Is SWEN back?

2004-04-19 Thread Marc Shapiro
I hadn't seen any SWEN in months, so I slipped up and posted a few 
messages to the list using my regular account (instead of this HOTMAIL 
account set up only for posting to debian-user and receiving all of my 
SWEN).  Yesterday, I received what looked like a SWEN e-mail.  The 
subject was Security Update.  The payload had already been stripped, 
so I don't know if the size matched SWEN, or not.  Has anyone else 
started receiving SWEN again (or has it been out there all along, and I 
have just been lucky)?

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Re: Is SWEN back?

2004-04-19 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 12:14:15PM -0400, Marc Shapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I hadn't seen any SWEN in months, 

Until I finally caved and activated my ISP's virus blocking/stripping
solution (I'd rather just block the fsckers at SMTP time -- and *shock*,
my ISP appears to be doing this at least sometime now), I was seeing
perhaps 20-40 a day.  Well down from peak.  But not even hardly gone.

Mostly coming from highly rfc-ignorant domains / ASNs.

 so I slipped up and posted a few messages to the list using my regular
 account (instead of this HOTMAIL account set up only for posting to
 debian-user and receiving all of my SWEN).  Yesterday, I received what
 looked like a SWEN e-mail.  The subject was Security Update.  The
 payload had already been stripped, so I don't know if the size matched
 SWEN, or not.  Has anyone else started receiving SWEN again (or has it
 been out there all along, and I have just been lucky)?

There are numerous malware engines which scan recent Usenet posts (d-u
is gatewayed to several groups) and will generate spam to people
posting.

While viruses don't _infect_ GNU/Linux systems, they do _affect_ them,
and appropriate AV filtering of mail can be useful.


Peace.

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Re: Is SWEN back?

2004-04-19 Thread Katipo
Marc Shapiro wrote:

I hadn't seen any SWEN in months, so I slipped up and posted a few 
messages to the list using my regular account (instead of this HOTMAIL 
account set up only for posting to debian-user and receiving all of my 
SWEN).  Yesterday, I received what looked like a SWEN e-mail.  The 
subject was Security Update.  The payload had already been stripped, 
so I don't know if the size matched SWEN, or not.  Has anyone else 
started receiving SWEN again (or has it been out there all along, and 
I have just been lucky)?


You've been lucky.
Regards,
David.

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Re: Is SWEN back?

2004-04-19 Thread hugo vanwoerkom
Marc Shapiro wrote:
I hadn't seen any SWEN in months, so I slipped up and posted a few 
messages to the list using my regular account (instead of this HOTMAIL 
account set up only for posting to debian-user and receiving all of my 
SWEN).  Yesterday, I received what looked like a SWEN e-mail.  The 
subject was Security Update.  The payload had already been stripped, 
so I don't know if the size matched SWEN, or not.  Has anyone else 
started receiving SWEN again (or has it been out there all along, and I 
have just been lucky)?


I ignorantly gave the good email address to a window$ user and sure 
enough, the 145K at a clip sven's are there now :-(

Hugo

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Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Alphonse Ogulla
Got 200 plus mail bombs in my pop3 account this morning. Luckily I used Kmail 
and filtered (deleted) every incoming message of size greater than 40Kb. Just 
wondering, is swen back from holiday? How you people managing?

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Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Alphonse Ogulla ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Got 200 plus mail bombs in my pop3 account this morning. Luckily I
 used Kmail and filtered (deleted) every incoming message of size
 greater than 40Kb. Just wondering, is swen back from holiday? How you
 people managing?

From my point of view, it looks like it never really went away. Over the
last months, I get between 30 to 50 of this viruses, mostly swen, every
day. Sometimes until the daily forwarding quota for my bigfoot account
is exceeded.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Lou Losee
* Alphonse Ogulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-19 08:01]:
 Got 200 plus mail bombs in my pop3 account this morning. Luckily I used Kmail 
 and filtered (deleted) every incoming message of size greater than 40Kb. Just 
 wondering, is swen back from holiday? How you people managing?
 
I have been getting hit again too.  I assumed it was people that
received computers for the holiday and were quickly infected.

Lou Losee


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Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread John Conover
Andreas Janssen writes:
 
 Alphonse Ogulla ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  Got 200 plus mail bombs in my pop3 account this morning. Luckily I
  used Kmail and filtered (deleted) every incoming message of size
  greater than 40Kb. Just wondering, is swen back from holiday? How you
  people managing?
 
 From my point of view, it looks like it never really went away. Over the
 last months, I get between 30 to 50 of this viruses, mostly swen, every
 day. Sometimes until the daily forwarding quota for my bigfoot account
 is exceeded.


FYI, if you are running procmail in a shell account:

:0 BD
* ^(T(24gRXJ|V(oAAAI|pQAAI|psAAE|qQAAM))|(UEsDBBQ))
/dev/null

in your ~/.procmailrc will catch most M$ executables in your e-mail
and trash them.

Be advised that if you expect executables in your e-mail, it will
trash them too, as well as zipped files-so you would have to make a
policy on that.

John

BTW, the recipe looks for the base64 encoded M$ executable
header/loader information in the beginning of the file in the e-mail
body. See /usr/share/misc/magic for particulars.

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Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:18:09 +0300, Alphonse Ogulla wrote:

 Got 200 plus mail bombs in my pop3 account this morning. Luckily I used Kmail 
 and filtered (deleted) every incoming message of size greater than 40Kb. Just 
 wondering, is swen back from holiday? How you people managing?

I've been getting over a dozen a day for the last couple of months :(

Most are undeliverable mail messages of one sort or another, with the
occasional Microsoft Security Update thrown in.

At least my ISP's virus scanning software removes the payloads.

I am, perversely, relieved to see your post.  I was beginning to think
that it was just me.

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Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:18:09PM +0300, Alphonse Ogulla wrote:
 Got 200 plus mail bombs in my pop3 account this morning.

Do this to your mail server: http://ursine.ca/~baloo/clamd-exiscan.txt

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Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

John Conover ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Andreas Janssen writes:
 
 Alphonse Ogulla ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  Got 200 plus mail bombs in my pop3 account this morning. Luckily I
  used Kmail and filtered (deleted) every incoming message of size
  greater than 40Kb. Just wondering, is swen back from holiday? How
  you people managing?
 
 From my point of view, it looks like it never really went away. Over
 the last months, I get between 30 to 50 of this viruses, mostly swen,
 every day. Sometimes until the daily forwarding quota for my bigfoot
 account is exceeded.

 FYI, if you are running procmail in a shell account:
 
 :0 BD
 * ^(T(24gRXJ|V(oAAAI|pQAAI|psAAE|qQAAM))|(UEsDBBQ))
 /dev/null
 
 in your ~/.procmailrc will catch most M$ executables in your e-mail
 and trash them.
 [...]

Thanks, but I am connected to the internet using an analog modem, so the
way for me to get rid of them is deleting them on the server. I really
don't want to download some MB of viruses every day only to delete them
right afterwards :-)

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread duck
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:50:12 +0100, Andreas Janssen wrote:

 Hello
 
 John Conover ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 Andreas Janssen writes:
...
 FYI, if you are running procmail in a shell account:
 
 :0 BD
 * ^(T(24gRXJ|V(oAAAI|pQAAI|psAAE|qQAAM))|(UEsDBBQ)) /dev/null
 
 in your ~/.procmailrc will catch most M$ executables in your e-mail and
 trash them.
 [...]
 
 Thanks, but I am connected to the internet using an analog modem, so the
 way for me to get rid of them is deleting them on the server. I really
 don't want to download some MB of viruses every day only to delete them
 right afterwards :-)

mailfilter is good for filtering out swen and the like. I have set it to
delete all messages over 146888K on this email account (this is not my
main account, so I don't expect to receive large attachments here anyway).


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Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya 

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Lou Losee wrote:

 * Alphonse Ogulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-19 08:01]:
  Got 200 plus mail bombs in my pop3 account this morning. Luckily I used Kmail 
  and filtered (deleted) every incoming message of size greater than 40Kb. Just 
  wondering, is swen back from holiday? How you people managing?
  
 I have been getting hit again too.  I assumed it was people that
 received computers for the holiday and were quickly infected.

i used to get several hundred a day ... now i get few-a-day for my
daily dose and the amt hasnt changed in weeks ( since Nov 26 timeframe)... 

any that gets thru goes into /etc/mail/access

http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/SpamVirus/Sven/

( sven comes from the same mis-managed servers )

- i/client wanted to know where its coming from .. vs just
dropping um

on the one email acct that sven liked:
root# grep -i microsoft /var/log/maillog* | wc -l
353
root# grep -i microsoft /var/log.2003_Dec/maillog* | wc -l
421
root# grep -i microsoft /var/log.2003_Nov/maillog* | wc -l
803
root# grep -i microsoft /var/log.2003_Oct/maillog* | wc -l
   2237
root# grep -i microsoft /var/log.2003_Sep/maillog* | wc -l
459

- its tolerable compared to the thousands of other real mail ..

c ya
alvin


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Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Wayne Topa
Andreas Janssen([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
 Hello
 
 John Conover ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  Andreas Janssen writes:
 
 Thanks, but I am connected to the internet using an analog modem, so the
 way for me to get rid of them is deleting them on the server. I really
 don't want to download some MB of viruses every day only to delete them
 right afterwards :-)
 
 best regards
 Andreas Janssen

If your downloading from a pop3 server take a look at mailfilter.
It deletes mail at the server.  I haven't seen any swen stuff since
installing and configuring it.

HTH=Hope This Helps, YMMV=Your Mileage May Vary, HAND=Have A Nice Day

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Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 04:52:54PM +0100, Andreas Janssen wrote:
 Thanks, but I am connected to the internet using an analog modem, so the
 way for me to get rid of them is deleting them on the server.

You're on a dialup ISP and they don't offer a shell account for you to
use procmail with?  Go find a smaller, more clueful ISP.  8:o)

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Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Wilko Fokken
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:16:02PM +, duck wrote:
 
  Thanks, but I am connected to the internet using an analog modem, so the
  way for me to get rid of them is deleting them on the server. I really
  don't want to download some MB of viruses every day only to delete them
  right afterwards :-)
 
 mailfilter is good for filtering out swen and the like. I have set it to
 delete all messages over 146888K on this email account (this is not my
 main account, so I don't expect to receive large attachments here anyway).
 
My preferred mailfilter rules (for this mailing list only):

DENY^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DENY=^Content-Type:.*text/html
DENY=^Subject:.subscribe
DENY=^Subject:.unsubscribe

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Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Nano Nano
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 06:40:58AM +0100, Wilko Fokken wrote:
 DENY^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 DENY=^Content-Type:.*text/html
 DENY=^Subject:.subscribe
 DENY=^Subject:.unsubscribe

That looks like a remarkable sensible set of rules.
What's your false positive/negative hit rate?
It should be perfect.


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