Re: Linux on Sony PlayStation 2
Hello, thanks for this detailed reply ,-] I carried together some more information, which might be useful to other people, as well. Eduard Bloch wrote: At LinuxTag 2001 in Stuttgart, Germany, there was a Sony PlayStation 2 with Debian Linux shown at the Debian booth. Unfortunately, I was at the LinuxTag, but not the booth. Oliver M. Bolzer presented it, but he had to leave on ?Friday? because of the university lessons. It was not the usuall PS2 which can be bought in Europe, but a newer (?still unreleased?) version, which only beta testers received. It don't have FireWire, but a harddisk instead. Ohhh, that's interesting! Do You have any information on how to get into this beta-test program ?! And it was not a Debian system presented there, but a product of Sony, a strange distribution based on RedHat and their own extensions. IMHO it should not be too complicated to port Debian to it when the basic Debian development apps are ported and an autobuilder can be setup. OK, I found a page with a screenshot on it ,-] (* see doc at the end for link *) The arhitecture: it is not SuperH, it is a variant of mipsel, called mipsEEl or so (IIRC with EE for Emotion Engine). Oliver talked with a guy which was more familiar with kernel development and the consens was, it is mostly mipsel compatible except of two instructions missing in the instruction set of this CPU. This instructions may be emulated in the kernel, so may be possible to get the existing mipsel software running on the Playstation 2 (second release). Yes, I got the instruction set of the CPU; as well as a cross-compiler and linker. I carried together some more information, which might be useful to other people, as well. If You find any bugs, or would like to add information to it or have comments/flames I'd happily integrate them (well, except the flames ,-]). Greetings, raY -- --- Rainer Keller Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Allmandring 30 WWW: http://www.hlrs.de/people/keller 70550 Stuttgart Tel. 0711 / 685 5858 ps2knowledge.ps Description: PostScript document
Re: Linux on Sony PlayStation 2
On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Rainer Keller wrote: Hello, first off, sorry, if this post is completely wrong on this mailing list At LinuxTag 2001 in Stuttgart, Germany, there was a Sony PlayStation 2 with Debian Linux shown at the Debian booth. Unfortunately, I was at the LinuxTag, but not the booth. Prolly Debian-sh. It's not ready for primetime yet, but I'm sure there's a mailinglist to look in on and probably some test binaries... Now, I'd like to know, what it needs to get Linux running on such a machine, what kind of hardware is needed, and whether it's available in Germany, anyway ,-]] http://www.m17n.org/linux-sh/debian/ Any advice or help would be appreciated. Greetings, raY -- There is no problem so great that it cannot be solved with suitable application of High Explosives. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Re: Linux on Sony PlayStation 2
John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Rainer Keller wrote: Hello, first off, sorry, if this post is completely wrong on this mailing list At LinuxTag 2001 in Stuttgart, Germany, there was a Sony PlayStation 2 with Debian Linux shown at the Debian booth. Unfortunately, I was at the LinuxTag, but not the booth. Prolly Debian-sh. It's not ready for primetime yet, but I'm sure there's a mailinglist to look in on and probably some test binaries... Now, I'd like to know, what it needs to get Linux running on such a machine, what kind of hardware is needed, and whether it's available in Germany, anyway ,-]] http://www.m17n.org/linux-sh/debian/ Actually, that's for the SEGA DreamCast's SuperH processor. I'm pretty sure that the PS2 doesn't run a SuperH, although the chips were fabricated by Hitachi. Perhaps a more relevant link, but a bit US centered. http://www.xrhino.com/ Any advice or help would be appreciated. Greetings, raY -- There is no problem so great that it cannot be solved with suitable application of High Explosives. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux on Sony PlayStation 2
On 10 Aug 2001, Marshal Wong wrote: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Rainer Keller wrote: Hello, first off, sorry, if this post is completely wrong on this mailing list At LinuxTag 2001 in Stuttgart, Germany, there was a Sony PlayStation 2 with Debian Linux shown at the Debian booth. Unfortunately, I was at the LinuxTag, but not the booth. Prolly Debian-sh. It's not ready for primetime yet, but I'm sure there's a mailinglist to look in on and probably some test binaries... Now, I'd like to know, what it needs to get Linux running on such a machine, what kind of hardware is needed, and whether it's available in Germany, anyway ,-]] http://www.m17n.org/linux-sh/debian/ Actually, that's for the SEGA DreamCast's SuperH processor. I'm pretty sure that the PS2 doesn't run a SuperH, although the chips were fabricated by Hitachi. Okay, mips. So I don't know my game consoles too well. There's a debian-mips list and page as well... Perhaps a more relevant link, but a bit US centered. http://www.xrhino.com/ Any advice or help would be appreciated. Greetings, raY -- There is no problem so great that it cannot be solved with suitable application of High Explosives. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- There is no problem so great that it cannot be solved with suitable application of High Explosives. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Re: Linux on Sony PlayStation 2
Moin Rainer! Rainer Keller schrieb am Mittwoch, den 08. August 2001: Hello, first off, sorry, if this post is completely wrong on this mailing list At LinuxTag 2001 in Stuttgart, Germany, there was a Sony PlayStation 2 with Debian Linux shown at the Debian booth. Unfortunately, I was at the LinuxTag, but not the booth. Following is without warranty for correctness, I may be wrong: Oliver M. Bolzer presented it, but he had to leave on ?Friday? because of the university lessons. It was not the usuall PS2 which can be bought in Europe, but a newer (?still unreleased?) version, which only beta testers received. It don't have FireWire, but a harddisk instead. And it was not a Debian system presented there, but a product of Sony, a strange distribution based on RedHat and their own extensions. IMHO it should not be too complicated to port Debian to it when the basic Debian development apps are ported and an autobuilder can be setup. The arhitecture: it is not SuperH, it is a variant of mipsel, called mipsEEl or so (IIRC with EE for Emotion Engine). Oliver talked with a guy which was more familiar with kernel development and the consens was, it is mostly mipsel compatible except of two instructions missing in the instruction set of this CPU. This instructions may be emulated in the kernel, so may be possible to get the existing mipsel software running on the Playstation 2 (second release). Now, I'd like to know, what it needs to get Linux running on such a machine, what kind of hardware is needed, and whether it's available in Germany, anyway ,-]] Don't keep your breath... Gruss/Regards, Eduard. -- Wenn die Verwendung eines Killfiles Zeichen einer labilen Persönlichkeit ist, dann ist es auch ein solches Zeichen, den Fernseher abzuschalten, wenn etwas Uninteressantes läuft. (Mathias Warkus in dcoulm)
Linux on Sony PlayStation 2
Hello, first off, sorry, if this post is completely wrong on this mailing list At LinuxTag 2001 in Stuttgart, Germany, there was a Sony PlayStation 2 with Debian Linux shown at the Debian booth. Unfortunately, I was at the LinuxTag, but not the booth. Now, I'd like to know, what it needs to get Linux running on such a machine, what kind of hardware is needed, and whether it's available in Germany, anyway ,-]] Any advice or help would be appreciated. Greetings, raY