Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-08-03 Thread Daniel Barclay

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
 Oops, sorry everyone, I messed up.
 
 I have tried deleting my ~/.netscape/cookie file, but it reappeared a while
 later, just like the original.  Where did it get that info from?

Were you still running Netscape or had you exited when you deleted
the file?



Daniel


Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-08-03 Thread Wim Kerkhoff
Ah, that may be why.  I was still running Netscape.  In my mind, it shouldn't
matter though... IE, AFAIK, doesn't work this way.

On 03-Aug-99 Daniel Barclay wrote:
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Oops, sorry everyone, I messed up.
 
 I have tried deleting my ~/.netscape/cookie file, but it reappeared a while
 later, just like the original.  Where did it get that info from?
 
 Were you still running Netscape or had you exited when you deleted
 the file?

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Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-08-03 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 05:07:55PM -0400, Daniel Barclay wrote:
 
  From: egm2@jps.net
  
  Netscape-smotif-4.08 is the only reliable version I've found. 
 
 It's not reliable here.
 
 I don't seem to have the window-closing problem you all are
 talking about, but it still hangs (100% CPU, seemingly Java-
 related) and crashes.
 
 (On slink, glibc 2.0.7.)
 

Try
   communicator-v461-export.x86-unknown-linux2.0.tar.gz
from
  
../netscape/communicator/english/4.61/unix/supported/linux20_libc5/professional_edition
 ^

Get this file to /tmp, rename to
communicator-v461-export.x86-unknown-linux2.0-glibcx.tar.gz

And install package: netscape4 ( I use 4.0-15 on potato).
You may need also some libraries like libc5, ...

I have success :)

Mirek


Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-31 Thread Daniel Barclay

 From: Adam Shand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

 
  i was trying to find a pattern among the info people posted but couldn't
  really see one.  did anyone else figure this out?
  
  - p2-266 128mb ram
  - kernel 2.2.9
  - glibc 2.1.1-13
  
  It's the glibc from unstable.
 
 but i thought there were several posts from people claiming that it worked
 just fine for them and they were using glibc 2.1?

And Netscape crashes all over glibc 2.0 too.

Daniel


Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-31 Thread Daniel Barclay

 From: egm2@jps.net
 
 Netscape-smotif-4.08 is the only reliable version I've found. 

It's not reliable here.

I don't seem to have the window-closing problem you all are
talking about, but it still hangs (100% CPU, seemingly Java-
related) and crashes.

(On slink, glibc 2.0.7.)



Daniel


Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-26 Thread Gerhard Kroder
Marek Habersack wrote:
 
 * Philip Lehman said:
 
   I had that problem, the fix (for me at least) was deleteing my 
   ~/.netscape
   Dunno why, but somthing get corupted.
  
  Hmmm... this is the first suggestion that has worked for me! i still get
  bus errors trying to login to dhs.org, but i haven't gotten it to crash on
  closing a window yet.
 
  I just tried that from a new user account and had no problems crashing
 I tried it as well but, alas, it helped only partially. The problem I have
 is as follows:
 
 1. Open Netscape Navigator (not Communicator) 4.x and load any page which
requires authentication.
 2. Type your login and password and tap OK
 3. Netscape closes the window and dissappears without ANY error message


i can confirm this. especially when starting communicator (smotif-4.61, on
recent potato with 2.2.10), opening messenger, getting connectet to
mailserver (imap), downloading headers, just before mailfilter will apply
to those new mails communicator just quits.

and of course ther are all the other features like bus-errors, shutting
all by closing one of it's windows, any problems about communicator we hear
and write since some time .

 gerhard


Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-26 Thread egm2
Netscape-smotif-4.08 is the only reliable version I've found.  I too
can confirm the $ rm ~/.netscape method of temporarily fixing
netscape-4.61 hangs (or whatever).  But the most successful fix at the
moment is $ dpkg --remove nestcape-smotif-4.6.1. ;-)

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Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-24 Thread Gregg Berkholtz
Adam Shand wrote:
 
  Anyway, the problem is that Netscape is quite frequently crashing with a
  bus error.  This usually happens when I close a Netscape window
  (actually, it happens close to half the time when I close a Netscape
  window), which is painful because I have to either live with an
  ever-growing number of pop-up ads or risk a crash.  Netscape also
  crashes when I run very low on virtual memory, with the same error.
 
 i'm having this problem as well.  it started when i upgraded to netscape
 4.6.  reverting to libc5 4.51 fixed it but when 4.61 came out with support
 for glibc2.1 i upgraded and i haven't been able to fix it since.  i've tried
 un/stable 4.5, 4.51, 4.6 and 4.61 and they all break.  all of my netscape
 windows disappear (sometimes) when i close a window or try to login to an
 site which requires authentication (pop up window style).
 
 i was trying to find a pattern among the info people posted but couldn't
 really see one.  did anyone else figure this out?
 
 - p2-266 128mb ram
 - kernel 2.2.9
 - glibc 2.1.1-13
 - xfree 3.3.1 (vmware 3.3.1 server)
 - windowmaker 0.60.0-2
 - neomagic nmg5
 
 if anyone has figured anything out i would love to know the solution.
 
 thanks,
 adam.
 
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I have found that the cookie file tends to loose new-lines for some of the
entires and then when you attempt to access that site that has the line too long
-- there goes netscape.

Basicly what I mean is that you will get two sites (or more) that should each be
on a seprate line in the cookie file, now on one line, when you try to access
that site and netscape tries to send the cookie it has a fit and crashes.

Try checking each and every line in the cookie file to make sure that you dont
have more than one site listed for each line.
I did this, and corrected the incorrect lines and Netscape has treated me alot
better since.


HTH,
Gregg Berkholtz


Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-24 Thread wim


 
 I have found that the cookie file tends to loose new-lines for some of the
 entires and then when you attempt to access that site that has the line too
 long
 -- there goes netscape.
 
 Basicly what I mean is that you will get two sites (or more) that should each
 be
 on a seprate line in the cookie file, now on one line, when you try to access
 that site and netscape tries to send the cookie it has a fit and crashes.
 
 Try checking each and every line in the cookie file to make sure that you
 dont
 have more than one site listed for each line.
 I did this, and corrected the incorrect lines and Netscape has treated me
 alot
 better since.


 Wim Kerkhoff  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.canadianhomes.net/wim 
 ICQ: 23284586


Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-24 Thread wim
Oops, sorry everyone, I messed up.

I have tried deleting my ~/.netscape/cookie file, but it reappeared a while
later, just like the original.  Where did it get that info from?

I have had the problem in Netscape Mail before, where you collapse the
toolbars, but they won't un-collapse.  Deleting the ~/.netscape folder fixed
that, though, until the next time.  So, I've learnt NOT to touch the toolbars.

I am also learning to NOT close windows, but either re-use them or minimize
them for later use.

I'm running potato with all the latests libraries, etc, but even with slink and
different versions of Communicator I have had the same problem.

scratching head  I faintly recall Netscape crashing without clicking and
exit/close button.


On 23-Jul-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have found that the cookie file tends to loose new-lines for some of the
 entires and then when you attempt to access that site that has the line too
 long
 -- there goes netscape.
 
 Basicly what I mean is that you will get two sites (or more) that should
 each
 be
 on a seprate line in the cookie file, now on one line, when you try to
 access
 that site and netscape tries to send the cookie it has a fit and crashes.
 
 Try checking each and every line in the cookie file to make sure that you
 dont
 have more than one site listed for each line.
 I did this, and corrected the incorrect lines and Netscape has treated me
 alot
 better since.


---
 Wim Kerkhoff  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.canadianhomes.net/wim 
 ICQ: 23284586


Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-24 Thread Marek Habersack
* Philip Lehman said:

  I had that problem, the fix (for me at least) was deleteing my ~/.netscape
  Dunno why, but somthing get corupted.
 
 Hmmm... this is the first suggestion that has worked for me! i still get
 bus errors trying to login to dhs.org, but i haven't gotten it to crash on
 closing a window yet.
 
 I just tried that from a new user account and had no problems crashing
I tried it as well but, alas, it helped only partially. The problem I have
is as follows:

1. Open Netscape Navigator (not Communicator) 4.x and load any page which
   requires authentication.
2. Type your login and password and tap OK
3. Netscape closes the window and dissappears without ANY error message

Now, after removing the ~/.netscape as suggested before, the above scenario
doesn't happen anymore. Success! But only until I open ANOTHER Netscape
window and try to log into some authenticated page again. After #2 above
both windows shut down and vanish from the face of the earth. In my case the
pages requiring authentication were the freshmeat.net lounge one and a local
Roxen server configuration interface.

marek


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Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-23 Thread Adam Shand

 Anyway, the problem is that Netscape is quite frequently crashing with a
 bus error.  This usually happens when I close a Netscape window
 (actually, it happens close to half the time when I close a Netscape
 window), which is painful because I have to either live with an
 ever-growing number of pop-up ads or risk a crash.  Netscape also
 crashes when I run very low on virtual memory, with the same error.

i'm having this problem as well.  it started when i upgraded to netscape
4.6.  reverting to libc5 4.51 fixed it but when 4.61 came out with support
for glibc2.1 i upgraded and i haven't been able to fix it since.  i've tried
un/stable 4.5, 4.51, 4.6 and 4.61 and they all break.  all of my netscape
windows disappear (sometimes) when i close a window or try to login to an
site which requires authentication (pop up window style).

i was trying to find a pattern among the info people posted but couldn't
really see one.  did anyone else figure this out?

- p2-266 128mb ram
- kernel 2.2.9
- glibc 2.1.1-13
- xfree 3.3.1 (vmware 3.3.1 server)
- windowmaker 0.60.0-2
- neomagic nmg5

if anyone has figured anything out i would love to know the solution.

thanks,
adam.



Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-23 Thread Christian Lavoie


 Original Message 

On 7/22/99, 9:56:55 PM, Adam Shand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding 
Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.:


  Anyway, the problem is that Netscape is quite frequently crashing with 
a
  bus error.  This usually happens when I close a Netscape window
  (actually, it happens close to half the time when I close a Netscape
  window), which is painful because I have to either live with an
  ever-growing number of pop-up ads or risk a crash.  Netscape also
  crashes when I run very low on virtual memory, with the same error.

 i'm having this problem as well.  it started when i upgraded to 
netscape
 4.6.  reverting to libc5 4.51 fixed it but when 4.61 came out with 
support
 for glibc2.1 i upgraded and i haven't been able to fix it since.  i've 
tried
 un/stable 4.5, 4.51, 4.6 and 4.61 and they all break.  all of my 
netscape
 windows disappear (sometimes) when i close a window or try to login to 
an
 site which requires authentication (pop up window style).

 i was trying to find a pattern among the info people posted but 
couldn't
 really see one.  did anyone else figure this out?

 - p2-266 128mb ram
 - kernel 2.2.9
 - glibc 2.1.1-13
 - xfree 3.3.1 (vmware 3.3.1 server)
 - windowmaker 0.60.0-2
 - neomagic nmg5

 if anyone has figured anything out i would love to know the solution.

- 6x86 133mhz 64megs RAM
- kernel 2.2.10-ac12 (seen this behavior ever since I switched to 
Potato, which means glibc2.1 and 2.2.x)
- xfree86 3.3.3.1
- enlightenment 0.15.5 (seen that on wmaker 0.52 and up too (i think 
that was the version I was using))

I've not noticed this behavior on closing any window BUT a navigator 
window. The bug seems to be common to navigator and communicator 4.5+ 
(yes, I've seen this on 4.5 too). I used to think for some reason the 
main process receives the 'close signal' (I'm no a X programmer ;) 
twice and crashed due to that.

From a different perspective, I'd say Netscape stuff version 4.5 and 
up still has trouble with glibc 2.1.

Christian Lavoie
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
UIN: 947212




Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-23 Thread Adam Shand

  - p2-266 128mb ram
  - kernel 2.2.9
  - glibc 2.1.1-13
  - xfree 3.3.1 (vmware 3.3.1 server)

sorry i'm dumb that would be 3.3.3.1.

 I've not noticed this behavior on closing any window BUT a navigator
 window. The bug seems to be common to navigator and communicator 4.5+
 (yes, I've seen this on 4.5 too). I used to think for some reason the
 main process receives the 'close signal' (I'm no a X programmer ;)  
 twice and crashed due to that.

sorry i wasn't precise enough.  any navigator menu is what i meant.  well it
looks like we can rule out the window manager (as far as i know window maker
and enlightenment don't share any code) ... unless it's a generic 3.3.3.1
but it seems unlikely as there have been several differnet servers with
problems.

so it really does seem that it's a netscape and glibc 2.1 bug ... but then
the question remains.  why aren't some people having a problem

hrrrm.

adam.


Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-23 Thread Philip Lehman
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Adam Shand wrote:

i was trying to find a pattern among the info people posted but couldn't
really see one.  did anyone else figure this out?

- p2-266 128mb ram
- kernel 2.2.9
- glibc 2.1.1-13

It's the glibc from unstable.

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Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-23 Thread J Horacio MG

   Anyway, the problem is that Netscape is quite frequently crashing with 
a bus error.  This usually happens when I close a Netscape window
   (actually, it happens close to half the time when I close a Netscape
   window), which is painful because I have to either live with an
   ever-growing number of pop-up ads or risk a crash.  Netscape also
   crashes when I run very low on virtual memory, with the same error.
 
  i'm having this problem as well.  it started when i upgraded to 
 netscape
  4.6.  reverting to libc5 4.51 fixed it but when 4.61 came out with 
 support
  for glibc2.1 i upgraded and i haven't been able to fix it since.  i've 
 tried
  un/stable 4.5, 4.51, 4.6 and 4.61 and they all break.  all of my 
 netscape
  windows disappear (sometimes) when i close a window or try to login to 
 an
  site which requires authentication (pop up window style).
 
  i was trying to find a pattern among the info people posted but 
 couldn't
  really see one.  did anyone else figure this out?
 
  - p2-266 128mb ram
  - kernel 2.2.9
  - glibc 2.1.1-13
  - xfree 3.3.1 (vmware 3.3.1 server)
  - windowmaker 0.60.0-2
  - neomagic nmg5
 
  if anyone has figured anything out i would love to know the solution.
 
 - 6x86 133mhz 64megs RAM
 - kernel 2.2.10-ac12 (seen this behavior ever since I switched to 
 Potato, which means glibc2.1 and 2.2.x)
 - xfree86 3.3.3.1
 - enlightenment 0.15.5 (seen that on wmaker 0.52 and up too (i think 
 that was the version I was using))
 
 I've not noticed this behavior on closing any window BUT a navigator 
 window. The bug seems to be common to navigator and communicator 4.5+ 
 (yes, I've seen this on 4.5 too). I used to think for some reason the 
 main process receives the 'close signal' (I'm no a X programmer ;) 
 twice and crashed due to that.
 
 From a different perspective, I'd say Netscape stuff version 4.5 and 
 up still has trouble with glibc 2.1.

No need to go all the way up to potato and Netscape 4.6+, the same
happens to me with a slink installation and Communicator 4.5.

BTW, anyone knows why netscape creates a directory named after the user
within the user's home dir?  ie:  /home/pepe/pepe
 
Regards,
-- 
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Valencia - ESPAÑA


Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-23 Thread Adam Shand

 i was trying to find a pattern among the info people posted but couldn't
 really see one.  did anyone else figure this out?
 
 - p2-266 128mb ram
 - kernel 2.2.9
 - glibc 2.1.1-13
 
 It's the glibc from unstable.

but i thought there were several posts from people claiming that it worked
just fine for them and they were using glibc 2.1?

adam.


Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-23 Thread Matt Kopishke
I had that problem, the fix (for me at least) was deleteing my ~/.netscape
Dunno why, but somthing get corupted.

-Matt-

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Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-23 Thread Philip Lehman
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Adam Shand wrote:

 i was trying to find a pattern among the info people posted but couldn't
 really see one.  did anyone else figure this out?
 It's the glibc from unstable.

but i thought there were several posts from people claiming that it worked
just fine for them and they were using glibc 2.1?

I didn't follow this list lately, so I'm probably not up to date.

However, this is the last explanation I remember and corresponds to my
experience too.  Right after moving to glibc 2.1, netscape started
giving me those bus errors. I'm not running an all potato system, just
slink with some unstable stuff thrown in and glibc seems to be the
only relevant part in my case, but I may be overlooking something.

This is a *royal* PITA. If you find out more, please post it.

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Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-23 Thread Brad
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Matt Kopishke wrote:

 I had that problem, the fix (for me at least) was deleteing my ~/.netscape
 Dunno why, but somthing get corupted.

Hmmm... this is the first suggestion that has worked for me! i still get
bus errors trying to login to dhs.org, but i haven't gotten it to crash on
closing a window yet.

It even seems safe to keep your old bookmark and cookie files...


Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-07-23 Thread Philip Lehman
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Brad wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Matt Kopishke wrote:
 I had that problem, the fix (for me at least) was deleteing my ~/.netscape
 Dunno why, but somthing get corupted.

Hmmm... this is the first suggestion that has worked for me! i still get
bus errors trying to login to dhs.org, but i haven't gotten it to crash on
closing a window yet.

I just tried that from a new user account and had no problems crashing
it ;) I did change some basic settings after launching: refuse all
cookies, use a proxy, disable javascript and java - and this was
supposed to improve stability. Shouldn't make a difference, though.

-- 
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Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-06-22 Thread Frankie
thomas lakofski wrote:

Just to throw in some more controversy :-)

I have always ran netscape glibc 2 versions. (with communicator
3.something, 4.5, .51
and .6) except maybe the communicator 3.something.

I have never had a bus error, and I use netscape at least every day.

BTW I am using glibc2.1 (was using potato and hamm before, though), SVGA
X-server,
and an S3 Virge card. I used to use a 1MB Cirrus card. (I have used both
ISA and PCI
versions) without trouble.

frankie :-P



 On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote:

   On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Craig McPherson wrote:
  
Are any of the earier versions of Netscape more stable than 4.6?
I'm willing to use whatever is stable.  I haven't yet tried earlier
Netscapes.
  
   same thing happens to me with 4.51 and 4.08, both linked with glibc2.  i
   think it's a glibc2.1 issue.
  
   anyone have libc5 debian packages for 4.08/51/6?
 
  It's not glibc2.  Netscape 4.6 (Potato) runs fine, at least if you have
  a Cirrus CL-GD5446 (PCI), kernel 2.2.9 and plenty of RAM.  Look for
  something else.  And I don't think it's the window manager.  At least,
  Netscape's okay on Enlightenment.
 
  Have you tried the SVGA X server (acceleration off)?  Does XF86Setup
  find any parameters specific to your card?  Have you upgraded XFree86 to
  glibc2?

 I don't think it's an XFree86 issue -- same things occur when running
 netscape over VNC.  Blackbox is my window manager.  All problems vanish
 when using libc5 version of communicator 4.08.  Specific (repeatable)
 problems were:  bus error when closing one window; bus error when using
 sites protected with basic auth; bus error when selecting menu item in
 large (50+ item) pop-up menus.  None of these I've seen with the libc5
 version.

 I'm running potato current as of a few days ago on a Libretto 100CT, SVGA
 server using Neomagic chipset, kernel 2.2.10, 64MB RAM.  Everything's
 glibc2.1 that can be.

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Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-06-17 Thread Michael Talbot-Wilson
 On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Craig McPherson wrote:
 
  Are any of the earier versions of Netscape more stable than 4.6?  
  I'm willing to use whatever is stable.  I haven't yet tried earlier 
  Netscapes.
 
 same thing happens to me with 4.51 and 4.08, both linked with glibc2.  i
 think it's a glibc2.1 issue.
 
 anyone have libc5 debian packages for 4.08/51/6?

It's not glibc2.  Netscape 4.6 (Potato) runs fine, at least if you have a 
Cirrus CL-GD5446 (PCI), kernel 2.2.9 and plenty of RAM.  Look for something 
else.  And I don't think it's the window manager.  At least, Netscape's okay on 
Enlightenment.

Have you tried the SVGA X server (acceleration off)?  Does XF86Setup find any 
parameters specific to your card?  Have you upgraded XFree86 to glibc2?




Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-06-17 Thread Michael Talbot-Wilson
 Alisdair McDiarmid wrote:
 
  i found 4.6.1 even more unstable than 4.08. at least i know that, if
  i don't close windows, 4.08 is unlikely to crash. 4.6 just died all
  the time.
 
 well, then it seems, that the poor glibc2.1 people should go to the
 libc5 version.

Nope.  This poor, underprivileged glibc2.1 person has cleared libc5 off his 
system and (so far) is happy as a lark.  Netscape 4.6 is fine.

Some people are having problems with several versions of Netscape.  Some 
people.  Several versions.  But guys, there are a few installations of Netscape 
around, and this looks like a minority thing.  Maybe you should be looking for 
a different cause.

Or maybe, for you, you are right.  If libc5 fixes your problem, terrific.


Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-06-17 Thread thomas lakofski
On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote:

  On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Craig McPherson wrote:
  
   Are any of the earier versions of Netscape more stable than 4.6?  
   I'm willing to use whatever is stable.  I haven't yet tried earlier 
   Netscapes.
  
  same thing happens to me with 4.51 and 4.08, both linked with glibc2.  i
  think it's a glibc2.1 issue.
  
  anyone have libc5 debian packages for 4.08/51/6?
 
 It's not glibc2.  Netscape 4.6 (Potato) runs fine, at least if you have
 a Cirrus CL-GD5446 (PCI), kernel 2.2.9 and plenty of RAM.  Look for
 something else.  And I don't think it's the window manager.  At least,
 Netscape's okay on Enlightenment. 
 
 Have you tried the SVGA X server (acceleration off)?  Does XF86Setup
 find any parameters specific to your card?  Have you upgraded XFree86 to
 glibc2? 

I don't think it's an XFree86 issue -- same things occur when running
netscape over VNC.  Blackbox is my window manager.  All problems vanish
when using libc5 version of communicator 4.08.  Specific (repeatable)
problems were:  bus error when closing one window; bus error when using
sites protected with basic auth; bus error when selecting menu item in
large (50+ item) pop-up menus.  None of these I've seen with the libc5
version.

I'm running potato current as of a few days ago on a Libretto 100CT, SVGA
server using Neomagic chipset, kernel 2.2.10, 64MB RAM.  Everything's
glibc2.1 that can be. 

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Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-06-16 Thread Craig McPherson
I'm hoping that someone will be able to offer some advice on this, 
because it's annoying when a program crashes under Linux even 
more often than it crashes under Windows.

Anyway, the problem is that Netscape is quite frequently crashing 
with a bus error.  This usually happens when I close a Netscape 
window (actually, it happens close to half the time when I close a 
Netscape window), which is painful because I have to either live with 
an ever-growing number of pop-up ads or risk a crash.  Netscape 
also crashes when I run very low on virtual memory, with the same 
error.

THE SCENARIO:

P2 233, 64MB RAM, 128MB swap
Debian potato (though the behavior was the same when I was still 
using slink)
XFree86 3.3.3 using the Mach64 server (latest versions)
Netscape 4.6, dynamically-linked (IIRC) motif.
Have tried many different window managers, Gnome, and KDE, 
behavior is the same with all of them.

If I start Netscape from an xterm, the error looks something like:

pid bus error  netscape

Something of the sort.  Any ideas?

Are any of the earier versions of Netscape more stable than 4.6?  
I'm willing to use whatever is stable.  I haven't yet tried earlier 
Netscapes.

Thanks for any help.


Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-06-16 Thread thomas lakofski
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Craig McPherson wrote:

 Are any of the earier versions of Netscape more stable than 4.6?  
 I'm willing to use whatever is stable.  I haven't yet tried earlier 
 Netscapes.

same thing happens to me with 4.51 and 4.08, both linked with glibc2.  i
think it's a glibc2.1 issue.

anyone have libc5 debian packages for 4.08/51/6?

-t

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Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-06-16 Thread Hartmut Figge
Craig McPherson wrote:
 
 I'm hoping that someone will be able to offer some advice on this,
 because it's annoying when a program crashes under Linux even
 more often than it crashes under Windows.
 
since you´re using glibc2.1, the best way would be - imho - either to
use the libc5 version together with oldlibs or to try the just released
netscape 4.6.1

hafi



Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-06-16 Thread Alisdair McDiarmid
On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 02:38:43AM +0200, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Craig McPherson wrote:
  
  I'm hoping that someone will be able to offer some advice on this,
  because it's annoying when a program crashes under Linux even
  more often than it crashes under Windows.
  
 since you´re using glibc2.1, the best way would be - imho - either to
 use the libc5 version together with oldlibs or to try the just released
 netscape 4.6.1

i found 4.6.1 even more unstable than 4.08. at least i know that, if
i don't close windows, 4.08 is unlikely to crash. 4.6 just died all
the time.
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Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-06-16 Thread Hartmut Figge
thomas lakofski wrote:
 
 On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Craig McPherson wrote:

 anyone have libc5 debian packages for 4.08/51/6?

get the files from
ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.08/english/unix/supported/linux20/
and use the debian installer.

hafi



Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-06-16 Thread Hartmut Figge
Alisdair McDiarmid wrote:

 i found 4.6.1 even more unstable than 4.08. at least i know that, if
 i don't close windows, 4.08 is unlikely to crash. 4.6 just died all
 the time.

well, then it seems, that the poor glibc2.1 people should go to the
libc5 version.

hafi


Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-06-16 Thread Eric G. Miller
Yea, use the 4.08 version of Netscape. You might also try with statically 
linked motif (it's a bit bigger, but avoids shared library probs).
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Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-06-16 Thread Mark Wagnon
Craig McPherson wrote:
 
 I'm hoping that someone will be able to offer some advice on this,
 because it's annoying when a program crashes under Linux even
 more often than it crashes under Windows.
 

I'm having trouble with netscape too. I've tried several things to get
around the problem, but I haven't been able to yet. I had upgraded to
potato, and I thought that was my problem so I stepped back down to
slink again. I'm still ahving problems though. I don't remember having
this much trouble before my move to potato though. I've been installing
the debianized netscape stuff though, whereas before I had a glibc copy
of 4.51 that worked pretty good. I may be going back to that if I can't
find out what's going on, and that's pretty hard because my problem is
that my whole system locks up hard. I can't do anthing but shut off the
power. Could java be the culprit? I'm gonna remove the netscape java
stuff and see what happens...
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Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.

1999-06-16 Thread Greg Baker
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Craig McPherson wrote:
 Anyway, the problem is that Netscape is quite frequently crashing 
 with a bus error.  This usually happens when I close a Netscape 
 window (actually, it happens close to half the time when I close a 
 Netscape window), which is painful because I have to either live with 
 an ever-growing number of pop-up ads or risk a crash.  Netscape 
 also crashes when I run very low on virtual memory, with the same 
 error.

I just came across something called 'nets' which claims to be a fix for
some Linux Netscape problems:
  http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/www/browsers/nets-2.0.tar.gz

I'm having the same problem that you are.  I haven't had a chance to try
this yet, though.

Greg

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