Mozilla and Blackdown Java Plugin
Short summary: MozillaJRE Works? == 1.2.1-2.bunk j2re1.3 YES 1.2.1-2.bunk j2re1.4 unknown 1.3-5 j2re1.3 NO 1.3-5 j2re1.4 NO 1.4-2 j2re1.3 NO 1.4-2 j2re1.4 NO Why? And how to fix? I am trying hard to get Java to work with Mozilla: ii mozilla-browse 1.4-2 Mozilla Web Browser - core and browser ii j2re1.41.4.0.99beta-1 Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, St ii j2sdk1.4 1.4.0.99beta-1 Blackdown Java(TM) 2 SDK, Standard Edition Java works, Mozilla works, but the plugin does not. j2re1.4 installs /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so via symlinks into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. If I start Mozilla, then about:plugins does *not* list the plugin. If I manually link /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin.so into the plugins tree, then about:plugins lists a number of MIME types for which Blackdown is responsible, but it's missing one of the important ones: application/x-java-vm. I tried using j2{re,sdk}1.3 in place of the unstable 1.4 version, but no different behaviour. Mozilla 1.3-5 exhibits the same problem. I have another machine running older software, and it works flawlessly there: ii mozilla-browse 1.2.1-2.bunk Mozilla Web Browser - core and browser ii j2re1.31.3.1.02b-2Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, St ii j2sdk1.3 1.3.1.02b-2Blackdown Java(TM) 2 SDK, Standard Edition What's the deal here? Has anyone gotten the Blackdown Java Plugin to work with Mozilla 1.4? -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mozilla and Blackdown Java Plugin
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 08:42, martin f krafft wrote: Short summary: MozillaJRE Works? == 1.2.1-2.bunk j2re1.3 YES 1.2.1-2.bunk j2re1.4 unknown 1.3-5 j2re1.3 NO 1.3-5 j2re1.4 NO 1.4-2 j2re1.3 NO 1.4-2 j2re1.4 NO Why? And how to fix? I am trying hard to get Java to work with Mozilla: ii mozilla-browse 1.4-2 Mozilla Web Browser - core and browser ii j2re1.41.4.0.99beta-1 Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, St ii j2sdk1.4 1.4.0.99beta-1 Blackdown Java(TM) 2 SDK, Standard Edition snip What's the deal here? Has anyone gotten the Blackdown Java Plugin to work with Mozilla 1.4? Short answer, no. According to http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html mozilla needs 1.4.2. I got it from sun's site and it does work. -- First Impressions are Bunk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla and Blackdown Java Plugin
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 05:42:37PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: Short summary: MozillaJRE Works? == 1.2.1-2.bunk j2re1.3 YES 1.2.1-2.bunk j2re1.4 unknown 1.3-5 j2re1.3 NO 1.3-5 j2re1.4 NO 1.4-2 j2re1.3 NO 1.4-2 j2re1.4 NO Why? And how to fix? Compiler versions. Install a copy of the desired version of Java that is compiled with gcc 3.2 if you want to use one of the newer versions of Mozilla; use your current installation if you want to use the older version of Mozilla (it was compiled with gcc 2.95, like the installed Java). -- Seneca [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mozilla and Blackdown Java Plugin
also sprach Rich Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.08.24.1833 +0200]: Short answer, no. According to http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html mozilla needs 1.4.2. I got it from sun's site and it does work. So I got to wait for blackdown to release 1.4.2 if I want to stay with Debian packages... okay, thanks... -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mozilla and Blackdown Java Plugin
also sprach Rich Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.08.24.1833 +0200]: Short answer, no. According to http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html mozilla needs 1.4.2. I got it from sun's site and it does work. Why does it then not work with Mozilla 1.3? Same restrictions? -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mozilla and Blackdown Java Plugin
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 09:41, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Rich Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.08.24.1833 +0200]: Short answer, no. According to http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html mozilla needs 1.4.2. I got it from sun's site and it does work. Why does it then not work with Mozilla 1.3? Same restrictions? Don't know :) I think Seneca Cunningham's reply is probably the right direction to look first, though. -- First Impressions are Bunk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla and Blackdown Java Plugin
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 18:10:09 +0200, martin f krafft wrote: Short summary: MozillaJRE Works? == 1.2.1-2.bunk j2re1.3 YES 1.2.1-2.bunk j2re1.4 unknown 1.3-5 j2re1.3 NO 1.3-5 j2re1.4 NO 1.4-2 j2re1.3 NO 1.4-2 j2re1.4 NO Why? And how to fix? I am trying hard to get Java to work with Mozilla: ii mozilla-browse 1.4-2 Mozilla Web Browser - core and browser ii j2re1.41.4.0.99beta-1 Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, St ii j2sdk1.4 1.4.0.99beta-1 Blackdown Java(TM) 2 SDK, Standard Edition Java works, Mozilla works, but the plugin does not. j2re1.4 installs /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so via symlinks into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. If I start Mozilla, then about:plugins does *not* list the plugin. If I manually link /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin.so into the plugins tree, then about:plugins lists a number of MIME types for which Blackdown is responsible, but it's missing one of the important ones: application/x-java-vm. I tried using j2{re,sdk}1.3 in place of the unstable 1.4 version, but no different behaviour. Mozilla 1.3-5 exhibits the same problem. I have another machine running older software, and it works flawlessly there: ii mozilla-browse 1.2.1-2.bunk Mozilla Web Browser - core and browser ii j2re1.31.3.1.02b-2Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, St ii j2sdk1.3 1.3.1.02b-2Blackdown Java(TM) 2 SDK, Standard Edition What's the deal here? Has anyone gotten the Blackdown Java Plugin to work with Mozilla 1.4? I was at one point able to get Mozilla 1.3 to work with Java 1.4 (I since downgraded mozilla because I wanted to stick with Galeon 1.2 series for now) The problem is that Mozilla 1.3 in Debian was recompiled using g++-3.2 which has a different ABI from GCC 2.95 and 3.0. As a result the Mozilla is now binary-incompatible with the new plugin. Here's the solution: Blackdown's Java .debs are still compiled with GCC 2.95.x, *but* blackdown does have a binary installer available of Java 1.4 compiled with g++-3.2 which you can use with Mozilla 1.3. You can also use it to make your own .debs of Java, as I have (but I unfortunately cannot share them because of bandwidth constraints) I haven't tried Mozilla 1.4, so I don't know if the g++ ABI is the only hurdle that you'll have to deal with. I guess the question is: when will Blackdown make .debs with g++-3.2? This problem affected Mandrake 6 to 9 months before it affected debian because Mandrake included g++-3.1 (the first to use the new ABI) whereas Debian did not. -- I usually have a GPG digital signature included as an attachment. See http://www.gnupg.org/ for info about these digital signatures. My key was last signed 6/10/2003. If you use GPG, *please* see me about signing the key. * My computer can't give you viruses by email. *** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla and Blackdown Java Plugin
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:42, martin f krafft wrote: Short summary: What's the deal here? Has anyone gotten the Blackdown Java Plugin to work with Mozilla 1.4? deb http://jopa.studentenweb.org/debian ./ apt-get install j2re1.4 j2se-common There you are. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] REMEMBER ED CURRY! http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry Thine integral refractions upon a lump of coal exhibit multiple pulmonary geysers. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Mozilla and Blackdown Java Plugin
Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003:08:24:15:04:53-0400] scribed: On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:42, martin f krafft wrote: Short summary: What's the deal here? Has anyone gotten the Blackdown Java Plugin to work with Mozilla 1.4? deb http://jopa.studentenweb.org/debian ./ apt-get install j2re1.4 j2se-common Excellent! That worked for me -- thank you. -- Best Regards, mds mds resource 877.596.8237 - Dare to fix things before they break . . . - Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . -- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature