Re: Missing HDMI display

2017-08-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 07:19:13AM -0500, Michael Milliman wrote:
> Xorg.0.log does not exist on my system (this mystified me when I went
> to look at it)

In stretch, it can be in either of two places, depending on whether
X runs as root or as your non-root user.

If X runs as root, then /var/log/Xorg.0.log

If X runs as you, then ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log

Which way X runs depends on how you start X *and* on which graphics
chipset is being used.  (Some chipsets require the legacy X-as-root.)



Re: Missing HDMI display

2017-08-02 Thread Michael Milliman
On Wed, 2017-08-02 at 01:48 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Michael Milliman composed on 2017-08-01 21:22 (UTC-0500):
> 
> > With a little more research, I have found that the HDMI interface
> > is
> > detected and shows up on the xrandr output.  However, it shows up
> > as
> > being disconnected, even though it is indeed connected.  I note
> > that I
> > have checked both the cable and the the connector on the monitor
> > (HDTV
> > in this case) and they both are good -- both windows on the same
> > laptop, and the HDMI outputs of two different Android tablets work
> > with
> > the TV on their HDMI ports using the same cable and input on the
> > TV.
> > I have done a little additional research on the web, and found a
> > couple
> > of similar situations, but I have been unable to get xrandr to show
> > the
> > HDMI port as connected.
> 
> What does Xorg.0.log say? Share the whole thing via paste.debian.net
> (optionally
> pastebinit via cmdline).
Xorg.0.log does not exist on my system (this mystified me when I went
to look at it)
> 
> I suspect you're going to need specialized help due to some bug.
> Where to go I
> can't be sure, because nothing you've written makes it completely
> unambiguous
> whether the HDMI port is controlled by a proprietary NVidia driver or
> one of the
> FOSS drivers. https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05567143 doesn't
> seem to
> help either.
> 
In trying to determine what driver is being used, I found this in the
lspci -v -nn output:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation Device
[10de:1c8d] (rev ff) (prog-if ff)
!!! Unknown header type 7f
Kernel modules: nvidia
Clearly the !!! Unknown header type 7f is an indication of a problem.

> If it's only NVidia showing up in the log, you probably need to goto
> NVidia's
> support forum. If Intel is showing up in the log, then I'd start with
> the
> intel-...@lists.freedesktop.org mailing list so that Intel's driver
> devs can
> take a look. For the latter,
> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/documentation/how-report-bugs has rather
> explicit
> instructions to consider.
-- 
73s de Mike, WB5VQX



Re: Missing HDMI display

2017-08-01 Thread Felix Miata
Michael Milliman composed on 2017-08-01 21:22 (UTC-0500):

> With a little more research, I have found that the HDMI interface is
> detected and shows up on the xrandr output.  However, it shows up as
> being disconnected, even though it is indeed connected.  I note that I
> have checked both the cable and the the connector on the monitor (HDTV
> in this case) and they both are good -- both windows on the same
> laptop, and the HDMI outputs of two different Android tablets work with
> the TV on their HDMI ports using the same cable and input on the TV.

> I have done a little additional research on the web, and found a couple
> of similar situations, but I have been unable to get xrandr to show the
> HDMI port as connected.

What does Xorg.0.log say? Share the whole thing via paste.debian.net (optionally
pastebinit via cmdline).

I suspect you're going to need specialized help due to some bug. Where to go I
can't be sure, because nothing you've written makes it completely unambiguous
whether the HDMI port is controlled by a proprietary NVidia driver or one of the
FOSS drivers. https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05567143 doesn't seem to
help either.

If it's only NVidia showing up in the log, you probably need to goto NVidia's
support forum. If Intel is showing up in the log, then I'd start with the
intel-...@lists.freedesktop.org mailing list so that Intel's driver devs can
take a look. For the latter,
https://01.org/linuxgraphics/documentation/how-report-bugs has rather explicit
instructions to consider.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/



Re: Missing HDMI display

2017-08-01 Thread Michael Milliman
On Mon, 2017-07-31 at 18:20 -0500, Michael Milliman wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-07-30 at 19:23 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Thanks, Felix...
> > Michael Milliman composed on 2017-07-30 15:32 (UTC-0500):
> > 
> > > Ok, guys.  I'm working on getting Debian 9.1 with Gnome DEfully
> > > functional with a new laptop.  A couple of the issues have been
> > > addressed already, and fixed.  The next issue is a missing HDMI
> > > output.
> > > I'm running a very new HP Pavilion Power laptop (model number 15-
> > > cb045wm with core i7-7700 CPU, Intel Kabylake HD Graphics GT2,
> > > and
> > > NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 GPU.  The laptop has an HDMI connector on
> > > the
> > > side, and it works with Windows 10.  However, the HDMI display
> > > does
> > > not
> > > show up under linux.  The HDMI output does show up under
> > > Pulseaudio,
> > > though it appears to be non-functional, i.e., when I set the
> > > configuration up for HDMI output, nothing comes out through the
> > > HDMI
> > > connection.  I have no real idea how to troubleshoot this issue,
> > > and
> > > suspect that this system may be new enough that the drivers have
> > > not
> > > caught up with the chipset, and so I may be out of luck for a
> > > little
> > > while.
> > > I have searched the debian-user list archive and found nothing
> > > that
> > > appeared to be useful.  Any information one of you Gurus might
> > > have
> > > will be appreciated.
> > 
> > Sounds to me like your key search terms should have been 'linux
> > hybrid graphics'
> > or 'debian hybrid graphics', and you don't have any of the possible
> > candidates
> > installed.
> > 
> > https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee looks like a place to start.
> 
> Check out this link, and installed the proprietary NVIDIA driver
> along
> with Bumblebee.  This solved another problem when the NVIDIA driver
> was
> installed which caused GDM to crash on boot.  However, this did not
> solve the issue with the HDMI output.  I still show only the main
> display in gnome-control-center, no HDMI display.
> 
> I suspect, therefore, that the problem is with the other VGA device
> showing on lspci: 
> VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
> [8086:591b] (rev 04)
> which shows as "Intel Kabylake HD Graphics GT2" in
> /sys/bus/devices/:00:02.0/label
> 
> > 
> > These should be useful even though not intended for Debian:
> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PRIME
> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus
> 
> Note that there does not appear to be an Intel Optimus device on the
> system, the NVIDIA card if an Intel GeForce GTX.
With a little more research, I have found that the HDMI interface is
detected and shows up on the xrandr output.  However, it shows up as
being disconnected, even though it is indeed connected.  I note that I
have checked both the cable and the the connector on the monitor (HDTV
in this case) and they both are good -- both windows on the same
laptop, and the HDMI outputs of two different Android tablets work with
the TV on their HDMI ports using the same cable and input on the TV.

I have done a little additional research on the web, and found a couple
of similar situations, but I have been unable to get xrandr to show the
HDMI port as connected.

-- 
73s de Mike, WB5VQX



Re: Missing HDMI display

2017-07-31 Thread Michael Milliman
On Sun, 2017-07-30 at 19:23 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
Thanks, Felix...
> Michael Milliman composed on 2017-07-30 15:32 (UTC-0500):
> 
> > Ok, guys.  I'm working on getting Debian 9.1 with Gnome DEfully
> > functional with a new laptop.  A couple of the issues have been
> > addressed already, and fixed.  The next issue is a missing HDMI
> > output.
> > I'm running a very new HP Pavilion Power laptop (model number 15-
> > cb045wm with core i7-7700 CPU, Intel Kabylake HD Graphics GT2, and
> > NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 GPU.  The laptop has an HDMI connector on
> > the
> > side, and it works with Windows 10.  However, the HDMI display does
> > not
> > show up under linux.  The HDMI output does show up under
> > Pulseaudio,
> > though it appears to be non-functional, i.e., when I set the
> > configuration up for HDMI output, nothing comes out through the
> > HDMI
> > connection.  I have no real idea how to troubleshoot this issue,
> > and
> > suspect that this system may be new enough that the drivers have
> > not
> > caught up with the chipset, and so I may be out of luck for a
> > little
> > while.
> > I have searched the debian-user list archive and found nothing that
> > appeared to be useful.  Any information one of you Gurus might have
> > will be appreciated.
> 
> Sounds to me like your key search terms should have been 'linux
> hybrid graphics'
> or 'debian hybrid graphics', and you don't have any of the possible
> candidates
> installed.
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee looks like a place to start.
Check out this link, and installed the proprietary NVIDIA driver along
with Bumblebee.  This solved another problem when the NVIDIA driver was
installed which caused GDM to crash on boot.  However, this did not
solve the issue with the HDMI output.  I still show only the main
display in gnome-control-center, no HDMI display.

I suspect, therefore, that the problem is with the other VGA device
showing on lspci: 
VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device
[8086:591b] (rev 04)
which shows as "Intel Kabylake HD Graphics GT2" in
/sys/bus/devices/:00:02.0/label

> 
> These should be useful even though not intended for Debian:
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PRIME
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus
Note that there does not appear to be an Intel Optimus device on the
system, the NVIDIA card if an Intel GeForce GTX.
-- 
73s de Mike, WB5VQX



Re: Missing HDMI display

2017-07-30 Thread Felix Miata
Michael Milliman composed on 2017-07-30 15:32 (UTC-0500):

> Ok, guys.  I'm working on getting Debian 9.1 with Gnome DEfully
> functional with a new laptop.  A couple of the issues have been
> addressed already, and fixed.  The next issue is a missing HDMI output.

> I'm running a very new HP Pavilion Power laptop (model number 15-
> cb045wm with core i7-7700 CPU, Intel Kabylake HD Graphics GT2, and
> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 GPU.  The laptop has an HDMI connector on the
> side, and it works with Windows 10.  However, the HDMI display does not
> show up under linux.  The HDMI output does show up under Pulseaudio,
> though it appears to be non-functional, i.e., when I set the
> configuration up for HDMI output, nothing comes out through the HDMI
> connection.  I have no real idea how to troubleshoot this issue, and
> suspect that this system may be new enough that the drivers have not
> caught up with the chipset, and so I may be out of luck for a little
> while.

> I have searched the debian-user list archive and found nothing that
> appeared to be useful.  Any information one of you Gurus might have
> will be appreciated.

Sounds to me like your key search terms should have been 'linux hybrid graphics'
or 'debian hybrid graphics', and you don't have any of the possible candidates
installed.

https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee looks like a place to start.

These should be useful even though not intended for Debian:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PRIME
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/



Missing HDMI display

2017-07-30 Thread Michael Milliman
Ok, guys.  I'm working on getting Debian 9.1 with Gnome DEfully
functional with a new laptop.  A couple of the issues have been
addressed already, and fixed.  The next issue is a missing HDMI output.

I'm running a very new HP Pavilion Power laptop (model number 15-
cb045wm with core i7-7700 CPU, Intel Kabylake HD Graphics GT2, and
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 GPU.  The laptop has an HDMI connector on the
side, and it works with Windows 10.  However, the HDMI display does not
show up under linux.  The HDMI output does show up under Pulseaudio,
though it appears to be non-functional, i.e., when I set the
configuration up for HDMI output, nothing comes out through the HDMI
connection.  I have no real idea how to troubleshoot this issue, and
suspect that this system may be new enough that the drivers have not
caught up with the chipset, and so I may be out of luck for a little
while.

I have searched the debian-user list archive and found nothing that
appeared to be useful.  Any information one of you Gurus might have
will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
-- 
73s de Mike, WB5VQX