Re: Openjdk vs. sun-java in Debian
On 2011-04-22, Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote: Howdie, fellow Debianites! I need somebody to explain to me in lay terms what's wrong with Java in Debian. I'm running Squeeze and have recently bumped into two Java-related issues: 1. The site http://ndt.switch.ch/ warns me about a missing Java Runtime Environment and prompts me to install it. I checked with aptitude, and sure enough, openjdk-6-jre is installed. You will need the browser plugin as well as the JRE. See the table in http://wiki.debian.org/Java for the available options. If you can tolerate non-free software, then I recommend sun-java6-plugin. 2. The game http://sourceforge.net/projects/bp2k6/files/Bolzplatz%202006/Bolzplatz%202006%20v1.0.3/ won't work, and I'm far too ignorant of Java to find out what exactly I'm missing. Is it that I'm running 64-bit and the game is 32-bit? Or do I need a particular plugin? Or perhaps just a symlink to the right binary somewhere? Or the proprietary Java from Sun? Or something else? Same reason as above, I suspect. Also, in general, how can I know when something Java-related won't work, is it the fault of the open Java I'm using or some wrong configuration somewhere in my system? Hard to say. But you can investigate each incident by switching between Java installations using /usr/sbin/update-java-alternatives (from the java-common package). Is there any simple, yet good howto on this? I haven't found a howto which is both simple and good. A lot of documentation is available, but most of it is complicated and a lot of it is obsolete. -- Liam O'Toole Cork, Ireland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnir5apd.enl.liam.p.otoole@dipsy.tubbynet
Re: Openjdk vs. sun-java in Debian
Thanx for the tips, Camaleon, Sven and Liam. Your answers more or less confirmed my suspicions. Must dig into some recent Java documentation when I find the time ... -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1303597406.9401.0@compax
Openjdk vs. sun-java in Debian
Howdie, fellow Debianites! I need somebody to explain to me in lay terms what's wrong with Java in Debian. I'm running Squeeze and have recently bumped into two Java-related issues: 1. The site http://ndt.switch.ch/ warns me about a missing Java Runtime Environment and prompts me to install it. I checked with aptitude, and sure enough, openjdk-6-jre is installed. 2. The game http://sourceforge.net/projects/bp2k6/files/Bolzplatz%202006/Bolzplatz%202006%20v1.0.3/ won't work, and I'm far too ignorant of Java to find out what exactly I'm missing. Is it that I'm running 64-bit and the game is 32-bit? Or do I need a particular plugin? Or perhaps just a symlink to the right binary somewhere? Or the proprietary Java from Sun? Or something else? Also, in general, how can I know when something Java-related won't work, is it the fault of the open Java I'm using or some wrong configuration somewhere in my system? Is there any simple, yet good howto on this? -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1303497459.12161.6@compax
Re: Openjdk vs. sun-java in Debian
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 20:37:39 +0200, Klistvud wrote: (...) Also, in general, how can I know when something Java-related won't work, is it the fault of the open Java I'm using or some wrong configuration somewhere in my system? Is there any simple, yet good howto on this? Hum... simple way I'd say not, because most of the web sites use a javascript routine to check the java version installed and they can search for any general string like jre or java or they can be more specific and look for Sun Java-whatever-version and act accordingly. To be an online citizen with full rights you need the Sun's java plugin most of the times so if you usually browse sites that requires java VM just install the Sun's JRE and you're done. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.04.22.18.42...@gmail.com
Re: Openjdk vs. sun-java in Debian
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 08:37:39PM +0200, Klistvud wrote: 1. The site http://ndt.switch.ch/ warns me about a missing Java Runtime Environment and prompts me to install it. I checked with aptitude, and sure enough, openjdk-6-jre is installed. Works here with the openjdk from Squeeze. The browser plugin package is called icedtea6-plugin. In most browsers 'about:plugins' lists all installed plugins, might be worth to check if it's listed and thus properly installed aswell. If for any reason it's required to have the 'original' Sun JRE and plugins installed you've to add the non-free part of the archive to your sources list. The browser plugin package is called sun-java6-plugin. HTH Sven -- I don't know much, but I do know this: With a golden heart, comes a rebel fist [ Streetlight Manifesto - Here's To Life ] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110422190601.GA1732@colin
