Re: mounting nfs on boot -- Was: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Rob Owens
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 01:52:19PM +, Darac Marjal wrote:
 Boot speed isn't systemd's goal. It's just a side-effect.
 
 Systemd's real goals are being event driven (so, for example, you don't
 mount a file system until the device is ready - at the moment, debian
 does this with a two-pass mount script: one pass to mount local
 filesystems, then another after networking is up to mount remote
 filesystems, but this gets messy if you have a complex system.) and
snip

Hey, maybe you can tell me why my nfs mounts don't get mounted at boot
time on my computer that uses wicd to manage its wireless network
interface.  The network comes up at boot time (it doesn't require a user
to log in first).  Currently I stick sleep 10s  mount -a in /etc/rc.local 
in order to mount the nfs shares, but I know that shouldn't be necessary.

-Rob


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Re: mounting nfs on boot -- Was: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 05/03/14 10:36, Rob Owens wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 01:52:19PM +, Darac Marjal wrote:
 Boot speed isn't systemd's goal. It's just a side-effect.
 
 Systemd's real goals are being event driven (so, for example, you
 don't mount a file system until the device is ready - at the
 moment, debian does this with a two-pass mount script: one pass
 to mount local filesystems, then another after networking is up
 to mount remote filesystems, but this gets messy if you have a
 complex system.) and
 snip
 
 Hey, maybe you can tell me why my nfs mounts don't get mounted at
 boot time on my computer that uses wicd to manage its wireless
 network interface.  The network comes up at boot time (it doesn't
 require a user to log in first).  Currently I stick sleep 10s 
 mount -a in /etc/rc.local in order to mount the nfs shares, but I
 know that shouldn't be necessary.
 
 -Rob
 

Where are those nfs shares mounted (path)?

Kind regards


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Re: mounting nfs on boot -- Was: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Rob Owens
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 11:07:00AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 05/03/14 10:36, Rob Owens wrote:
  On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 01:52:19PM +, Darac Marjal wrote:
  Boot speed isn't systemd's goal. It's just a side-effect.
  
  Systemd's real goals are being event driven (so, for example, you
  don't mount a file system until the device is ready - at the
  moment, debian does this with a two-pass mount script: one pass
  to mount local filesystems, then another after networking is up
  to mount remote filesystems, but this gets messy if you have a
  complex system.) and
  snip
  
  Hey, maybe you can tell me why my nfs mounts don't get mounted at
  boot time on my computer that uses wicd to manage its wireless
  network interface.  The network comes up at boot time (it doesn't
  require a user to log in first).  Currently I stick sleep 10s 
  mount -a in /etc/rc.local in order to mount the nfs shares, but I
  know that shouldn't be necessary.
  
  -Rob
  
 
 Where are those nfs shares mounted (path)?
 
/mnt/music
/mnt/pics_and_clips

and so-on.


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Re: mounting nfs on boot -- Was: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 05/03/14 11:34, Rob Owens wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 11:07:00AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 05/03/14 10:36, Rob Owens wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 01:52:19PM +, Darac Marjal wrote:
 Boot speed isn't systemd's goal. It's just a side-effect.
 
 Systemd's real goals are being event driven (so, for example,
 you don't mount a file system until the device is ready - at
 the moment, debian does this with a two-pass mount script:
 one pass to mount local filesystems, then another after
 networking is up to mount remote filesystems, but this gets
 messy if you have a complex system.) and
 snip
 
 Hey, maybe you can tell me why my nfs mounts don't get mounted
 at boot time on my computer that uses wicd to manage its
 wireless network interface.  The network comes up at boot time
 (it doesn't require a user to log in first).  Currently I stick
 sleep 10s  mount -a in /etc/rc.local in order to mount the
 nfs shares, but I know that shouldn't be necessary.
 
 -Rob
 
 
 Where are those nfs shares mounted (path)?
 
 /mnt/music /mnt/pics_and_clips
 
 and so-on.
 

Thanks.

I've used the /etc/rc.local  mount -a workaround in the past,
without the need for the sleep command.

In my cases I had the nfs mount being called from fstab, using the
nfsvers=3 option helped when the server was Version 3 (vers= is a
more portable version of that option). You can also
use the timeo=n to set a wait period instead of sleep in
/etc/rc.local e.g. timeo=100 (time is in deciseconds). Use it in
combination with the bg flag and the appropriate retry value.  See man
nfs for more a useful and accurate explanation.

NOTE: I'm assuming you mean that your nfs server/s is accessed with
wireless.

I'm also assuming you've checked the logs for clues. If so you may be
able to get more information by adding the -v (for verbose) to the
mount call in /etc/network/ifup.d/mountnfs (WARNING - untested, thanks
for testing)
e.g.:-
# cp /etc/network/ifup.d/mountnfs{,.bak}
then edit /etc/network/ifup.d/mountnfs
and change:-
if [ $NETFS ]
then
mount -a -t$NETFS
fi
to:-
if [ $NETFS ]
then
mount -va -t$NETFS
fi
and reboot (or restart network services, after umounting the nfs
shares - don't forget to comment out your line in /etc/rc.local)


Kind regards


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more on ( mount NFS during boot problem )

1998-10-24 Thread Sergey V Kovalyov
Even more wierd, I've reinstalled kernel-image (2.0.35 right from slink)
the NFS started working, but dhcpcd stopped - just gives me IP 0.0.0.0
Reinstallation of dhcpcd did not help.
Any ideas ?

Sergey.

On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Sergey V Kovalyov wrote:

 Hi,
 I have a wierd problem: during boot process mount fails with the following
 message:
 
 Starting portmapper... Mounting remote filesystems...
 mount: RPC: Program not registered
 
 But after the boot mount -a works perfectly.
 This runs latest slink from unstable.
 I did not have such a problem on a similar machine a month before.
 
 Any idea of what might cause the problem and how to work around it ?
 
 Something, I think, relevant: later in the process netbase starts its own
 portmapper.
 
 
 Sergey.
 


Re: mount NFS during boot problem

1998-10-24 Thread Lukas Eppler
On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Sergey V Kovalyov wrote:

 Hi,
 I have a wierd problem: during boot process mount fails with the following
 message:
 
 Starting portmapper... Mounting remote filesystems...
 mount: RPC: Program not registered

I saw this once when rpc.mountd and/or rpc.nfsd on the server machine was
not up (i.e. on the other computer). So, maybe it is really the missing
local portmapper. Find out where it gets started, and take a look at the
logs of the other computer, if your machine tries to connect or not.

Gruss
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mount NFS during boot problem

1998-10-23 Thread Sergey V Kovalyov
Hi,
I have a wierd problem: during boot process mount fails with the following
message:

Starting portmapper... Mounting remote filesystems...
mount: RPC: Program not registered

But after the boot mount -a works perfectly.
This runs latest slink from unstable.
I did not have such a problem on a similar machine a month before.

Any idea of what might cause the problem and how to work around it ?

Something, I think, relevant: later in the process netbase starts its own
portmapper.


Sergey.





No nfs, no boot

1997-04-07 Thread Mark Phillips

Hi,

I have my machine setup to mount a disk on another (Debian) linux machine.
Unfortunately when I was rebooting my system, the other machine didn't
want to serve me, so my machine hung with:

NFS server ottifant not responding, still trying.


Now the obvious solution is to fix up the other machine, but the thing
which worried me most was the fact that the attempt to nfs mount didn't
timeout.  Which means that my system is entirely dependent on the other
system in order to boot.

Why is this so?

Thanks.

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Re: No nfs, no boot

1997-04-07 Thread Steve Hsieh
 I have my machine setup to mount a disk on another (Debian) linux machine.
 Unfortunately when I was rebooting my system, the other machine didn't
 want to serve me, so my machine hung with:
 
 NFS server ottifant not responding, still trying.
 
 
 Now the obvious solution is to fix up the other machine, but the thing
 which worried me most was the fact that the attempt to nfs mount didn't
 timeout.  Which means that my system is entirely dependent on the other
 system in order to boot.
 
 Why is this so?

I am guessing that something is probably trying to access a file on the
NFS mounted drive. You could try using the soft option when mounting it.
From the nfs man page:

   soft   If an NFS file operation has a major  time­
  out then report an I/O error to the calling
  program.  The default is to continue retry­
  ing NFS file operations indefinitely.

Alternatively, use amd to automount the drive as necessary.  That works
really nicely.

Steve



Re: No nfs, no boot

1997-04-07 Thread Pete Templin

On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Steve Hsieh wrote:

  Now the obvious solution is to fix up the other machine, but the thing
  which worried me most was the fact that the attempt to nfs mount didn't
  timeout.  Which means that my system is entirely dependent on the other
  system in order to boot.
 
 I am guessing that something is probably trying to access a file on the
 NFS mounted drive. You could try using the soft option when mounting it.
 From the nfs man page:
 
soft   If an NFS file operation has a major  time-
   out then report an I/O error to the calling
   program.  The default is to continue retry-
   ing NFS file operations indefinitely.

Also from nfs(5):

   bg If the first NFS mount attempt  times  out,
  continue  trying  the  mount  in  the back
  ground.  The default is  to  not  to  back
  ground the mount on timeout but fail.

This is almost necessary if two NFS servers are clients of each other.

Pete

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