appear to be a 3.5 version, so I got Mozilla's version. Only problem it depends on XUL* which wasn't available via my sources list for Lenny. That doesn't sound right. The Mozilla binary should come with the proper XUL. Yeah I know, nevertheless that's the error message. What *exactly* is the error message? Run it from an xterm (AFTER having removed Lenny's iceweasel and xulrunner), then paste the command invocation along with any messages. Yup that was what I was doing to get the error message initially; :~/firefox-3.5.2$ ./firefox-bin ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory That's... weird. I ran both 3.5 and 3.5.1 for a while on a Sid system with IW 3.0.12 and it ran perfectly. Next, I'd try locate libxul.so. -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:27:05 -0400 S. Fishpaste s...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid wrote: Yup that was what I was doing to get the error message initially; :~/firefox-3.5.2$ ./firefox-bin ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory You're not meant to run ./firefox-bin, you're meant to run ./firefox Try that and it should work. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On 2009-08-12 15:11, Graham wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:27:05 -0400 S. Fishpaste s...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid wrote: Yup that was what I was doing to get the error message initially; :~/firefox-3.5.2$ ./firefox-bin ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory You're not meant to run ./firefox-bin, you're meant to run ./firefox Try that and it should work. Grrr. Why didn't I notice that??? -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:45:46 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: --nextPart1623703.JhhgrbnWO2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline In slrnh85u4r.531@laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org, S. Fishpaste wrote: Well I was primarily wanting to stay with stable as this is an older laptop and other than wanting an uptodate browser *always* I'd prefer to use backports. Wonder why either backports or volatile don't carry the latest versions of Iceweasel|Firefox. I thought that was the purpose of those 2 sources. Volatile is for software that fails to achieve its goal if it is not update= d=20 much more often than stable, such as anti-virus and anti-spam. The browser= s=20 that are part of stable still function (I use them). I believe FF was in=20 volatile-sloppy for a while, and I would not object to it living there=20 again. Backports is for any software has been released since stable that can run i= n=20 the environment provided by stable (which generally means running on older= =20 libraries). The Mozilla products generally require a number of components= =20 to be incompatibly replaced with new versions, which can make them=20 unsuitable for Backports. Sometimes backports of the Mozilla products to=20 appear though. Sid is for software that the maintainer feels could be suitable for a Debia= n=20 release. Generally, this is not VCS snapshots, alphas, or betas. It might= =20 also exclude some RCs. For the KDE project, it even excluded two releases= =20 of KDE 4. The software should have a maintainable API/ABI and be usable (a= s=20 in, not crashy and contains enough features) for the majority of the users= =20 it targets. Experimental is for packages that are not suitable for Sid, for whatever=20 reason. The packaging could be undergoing complex changes and may not=20 install the majority of machines. The software itself might be unreleased= =20 by upstream, but upstream or the maintainer are eliciting feedback. Thanks for the detailed explanation. In all cases, packages are only available as the packagers have time to=20 build and upload them. Want more up-to-date packages? Get to work! Well I guess a start would be for me to read up on backports to see if I have the necssary expertise. ;-D Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,=3D ,-_-. =3D. b...@iguanasuicide.net((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/ --nextPart1623703.JhhgrbnWO2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --nextPart1623703.JhhgrbnWO2-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:39:51 -0500, John Hasler in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: S. Fishpaste writes: Speaking of Volatile isn't this the purpose of it; For packages like web browsers which are updated frequently ? No. It is for packages such as antivirus programs that must be updated frequently to be useful. Upstream hyperactivity does not justify putting a package in volatile. Hi John, I respect your opinion as I've read your posts over the years, however; In my opinion Firefox updates are more than mere hyperactivity and are as useful as much as antivirus updates. shrug In a normal laptop/workstation GUI environment few applications are as important as a web browser (especially these days). A web worker for example relies on a web browser pretty heavily. Not everyone using Debian is using it on a server, you know. ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 2:23 PM, S. Fishpastes...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:26:47 +0200, Vincent Lefevre in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On 2009-08-12 10:35:07 +0200, Johan Grönqvist wrote: So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ? If I were you, I would temporarily enable testing, unstable and experimental repos, grab iceweasel and dependencies from experimental and then disabling the repos. Hm sounds like a plan. Do you know offhand which Debian distro has 3.5.x ? If the experimental version needs to update a lot of libraries (many experimental packages do), and you have a good reason to want to run stable, I would instead suggest keeping with stable for almost all apps, and installing a chroot environment to run the few unstable/experimental apps you want in a more sandboxed environment. IMHO, this is a bit complex. As Debian is always late, is there any reason to use Iceweasel instead of Firefox from Mozilla's site (assuming no XUL* errors)? That's the problem I'm running into Vincent; XUL libs with the binary I downloaded from Mozilla.org I just got Google Chrome going -- OK can't use Flash yet, but at least it's pretty fast on this old laptop; faster than on my dual core x64 workstation. Go figure. Maybe I can pass on Iceweasel all toghether now. You can use flash on it, actually. Assuming you have flash for Iceweasel installed from debian-multimedia, do: # cd /opt/google/chrome # mkdir plugins # cd plugins # ln -s /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so Then, start Chrome by issuing: $ google-chrome --enable-plugins and Flash works! Cheers, Cassiano Leal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:41:59 +0200, Sven Joachim in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On 2009-08-12 19:15 +0200, S. Fishpaste wrote: Well I was primarily wanting to stay with stable as this is an older laptop and other than wanting an uptodate browser *always* I'd prefer to use backports. Wonder why either backports or volatile don't carry the latest versions of Iceweasel|Firefox. I thought that was the purpose of those 2 sources. Somebody has to provide them first. As a general rule, backports are only made for packages that are in testing, and Iceweasel 3.5 has not even hit unstable yet. OIC Given that the maintainers of Mozilla packages in Debian are totally overworked and understaffed, I don't think that backports will be made any time soon. Fair enough. 8-D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
In slrnh8683n.531@laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org, S. Fishpaste wrote: In a normal laptop/workstation GUI environment few applications are as important as a web browser (especially these days). A web worker for example relies on a web browser pretty heavily. Not everyone using Debian is using it on a server, you know. ;-) I have been quite happy with the Konqueror in Squeeze along-side the IceWeasel in Lenny and I use a web-browser for work every day. I can understand the desire to update if IW fails to render some page you require for work. I think most users should be able to work with the Debian- supported version in Lenny. If you find a bug in stable/testing/unstable/experimental (like a web page that doesn't render properly, or a plug-in that breaks), you should really file a bug so that Debian can backport a fix once the Mozilla team produces one. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Volatile is for software that fails to achieve its goal if it is not updated [snip] the contents of this post would make a good FAQ. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkqDNKwACgkQsUUdIDHrdAU+0ACfS9exXq0BlS4cddjLfTPpyeRm lgIAnRGcu9MDe4LnLeqPr+6xxMNtIwIY =ushI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
Well I was primarily wanting to stay with stable as this is an older laptop Hummm..well you could try Opera. They have a lighter faster up-to-scratch browser. Put this in your sources.list: deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ sid non-free #apt-get update #apt-get install opera Can't hurt. If you're like me and don't use a desktop environment you can go fly weight with opera for mail and newsgroups that comes included. Opera isn't as manifold as iceweasel say, you wouldn't want to use it with tor for instance, as they don't do SOCKS but it doesn't bring a lot of baggage. I don't recall any recent upgrades so I guess you could say it was in the stable camp but that deb source is sid and whatever they offer will be their going beta version. If you like to see it a lot run this: #update-alternatives --config x-www-browser select it from the list to make it the 'default' browser for your Debian laptop. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:53:56 -0500, Ron Johnson in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On 2009-08-12 12:27, S. Fishpaste wrote: [ ...] Yeah I know, nevertheless that's the error message. What *exactly* is the error message? Run it from an xterm (AFTER having removed Lenny's iceweasel and xulrunner), then paste the command invocation along with any messages. Yup that was what I was doing to get the error message initially; :~/firefox-3.5.2$ ./firefox-bin ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory That's... weird. I ran both 3.5 and 3.5.1 for a while on a Sid system with IW 3.0.12 and it ran perfectly. Next, I'd try locate libxul.so. Yup; I have it but it's version 1.9 which is probably too old ? It's in /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9/libxul.so Anyway, now that I've got Xserver.Xorg running good in Lenny, I'll probably upgrade to Testing, since you had FF 3.5.x working there. Thanks ! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:11:09 +0100, Graham in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:27:05 -0400 S. Fishpaste s...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid wrote: Yup that was what I was doing to get the error message initially; :~/firefox-3.5.2$ ./firefox-bin ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory You're not meant to run ./firefox-bin, you're meant to run ./firefox Try that and it should work. Really ?! I had tried that; didn't seem to do anything just exited without echoing any error message in xterm. Too tired to read /var/log just now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:31:25 +0100, Tim Beauregard in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Volatile is for software that fails to achieve its goal if it is not updated [snip] the contents of this post would make a good FAQ. Indeed it would. Is there a cite for it (I'm not saying it's NOT correct). Just crossing the T's and dotting the I's. I don't mind putting it on my KNOL which already has a writeup on getting Debian Lenny installed on Old World PPC Mac architecture. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:30:47 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: --nextPart4349252.rWh3h2apeg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline In slrnh8683n.531@laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org, S. Fishpaste wrote: In a normal laptop/workstation GUI environment few applications are as important as a web browser (especially these days). A web worker for example relies on a web browser pretty heavily. Not everyone using Debian is using it on a server, you know. ;-) I have been quite happy with the Konqueror in Squeeze along-side the=20 IceWeasel in Lenny and I use a web-browser for work every day. I can=20 understand the desire to update if IW fails to render some page you require= =20 for work. I think most users should be able to work with the Debian- supported version in Lenny. Well yes and no. There are *significant* speed increases in the FF 3.5 branch. Kongi is OK, it's using webkit now FWIU. So, it and Chrome should be similar. I have to admit to being partial to Chrome. I like it's minimalistic approach, extension support is coming along nicely and will be in the Linux version soon. I do have Google Chrome running excellent (it's quite faster than it was in Windoze XP-Pro which was on this laptop until just recently. I don't run Gnome or KDE as my laptop is rather ancient, circa 2001. So no Konqueror (It's my netbook). I'm using Icewm and finding it to be nice and light. I used XFce back in the day, now it seems bloated and slow on this P3. I've also heard it has a nasty memory leak; but Icewm has survived, as I remember it. Yeah, Iknow I could install some KDE libs to be able to use Kongi, but presently my system partition is 60% full (remember oldish laptop, smaller HDD) so I think it's full enough. ;-) If you find a bug in stable/testing/unstable/experimental (like a web page= =20 that doesn't render properly, or a plug-in that breaks), you should really= =20 file a bug so that Debian can backport a fix once the Mozilla team produces= =20 one. O OK. Cheers. Steve Toronto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:57:19 -0300, Cassiano Leal in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 2:23 PM, S. Fishpastes...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid wrote: [ ...] I just got Google Chrome going -- OK can't use Flash yet, but at least it's pretty fast on this old laptop; faster than on my dual core x64 workstation. Go figure. Maybe I can pass on Iceweasel all toghether now. You can use flash on it, actually. Assuming you have flash for Iceweasel installed from debian-multimedia, do: # cd /opt/google/chrome # mkdir plugins # cd plugins # ln -s /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so Then, start Chrome by issuing: $ google-chrome --enable-plugins and Flash works! nod I've heard that as I read chromium-users and chromium-develop. I understood itcauses 100% CPU load ? If that's the case, I can do without it on this older hardware. I'll use my Vista box which has HD video card/Widescreen if I want to view videos on YouTube. But good of you to post the instructions. Others may want to try that with Google Chrome ! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On 2009-08-12 19:39:10 -0400, S. Fishpaste wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:11:09 +0100, Graham in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:27:05 -0400 S. Fishpaste s...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid wrote: Yup that was what I was doing to get the error message initially; :~/firefox-3.5.2$ ./firefox-bin ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory You're not meant to run ./firefox-bin, you're meant to run ./firefox Try that and it should work. Really ?! I had tried that; didn't seem to do anything just exited without echoing any error message in xterm. Too tired to read /var/log just now. In any case you must not run firefox-bin directly because it won't use the right libraries. Also, check that you don't have a firefox already running (maybe hidden), otherwise when you run a second instance, it will send a message to the old one and exit silently (IIRC). -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.org - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.org/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:39:10 -0400 S. Fishpaste s...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid wrote: You're not meant to run ./firefox-bin, you're meant to run ./firefox Try that and it should work. Really ?! I had tried that; didn't seem to do anything just exited without echoing any error message in xterm. Too tired to read /var/log just now. Yeah, that's how I've done it for years whenever I've used the extracted tar.gz method. Scroll down to about halfway down the Mozilla Support page below to see it's Mozilla's way, too: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Installing+Firefox+on+Linux Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
In slrnh86lad.531@laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org, S. Fishpaste wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:31:25 +0100, Tim Beauregard in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Volatile is for software that fails to achieve its goal if it is not updated the contents of this post would make a good FAQ. Indeed it would. Is there a cite for it (I'm not saying it's NOT correct). I don't have one handy. debian-policy is the final say so, but that was a summary of my experience in using all 4 repositories to supplement my Etch and Lenny systems. Most times, when I'm wrong someone is quick to correct me, but there the ratio of DDs on this list is lower than some of the others to which I post. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:49:07 -0400, Charlie Kroeger in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: Well I was primarily wanting to stay with stable as this is an older laptop Hummm..well you could try Opera. They have a lighter faster up-to-scratch browser. LOL Geez browser choice is almost religous with some people. 8-D snip Opera source list Can't hurt. If you're like me and don't use a desktop environment you can go fly weight with opera for mail and newsgroups that comes included. Opera isn't as manifold as iceweasel say, you wouldn't want to use it with tor for instance, as they don't do SOCKS but it doesn't bring a lot of baggage. I've never been a fan of Opera. I dunno what it is, but over the years I just couldn't get to like it or become comfortable with it -- Maybe it's the interface. I guess it's just one of those things. shrug For e-mail; mutt is my preferred MUA. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:21:00 +0200, Vincent Lefevre in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On 2009-08-12 19:39:10 -0400, S. Fishpaste wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:11:09 +0100, Graham in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: [ ...] You're not meant to run ./firefox-bin, you're meant to run ./firefox Try that and it should work. Really ?! I had tried that; didn't seem to do anything just exited without echoing any error message in xterm. Too tired to read /var/log just now. In any case you must not run firefox-bin directly because it won't use the right libraries. OK Also, check that you don't have a firefox already running (maybe hidden), otherwise when you run a second instance, it will send a message to the old one and exit silently (IIRC). Good point. Twas OK though. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
For e-mail; mutt is my preferred MUA. Now there's a thread. Know of any clearly written logical progressive steps for setting up mutt or is it a life's work? Does it require an excessively high IQ fish? -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Iceweasel 3.5
Hello; First of all I'm not that familiar with a Linux GUI as I usually run GNU/Linux headless via CLI. I've got Lenny running Xserver-Xorg and I've noticed that the default Iceweasel aka Firefox is an older version and I prefer to run the latest. I have checked backports for stable and there doesn't appear to be a 3.5 version, so I got Mozilla's version. Only problem it depends on XUL* which wasn't available via my sources list for Lenny. So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On 2009-08-11 16:44, S. Fishpaste wrote: Hello; First of all I'm not that familiar with a Linux GUI as I usually run GNU/Linux headless via CLI. I've got Lenny running Xserver-Xorg and I've noticed that the default Iceweasel aka Firefox is an older version and I prefer to run the latest. I have checked backports for stable and there doesn't appear to be a 3.5 version, so I got Mozilla's version. Only problem it depends on XUL* which wasn't available via my sources list for Lenny. That doesn't sound right. The Mozilla binary should come with the proper XUL. So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ? -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-08-11 16:44, S. Fishpaste wrote: Hello; First of all I'm not that familiar with a Linux GUI as I usually run GNU/Linux headless via CLI. I've got Lenny running Xserver-Xorg and I've noticed that the default Iceweasel aka Firefox is an older version and I prefer to run the latest. I have checked backports for stable and there doesn't appear to be a 3.5 version, so I got Mozilla's version. Only problem it depends on XUL* which wasn't available via my sources list for Lenny. That doesn't sound right. The Mozilla binary should come with the proper XUL. I agree. AFAIK, the Mozilla binary is completely self-contained, thus not requiring any external libraries. So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ? If I were you, I would temporarily enable testing, unstable and experimental repos, grab iceweasel and dependencies from experimental and then disabling the repos. You could always try and download the individual packages from a mirror and install them with dpkg, but it can be quite tricky to get all dependencies this way. Cheers, Cassiano Leal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ? You could put these sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list and do an #apt-get update deb http://ftp.tiscali.nl/debian/ sid main contrib non-free If you have a GUI type package manager like smartpm it will show a list of all the available versions of Ice Weasel after the update. If not that then #apt-cache showpkg package will give a lot of verbose information regarding versions dependencies and anything with the word iceweasel in it including the versions in your package cache As a last resort if you have problems with the dependencies running lenny you can always go to /etc/apt/apt.conf and put in the line: APT::Default-Release sid; Walk on the wild side. After the upgrade you will have iceweasel 3.5.1-1 -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:17:14 -0300, Cassiano Leal in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: That doesn't sound right. The Mozilla binary should come with the proper XUL. I agree. AFAIK, the Mozilla binary is completely self-contained, thus not requiring any external libraries. shrug That's the error message. Strange but true. So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ? If I were you, I would temporarily enable testing, unstable and experimental repos, grab iceweasel and dependencies from experimental and then disabling the repos. Hm sounds like a plan. Do you know offhand which Debian distro has 3.5.x ? You could always try and download the individual packages from a mirror and install them with dpkg, but it can be quite tricky to get all dependencies this way. No doubt. :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:24:44 -0500, Ron Johnson in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On 2009-08-11 16:44, S. Fishpaste wrote: [ ...] I have checked backports for stable and there doesn't appear to be a 3.5 version, so I got Mozilla's version. Only problem it depends on XUL* which wasn't available via my sources list for Lenny. That doesn't sound right. The Mozilla binary should come with the proper XUL. Yeah I know, nevertheless that's the error message. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
S. Fishpaste wrote: If I were you, I would temporarily enable testing, unstable and experimental repos, grab iceweasel and dependencies from experimental and then disabling the repos. Hm sounds like a plan. Do you know offhand which Debian distro has 3.5.x ? Use the rmadison command $rmadison iceweasel iceweasel | 2.0.0.3-1 | etch-m68k | source, m68k iceweasel | 2.0.0.19-0etch1 | oldstable | source, alpha, amd64, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc iceweasel |3.0.6-1 |stable | source, alpha, amd64, arm, armel, hppa, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc iceweasel | 3.0.12-1 | testing | source, alpha, amd64, armel, hppa, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc iceweasel | 3.0.12-1 | unstable | source, alpha, amd64, armel, hppa, hurd-i386, i386, ia64, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc iceweasel |3.5.1-1 | experimental | source, alpha, amd64, hppa, i386, ia64, powerpc, s390, sparc hth raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
On 2009-08-11 22:04, S. Fishpaste wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:24:44 -0500, Ron Johnson in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: On 2009-08-11 16:44, S. Fishpaste wrote: [ ...] I have checked backports for stable and there doesn't appear to be a 3.5 version, so I got Mozilla's version. Only problem it depends on XUL* which wasn't available via my sources list for Lenny. That doesn't sound right. The Mozilla binary should come with the proper XUL. Yeah I know, nevertheless that's the error message. What *exactly* is the error message? Run it from an xterm (AFTER having removed Lenny's iceweasel and xulrunner), then paste the command invocation along with any messages. -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel 3.5
Charlie Kroeger wrote: So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ? You could put these sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list and do an #apt-get update deb http://ftp.tiscali.nl/debian/ sid main contrib non-free If you have a GUI type package manager like smartpm it will show a list of all the available versions of Ice Weasel after the update. If not that then #apt-cache showpkg package will give a lot of verbose information regarding versions dependencies and anything with the word iceweasel in it including the versions in your package cache As a last resort if you have problems with the dependencies running lenny you can always go to /etc/apt/apt.conf and put in the line: APT::Default-Release sid; If there were an award for informative responses, you would win for this :) -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: iceweasel 3.5?
Soren Orel wrote: When will Iceweasel 3.5 come to Debian Lenny? :P A Lenny backport is a step closer, as it was just uploaded to experimental: http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391 - Chris B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: iceweasel 3.5?
Chris Burkhardt wrote: Soren Orel wrote: When will Iceweasel 3.5 come to Debian Lenny? :P A Lenny backport is a step closer, as it was just uploaded to experimental: http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391 And even better, Mike Hommey just posted step-by-step instructions on installing Iceweasel 3.5 on Lenny: http://glandium.org/blog/?p=406 - Chris B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: iceweasel 3.5?
By the way, how could I update Iceweasel browser in order to always run a safer version in my machine ? Is it through apt-get update ? Thanks 2009/7/1 Soren Orel soren.o...@gmail.com When will Iceweasel 3.5 come to Debian Lenny? :P I hope this bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=525938 is fixed in Iceweasel 3.5, because with 3.0.6, (up-to-date Lenny) the https://addons.mozilla.org/hu/firefox/addon/4364 is still not working properly :(
Re: iceweasel 3.5?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duque Gorlois wrote: By the way, how could I update Iceweasel browser in order to always run a safer version in my machine ? Is it through apt-get update ? Yes. The stable version of iceweasel gets security updates from debian's security team. The security fixes are backported to the version in lenny/stable. The idea is that no new features and/or bugs and/or (unknown) security problems are introduced into a stable debian system. Upstream (mozilla) always fix security issues with a new version that usually also contains new features and thus may contain new bugs etc. Johannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpM3CMACgkQC1NzPRl9qEUo7ACfWJgw+ATsV1DrcqmP94DlZMl1 ngwAn2KMqceZGZfxuRfrH+O0n8gm6an6 =TyZB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: iceweasel 3.5?
Thanks a lot Johannes ! 2009/7/2 Johannes Wiedersich johan...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duque Gorlois wrote: By the way, how could I update Iceweasel browser in order to always run a safer version in my machine ? Is it through apt-get update ? Yes. The stable version of iceweasel gets security updates from debian's security team. The security fixes are backported to the version in lenny/stable. The idea is that no new features and/or bugs and/or (unknown) security problems are introduced into a stable debian system. Upstream (mozilla) always fix security issues with a new version that usually also contains new features and thus may contain new bugs etc. Johannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpM3CMACgkQC1NzPRl9qEUo7ACfWJgw+ATsV1DrcqmP94DlZMl1 ngwAn2KMqceZGZfxuRfrH+O0n8gm6an6 =TyZB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org