OT: Perhaps Linux will set the hardware standards?

2002-10-02 Thread Kent West

This is very off-topic, but I just had a thought that I felt strongly 
enough to share.

Right now, hardware manufacturers, like video card makers, make their 
hardware so that each has different interfaces (APIs, etc) that must be 
dealt with in drivers, and often that information is kept proprietary, 
which makes it difficult for XFree86 developers (and company) to get 
things working for every little card out there.

As Linux gains dominance on the desktop (notice I didn't say if, but 
implied when), is it out of line to think that perhaps the XFree86 
developers could set the API standards instead of the hardware 
manufacturers doing so?

In other words, perhaps some day the developers can say Here's the 
interface specs; make your hardware work with it if you want to sell 
your cards.

Pipe dream? Fantasy? Stupid innovation-stifling idea? Good idea? What?

Kent


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Re: OT: Perhaps Linux will set the hardware standards?

2002-10-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On Wednesday 02 October 2002 12:45, Kent West wrote:

 In other words, perhaps some day the developers can say Here's the
 interface specs; make your hardware work with it if you want to sell
 your cards.

 Pipe dream? Fantasy? Stupid innovation-stifling idea? Good idea? What?

 Kent

All of the above (-:

The Xfree people do not care about the cards interface as long as they are 
GIVEN the interface.  The current state of hidden access is more than 
annoying.  But given the current laws and corporate actions, it is only going 
to get worse.


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Re: OT: Perhaps Linux will set the hardware standards?

2002-10-02 Thread John Hasler

Kent West writes:
 In other words, perhaps some day the developers can say Here's the
 interface specs; make your hardware work with it if you want to sell your
 cards.

Bad idea.  Innovative interfaces can be what makes some card superior.

Better: You WILL publish your interface if you want anyone to use it.  If
you want decent market penetration, you'll pay a hacker to write a Free
driver.
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Elmwood, Wisconsin


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Re: OT: Perhaps Linux will set the hardware standards?

2002-10-02 Thread Brian Nelson

Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This is very off-topic, but I just had a thought that I felt strongly
 enough to share.

 Right now, hardware manufacturers, like video card makers, make their
 hardware so that each has different interfaces (APIs, etc) that must be
 dealt with in drivers, and often that information is kept proprietary,
 which makes it difficult for XFree86 developers (and company) to get
 things working for every little card out there.

 As Linux gains dominance on the desktop (notice I didn't say if, but
 implied when), is it out of line to think that perhaps the XFree86
 developers could set the API standards instead of the hardware
 manufacturers doing so?

 In other words, perhaps some day the developers can say Here's the
 interface specs; make your hardware work with it if you want to sell
 your cards.

 Pipe dream? Fantasy? Stupid innovation-stifling idea? Good idea? What?

Isn't this the same idea as VESA?

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