subject:"Oracle"

Hi,

On 2021-07-07 11:34 p.m., David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 07 Jul 2021 at 20:11:20 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>> On 2021-07-07 5:55 p.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>>> On Mi, 07 iul 21, 16:05:13, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
 On 2021-07-07 2:47 p.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 07 iul 21, 09:35:17, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>>
>> Yes you can downgrand
>> apt-get downlaod linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
>> dpkg -i linux-image-4.19.0.16-amd64.deb
>
> Why so complicated?
>
> If APT can download the package it can also install it (by calling dpkg 
> itself, of course).
>
 You could do so...
 apt-get reinstall linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
>>>
>>> `reinstall` is still two letters longer than a simple `install`, for no 
>>> obvious reason ;)
>>>
>> There's a sentence that says "Don't try to cut hair in four".
>> Why do I state "reinstall" instead of install ?
>> Because he already has the linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
>> So it will only say "already installed".
>> By forcing "reinstall" you also make sure it gets as default kernel for
>> booting.
>>
>> Have something to add ? (Ha ha ha)
 and it will be back as default in grub.
>>>
>>> The default in the grub menu is typically the newest kernel installed, 
>>> regardless of when it was (re)installed.
>> If this is true then all this talk is useless because he already has
>> this kernel installed.
>> So that's a waste of time and simply use the "advanced option".
> 
> It's quite simple really. Grub doesn't know why it was invoked, it's
> just run because something changed. And, as usual, it looks at the
> /current/ state of the system to ascertain how to build grub.cfg.
> 
> If you want to be able to set and change the default entry to boot,
> that's straightforward to do with GRUB_DEFAULT and GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT
> in /etc/default/grub, assuming certain conditions.¹
> 
Wasn't it more simple when using Lilo or Syslinux (Keep It Simple for
Stupid) ?

Yes I know, grub have so much more but sometime you don't need that much
and this just make it more complicated.

A bit like using Microsoft Office 2020... There's so much stuff you
don't need that the options you are looking for feel dissolved in
everything else. So you just find it harder than when it was Word 6.0 or
even better WordPerfect 5.1

> ¹ /boot/grub/ "on a plain disk (no LVM or RAID), using a
>   non-checksumming ﬁlesystem (no ZFS), and using BIOS or
>   EFI functions (no ATA, USB or IEEE1275)."
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
> 

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Re: Oracle Java 16.0.1 CPU usage 100% after kernel update to 4.19.0-17-amd64

2021-07-07 Thread David Wright

On Wed 07 Jul 2021 at 20:11:20 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> On 2021-07-07 5:55 p.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Mi, 07 iul 21, 16:05:13, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> >> On 2021-07-07 2:47 p.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >>> On Mi, 07 iul 21, 09:35:17, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> 
>  Yes you can downgrand
>  apt-get downlaod linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
>  dpkg -i linux-image-4.19.0.16-amd64.deb
> >>>
> >>> Why so complicated?
> >>>
> >>> If APT can download the package it can also install it (by calling dpkg 
> >>> itself, of course).
> >>>
> >> You could do so...
> >> apt-get reinstall linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
> > 
> > `reinstall` is still two letters longer than a simple `install`, for no 
> > obvious reason ;)
> > 
> There's a sentence that says "Don't try to cut hair in four".
> Why do I state "reinstall" instead of install ?
> Because he already has the linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
> So it will only say "already installed".
> By forcing "reinstall" you also make sure it gets as default kernel for
> booting.
> 
> Have something to add ? (Ha ha ha)
> >> and it will be back as default in grub.
> > 
> > The default in the grub menu is typically the newest kernel installed, 
> > regardless of when it was (re)installed.
> If this is true then all this talk is useless because he already has
> this kernel installed.
> So that's a waste of time and simply use the "advanced option".

It's quite simple really. Grub doesn't know why it was invoked, it's
just run because something changed. And, as usual, it looks at the
/current/ state of the system to ascertain how to build grub.cfg.

If you want to be able to set and change the default entry to boot,
that's straightforward to do with GRUB_DEFAULT and GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT
in /etc/default/grub, assuming certain conditions.¹

¹ /boot/grub/ "on a plain disk (no LVM or RAID), using a
  non-checksumming ﬁlesystem (no ZFS), and using BIOS or
  EFI functions (no ATA, USB or IEEE1275)."

Cheers,
David.

Re: Oracle Java 16.0.1 CPU usage 100% after kernel update to 4.19.0-17-amd64

Hi,

On 2021-07-07 5:55 p.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 07 iul 21, 16:05:13, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>> Hi !
>>
>> On 2021-07-07 2:47 p.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>>> On Mi, 07 iul 21, 09:35:17, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:

 Yes you can downgrand
 apt-get downlaod linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
 dpkg -i linux-image-4.19.0.16-amd64.deb
>>>
>>> Why so complicated?
>>>
>>> If APT can download the package it can also install it (by calling dpkg 
>>> itself, of course).
>>>
>> You could do so...
>> apt-get reinstall linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
> 
> `reinstall` is still two letters longer than a simple `install`, for no 
> obvious reason ;)
> 
There's a sentence that says "Don't try to cut hair in four".
Why do I state "reinstall" instead of install ?
Because he already has the linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
So it will only say "already installed".
By forcing "reinstall" you also make sure it gets as default kernel for
booting.

Have something to add ? (Ha ha ha)
>> and it will be back as default in grub.
> 
> The default in the grub menu is typically the newest kernel installed, 
> regardless of when it was (re)installed.
If this is true then all this talk is useless because he already has
this kernel installed.
So that's a waste of time and simply use the "advanced option".
> 
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
> 

Sincerely (with love)

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Re: Oracle Java 16.0.1 CPU usage 100% after kernel update to 4.19.0-17-amd64

2021-07-07 Thread David Wright

On Wed 07 Jul 2021 at 16:05:13 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> On 2021-07-07 2:47 p.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Mi, 07 iul 21, 09:35:17, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes you can downgrand
> >> apt-get downlaod linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
> >> dpkg -i linux-image-4.19.0.16-amd64.deb
> > 
> > Why so complicated?
> > 
> > If APT can download the package it can also install it (by calling dpkg 
> > itself, of course).
> > 
> You could do so...
> apt-get reinstall linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
> and it will be back as default in grub.

Apart from being an extravagant way to try reordering grub.cfg,
of course, it doesn't, because 17 > 16:

# apt-get reinstall linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 48.4 MB of archives.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 
linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64 amd64 4.19.181-1 [48.4 MB]
Fetched 48.4 MB in 4s (10.8 MB/s)  
(Reading database ... 308149 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64_4.19.181-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64 (4.19.181-1) over (4.19.181-1) ...
Setting up linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64 (4.19.181-1) ...
/etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools:
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.19.0-16-amd64
cryptsetup: WARNING: The initramfs image may not contain cryptsetup binaries 
nor crypto modules. If that's on purpose, you may want to uninstall the 
'cryptsetup-initramfs' package in order to disable the cryptsetup initramfs 
integration and avoid this warning.
/etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub:
Generating grub configuration file ...
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.19.0-17-amd64
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.19.0-17-amd64
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.19.0-16-amd64
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.19.0-16-amd64
Found Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) on /dev/sda5
done
Scanning processes...   
Scanning processor microcode... 
Scanning linux images...

Running kernel seems to be up-to-date.

The processor microcode seems to be up-to-date.

No services need to be restarted.

No containers need to be restarted.

No user sessions are running outdated binaries.
# 

and so:

$ grep Loading /boot/grub/grub.cfg
echo'Loading Linux 4.19.0-17-amd64 ...'
echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
echo'Loading Linux 4.19.0-17-amd64 ...'
echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
echo'Loading Linux 4.19.0-17-amd64 ...'
echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
echo'Loading Linux 4.19.0-16-amd64 ...'
echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
echo'Loading Linux 4.19.0-16-amd64 ...'
echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
$ 

Cheers,
David.

Re: Oracle Java 16.0.1 CPU usage 100% after kernel update to 4.19.0-17-amd64

2021-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU

On Mi, 07 iul 21, 16:05:13, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> Hi !
> 
> On 2021-07-07 2:47 p.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Mi, 07 iul 21, 09:35:17, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes you can downgrand
> >> apt-get downlaod linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
> >> dpkg -i linux-image-4.19.0.16-amd64.deb
> > 
> > Why so complicated?
> > 
> > If APT can download the package it can also install it (by calling dpkg 
> > itself, of course).
> > 
> You could do so...
> apt-get reinstall linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64

`reinstall` is still two letters longer than a simple `install`, for no 
obvious reason ;)

> and it will be back as default in grub.

The default in the grub menu is typically the newest kernel installed, 
regardless of when it was (re)installed.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Oracle Java 16.0.1 CPU usage 100% after kernel update to 4.19.0-17-amd64

Hi !

On 2021-07-07 2:47 p.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 07 iul 21, 09:35:17, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>>
>> Yes you can downgrand
>> apt-get downlaod linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
>> dpkg -i linux-image-4.19.0.16-amd64.deb
> 
> Why so complicated?
> 
> If APT can download the package it can also install it (by calling dpkg 
> itself, of course).
> 
You could do so...
apt-get reinstall linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
and it will be back as default in grub.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
> 
Thabks for adding this one.

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Re: Oracle Java 16.0.1 CPU usage 100% after kernel update to 4.19.0-17-amd64

2021-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU

On Mi, 07 iul 21, 09:35:17, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> 
> Yes you can downgrand
> apt-get downlaod linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
> dpkg -i linux-image-4.19.0.16-amd64.deb

Why so complicated?

If APT can download the package it can also install it (by calling dpkg 
itself, of course).


Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Oracle Java 16.0.1 CPU usage 100% after kernel update to 4.19.0-17-amd64

2021-07-07 Thread David Wright

On Wed 07 Jul 2021 at 09:35:17 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> On 2021-07-07 7:59 a.m., Dan Ritter wrote:
> > w f wrote: 
> >> I locally host and maintain some Minecraft (Java) servers for my kids and 
> >> their friends. This morning, I kicked everyone off the servers while I did 
> >> some routine maintenance. I finished with a standard sudo apt update && 
> >> sudo apt full-upgrade
> >> A few things were updated - PHP, a library or two, and the kernel from 
> >> 4.19.0-16-amd64 to 4.19.0-17-amd64
> >> All went fine.
> >> After I was done, I rebooted the system and fired up the MC servers. As 
> >> soon as a player joins an MC server, the CPU usage on all cores slams to 
> >> 100% and stays there. The game is unplayable.
> >> Nothing has changed with regards to the versions of game server, game 
> >> clients, or Java.
> >> Debian buster.Oracle Java 16.0.1
> >> Is there any way to downgrade back to 4.19.0-16-amd64 ... ?

No need.

> Yes you can downgrand
> apt-get downlaod linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
> dpkg -i linux-image-4.19.0.16-amd64.deb
> 
> > Probably, but I can attest that
> > 
> > openjdk-11-jre-headless
> > 
> > runs Minecraft servers perfectly well with that kernel, so
> > perhaps switching Java runtimes is a less drastic choice.
> > 
> I'd go with using openjdk-11-jre-headless
> As it's not a solution to downgrade the kernel, what do you do after
> this ? Stay with this kernel and hope it will be fixed for the next
> update (not knowing what's causing the issue)...

While taking no view on the cause of the problem, I would
recommend that you eliminate a kernel problem by running
version 16 of the kernel.

You should barely need to lift a finger to achieve this,
because version 16 should (a) still be installed, and
(b) be listed in the Grub menu under "Advanced options".

Cheers,
David.

Re: Oracle Java 16.0.1 CPU usage 100% after kernel update to 4.19.0-17-amd64

Hi,

On 2021-07-07 7:59 a.m., Dan Ritter wrote:
> w f wrote: 
>> I locally host and maintain some Minecraft (Java) servers for my kids and 
>> their friends. This morning, I kicked everyone off the servers while I did 
>> some routine maintenance. I finished with a standard sudo apt update && sudo 
>> apt full-upgrade
>> A few things were updated - PHP, a library or two, and the kernel from 
>> 4.19.0-16-amd64 to 4.19.0-17-amd64
>> All went fine.
>> After I was done, I rebooted the system and fired up the MC servers. As soon 
>> as a player joins an MC server, the CPU usage on all cores slams to 100% and 
>> stays there. The game is unplayable.
>> Nothing has changed with regards to the versions of game server, game 
>> clients, or Java.
>> Debian buster.Oracle Java 16.0.1
>> Is there any way to downgrade back to 4.19.0-16-amd64 ... ?
> 
Yes you can downgrand
apt-get downlaod linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
dpkg -i linux-image-4.19.0.16-amd64.deb

> Probably, but I can attest that
> 
> openjdk-11-jre-headless
> 
> runs Minecraft servers perfectly well with that kernel, so
> perhaps switching Java runtimes is a less drastic choice.
> 
I'd go with using openjdk-11-jre-headless
As it's not a solution to downgrade the kernel, what do you do after
this ? Stay with this kernel and hope it will be fixed for the next
update (not knowing what's causing the issue)...
> -dsr-
> 

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Re: Oracle Java 16.0.1 CPU usage 100% after kernel update to 4.19.0-17-amd64

2021-07-07 Thread Dan Ritter

w f wrote: 
> I locally host and maintain some Minecraft (Java) servers for my kids and 
> their friends. This morning, I kicked everyone off the servers while I did 
> some routine maintenance. I finished with a standard sudo apt update && sudo 
> apt full-upgrade
> A few things were updated - PHP, a library or two, and the kernel from 
> 4.19.0-16-amd64 to 4.19.0-17-amd64
> All went fine.
> After I was done, I rebooted the system and fired up the MC servers. As soon 
> as a player joins an MC server, the CPU usage on all cores slams to 100% and 
> stays there. The game is unplayable.
> Nothing has changed with regards to the versions of game server, game 
> clients, or Java.
> Debian buster.Oracle Java 16.0.1
> Is there any way to downgrade back to 4.19.0-16-amd64 ... ?

Probably, but I can attest that

openjdk-11-jre-headless

runs Minecraft servers perfectly well with that kernel, so
perhaps switching Java runtimes is a less drastic choice.

-dsr-

Re: Debian Buster - Installation du client oracle 11.2 en version complete

2021-07-01 Thread phoebus phoebus

Bonjour à tous,

Comme l'a suggéré Bernard dans un courriel, il est possible de se référer à la 
documentation 

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Oracle%20Instant%20Client

Et dans ce cas, en effet il est possible d'installer les différents paquets au 
format RPM via 'alien'.
C'est le choix de contournement que j'utilise pour l'instant et il fonctionne 
(Test via sqlplus OK) au moins au niveau système.
Au niveau applicatif, je verrai lors de l'installation de l'applicatif.

Cordialement,
Thierry

Debian Buster - Installation du client oracle 11.2 en version complete

2021-06-30 Thread phoebus phoebus

Bonjour à tous,

J'utilise une distribution Debian en version 10.10 (Buster, stable).
J'essaye d'installer le client Oracle en version 11.2 en version 64 bits mais 
j'ai quelques petit soucis d'installation.

Je dois installer la version complète du client et pas la version Oracle 
Instant Client (disponible avec un package RPM Linux depuis Oracle Technology 
Network).

J'ai passé la phase de lancer sous X l'installateur "runInstaller" du client 
sous l'utilisateur 'oracle' et validé les écrans successifs en choisissant 
l'option d'installation "Administrateur".
Mais je reste bloqué sur la phase de vérification avec les paquets suivants:

État d'avertissement:
- make-3.80
- binutils-2.15.92.0.2
- gcc(x86_64)-3.4.6
- libaio(x86_64)-0.3.105
- libaio-devel(x86_64)-0.3.105
- libstdc++(x86_64)-3.4.6
- elfutils-libelf-devel-0.97
- sysstat-5.0.5
- libgcc(x86_64)-3.4.6
- libstdc++-devel(x86_64)-3.4.6
- elfutils-libelf(x86_64)-0.97
- glibc-common-2.3.4
- glibc-devel(x86_64)-2.3.4
- gcc-c++(x86_64)-3.4.6
- compat-libstdc++-33(x86_64)-3.2.3
- expat(x86_64)-1.95.7

État d'echec:
- glibc(x86_64)-2.3.4-2.41


J'ai réalisé les opérations suivantes avant de lancer l'installateur Java 
(runinstaller):
Installation de Debian avec l'option "Serveur SSH".
Puis fait:
   # apt-get install xorg xserver-xorg-core libaio1 sysstat gcc g++ expat 
build-essential libdb1-compat binutils rpm sudo unzip
   # echo "Red Hat Linux release 3.0 (drupal)"  > /etc/redhat-release
   # mkdir /var/lib/rpm; rpm --initdb; rpm --rebuilddb

Si j'outrepasse les vérifications et exécute l’installation. L'installateur 
reste bloqué à 65% (phase liaison avec les exécutables ldflags). pas de progrès 
au bout d'une heure à ce niveau.

Note:
Je ne peux pas changer la version de la base Oracle qui est en version 11gR2
L'éditeur de l'application supporte Debian mais demande d'avoir le client 
Oracle en version complète et non la version Oracle Instant Client. 

Pouvez-vous m'aider ou me suggérer des pistes afin de pouvoir faire fonctionner 
le client Linux sous Debian 10 ou du moins passer cette phase de validation ?

Merci d'avance.

Cordialement,
Thierry

Re: [OT] Argentina vs Oracle

2020-02-27 Thread Fernando Romero

Tal cual como decis lo digo con conocimiento de causa

El jue., 27 de feb. de 2020 16:37, Fabián Bonetti 
escribió:

> $6.300.000 de dolares el presupuesto que dio #oracle al gobierno de
> Argentina  para migrar el sistema que usan abogados. Cosa que se puede
> hacer con $0 pesos con los profesionales que mantienen esos sistemas. Un
> escandalo. Salio ayer en tv canal A24 en el programa de Eduardo Feinmann.
>
> Edito: En el estado hay perosnas calificadas con  c.v. brillantes en
> servidores y bd. Que saben hacer eso. No cualquiera esta en el gobierno
> manejando servidores y bd. Si no fumcionan las cosas es por burocracia.
> estamos en argentina no se olviden
> --
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> mi brevedad.
>
>

[OT] Argentina vs Oracle

2020-02-27 Thread Fabián Bonetti

$6.300.000 de dolares el presupuesto que dio #oracle al gobierno de Argentina  
para migrar el sistema que usan abogados. Cosa que se puede hacer con $0 pesos 
con los profesionales que mantienen esos sistemas. Un escandalo. Salio ayer en 
tv canal A24 en el programa de Eduardo Feinmann.

Edito: En el estado hay perosnas calificadas con  c.v. brillantes en servidores 
y bd. Que saben hacer eso. No cualquiera esta en el gobierno manejando 
servidores y bd. Si no fumcionan las cosas es por burocracia. estamos en 
argentina no se olviden
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[CONTRIBUIÇÃO] Oracle - Instalação da extensão OCI8 no PHP

2019-06-13 Thread Henrique Fagundes

Prezado Colegas,

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RE: Oracle VM VirtualBox on MS Windows 10

2018-11-05 Thread s.molnar




-Original Message-
From: Alexandre GRIVEAUX  
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 10:29 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Oracle VM VirtualBox on MS Windows 10

Le 2018-11-05 13:12, s.mol...@sbcglobal.net a écrit :
> I have encountered an unusual (at least for me) problem.
> 
> The only platform that I own that does not run Debian, is my new 
> 64-bit HP laptop.  I had VirtualBox installed on my old 64-bit laptop.
> 
> I just downloaded VirtualBox-5.2.20-125813-Win.exe and installed it on 
> my new HP Laptop without any warning or error messages.  When I ran 
> VirtualBox to install the 64-bit Debian Stretch iso the installer only 
> showed 32-bit Linux applications.
> 
> What is going on  here?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is  a
> fuzzy set
> 
> Consultant
> Stochastic and multiavaiant
> 
> www.molecular-modeling.net [1]
> 
> Skype:  smolnar1
> 
> 
> 
> Links:
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Hello,

Maybe you need to turn ON virtualization from the BIOS/UEFI menu ?

Many thanks. That was the problem, now fixed.


Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is  a fuzzy set
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and multiavaiant
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Re: Oracle VM VirtualBox on MS Windows 10

2018-11-05 Thread Alexandre GRIVEAUX


Le 2018-11-05 13:12, s.mol...@sbcglobal.net a écrit :

I have encountered an unusual (at least for me) problem.

The only platform that I own that does not run Debian, is my new
64-bit HP laptop.  I had VirtualBox installed on my old 64-bit laptop.

I just downloaded VirtualBox-5.2.20-125813-Win.exe and installed it on
my new HP Laptop without any warning or error messages.  When I ran
VirtualBox to install the 64-bit Debian Stretch iso the installer only
showed 32-bit Linux applications.

What is going on  here?

Thanks in advance.

Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is  a
fuzzy set

Consultant
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Hello,

Maybe you need to turn ON virtualization from the BIOS/UEFI menu ?

Thanks.

Oracle VM VirtualBox on MS Windows 10

2018-11-05 Thread s.molnar

I have encountered an unusual (at least for me) problem.

 

The only platform that I own that does not run Debian, is my new 64-bit HP
laptop.  I had VirtualBox installed on my old 64-bit laptop.

 

I just downloaded VirtualBox-5.2.20-125813-Win.exe and installed it on my
new HP Laptop without any warning or error messages.  When I ran VirtualBox
to install the 64-bit Debian Stretch iso the installer only showed 32-bit
Linux applications.

 

What is going on  here?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is  a fuzzy
set

Consultant
Stochastic and multiavaiant

www.molecular-modeling.net  

Skype:  smolnar1

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[OFF] Vaga para profissional Linux, Python e SQL (Oracle XE)

2016-09-23 Thread Linux - Junior Polegato


Bom dia!

   Vaga em empresa comercial atacadista de médio porte em 
Ribeirão Preto - SP, local, CLT, segunda a sexta, 44h semanais, vale 
transporte, refeição no local, seguro de vida, plano odontológico e 40% 
do plano de saúde, salário a combinar.


   Empresa com 100% das máquinas, cerca de 30, com Linux Debian.

   Trabalhos envolvidos:

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hardware, instalação, suporte e manutenção de Linux, rede, CFTV, 
telefonia VoIP e serviços de rede (impressão, digitalização, arquivos), 
além de suporte básico como ajuda com e-mails, arquivos, navegação, 
Libre Office, uso de softwares, celulares, dentre outros.


   - Desenvolvimento: Python, com GUI em PyGTK e Glade, além do 
Pole [1], e banco de dados Oracle XE.


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xdmcp, apt-cacher-ng, dhcp, bind (dns), nfs, samba, firewall (iproute2, 
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   Interessados favor enviar currículo para "rh at 
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Re: Instalando o banco de dados Oracle 12 na distro Linux Oracle 7.2

2016-07-05 Thread Diego Neves

Não seria melhor configurar corretamente, em vez de desativar o SELinux?

Em 2 de julho de 2016 15:37, Henrique Fagundes <henri...@linuxadmin.com.br>
escreveu:

> Prezados colegas,
>
> Primeiramente saudações pinguianas a todos!
>
> Diante de uma dificuldade que tive para realizar o precedimento de
> instalação do banco de dados Oracle 12, resolvi criar um artigo e
> compartilhar com vocês, caso alguém tenha as mesmas dificuldades:
>
> Segue o link:
> http://bit.ly/29dBcDe
>
> Espero que isso ajude alguém!
>
> Abraços a todos!
>
> Atenciosamente,
>
> Henrique Fagundes
> henri...@linuxadmin.com.br
> Skype: magnata-br-rj
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Instalando o banco de dados Oracle 12 na distro Linux Oracle 7.2

2016-07-02 Thread Henrique Fagundes


Prezados colegas,

Primeiramente saudações pinguianas a todos!

Diante de uma dificuldade que tive para realizar o precedimento de 
instalação do banco de dados Oracle 12, resolvi criar um artigo e 
compartilhar com vocês, caso alguém tenha as mesmas dificuldades:


Segue o link:
http://bit.ly/29dBcDe

Espero que isso ajude alguém!

Abraços a todos!

Atenciosamente,

Henrique Fagundes
henri...@linuxadmin.com.br
Skype: magnata-br-rj
Linux User: 475399

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qemu with KVM support compared to professional virtualization products from VMware or Oracle

2015-03-27 Thread Martin T

Hi,

I need to virtualize few dozen virtual-machines for production
environment under Debian host-machine. I like the KISS principle
provided by qemu with KVM support where each utility has its own
specific purpose. For example I set up the virtual switch with
ip/brctl utility or use single qemu executable to crate
virtual-machines. However, is qemu with KVM support as
suitable(stability, reliability) for production environment as so to
say professional virtualization products from VMware or Oracle?


thanks,
Martin


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Re: qemu with KVM support compared to professional virtualization products from VMware or Oracle

2015-03-27 Thread Petter Adsen

On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 10:04:16 +0200
Martin T m4rtn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I need to virtualize few dozen virtual-machines for production
 environment under Debian host-machine. I like the KISS principle
 provided by qemu with KVM support where each utility has its own
 specific purpose. For example I set up the virtual switch with
 ip/brctl utility or use single qemu executable to crate
 virtual-machines. However, is qemu with KVM support as
 suitable(stability, reliability) for production environment as so to

I would say so. I'm running several kvm machines, and have never had
any problems with stability. As a simple (but quite sufficient)
interface I'd recommend virt-manager to create, clone and operate
virtual machines, I find it just as usable as VMware or Virtualbox.
There are other interfaces that simplify common tasks, but virt-manager
takes care of most of what I need to do.

Also, if there are bugs, I'd expect them to be fixed quickly, as a lot
of (big) organizations depend on kvm. Support for kvm/qemu is also
quite good, there are a lot of people with lots of experience with it
out there.

 say professional virtualization products from VMware or Oracle?

Do you mean professional or do you really mean commercial? I'd say
kvm meets professional standards.

You could just try it out with a few VM's, and see what you think. It
wouldn't cost you anything, except your time.

My VPS provider (DigitalOcean) relies on kvm for their day-to-day
business, as does many other big names in the industry, so you
shouldn't need to worry about it being inferior to VMware just because
it doesn't come with a pricy licence.

Petter

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Debian Wheezy + Chrome + Java Oracle 8

2014-07-23 Thread Francis Mariano

Bom dia pessoal,

Talvez essa thread já tenha sido abordada na lista, mas é a primeira vez
que utilizo a mailing list e ainda não sei pesquisar todo o seu conteúdo,
se alguém puder me ajudar, rsrssr

Estou tentando instalar o plugin do java e utilizá-lo com o chrome.
Instalei a pacote oracle java 8 disponibilizado pelo grupo webupd8
http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/how-to-install-oracle-java-8-in-debian.html

Até ai tudo bem. O browser iceweasel o reconheceu, só que o chrome não.

Já tentei criar o link do plugin em /opt/google/chrome/plugins, mas mesmo
assim sem sucesso.

Também tentei instalar outras versões do java openjdk 6 e 7 (default-jre).

Alguém já conseguiu usar o java com o chrome??

Agradeço, desde já.

Re: Debian Wheezy + Chrome + Java Oracle 8

2014-07-23 Thread Tiago Rocha


E tentei o seguintes tutoriais:
https://www.java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/java

Mas não funcionou. Depois eu removi o google Chrome e instalei o 
Chromium ai inexplicavelmente funcionou!

Eu fiquei satisfeito afinal eu uso iceweasel por rasões obvias.
Só preciso do plugin do java pra acessar o BB, e estranhamente o módulo 
de segurança do BB funciona melhor no chrome/chromium, no meu 
iceweasel/firefex as vezes ele trava o navegador.


Abraço!

Em 23-07-2014 09:29, Francis Mariano escreveu:

Bom dia pessoal,

Talvez essa thread já tenha sido abordada na lista, mas é a primeira vez
que utilizo a mailing list e ainda não sei pesquisar todo o seu
conteúdo, se alguém puder me ajudar, rsrssr

Estou tentando instalar o plugin do java e utilizá-lo com o chrome.
Instalei a pacote oracle java 8 disponibilizado pelo grupo webupd8
http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/how-to-install-oracle-java-8-in-debian.html

Até ai tudo bem. O browser iceweasel o reconheceu, só que o chrome não.

Já tentei criar o link do plugin em /opt/google/chrome/plugins, mas
mesmo assim sem sucesso.

Também tentei instalar outras versões do java openjdk 6 e 7 (default-jre).

Alguém já conseguiu usar o java com o chrome??

Agradeço, desde já.


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Re: Debian Wheezy + Chrome + Java Oracle 8

2014-07-23 Thread Francis Mariano

obrigado pela resposta pessoal.

eu não sei qual a versão do meu google chrome, mas eu acho que é a última,
por isso talvez ele não está reconhecendo o plugin.


Em 23 de julho de 2014 10:21, Tiago Rocha tiago.ro...@openmailbox.org
escreveu:

 E tentei o seguintes tutoriais:
 https://www.java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml
 https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/java

 Mas não funcionou. Depois eu removi o google Chrome e instalei o Chromium
 ai inexplicavelmente funcionou!
 Eu fiquei satisfeito afinal eu uso iceweasel por rasões obvias.
 Só preciso do plugin do java pra acessar o BB, e estranhamente o módulo
 de segurança do BB funciona melhor no chrome/chromium, no meu
 iceweasel/firefex as vezes ele trava o navegador.

 Abraço!

 Em 23-07-2014 09:29, Francis Mariano escreveu:

  Bom dia pessoal,

 Talvez essa thread já tenha sido abordada na lista, mas é a primeira vez
 que utilizo a mailing list e ainda não sei pesquisar todo o seu
 conteúdo, se alguém puder me ajudar, rsrssr

 Estou tentando instalar o plugin do java e utilizá-lo com o chrome.
 Instalei a pacote oracle java 8 disponibilizado pelo grupo webupd8
 http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/how-to-install-oracle-java-
 8-in-debian.html

 Até ai tudo bem. O browser iceweasel o reconheceu, só que o chrome não.

 Já tentei criar o link do plugin em /opt/google/chrome/plugins, mas
 mesmo assim sem sucesso.

 Também tentei instalar outras versões do java openjdk 6 e 7 (default-jre).

 Alguém já conseguiu usar o java com o chrome??

 Agradeço, desde já.


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Re: Debian Wheezy + Chrome + Java Oracle 8

2014-07-23 Thread Gabriel Ricardo

http://blog.chromium.org/2013/09/saying-goodbye-to-our-old-friend-npapi.html


Atenciosamente,
*Gabriel Ricardo*
Consultor em Tecnologia
*Cel.:* (41) 8881-7828
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*Site*: www.nerdworkti.com.br


Em 23 de julho de 2014 12:32, Francis Mariano francismari...@gmail.com
escreveu:

 obrigado pela resposta pessoal.

 eu não sei qual a versão do meu google chrome, mas eu acho que é a última,
 por isso talvez ele não está reconhecendo o plugin.


 Em 23 de julho de 2014 10:21, Tiago Rocha tiago.ro...@openmailbox.org
 escreveu:

 E tentei o seguintes tutoriais:
 https://www.java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml
 https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/java

 Mas não funcionou. Depois eu removi o google Chrome e instalei o Chromium
 ai inexplicavelmente funcionou!
 Eu fiquei satisfeito afinal eu uso iceweasel por rasões obvias.
 Só preciso do plugin do java pra acessar o BB, e estranhamente o módulo
 de segurança do BB funciona melhor no chrome/chromium, no meu
 iceweasel/firefex as vezes ele trava o navegador.

 Abraço!

 Em 23-07-2014 09:29, Francis Mariano escreveu:

  Bom dia pessoal,

 Talvez essa thread já tenha sido abordada na lista, mas é a primeira vez
 que utilizo a mailing list e ainda não sei pesquisar todo o seu
 conteúdo, se alguém puder me ajudar, rsrssr

 Estou tentando instalar o plugin do java e utilizá-lo com o chrome.
 Instalei a pacote oracle java 8 disponibilizado pelo grupo webupd8
 http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/how-to-install-oracle-java-
 8-in-debian.html

 Até ai tudo bem. O browser iceweasel o reconheceu, só que o chrome não.

 Já tentei criar o link do plugin em /opt/google/chrome/plugins, mas
 mesmo assim sem sucesso.

 Também tentei instalar outras versões do java openjdk 6 e 7
 (default-jre).

 Alguém já conseguiu usar o java com o chrome??

 Agradeço, desde já.


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Re: Debian Wheezy + Chrome + Java Oracle 8

2014-07-23 Thread Francis Mariano

é a versão mesmo!!


Em 23 de julho de 2014 17:02, Gabriel Ricardo gricard...@gmail.com
escreveu:


 http://blog.chromium.org/2013/09/saying-goodbye-to-our-old-friend-npapi.html


 Atenciosamente,
 *Gabriel Ricardo*
 Consultor em Tecnologia
 *Cel.:* (41) 8881-7828
 *Skype:* gabriel.nerdworkti
 *Facebook:* facebook.com/nerdworkti
 *Site*: www.nerdworkti.com.br


 Em 23 de julho de 2014 12:32, Francis Mariano francismari...@gmail.com
 escreveu:

 obrigado pela resposta pessoal.

 eu não sei qual a versão do meu google chrome, mas eu acho que é a
 última, por isso talvez ele não está reconhecendo o plugin.


 Em 23 de julho de 2014 10:21, Tiago Rocha tiago.ro...@openmailbox.org
 escreveu:

 E tentei o seguintes tutoriais:
 https://www.java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml
 https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/java

 Mas não funcionou. Depois eu removi o google Chrome e instalei o
 Chromium ai inexplicavelmente funcionou!
 Eu fiquei satisfeito afinal eu uso iceweasel por rasões obvias.
 Só preciso do plugin do java pra acessar o BB, e estranhamente o módulo
 de segurança do BB funciona melhor no chrome/chromium, no meu
 iceweasel/firefex as vezes ele trava o navegador.

 Abraço!

 Em 23-07-2014 09:29, Francis Mariano escreveu:

  Bom dia pessoal,

 Talvez essa thread já tenha sido abordada na lista, mas é a primeira vez
 que utilizo a mailing list e ainda não sei pesquisar todo o seu
 conteúdo, se alguém puder me ajudar, rsrssr

 Estou tentando instalar o plugin do java e utilizá-lo com o chrome.
 Instalei a pacote oracle java 8 disponibilizado pelo grupo webupd8
 http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/how-to-install-oracle-java-
 8-in-debian.html

 Até ai tudo bem. O browser iceweasel o reconheceu, só que o chrome não.

 Já tentei criar o link do plugin em /opt/google/chrome/plugins, mas
 mesmo assim sem sucesso.

 Também tentei instalar outras versões do java openjdk 6 e 7
 (default-jre).

 Alguém já conseguiu usar o java com o chrome??

 Agradeço, desde já.


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Re: Sun/Oracle Java

2014-04-19 Thread Scott Ferguson

On 19/04/14 16:19, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:13:54PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 There's really no need to pass laws against bad weather, or sharp
 corners on furniture, to protect idiots from themselves.
 
 :)
 
 On the blender I have, it's got CAUTION: NEVER PLACE BLADE ASSEMBLY ON
 BASE UNLESS ASSEMBLED TO JAR.

leaving many operators trying to find a jar to fit

 
 As if anyone would even consider it!
 

That warning is there to advise the sort of cautious and conscientious
people that do read warnings (and look with their eyes) before powering
on equipment, of the bleeding obvious. But mostly so that those who
look with their fingers (I was just looking) and don't think, or
read, before operating - do, with the inevitable tearful and messy
result, they can be advised - you were warned.
Part liability reduction, part black humour. In the case of marking the
bottom of takeaway coffee cups Warning - contents may be hot and
Other end up - mostly black humour.


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Re: Sun/Oracle Java

2014-04-18 Thread Oliver Fairhall


Hi,

Hope I didn't open a can of worms here.

On 17/04/14 10:13, Scott Ferguson wrote:

The presumption was made that the majority of readers, including the
OP, would have the basic intelligence necessary to differentiate between
the instructions to use the latest java package and an *example* using
an example version.
...
Regards.


It's all good mate, I got the idea. Your instructions really were useful 
for me, and having the 'example' specified for an older version is not 
an issue at all, imo.


Thanks again,

Oli


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Re: Sun/Oracle Java

2014-04-18 Thread Andrew McGlashan

On 19/04/2014 12:21 AM, Oliver Fairhall wrote:
 On 17/04/14 10:13, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 The presumption was made that the majority of readers, including the
 OP, would have the basic intelligence necessary to differentiate between
 the instructions to use the latest java package and an *example* using
 an example version.
 ...
 Regards.
 
 It's all good mate, I got the idea. Your instructions really were useful
 for me, and having the 'example' specified for an older version is not
 an issue at all, imo.

Yes, fair enough from me too, sorry for the noise.  Sometimes though, it
helps when there is a chance that something so simple would be missed by
someone ... anyone, to just point out a potential problem /may/ or /may
not/ have helped.

Cheers
A.


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Re: Sun/Oracle Java

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Mestiashvili


On 04/16/2014 10:09 PM, Ric Moore wrote:

On 04/16/2014 03:16 AM, Frank Weißer wrote:

Hi Oliver!


 Facing the same problem a while ago, i somewhere found a hint to add

 deb http://www.duinsoft.nl/pkg debs all

 to sources.list. Don't remember from where, but it works for me on
 debian testing.


I use this with Debian Wheezy and Jessie

|sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer

It does everything, including updating the browser, correcting the 
links in alternatives and setting paths. It's blooming magic. I too 
have an app that refuses to run with OpenJDK. Ric
http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html 








But it is not  for Debian!, even if it works it doesn't mean that it is 
a good idea to inlcude ubuntu ppa-s into debian.


the official way seem to be java-package: 
https://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage


I personally stick to rraptor: https://github.com/rraptorr/oracle-java7

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Re: Sun/Oracle Java

2014-04-17 Thread Ric Moore


On 04/17/2014 04:21 AM, Alex Mestiashvili wrote:

On 04/16/2014 10:09 PM, Ric Moore wrote:

On 04/16/2014 03:16 AM, Frank Weißer wrote:

Hi Oliver!


 Facing the same problem a while ago, i somewhere found a hint to add

 deb http://www.duinsoft.nl/pkg debs all

 to sources.list. Don't remember from where, but it works for me on
 debian testing.


I use this with Debian Wheezy and Jessie

|sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer

It does everything, including updating the browser, correcting the 
links in alternatives and setting paths. It's blooming magic. I too 
have an app that refuses to run with OpenJDK. Ric
http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html 








But it is not  for Debian!, even if it works it doesn't mean that it 
is a good idea to inlcude ubuntu ppa-s into debian.


the official way seem to be java-package: 
https://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage


I personally stick to rraptor: https://github.com/rraptorr/oracle-java7
All it does is fetch Oracle Java, straight from Oracle and install it. 
Then it updates alternatives and your browser. THAT is the major benefit 
of it, that you don't have to bleed from your eyeballs trying to do all 
of that on your own. That much is pretty much standard between Ubuntu, 
Debian, Mint, etc. It does not install anything else from that ppa, just 
a script that does what it does. Keep in mind that many do not even know 
of the existence of alternatives. Plus, it will auto-update to the 
latest Java version in the usual apt-get update apt-get upgrade session.


Or, continue to use the brass-knuckles method of installing Oracle Java 
on your own. Hint: You will never get alternatives set correctly, unless 
you are a real dyed-in-the-wool guru. I just checked out the how-to for 
java-package. That appears to be a lot of work. I'll stick with the 
method I use. I never have to touch it. Ric



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Re: Sun/Oracle Java

2014-04-16 Thread Frank Weißer

Hi Oliver!

Facing the same problem a while ago, i somewhere found a hint to add

deb http://www.duinsoft.nl/pkg debs all

to sources.list. Don't remember from where, but it works for me on
debian testing.

readU
Frank

Am 16.04.2014 05:27, schrieb Oliver Fairhall:
 Hi,
 
 Setting up a new machine, noticed that Sun/Oracle Java is no longer
 available to Debian.
 
 Saw a post here with an explanation:
 
 http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/2011/08/26/sun_java6_packages_removed_from_debian_u
 
 
 Unfortunately, there are limitations and issues with OpenJDK, and
 incompatibilities with various software.
 
 I'm not sure how it has worked in the past, but presumably someone
 manually built the installation package for Debian. Would it be possible
 to do this for oneself? I assume there is no source available to
 compile. Is it feasible to convert an rpm release for use with Debian?
 I've tried this sort of thing before, but with mixed results.
 
 Sorry if this has been covered already - I couldn't see mention of it in
 my email search.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Oliver
 
 


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Re: Sun/Oracle Java

2014-04-16 Thread Oliver Fairhall


Hi folks,

On 16/04/14 11:49, Luis Eduardo Cortes wrote:

Googling I've found this article:

http://d.stavrovski.net/blog/post/installing-oracle-java-7-on-debian-wheezy

Hope this is helpful for you.

Regards.


On 16/04/14 13:34, Scott Ferguson wrote: On Wheezy you can make a 
debian package of the latest java.

 It just works.
 ...
 Kind regards

On 16/04/14 15:16, Frank Weißer wrote: Hi Oliver!
 Facing the same problem a while ago, i somewhere found a hint to add

 deb http://www.duinsoft.nl/pkg debs all

 to sources.list. Don't remember from where, but it works for me on
 debian testing.

 readU
 Frank

Thank you all so much for your prompt, and lucid help! Just had a quick 
read of the links etc, and it looks easily manageable.


Cheers,

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Re: Sun/Oracle Java

2014-04-16 Thread Andrew McGlashan

On 16/04/2014 3:34 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 # make-jpkg jre-7u21-linux-i586.tar.gz

If you need Java, then you really *must* have the latest version, 7u21
is quite old now .. there have been 5 updates including the latest at
7u55 [1].

Cheers
A.

Footnote: It has been said that JAVA stands for:
   Just Another Vulnerability Update  ;-)

[1] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/7u-relnotes-515228.html




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Re: Sun/Oracle Java

2014-04-16 Thread Brad Rogers

On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 03:27:48 +1000
Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote:

Hello Andrew,

Footnote: It has been said that JAVA stands for:
   Just Another Vulnerability Update  ;-)

(smiley noted)

Wouldn't that be JAV*U*?   :-)

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Re: Sun/Oracle Java

2014-04-16 Thread Andrew McGlashan

On 17/04/2014 3:56 AM, Brad Rogers wrote:
 On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 03:27:48 +1000
 Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote:
 
 Hello Andrew,
 
 Footnote: It has been said that JAVA stands for:
   Just Another Vulnerability Update  ;-)
 
 (smiley noted)
 
 Wouldn't that be JAV*U*?   :-)

Whoops, the last A is for Announcement ...

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Re: Sun/Oracle Java

2014-04-16 Thread Ric Moore


On 04/16/2014 03:16 AM, Frank Weißer wrote:

Hi Oliver!


 Facing the same problem a while ago, i somewhere found a hint to add

 deb http://www.duinsoft.nl/pkg debs all

 to sources.list. Don't remember from where, but it works for me on
 debian testing.


I use this with Debian Wheezy and Jessie

|sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer

It does everything, including updating the browser, correcting the links 
in alternatives and setting paths. It's blooming magic. I too have an 
app that refuses to run with OpenJDK. Ric

http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html



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Re: Sun/Oracle Java

2014-04-16 Thread Scott Ferguson

On 17/04/14 03:27, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
 On 16/04/2014 3:34 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 # make-jpkg jre-7u21-linux-i586.tar.gz
 
 If you need Java, then you really *must* have the latest version, 7u21
 is quite old now .. there have been 5 updates including the latest at
 7u55 [1].
 
 Cheers
 A.
snipped as irrelevant
 
 
 
 

The presumption was made that the majority of readers, including the
OP, would have the basic intelligence necessary to differentiate between
the instructions to use the latest java package and an *example* using
an example version.
There's really no need to pass laws against bad weather, or sharp
corners on furniture, to protect idiots from themselves - it's just not
possible, as demonstrated by your confirmation biased ability to read
stupid in carefully worded instructions.

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Sun/Oracle Java

2014-04-15 Thread Oliver Fairhall


Hi,

Setting up a new machine, noticed that Sun/Oracle Java is no longer 
available to Debian.


Saw a post here with an explanation:

http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/2011/08/26/sun_java6_packages_removed_from_debian_u

Unfortunately, there are limitations and issues with OpenJDK, and 
incompatibilities with various software.


I'm not sure how it has worked in the past, but presumably someone 
manually built the installation package for Debian. Would it be possible 
to do this for oneself? I assume there is no source available to 
compile. Is it feasible to convert an rpm release for use with Debian? 
I've tried this sort of thing before, but with mixed results.


Sorry if this has been covered already - I couldn't see mention of it in 
my email search.


Cheers,

Oliver


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Re: Sun/Oracle Java

2014-04-15 Thread Luis Eduardo Cortes

2014-04-16 0:27 GMT-03:00 Oliver Fairhall o.fairh...@iinet.net.au:
 Hi,

 Setting up a new machine, noticed that Sun/Oracle Java is no longer
 available to Debian.

 Saw a post here with an explanation:

 http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/2011/08/26/sun_java6_packages_removed_from_debian_u

 Unfortunately, there are limitations and issues with OpenJDK, and
 incompatibilities with various software.

 I'm not sure how it has worked in the past, but presumably someone manually
 built the installation package for Debian. Would it be possible to do this
 for oneself? I assume there is no source available to compile. Is it
 feasible to convert an rpm release for use with Debian? I've tried this sort
 of thing before, but with mixed results.

 Sorry if this has been covered already - I couldn't see mention of it in my
 email search.


Googling I've found this article:

http://d.stavrovski.net/blog/post/installing-oracle-java-7-on-debian-wheezy

Hope this is helpful for you.

Regards.



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Re: Sun/Oracle Java

2014-04-15 Thread Scott Ferguson

On 16/04/14 13:27, Oliver Fairhall wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Setting up a new machine, noticed that Sun/Oracle Java is no longer
 available to Debian.
 
 Saw a post here with an explanation:
 
 http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/2011/08/26/sun_java6_packages_removed_from_debian_u
 
 
 Unfortunately, there are limitations and issues with OpenJDK, and
 incompatibilities with various software.
 
 I'm not sure how it has worked in the past, but presumably someone
 manually built the installation package for Debian. Would it be possible
 to do this for oneself? I assume there is no source available to
 compile. Is it feasible to convert an rpm release for use with Debian?
 I've tried this sort of thing before, but with mixed results.


On Wheezy you can make a debian package of the latest java.
It just works.


Install java-package from Sid.
Download the latest java package.
Use java-package to make a debian package.
Use dpkg -i to install the debian package.

e.g. for last jre on Wheezy (after installing the Sid java-package):-
Removed symbolic links to libnpjp2.so and libjavaplugin_oji.so from
/plugins directories

Removed previously installed versions from /usr/lib/java and /usr/lib/jvm

Iceweasel → Tools → Addons → Plugins
Disabled and removed earlier Java version

In the same directory as the recently downloaded Oracle java package:-
# make-jpkg jre-7u21-linux-i586.tar.gz
su -c “dpkg -i oracle-j2re1.7_1.7.0+update21_i386.deb”
Password:
Selecting previously deselected package oracle-j2re1.7.
(Reading database ... 243736 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking oracle-j2re1.7 (from oracle-j2re1.7_1.7.0+update21_i386.deb) ...
Setting up oracle-j2re1.7 (1.7.0+update21) ...
update-alternatives: warning: alternative
/usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_09/bin/java (part of link group java) doesn't
exist. Removing from list of alternatives.
update-alternatives: warning: /etc/alternatives/java is dangling, it
will be updated with best choice.
update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java to
provide /usr/bin/java (java) in auto mode.
update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/j2re1.7-oracle/bin/ControlPanel
to provide /usr/bin/ControlPanel (ControlPanel) in auto mode.
update-alternatives: using
/usr/lib/jvm/j2re1.7-oracle/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so to provide
/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/libjavaplugin.so (iceweasel-javaplugin.so) in
auto mode.
update-alternatives: using
/usr/lib/jvm/j2re1.7-oracle/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so to provide
/usr/lib/chromium/plugins/libjavaplugin.so (chromium-javaplugin.so) in
auto mode.

 
 Sorry if this has been covered already - I couldn't see mention of it in
 my email search.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Oliver
 
 

Kind regards


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Re: is there a risk to program in java since sun is bought by oracle

2014-04-10 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri

The only problem with Java is that it is a bit old for current architectures. 
There are better languages that run on the JVM (Clojure and Scala to name two).

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 On 09/apr/2014, at 22:31, abdelkader belahcene abelahc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 is there a risk to program in java since sun is bought by oracle ?


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Re: is there a risk to program in java since sun is bought by oracle

2014-04-10 Thread shawn wilson

(Nice top post)

On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri
gianuberto.la...@gmail.com wrote:
 The only problem with Java is that it is a bit old for current 
 architectures. There are better languages that run on the JVM (Clojure and 
 Scala to name two).


The problems with java come from allowing untrusted compiled code to
run natively on your machine (WebStart). Web services, databases,
Android apps, etc don't have this issue. However, I'm pretty sure you
can write Scala/Clojure WebStart apps that would have the same issues
as native Java has here.

The Java culture tends to piss me off so I try to stay away from it
(and I like scripting languages better anyway).

 On 09/apr/2014, at 22:31, abdelkader belahcene abelahc...@gmail.com wrote:

 is there a risk to program in java since sun is bought by oracle ?


AFAIK, the issue with Oracle is their release cycle (not sure if
that's still the case).


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Re: is there a risk to program in java since sun is bought by oracle

2014-04-10 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri

shawn wilson writes:

  The problems with java come from allowing untrusted compiled code to
  run natively on your machine (WebStart).

I think that this problem arises with EVERY and EACH programming
language. 

You trust Debian software packages because you trust Debian, not because
of the programming language they are written in.

  Web services, databases,

A web  service running in  a language  that is vulnerable  to exploits
leveraging  malfunction of  the code  handling the  service (i.e.  not
runnning in a virtual machine like JVM or CLR) are dangerous indeed.

Database access done in a sloppy way may be dangerous.

  Android apps, etc don't have this issue.

For  Android is  false, there  are  known episodes  of malicious  apps
slipping in the app markets.

  (and I like scripting languages better anyway).

And maybe you use eval() type functions. A door that must be carefully
secured aganst potentially hostile code.

You say taht you don't like  Java culture, and this is the only thing
that holds, since what you like or dislike are something you and only
you can and is entitled to choose.

As for myself, Java has something I like and other things I don't.

As for any language.

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Re: is there a risk to program in java since sun is bought by oracle

2014-04-10 Thread abdelkader belahcene

Sorry, may be my question is not clear,

I mean :  what will be happen if oracle decides to close the software ???

same reason for what  libreoffice ( instead of openoffice ) and Mariadb (
instead of mysql) are  created !!!
am I wrong??


is it not same pb?

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On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri sa...@eng.it wrote:

 shawn wilson writes:

   The problems with java come from allowing untrusted compiled code to
   run natively on your machine (WebStart).

 I think that this problem arises with EVERY and EACH programming
 language.

 You trust Debian software packages because you trust Debian, not because
 of the programming language they are written in.

   Web services, databases,

 A web  service running in  a language  that is vulnerable  to exploits
 leveraging  malfunction of  the code  handling the  service (i.e.  not
 runnning in a virtual machine like JVM or CLR) are dangerous indeed.

 Database access done in a sloppy way may be dangerous.

   Android apps, etc don't have this issue.

 For  Android is  false, there  are  known episodes  of malicious  apps
 slipping in the app markets.

   (and I like scripting languages better anyway).

 And maybe you use eval() type functions. A door that must be carefully
 secured aganst potentially hostile code.

 You say taht you don't like  Java culture, and this is the only thing
 that holds, since what you like or dislike are something you and only
 you can and is entitled to choose.

 As for myself, Java has something I like and other things I don't.

 As for any language.

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Re: is there a risk to program in java since sun is bought by oracle

2014-04-10 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri

abdelkader belahcene writes:
  Sorry, may be my question is not clear,
  
  I mean :  what will be happen if oracle decides to close the software ???

We will use OpenJDK. 
 
  same reason for what  libreoffice ( instead of openoffice ) and Mariadb (
  instead of mysql) are  created !!!
  am I wrong??
  
  
  is it not same pb?

Yep, with the same solution. AFAIK there are a set of specifications that
everybody can follow to build a JVM.

The Free Software world could even drop explicit compatibility.

But it's unlikely. Closing Java more than it's closed now would mean
KILL the technology. Java has all this hype thanks to Free Software
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2014-04-09 Thread abdelkader belahcene

is there a risk to program in java since sun is bought by oracle ?

Re: is there a risk to program in java since sun is bought by oracle

2014-04-09 Thread Kevin Price

No, there are several open implementations of the jdk, java is the recommended 
language for Android, and oracle has continued to support java well. Maybe 
someone knows something that I don't, but it seems like you should hack in the 
language you like best. 
On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 09:31:49PM +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote:
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Re: instalacion oracle database 12c x86_64

2014-03-17 Thread Roberto


El 12/03/2014 4:35, Francisco javier escribió:

hola listeros. mi consulta es si alguien a podido montar esta base de
datos en debian wheezy?, porque busque info, pero es para squeeze, y
antes de adentrarme en el tema, me gustaría saber si funciona perfecto.
si tiene algunos trucos de configuraciones, etc.
todo esto es para unos de mis últimos ramos de BBDD en la universidad. y
me dieron a elegir entre Ms-sql, y oracle.


saludos!!




Te puedes descargar OEL de la web de Oracle y te quitas de perder tiempo 
adaptando parametros de kernel y dependencias de librerias concretas...



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Re: instalacion oracle database 12c x86_64

2014-03-12 Thread C. L. Martinez

2014-03-12 3:46 GMT+00:00 Francisco javier francisco...@gmail.com:
El 12 de marzo de 2014, 0:40, Jose Maldonado josemal...@gmail.com escribió:

El 11/03/14 23:05, Francisco javier escribió:
hola listeros. mi consulta es si alguien a podido montar esta base de datos
en debian wheezy?, porque busque info, pero es para squeeze, y antes de
adentrarme en el tema, me gustaría saber si funciona perfecto. si tiene
algunos trucos de configuraciones, etc.
todo esto es para unos de mis últimos ramos de BBDD en la universidad. y me
dieron a elegir entre Ms-sql, y oracle.

saludos!!

Pues la verdad no tengo ni idea, sin embargo, si tienes un método para
hacerlo funcionar en Squeeze porque no lo pruebas adaptando sus pasos
para Wheezy.

Además si tienes la opción de usar MySQL o MariaDB no hay que te impida
trabajar en esos sistemas que igualmente son ampliamente usados.

Dios en su Cielo, todo bien en la Tierra
*

gracias por responder, si fuera a hacer algo funcionar, optaria por
mariaDB, pero esta vez es para aprender sistemas de BBDD mas
complejos, y mysql y sus forks se quedan cortos con eso.
al momento estoy con este manual
http://www.debian-administration.org/article/656/Installing_Oracle11_and_Oracle12_on_Debian_Wheezy_Squeeze

pero, repito, si alguien ya lo hizo que me comente.
saludos!

Si se trata de aprender, y tienes recursos para hacerlo (aunque con
vms es más sencillo), yo haria las pruebas con fuego real. Es decir,
descárgate Oracle Linux 6.5 (o bien una SLES 11 o una RHEL 6.5 o
CentOS) y Oracle 12c. Eso es lo que te vas a encontrar en la vida real
... Dudo que puedas ver una Debian con Oracle 12c en entornos de
producción

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Re: instalacion oracle database 12c x86_64

2014-03-12 Thread Francisco javier

El día 12 de marzo de 2014, 3:31, C. L. Martinez
carlopm...@gmail.com escribió:
 2014-03-12 3:46 GMT+00:00 Francisco javier francisco...@gmail.com:
 El 12 de marzo de 2014, 0:40, Jose Maldonado josemal...@gmail.com escribió:

 El 11/03/14 23:05, Francisco javier escribió:
  hola listeros. mi consulta es si alguien a podido montar esta base de 
  datos
  en debian wheezy?, porque busque info, pero es para squeeze, y antes de
  adentrarme en el tema, me gustaría saber si funciona perfecto. si tiene
  algunos trucos de configuraciones, etc.
  todo esto es para unos de mis últimos ramos de BBDD en la universidad. y 
  me
  dieron a elegir entre Ms-sql, y oracle.
 
 
  saludos!!
 

 Pues la verdad no tengo ni idea, sin embargo, si tienes un método para
 hacerlo funcionar en Squeeze porque no lo pruebas adaptando sus pasos
 para Wheezy.

 Además si tienes la opción de usar MySQL o MariaDB no hay que te impida
 trabajar en esos sistemas que igualmente son ampliamente usados.

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 gracias por responder, si fuera a hacer algo funcionar, optaria por
 mariaDB, pero esta vez es para aprender sistemas de BBDD mas
 complejos, y mysql y sus forks se quedan cortos con eso.
 al momento estoy con este manual
 http://www.debian-administration.org/article/656/Installing_Oracle11_and_Oracle12_on_Debian_Wheezy_Squeeze


 pero, repito, si alguien ya lo hizo que me comente.
 saludos!



 Si se trata de aprender, y tienes recursos para hacerlo (aunque con
 vms es más sencillo), yo haria las pruebas con fuego real. Es decir,
 descárgate Oracle Linux 6.5 (o bien una SLES 11 o una RHEL 6.5 o
 CentOS) y Oracle 12c. Eso es lo que te vas a encontrar en la vida real
 ... Dudo que puedas ver una Debian con Oracle 12c en entornos de
 producción


creo que me montare una vm, me encotre una beta de RHEL 7, creo que
tienes razón, en un entorno de producción rara vez veré un debian con
oracle, saludos!
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Re: instalacion oracle database 12c x86_64

2014-03-12 Thread Camaleón

El Wed, 12 Mar 2014 00:35:17 -0300, Francisco javier escribió:

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 hola listeros. mi consulta es si alguien a podido montar esta base de
 datos en debian wheezy?, porque busque info, pero es para squeeze, y
 antes de adentrarme en el tema, me gustaría saber si funciona perfecto.
 si tiene algunos trucos de configuraciones, etc.

Pues tienes info para aburrir (primeros enlaces de Google):

Installing Oracle11 and Oracle12 on Debian Wheezy, Squeeze
http://www.debian-administration.org/article/656/Installing_Oracle11_and_Oracle12_on_Debian_Wheezy_Squeeze

Oracle 12c Installation on Debian Wheezy
http://www.fairtec.at/it-blog-mainmenu-16/169-oracle-12c-installation-on-debian-wheezy

 todo esto es para unos de mis últimos ramos de BBDD en la universidad. y
 me dieron a elegir entre Ms-sql, y oracle.

Pues vaya con los profes, ¿no saben qué es eso del FLOSS? ;-)

Saludos,

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Re: instalacion oracle database 12c x86_64

2014-03-12 Thread C. L. Martinez

2014-03-12 15:23 GMT+00:00 Francisco javier francisco...@gmail.com:
El día 12 de marzo de 2014, 3:31, C. L. Martinez
carlopm...@gmail.com escribió:
2014-03-12 3:46 GMT+00:00 Francisco javier francisco...@gmail.com:
El 12 de marzo de 2014, 0:40, Jose Maldonado josemal...@gmail.com
escribió:

El 11/03/14 23:05, Francisco javier escribió:
hola listeros. mi consulta es si alguien a podido montar esta base de
datos
en debian wheezy?, porque busque info, pero es para squeeze, y antes de
adentrarme en el tema, me gustaría saber si funciona perfecto. si tiene
algunos trucos de configuraciones, etc.
todo esto es para unos de mis últimos ramos de BBDD en la universidad. y
me
dieron a elegir entre Ms-sql, y oracle.

saludos!!

Pues la verdad no tengo ni idea, sin embargo, si tienes un método para
hacerlo funcionar en Squeeze porque no lo pruebas adaptando sus pasos
para Wheezy.

Además si tienes la opción de usar MySQL o MariaDB no hay que te impida
trabajar en esos sistemas que igualmente son ampliamente usados.

Dios en su Cielo, todo bien en la Tierra
*

pero, repito, si alguien ya lo hizo que me comente.
saludos!

creo que me montare una vm, me encotre una beta de RHEL 7, creo que
tienes razón, en un entorno de producción rara vez veré un debian con
oracle, saludos!
--

Yo no utilizaría una beta de RHEL7, te puede petar por todos sitios
con un Oracle 12c ... Tanto Oracle Linux como CentOS son free as a
beer, como les gusta decir a los anglosajones :))

Saludos.

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instalacion oracle database 12c x86_64

2014-03-11 Thread Francisco javier

hola listeros. mi consulta es si alguien a podido montar esta base de datos
en debian wheezy?, porque busque info, pero es para squeeze, y antes de
adentrarme en el tema, me gustaría saber si funciona perfecto. si tiene
algunos trucos de configuraciones, etc.
todo esto es para unos de mis últimos ramos de BBDD en la universidad. y me
dieron a elegir entre Ms-sql, y oracle.


saludos!!

Re: instalacion oracle database 12c x86_64

2014-03-11 Thread Jose Maldonado

El 11/03/14 23:05, Francisco javier escribió:
 hola listeros. mi consulta es si alguien a podido montar esta base de datos
 en debian wheezy?, porque busque info, pero es para squeeze, y antes de
 adentrarme en el tema, me gustaría saber si funciona perfecto. si tiene
 algunos trucos de configuraciones, etc.
 todo esto es para unos de mis últimos ramos de BBDD en la universidad. y me
 dieron a elegir entre Ms-sql, y oracle.
 
 
 saludos!!
 

Pues la verdad no tengo ni idea, sin embargo, si tienes un método para
hacerlo funcionar en Squeeze porque no lo pruebas adaptando sus pasos
para Wheezy.

Además si tienes la opción de usar MySQL o MariaDB no hay que te impida
trabajar en esos sistemas que igualmente son ampliamente usados.

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Re: instalacion oracle database 12c x86_64

2014-03-11 Thread Francisco javier

El 12 de marzo de 2014, 0:40, Jose Maldonado josemal...@gmail.com escribió:

 El 11/03/14 23:05, Francisco javier escribió:
  hola listeros. mi consulta es si alguien a podido montar esta base de datos
  en debian wheezy?, porque busque info, pero es para squeeze, y antes de
  adentrarme en el tema, me gustaría saber si funciona perfecto. si tiene
  algunos trucos de configuraciones, etc.
  todo esto es para unos de mis últimos ramos de BBDD en la universidad. y me
  dieron a elegir entre Ms-sql, y oracle.
 
 
  saludos!!
 

 Pues la verdad no tengo ni idea, sin embargo, si tienes un método para
 hacerlo funcionar en Squeeze porque no lo pruebas adaptando sus pasos
 para Wheezy.

 Además si tienes la opción de usar MySQL o MariaDB no hay que te impida
 trabajar en esos sistemas que igualmente son ampliamente usados.

 --

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 *





gracias por responder, si fuera a hacer algo funcionar, optaria por
mariaDB, pero esta vez es para aprender sistemas de BBDD mas
complejos, y mysql y sus forks se quedan cortos con eso.
al momento estoy con este manual
http://www.debian-administration.org/article/656/Installing_Oracle11_and_Oracle12_on_Debian_Wheezy_Squeeze


pero, repito, si alguien ya lo hizo que me comente.
saludos!


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Re: Instalando Oracle Java 7 no Debian

2014-01-13 Thread Rodolfo

A maneira mais fácil é entrar no site da Oracle, escolher o  Java e baixar,
depois instalar.

Em 12 de janeiro de 2014 21:52, Manoel Pedro de Araújo
mpara...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Instalei o java de maneira mais facil que o seu, sem pegar do repositorio
 do ubuntu.


 Em 12 de janeiro de 2014 21:52, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh 
 h...@debian.org escreveu:

 On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Vinicius wrote:
  Precisei instalar o java da Oracle, para poder rodar uma plataforma
  de desenvolvimento do Android. O site da Oracle não dá maiores
  informações, manda apenas descompactar em algum diretório, como se
  isso fosse o suficiente. Mas existem uma série de links em
  /etc/alternatives que devem ser criados/editados.

 Instale o pacote java-package da backports.  Baixe o pacote jdk,
 server-jdk
 ou jre da Oracle conforme a necessidade.  Não baixe o RPM, precisa ser o
 outro pacote, que não é RPM.

 Rode o comando make-jpkg arquivo baixado da Oracle.  Ele vai gerar um
 .deb.  Instale o .deb gerado.  Pronto.

 Maiores informações, man make-jpkg (só com o pacote java-package
 instalado).

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   where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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Re: Instalando Oracle Java 7 no Debian

2014-01-13 Thread Rubens Junior

Prezados,
nao sei se eu faco fora do padrao, mas o q eu faco eh baixar o pacote
diretamente do site da oracle, descompactar e criar duas variaveis de
ambiente JAVA_HOME e JRE_HOME, nunca editei/alterei nada no
/etc/alternatives e talz, e sempre funcionou comigo.


Em 13 de janeiro de 2014 09:17, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:

 A maneira mais fácil é entrar no site da Oracle, escolher o  Java e
 baixar, depois instalar.

 Em 12 de janeiro de 2014 21:52, Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.com
  escreveu:

 Instalei o java de maneira mais facil que o seu, sem pegar do repositorio
 do ubuntu.


 Em 12 de janeiro de 2014 21:52, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh 
 h...@debian.org escreveu:

 On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Vinicius wrote:
  Precisei instalar o java da Oracle, para poder rodar uma plataforma
  de desenvolvimento do Android. O site da Oracle não dá maiores
  informações, manda apenas descompactar em algum diretório, como se
  isso fosse o suficiente. Mas existem uma série de links em
  /etc/alternatives que devem ser criados/editados.

 Instale o pacote java-package da backports.  Baixe o pacote jdk,
 server-jdk
 ou jre da Oracle conforme a necessidade.  Não baixe o RPM, precisa ser o
 outro pacote, que não é RPM.

 Rode o comando make-jpkg arquivo baixado da Oracle.  Ele vai gerar um
 .deb.  Instale o .deb gerado.  Pronto.

 Maiores informações, man make-jpkg (só com o pacote java-package
 instalado).

 --
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   them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
   where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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Re: Instalando Oracle Java 7 no Debian

2014-01-13 Thread Manoel Pedro de Araújo

Para instalar o java segui os seguintes passos do site
http://www.duinsoft.nl/packages.php?t=en


   - put the line
   deb http://www.duinsoft.nl/pkg debs all
   in the file /etc/apt/sources.list, either using Software Sources from
   your System Menu or by editing the file in an editor (as root)
   or:
   put this line in a file named (e.g.) duinsoft.list in the directory
   /etc/apt/sources.list.d
   - import the gpg key with the command (all on one line)
   sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 5CB26B26
   - enter the commands (two lines)
   sudo apt-get update
   sudo apt-get install update-sun-jre
   or use Synaptic to install the package
   - installation of the Runtime Environment will follow automatically





Em 13 de janeiro de 2014 09:27, Rubens Junior rbns...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Prezados,
 nao sei se eu faco fora do padrao, mas o q eu faco eh baixar o pacote
 diretamente do site da oracle, descompactar e criar duas variaveis de
 ambiente JAVA_HOME e JRE_HOME, nunca editei/alterei nada no
 /etc/alternatives e talz, e sempre funcionou comigo.


 Em 13 de janeiro de 2014 09:17, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:

 A maneira mais fácil é entrar no site da Oracle, escolher o  Java e
 baixar, depois instalar.

 Em 12 de janeiro de 2014 21:52, Manoel Pedro de Araújo 
 mpara...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Instalei o java de maneira mais facil que o seu, sem pegar do repositorio
 do ubuntu.


 Em 12 de janeiro de 2014 21:52, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh 
 h...@debian.org escreveu:

 On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Vinicius wrote:
  Precisei instalar o java da Oracle, para poder rodar uma plataforma
  de desenvolvimento do Android. O site da Oracle não dá maiores
  informações, manda apenas descompactar em algum diretório, como se
  isso fosse o suficiente. Mas existem uma série de links em
  /etc/alternatives que devem ser criados/editados.

 Instale o pacote java-package da backports.  Baixe o pacote jdk,
 server-jdk
 ou jre da Oracle conforme a necessidade.  Não baixe o RPM, precisa ser o
 outro pacote, que não é RPM.

 Rode o comando make-jpkg arquivo baixado da Oracle.  Ele vai gerar um
 .deb.  Instale o .deb gerado.  Pronto.

 Maiores informações, man make-jpkg (só com o pacote java-package
 instalado).

 --
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   them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
   where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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Re: Instalando Oracle Java 7 no Debian

2014-01-13 Thread SDeMario


Em 12-01-2014 21:52, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh escreveu:

On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Vinicius wrote:

Precisei instalar o java da Oracle, para poder rodar uma plataforma
de desenvolvimento do Android. O site da Oracle não dá maiores
informações, manda apenas descompactar em algum diretório, como se
isso fosse o suficiente. Mas existem uma série de links em
/etc/alternatives que devem ser criados/editados.

Instale o pacote java-package da backports.  Baixe o pacote jdk, server-jdk
ou jre da Oracle conforme a necessidade.  Não baixe o RPM, precisa ser o
outro pacote, que não é RPM.

Rode o comando make-jpkg arquivo baixado da Oracle.  Ele vai gerar um
.deb.  Instale o .deb gerado.  Pronto.

Maiores informações, man make-jpkg (só com o pacote java-package
instalado).


Obrigado pela dica, Henrique, não me lembrei de pesquisar o backports.

Vou seguir este método em outra instalação que tenho aqui.

Vinicius


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Re: Instalando Oracle Java 7 no Debian

2014-01-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

On Mon, 13 Jan 2014, SDeMario wrote:
 Em 12-01-2014 21:52, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh escreveu:
 Instale o pacote java-package da backports.  Baixe o pacote jdk, server-jdk

...

 Obrigado pela dica, Henrique, não me lembrei de pesquisar o backports.
 
 Vou seguir este método em outra instalação que tenho aqui.

Tem vantagens em manter essas tralhas devidamente registradas no sistema de
pacotes (dpkg), particularmente na hora de atualizar ou remover.

Usar o java-package/make-jpkg garante isso, e mais: o pacote .deb resultante
vai integrar o java com o resto da distro, e não vai colidir, por exemplo,
com o openjdk.

Para selecionar qual java usar como padrão do sistema, use o comando
update-java-alternatives (precisa ser root):

update-java-alternatives -l
update-java-alternatives -s java desejado, ver listagem gerada pelo -l

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Instalando Oracle Java 7 no Debian

2014-01-12 Thread Vinicius


Apenas para informação, se alguém necessitar e não souber como fazer.

Precisei instalar o java da Oracle, para poder rodar uma plataforma de 
desenvolvimento do Android. O site da Oracle não dá maiores informações, 
manda apenas descompactar em algum diretório, como se isso fosse o 
suficiente. Mas existem uma série de links em /etc/alternatives que 
devem ser criados/editados.


Tentei converter o pacote rpm com alien, mas não instalou corretamente.

Localizei o link abaixo e testei com o Jessie e Wheezy, funcionou 
perfeitamente, tanto com arquitetura i386 quanto AMD64.


Basta copiar/colar em terminal e ir executando cada linha indicada, como 
root:


http://andrewelkins.com/linux/how-to-install-java-7-on-debian-oracle-sucks/


Vinicius


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Re: Instalando Oracle Java 7 no Debian

2014-01-12 Thread Manoel Pedro de Araújo

Eis a duvida, será bom instalar pacotes do ubuntu no debian?


Em 12 de janeiro de 2014 10:55, Vinicius sdmi@uol.com.br escreveu:

 Apenas para informação, se alguém necessitar e não souber como fazer.

 Precisei instalar o java da Oracle, para poder rodar uma plataforma de
 desenvolvimento do Android. O site da Oracle não dá maiores informações,
 manda apenas descompactar em algum diretório, como se isso fosse o
 suficiente. Mas existem uma série de links em /etc/alternatives que devem
 ser criados/editados.

 Tentei converter o pacote rpm com alien, mas não instalou corretamente.

 Localizei o link abaixo e testei com o Jessie e Wheezy, funcionou
 perfeitamente, tanto com arquitetura i386 quanto AMD64.

 Basta copiar/colar em terminal e ir executando cada linha indicada, como
 root:

 http://andrewelkins.com/linux/how-to-install-java-7-on-
 debian-oracle-sucks/


 Vinicius


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Re: Instalando Oracle Java 7 no Debian

2014-01-12 Thread Vinicius


Em 12-01-2014 19:08, Manoel Pedro de Araújo escreveu:

Eis a duvida, será bom instalar pacotes do ubuntu no debian?


Em 12 de janeiro de 2014 10:55, Vinicius sdmi@uol.com.br 
mailto:sdmi@uol.com.br escreveu:


Apenas para informação, se alguém necessitar e não souber como fazer.

Precisei instalar o java da Oracle, para poder rodar uma
plataforma de desenvolvimento do Android. O site da Oracle não dá
maiores informações, manda apenas descompactar em algum diretório,
como se isso fosse o suficiente. Mas existem uma série de links em
/etc/alternatives que devem ser criados/editados.

Tentei converter o pacote rpm com alien, mas não instalou
corretamente.

Localizei o link abaixo e testei com o Jessie e Wheezy, funcionou
perfeitamente, tanto com arquitetura i386 quanto AMD64.

Basta copiar/colar em terminal e ir executando cada linha
indicada, como root:

http://andrewelkins.com/linux/how-to-install-java-7-on-debian-oracle-sucks/


Vinicius


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Acredito que o melhor seria pelo menos analisar o pacote Ubuntu e 
verificar se estaria compatível com uma instalação em Debian. Já 
instalei um ou outro pacote Ubuntu e tive sucesso. Pelo menos no caso 
deste pacote parece não haver problemas. Testei inclusive com site de 
banco, que estava funcionando com o OpenJDK.


Como eu não tinha tempo p/ testar, não me arrisquei em utilizar o pacote 
OpenJDK, visto que existia o aviso explícito que não funcionaria com 
este pacote, então parti direto para o java Oracle.


Vinicius

Re: Instalando Oracle Java 7 no Debian

2014-01-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Vinicius wrote:
 Precisei instalar o java da Oracle, para poder rodar uma plataforma
 de desenvolvimento do Android. O site da Oracle não dá maiores
 informações, manda apenas descompactar em algum diretório, como se
 isso fosse o suficiente. Mas existem uma série de links em
 /etc/alternatives que devem ser criados/editados.

Instale o pacote java-package da backports.  Baixe o pacote jdk, server-jdk
ou jre da Oracle conforme a necessidade.  Não baixe o RPM, precisa ser o
outro pacote, que não é RPM.

Rode o comando make-jpkg arquivo baixado da Oracle.  Ele vai gerar um
.deb.  Instale o .deb gerado.  Pronto.

Maiores informações, man make-jpkg (só com o pacote java-package
instalado).

-- 
  One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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Re: Instalando Oracle Java 7 no Debian

2014-01-12 Thread Manoel Pedro de Araújo

Instalei o java de maneira mais facil que o seu, sem pegar do repositorio
do ubuntu.


Em 12 de janeiro de 2014 21:52, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
h...@debian.orgescreveu:

 On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Vinicius wrote:
  Precisei instalar o java da Oracle, para poder rodar uma plataforma
  de desenvolvimento do Android. O site da Oracle não dá maiores
  informações, manda apenas descompactar em algum diretório, como se
  isso fosse o suficiente. Mas existem uma série de links em
  /etc/alternatives que devem ser criados/editados.

 Instale o pacote java-package da backports.  Baixe o pacote jdk, server-jdk
 ou jre da Oracle conforme a necessidade.  Não baixe o RPM, precisa ser o
 outro pacote, que não é RPM.

 Rode o comando make-jpkg arquivo baixado da Oracle.  Ele vai gerar um
 .deb.  Instale o .deb gerado.  Pronto.

 Maiores informações, man make-jpkg (só com o pacote java-package
 instalado).

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Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle

2013-05-02 Thread Camaleón

El Wed, 01 May 2013 23:05:37 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:

 El 01/05/13 22:31, Camaleón escribió:
 
 En tu caso, pues creo que deberías buscar la forma de saltarte ese
 error que te aparece con Java 7 o sencillamente mantener la versión 6
 de java configurándolo para restringir la carga del applet sólo para el
 dominio que selecciones (no sé si esto será posible) y que se desactive
 (o que pregunte si quieres ejecutar el componente) para el resto de los
 dominios, así al menos estarás un pelín más seguro.


 Si que me pregunta. Te adjunto la pantalla que sale (y acepto). Después
 se carga la aplicación.

La imagen se ve malamente pero se puede leer que la ventanita te aparece 
porque la firma digital tiene un error.

Lo que sí puedes hacer (digo, en el caso de que tengas que usar la 
versión 6) es configurar Java para que te pregunte SIEMPRE si quieres 
ejecutar alguna aplicación o clase desde el navegador, independientemente 
del dominio. 

Lo ideal sería poder seleccionar los dominios a los que quieres meter en 
una lista blanca (una zona separada para relajar las restricciones de 
Java) y para el resto de sitios utilizar una configuración más segura que 
impida la carga de los applets, pero esto es lo que no sé si es posible 
(acabo de acceder a la configuración de java en un equipo que tengo con 
windows y no he visto la forma de hacer esto último).

 Será por la configuración por defecto de iceweasel, por lo que supongo
 que me saldrán igual en otras Webs que quieran ejecutar algo...

Será porque el certificado no lo reconoce como válido... Olvídate del 
navegador, no pinta nada aquí :-). El navegador sólo tiene que encargarse 
de saber si Java está habilitado o no y en caso de tenerlo activado, 
cargar el JRE, nada más.

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Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle

2013-05-02 Thread Eduardo Rios


El 02/05/13 15:06, Camaleón escribió:


La imagen se ve malamente pero se puede leer que la ventanita te aparece
porque la firma digital tiene un error.


La primera imagen que puse si se ve mal, pero la segunda que puse 
después, deberías verla bien ;)


No obstante da igual. Estaba equivocado. Creía que si me preguntaba si 
quería ejecutar el applet, pero después me di cuenta que era otra cosa :)




Lo que sí puedes hacer (digo, en el caso de que tengas que usar la
versión 6) es configurar Java para que te pregunte SIEMPRE si quieres
ejecutar alguna aplicación o clase desde el navegador, independientemente
del dominio.

Lo ideal sería poder seleccionar los dominios a los que quieres meter en
una lista blanca (una zona separada para relajar las restricciones de
Java) y para el resto de sitios utilizar una configuración más segura que
impida la carga de los applets, pero esto es lo que no sé si es posible
(acabo de acceder a la configuración de java en un equipo que tengo con
windows y no he visto la forma de hacer esto último).


Será por la configuración por defecto de iceweasel, por lo que supongo
que me saldrán igual en otras Webs que quieran ejecutar algo...


Será porque el certificado no lo reconoce como válido... Olvídate del
navegador, no pinta nada aquí :-). El navegador sólo tiene que encargarse
de saber si Java está habilitado o no y en caso de tenerlo activado,
cargar el JRE, nada más.

Saludos,



Nada, he optado por desinstalar java. Como es mi equipo personal, no 
quiero arriesgarme a que me entren hasta en la cocina. ;)
Trabajaré lo que pueda en el trabajo, y lo que no me de tiempo, al dia 
siguiente.



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Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle

2013-05-02 Thread Eduardo Rios


El 02/05/13 18:57, Eduardo Rios escribió:


Nada, he optado por desinstalar java. Como es mi equipo personal, no
quiero arriesgarme a que me entren hasta en la cocina. ;)
Trabajaré lo que pueda en el trabajo, y lo que no me de tiempo, al dia
siguiente.


Además, era empeño de comprobar si podía hacerlo funcionar en linux, y 
lo conseguí :-P



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Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle

2013-05-02 Thread Camaleón

El Thu, 02 May 2013 19:01:42 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:

 El 02/05/13 18:57, Eduardo Rios escribió:
 
 Nada, he optado por desinstalar java. Como es mi equipo personal, no
 quiero arriesgarme a que me entren hasta en la cocina. ;) Trabajaré lo
 que pueda en el trabajo, y lo que no me de tiempo, al dia siguiente.

Güeno... si no lo necesitas, pues mejor la verdad. Todos los días recibo 
notificaciones de problemas relacionados con la seguridad en el JRE de 
Oracle, de hecho hoy he recibido varios, p. ej.:

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/57692

 Además, era empeño de comprobar si podía hacerlo funcionar en linux, y
 lo conseguí :-P

En este caso me parece que el problema gordo no lo tienes con Linux sino 
con la versión de la JRE que tienes y que quien se que haya programado la 
aplicación que quieres usar te fuerza a mantener. En definitiva, IMO: un 
bug humano :-)

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[OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle

Veréis, en la empresa donde trabajo, usando la Intranet, accedo a unas 
aplicaciones de Oracle As Form Services. Allí utilizo Windows XP y Java 
6 update 30 (y ya sé que está obsoleta y plagada de bugs, pero como 
actualicemos la versión, deja de funcionar)


En casa, con OpenJDK 6 y Debian, me funciona, pero va my lento 
para cualquier operación.


Si instalo Java 6 update 45 de Oracle, me funciona perfectamente la 
aplicación en Debian.


Si instalo Java 7 update 21 de Oracle (u OpenJDK 7), no me funciona, 
dándome este error al ejecutar la aplicación:


FRM-92095: Versión de JInitiator demasiado baja. Instale la versión 
1.1.8.2 o superior


El empeño en usar Java 7 de Oracle es por la seguridad del sistema. Para 
la versión 6 de java ya no van a sacar actualizaciones de seguridad, y 
OpenJDK no puedo usarlo por lo desesperadamente lento e incómodo que se 
hace trabajar.


¿Se os ocurre como podría engañar al navegador (Iceweasel 20.0) para que 
crea que estoy usando Java 6.45, teniendo la última versión de la 7?


Ya he probado a hacer los cambios oportunos en pluginreg.dat pero no cuela.

Gracias.


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Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle

2013-05-01 Thread Camaleón

El Wed, 01 May 2013 20:37:00 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:

 Veréis, en la empresa donde trabajo, usando la Intranet, accedo a unas
 aplicaciones de Oracle As Form Services. Allí utilizo Windows XP y Java
 6 update 30 (y ya sé que está obsoleta y plagada de bugs, pero como
 actualicemos la versión, deja de funcionar)

Hum... ¿y por qué no investigáis el hecho de que esa aplicación web -que 
es de Oracle, para más inri- tenga problemas con la versión actualizada 
de Java? 

Sinceramente, NADIE (en ninguna plataforma) debería usar en el navegador 
una versión de Java que no esté actualizada al máximo porque la cadena de 
fallos que se han descubierto en su JRE es más que notable :-/

 En casa, con OpenJDK 6 y Debian, me funciona, pero va my lento
 para cualquier operación.
 
 Si instalo Java 6 update 45 de Oracle, me funciona perfectamente la
 aplicación en Debian.
 
 Si instalo Java 7 update 21 de Oracle (u OpenJDK 7), no me funciona,
 dándome este error al ejecutar la aplicación:
 
 FRM-92095: Versión de JInitiator demasiado baja. Instale la versión
 1.1.8.2 o superior

¿Y por qué no le haces caso a lo que te dice? Investiga qué es ese 
JInitiator, mira a ver qué versión tienes y qué podrías hacer para 
solucionarlo.

A ver qué dice Google (palabra clave: Versión de JInitiator demasiado 
baja.)

http://bit.ly/130EIE9

 El empeño en usar Java 7 de Oracle es por la seguridad del sistema. Para
 la versión 6 de java ya no van a sacar actualizaciones de seguridad, y
 OpenJDK no puedo usarlo por lo desesperadamente lento e incómodo que se
 hace trabajar.

Tienes razón, no es seguro usar la versión 6 y menos aún tenerla activada 
en el navegador.

 ¿Se os ocurre como podría engañar al navegador (Iceweasel 20.0) para que
 crea que estoy usando Java 6.45, teniendo la última versión de la 7?

(...)

¿Mande? :-? ¿Y con eso qué conseguirías? Me parece que el error no está 
en cómo detecta el navegador la versión de Java que tienes instalada sino 
en la propia aplicación que carga el JRE desde el navegador y que falla 
con una versión de Java/OpenJDK determinada.

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Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle


El 01/05/13 21:30, Camaleón escribió:


Hum... ¿y por qué no investigáis el hecho de que esa aplicación web -que
es de Oracle, para más inri- tenga problemas con la versión actualizada
de Java?


Porque nosotros somos simplemente usuarios de esa aplicación porque así 
nos lo exige la empresa, pero la central (y la que gestiona esa app y 
los servicios) está en Madrid.


Además, el problema lo tengo yo en mi casa, porque quiero estar 
actualizado. ¿Qué crees que me dirían si les comento algo? Me mandarían 
lejos :-P




Sinceramente, NADIE (en ninguna plataforma) debería usar en el navegador
una versión de Java que no esté actualizada al máximo porque la cadena de
fallos que se han descubierto en su JRE es más que notable :-/


Estoy de acuerdo contigo, pero si los informáticos de la empresa no 
hacen los cambios pertinentes... nosotros no podemos hacer nada :(





En casa, con OpenJDK 6 y Debian, me funciona, pero va my lento
para cualquier operación.

Si instalo Java 6 update 45 de Oracle, me funciona perfectamente la
aplicación en Debian.

Si instalo Java 7 update 21 de Oracle (u OpenJDK 7), no me funciona,
dándome este error al ejecutar la aplicación:

FRM-92095: Versión de JInitiator demasiado baja. Instale la versión
1.1.8.2 o superior


¿Y por qué no le haces caso a lo que te dice? Investiga qué es ese
JInitiator, mira a ver qué versión tienes y qué podrías hacer para
solucionarlo.


Mmmm... JInitiator es una aplicación para Windows (no sé que función 
cumple exactamente. Pero volvemos a lo mismo. Yo no puedo cambiarla.





¿Se os ocurre como podría engañar al navegador (Iceweasel 20.0) para que
crea que estoy usando Java 6.45, teniendo la última versión de la 7?


(...)

¿Mande? :-? ¿Y con eso qué conseguirías? Me parece que el error no está
en cómo detecta el navegador la versión de Java que tienes instalada sino
en la propia aplicación que carga el JRE desde el navegador y que falla
con una versión de Java/OpenJDK determinada.

Saludos,



Pues entonces... me temo que la solución va a ser el no trabajar desde 
casa si quiero estar seguro. :-P y desinstalar por completo Java 6 :)



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Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle

2013-05-01 Thread Camaleón


On 01/05/2013 22:14, Eduardo Rios wrote:

El 01/05/13 21:30, Camaleón escribió:


Hum... ¿y por qué no investigáis el hecho de que esa aplicación web -que
es de Oracle, para más inri- tenga problemas con la versión actualizada
de Java?


Porque nosotros somos simplemente usuarios de esa aplicación porque así
nos lo exige la empresa, pero la central (y la que gestiona esa app y
los servicios) está en Madrid.

Además, el problema lo tengo yo en mi casa, porque quiero estar
actualizado. ¿Qué crees que me dirían si les comento algo? Me mandarían
lejos :-P


Pues no dejes de comertarlo en la empresa, es importante (y es 
importante para ellos, no para ti, a ti te da igual que se les llene los 
equipos de bichos, spyware, rootkits, etc...). No sé qué canales de 
comunicación tenéis con el departamento de informática pero yo no 
dejaría de hacerlo. Y no se trata de ser pesado ni cansino sino de 
exploner el problema, sin más.



Sinceramente, NADIE (en ninguna plataforma) debería usar en el navegador
una versión de Java que no esté actualizada al máximo porque la cadena de
fallos que se han descubierto en su JRE es más que notable :-/


Estoy de acuerdo contigo, pero si los informáticos de la empresa no
hacen los cambios pertinentes... nosotros no podemos hacer nada :(


Lo que puedes hacer es ponerlo en conocimiento de quienes deban hacer 
los cambios. El resultado no depende de ti pero al menos habrás cumplido :-)



Si instalo Java 7 update 21 de Oracle (u OpenJDK 7), no me funciona,
dándome este error al ejecutar la aplicación:

FRM-92095: Versión de JInitiator demasiado baja. Instale la versión
1.1.8.2 o superior


¿Y por qué no le haces caso a lo que te dice? Investiga qué es ese
JInitiator, mira a ver qué versión tienes y qué podrías hacer para
solucionarlo.


Mmmm... JInitiator es una aplicación para Windows (no sé que función
cumple exactamente. Pero volvemos a lo mismo. Yo no puedo cambiarla.


Pues entonces mal asunto, ya que todo apunta a que la aplicación a la 
que intentas acceder no detecta correctamente qué es lo que tiene que 
cargar, que en el caso de Linux entiendo que sería la JRE directamente 
en lugar del JInitiator ese.



¿Se os ocurre como podría engañar al navegador (Iceweasel 20.0) para que
crea que estoy usando Java 6.45, teniendo la última versión de la 7?


(...)

¿Mande? :-? ¿Y con eso qué conseguirías? Me parece que el error no está
en cómo detecta el navegador la versión de Java que tienes instalada sino
en la propia aplicación que carga el JRE desde el navegador y que falla
con una versión de Java/OpenJDK determinada.

Saludos,



Pues entonces... me temo que la solución va a ser el no trabajar desde
casa si quiero estar seguro. :-P y desinstalar por completo Java 6 :)


Yo he desactivado (que no desinstalado) Java por completo en todos los 
navegadores (con windows y linux), porque sencillamente ya no me fío... 
y no necesito java en el navegador, claro.


En tu caso, pues creo que deberías buscar la forma de saltarte ese error 
que te aparece con Java 7 o sencillamente mantener la versión 6 de java 
configurándolo para restringir la carga del applet sólo para el dominio 
que selecciones (no sé si esto será posible) y que se desactive (o que 
pregunte si quieres ejecutar el componente) para el resto de los 
dominios, así al menos estarás un pelín más seguro.


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Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle


El 01/05/13 22:31, Camaleón escribió:


En tu caso, pues creo que deberías buscar la forma de saltarte ese error
que te aparece con Java 7 o sencillamente mantener la versión 6 de java
configurándolo para restringir la carga del applet sólo para el dominio
que selecciones (no sé si esto será posible) y que se desactive (o que
pregunte si quieres ejecutar el componente) para el resto de los
dominios, así al menos estarás un pelín más seguro.

Saludos,



Si que me pregunta. Te adjunto la pantalla que sale (y acepto). Después 
se carga la aplicación.


Será por la configuración por defecto de iceweasel, por lo que supongo 
que me saldrán igual en otras Webs que quieran ejecutar algo...



attachment: pantalla1.png

Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle


Imagen corregida. Mal capturada
attachment: pantalla1.png

Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle

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El 01/05/13 23:12, Eduardo Rios escribió:
 Imagen corregida. Mal capturada

Hombre. Eso no significa nada. Cruzroja.es te está pidiendo que confirmes
que ejecutes la aplicación del sitio y, por lo tanto, también, que si
quieres, puedes confiar siempre en el contenido del sitio para no volver a
mostrar ese diálogo.

No veo ningún problema. En mi caso, que tengo JRE 1.7.21, no tengo pegas
para nada en los sitios que visito y trabajo.

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Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle


El 01/05/13 23:16, Santiago José López Borrazás escribió:



Hombre. Eso no significa nada. Cruzroja.es te está pidiendo que confirmes
que ejecutes la aplicación del sitio y, por lo tanto, también, que si
quieres, puedes confiar siempre en el contenido del sitio para no volver a
mostrar ese diálogo.

No veo ningún problema. En mi caso, que tengo JRE 1.7.21, no tengo pegas
para nada en los sitios que visito y trabajo.


Pues me parece estupendo que no tengas problemas, pero yo te aseguro que 
con java 1.7.21 a mi no me carga :)


Con 1.6.45, sin problemas.


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Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle

Por cierto. Es verdad, con Java 1.6.45 no pregunta si quiero ejecutar el 
applet. Me lo hace con la 7, pero justo es la que da el fallo de 
JInitiator :-P


Me parece que le van a dar morcillas al Java :-(


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Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle

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El 01/05/13 23:20, Eduardo Rios escribió:
 Pues me parece estupendo que no tengas problemas, pero yo te aseguro
 que con java 1.7.21 a mi no me carga :)

A mí sí, porque has de tener dos ficheros simbólicos, porque sino, no te
va a funcionar:

En Mozilla, debes tener estos dos enlaces simbólicos como te muestro:

lrwxrwxrwx 1 sjlopezb sjlopezb   58 abr 18 23:01 libjavaplugin_oji.so
- - /usr/java/jre1.7.0_21/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 sjlopezb sjlopezb   42 abr 18 23:01 libnpjp2.so -
/usr/java/jre1.7.0_21/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so

A pesar de tener el java en /usr/java creado por mí a través de root (o
súperusuario).

 Con 1.6.45, sin problemas.

A mí también, pero directamente sólo con el fichero libjavaplugin_oji.so,
pero te falta el libnpjp2.so, que ya lleva el 1.7 para arriba... ;-)))

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Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle

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El 01/05/13 23:25, Eduardo Rios escribió:
 Por cierto. Es verdad, con Java 1.6.45 no pregunta si quiero ejecutar
 el applet. Me lo hace con la 7, pero justo es la que da el fallo de
 JInitiator :-P
 
 Me parece que le van a dar morcillas al Java :-(

¡No desesperes por tu solución! Yo la tengo. Es más, a mí me funciona y,
por mucho que me lo pida, al dar a ese parámetro me funciona
estupendamente bien. ;-)

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Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle


El 01/05/13 23:29, Santiago José López Borrazás escribió:


A mí sí, porque has de tener dos ficheros simbólicos, porque sino, no te
va a funcionar:

En Mozilla, debes tener estos dos enlaces simbólicos como te muestro:

lrwxrwxrwx 1 sjlopezb sjlopezb   58 abr 18 23:01 libjavaplugin_oji.so
- - /usr/java/jre1.7.0_21/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 sjlopezb sjlopezb   42 abr 18 23:01 libnpjp2.so -
/usr/java/jre1.7.0_21/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so


Pero si es que el problema no está en que no funcione Java 7. Está 
correctamente instalado y configurado (aparece cuando pongo 
'about:plugins' en el navegador :)


El problema lo tiene el applet de mi empresa :-P


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Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle

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El 01/05/13 23:39, Eduardo Rios escribió:
 Pero si es que el problema no está en que no funcione Java 7. Está 
 correctamente instalado y configurado (aparece cuando pongo
 'about:plugins' en el navegador :)
 
 El problema lo tiene el applet de mi empresa :-P

¡Coño, haberlo dicho antes! ;- Entonces, tu empresa debe
_CORRECTAMENTE_ tenerlo bien instalado...o al menos, poner el applet bien,
para que te funcione.

:-þþþ

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Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle


El 01/05/13 23:49, Santiago José López Borrazás escribió:



El problema lo tiene el applet de mi empresa :-P


¡Coño, haberlo dicho antes!


¿Antes? ¡Si lo he dicho desde el primer hilo! :-P

He dicho que me da error, no que no funcionara Java 7 ;)


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Re: [OT] Error usando Java 7 SE de Oracle