Re: Netscape Navigator 9.01b

2007-06-06 Thread Andrew J. Barr
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Manon Metten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Netscape navigator 9.01b for GNU/Linux is available for download here:
 
 http://browser.netscape.com/
 
 Greetings, Manon.

Why are they still doing that in the age of Firefox?

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Re: Netscape Navigator 9.01b

2007-06-06 Thread Manon Metten

Hi Andrew,

On 6/6/07, Andrew J. Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why are they still doing that in the age of Firefox?



The newspaper where I've read this, states that Netscape is build upon
Firefox, so maybe it has some extra features. Further it's closely
integrated with AOL's netscape.com website. So it might be a commercial
thing. I don't know yet, I still have to figure out.

Anyway: Revival of the pre IE days and beginning of the decline of the M$
empire?! That's a good thing :-)

Manon.


Re: netscape

2004-11-09 Thread coin
He buscado y nunca he encontrado que Netscape este en algun
repositorio, pues me imagino que como no cumple con GNU, Debian no los
pone en los repositorios.
Hay muchos más y buenos, esta el firefox, esta galeon, esta konqueroro
que es de KDE, esta Opera, esta epiphany, etc.


On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 00:19:03 +0100, Antonio M Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hola estoy intentando hacer funcionar netscape-navigator pero me da este
 error
  /usr/lib/netscape/netscape-navigator: error while loading shared libraries:
 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
 directory
  
  la cosa es que esas librerias las he instalado pero sigue igual, alguien
 sabe algun repositorio para bajar netscape? sabes de otros navegadores que
 no sean el mozilla? 


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Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-26 Thread J F

For some unknown reason, everything works now.
Netscape prints.
Konqueror prints.
lp book.ps
lpq
lprm
lp book2.pdf

All working!
I selected lazerjet4 driver.
I know it didn't used to work.
Seems rebooting the computer might possibly
have something to do with fixing it???
CUPS and setting up printers via
the K-menu works great.

Thanks to all,
J



 --- On Mon 07/26, J F  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
From: J F [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 00:15:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a 
postscript printer

brThis is the most informative thing I have found so 
far:brhttp://www.linuxprinting.org/kpfeifle/LinuxKongress2002/Tutorial/V.CUPS-Filtering-Architecture/V.CUPS-Workshop-LinuxKongress2002-Content.htmlbrbrHe
 sort of implies CUPS has a (I inferred built-in)brfilter to rasterize 
postscript:br4.3. The pstoraster-filterbrNext call is for pstoraster. This one is 
at the core of the CUPS RIP. Currently it is still derived off Ghostscript version 
5.50. This sounds (and is) quite old, but the CUPS developers have applied many 
modifications and patches of their own to it an, so that the consecuting raster 
drivers in the chain still are able to drive many inkjet printers to true photo 
quality output. brbrI'll read up on gs-esp and cupsys-driver-gimpprint package 
brin the morning. brThanks,brJbrbr --- On Sun 07/25, csj  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:brFrom: csj [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]brTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]brDate: 
Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:15:15 +0800brSubj
 ect: Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a 
postscript printerbrbrOn 25. July 2004 at 3:11PM -0400,brJ F [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:brbr I found some documentation at:br 
http://www.cups.org/documentation.php It seems cups can printbr postscript, even if 
your personal printer can't, but there arebr not examples of how to set it 
up.brbrThe Debian cups packages should do the setup for you.  Cups isbrmore like 
the mailman.  The actual business of postscriptbrprinting is handled by ghostscript. 
 The Debian cups packages usebrgs-esp as backend.  The cupsys-driver-gimpprint 
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Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-26 Thread csj
On 26. July 2004 at 2:32PM -0400,
J F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For some unknown reason, everything works now.  Netscape
 prints.  Konqueror prints.

 lp book.ps
 lpq
 lprm
 lp book2.pdf
 
 All working!  I selected lazerjet4 driver.  I know it didn't
 used to work.  Seems rebooting the computer might possibly have
 something to do with fixing it???  CUPS and setting up printers
 via the K-menu works great.

I suspect that's because rebooting restarted CUPS.  There are
of course less drastic ways to restart CUPS like
/etc/init.d/cupsys restart (you have to be root).


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Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-25 Thread J F

I found some documentation at:
http://www.cups.org/documentation.php
It seems cups can print postscript, even if
your personal printer can't, but there
are not examples of how to set it up.

Still haven't gotten netscape to print, but
got Konqueror to quit chopping off the top, sides,
and bottom
quarter inch of the page I'm printing:


diff /etc/cups/ppd/*
106c106
 *ImageableArea Letter/US Letter: 25 25 587 767
---
 *ImageableArea Letter/US Letter: 0 0 612 792
118c118
 *ImageableArea Legal/US Legal: 25 25 587 983
---
 *ImageableArea Legal/US Legal: 0 0 612 1008




 

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Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-25 Thread csj
On 25. July 2004 at 3:11PM -0400,
J F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I found some documentation at:
 http://www.cups.org/documentation.php It seems cups can print
 postscript, even if your personal printer can't, but there are
 not examples of how to set it up.

The Debian cups packages should do the setup for you.  Cups is
more like the mailman.  The actual business of postscript
printing is handled by ghostscript.  The Debian cups packages use
gs-esp as backend.  The cupsys-driver-gimpprint package provides
support for additional printers.


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Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-25 Thread J F

This is the most informative thing I have found so far:
http://www.linuxprinting.org/kpfeifle/LinuxKongress2002/Tutorial/V.CUPS-Filtering-Architecture/V.CUPS-Workshop-LinuxKongress2002-Content.html

He sort of implies CUPS has a (I inferred built-in)
filter to rasterize postscript:
4.3. The pstoraster-filter
Next call is for pstoraster. This one is at the core of the CUPS RIP. Currently it is 
still derived off Ghostscript version 5.50. This sounds (and is) quite old, but the 
CUPS developers have applied many modifications and patches of their own to it an, so 
that the consecuting raster drivers in the chain still are able to drive many inkjet 
printers to true photo quality output. 

I'll read up on gs-esp and cupsys-driver-gimpprint package 
in the morning. 
Thanks,
J

 --- On Sun 07/25, csj  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
From: csj [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:15:15 +0800
Subject: Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a 
postscript printer

On 25. July 2004 at 3:11PM -0400,brJ F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:brbr I found 
some documentation at:br http://www.cups.org/documentation.php It seems cups can 
printbr postscript, even if your personal printer can't, but there arebr not 
examples of how to set it up.brbrThe Debian cups packages should do the setup for 
you.  Cups isbrmore like the mailman.  The actual business of postscriptbrprinting 
is handled by ghostscript.  The Debian cups packages usebrgs-esp as backend.  The 
cupsys-driver-gimpprint package providesbrsupport for additional 
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Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-24 Thread J F

Konqueror prints fine, but netscape
prints in postscript and I see just
the text which composes the postscript
being printed, not the rasterized image.
I did find some documentation:

http://www.cups.org/documentation.php

Also found a tutorial.
I'll post if I figure it out.
Thanks.


 --- On Fri 07/23, Eric Brown  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
From: Eric Brown [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:31:52 -0700
Subject: Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a 
postscript printer

br- Original Message - brFrom: J F [EMAIL PROTECTED]brTo: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]brSent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 1:12 PMbrSubject: Netscape seems to 
default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don'tbrhave a postscript 
printerbrbrbrbr Printing from Netscape seems to default tobr 
Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer.brbr Is there a 
way to set up 2 print spools?br One called hpprinter and one called 
hpprinter-P?br Both would be the same except hpprinter-P wouldbr go thru a 
postscript to raster converter tobr emulate postscript?brbr I have been 
playing around with cups and kde printer,br but I am still lost in the 
jungle.brbr Or can Netscape be configured to not outputbr 
postscript?brbr Thanks in advance,br JbrbrWhat little I know about Linux 
printing:brbrAll Linux programs speak postscript for printing.  The printing 
system youbruse will use a filter to conv
 ert postscript into the language used by yourbrprinter.  You may need to install 
the filter package and then set up thebrprinter in CUPS or LPR or what 
ever.brbrYou can apt-get the gimp-print package which provides photo quality 
filtersbrfor many printers.brbrThen use printmgr (root access required) to 
install your printer.brbrEricbrbrbr-- br
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Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-23 Thread Eric Brown

- Original Message - 
From: J F [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 1:12 PM
Subject: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't
have a postscript printer



 Printing from Netscape seems to default to
 Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer.

 Is there a way to set up 2 print spools?
 One called hpprinter and one called hpprinter-P?
 Both would be the same except hpprinter-P would
 go thru a postscript to raster converter to
 emulate postscript?

 I have been playing around with cups and kde printer,
 but I am still lost in the jungle.

 Or can Netscape be configured to not output
 postscript?

 Thanks in advance,
 J

What little I know about Linux printing:

All Linux programs speak postscript for printing.  The printing system you
use will use a filter to convert postscript into the language used by your
printer.  You may need to install the filter package and then set up the
printer in CUPS or LPR or what ever.

You can apt-get the gimp-print package which provides photo quality filters
for many printers.

Then use printmgr (root access required) to install your printer.

Eric


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Re: Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer

2004-07-23 Thread csj
On 22. July 2004 at 4:12PM -0400,
J F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Printing from Netscape seems to default to Postscript(tm of
 Adobe), but I don't have a postscript printer.

But there are free software postscript emulators that will let
you print as though you have a postscript printer, e.g. gs-gpl or
gs-esp.  Maybe that's why Netscape (on GNU/Linux) defaults to a
postscript printer.


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Re: Netscape

2004-04-18 Thread Aurel
I'm afraid you're not on the right mailing list,Sharon.
Windows is really too complex us, I'm sorry
A.

smith8597 wrote:

How do I know which version of Netscape Instant Messenger to use? I 
operate two computers. Windows xp, and windows 
95.  Sharon 
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Re: Netscape

2004-04-18 Thread Katipo
Aurel wrote:

I'm afraid you're not on the right mailing list,Sharon.
Windows is really too complex us, I'm sorry
A.

smith8597 wrote:

How do I know which version of Netscape Instant Messenger to use? I 
operate two computers. Windows xp, and windows 
95.  Sharon Smith

Hello Sharon,

I'm afraid not a lot is happening with Netscape these days.
What you could do is go here:-
http://www.mozilla.org/

and order the Mozilla 1.6 C.D., which will have the programme you want.
It will be the same thing, as Netscape was built on the programme that 
Mozilla provided.
There is a windows version which will work with both versions that you 
have installed.
After you have tried it, come back and tell us what you think about it,
and we'll give you some other ideas for open source software you will 
like to try.
Regards,

David.

  






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Re: Netscape segmentation fault

2004-02-29 Thread Jacob Anawalt
Marie Regine SAPIR wrote:
Hello,

My bank is driving me crazy... I can't get their online banking
 system with any of the browsers I regularly use (galeon, opera,
 mozilla). They absolutely want Netscape 4.7 (or IE, but that's
 not really an option).

What bank is this? What's the url? Have you complained to them, telling 
them that you would like support for Opera and Mozilla or a new bank?

Have you tried 'faking it'? There was a thread not too long ago where 
someone mentioned that you can set the browser tag in Opera so it looks 
like NS4. The two ways I can think of off of the top of my head for 
identifying a browser are looking at the browser tag or running 
javascript to check for some functions. Maybe there is a need for 
Mozilla to have a 'pretend I'm NS4' mode.

snip

 However, after uninstalling, there's
still lot's of stuff left: the whole directory /usr/lib/netscape/
(pointed to by /usr/bin/X11/netscape - /etc/alternatives/netscape
- /usr/lib/netscape/477/communicator/communicator-smotif) is still there...
$ su
Password: 
# dpkg -P netscape netscape-smotif-477 communicator
dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove netscape which isn't installed.
dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove netscape-smotif-477 which isn't installed.
dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove communicator which isn't installed.
How about purging communicator-smotif as well since that is what your 
alternatives is pointing too for 'netscape'.

snip

Can someone tell me how I go about reparing Netscape?

Sorry. I don't know if I can help you with that directly. I can give you 
some pointers on the package management though.

Try dselect or even better aptitude. Use their search features to find 
all the installed netscape and communicator packages installed and purge 
them all. Then re-install.

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Re: Netscape 4.7x, unstable and XFree4.3

2004-02-28 Thread Greg Madden
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On Friday 27 February 2004 04:29 am, Andreas Bach Aaen wrote:
 Hi,

 I have sucessfully used Netscape Navigator 4.7x from stable in my
 othervise unstable installation. After upgrading unstable to XFree4.3
 it removed netscape as it couldn't provide the needed dependancies.
 Is there any way to solve this?

 I need this old outdated version of Netscape, as my homebanking
 requires it.

 When It try to install navigator I get:
 ---
 apt-get install navigator
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
 requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
 distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
 or been moved out of Incoming.

 Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely
 that
 the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
 that package should be filed.
 The following information may help to resolve the situation:

 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   navigator: Depends: navigator-smotif-477 but it is not going to be
 installed
  Depends: netscape-base-4 but it is not going to be
 installed
 E: Broken packages
 ---

 Regards,

Are you sure Konqueror 3.1.5 or the current version of Mozilla do not 
work ? My banks site became workable with Konq 3.1.2 and works with 
modern versions of Mozilla. My bank is an IE preffered web site (:
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Re: Netscape 4.7x, unstable and XFree4.3

2004-02-28 Thread Doug Holland
On Friday 27 February 2004 11:49 am, Vineet Kumar wrote:
 * Andreas Bach Aaen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040227 05:32]:
  I need this old outdated version of Netscape, as my homebanking
  requires it.

 Hi Andreas,

 Sorry, this is another post which does not answer your question.

 But IMO, this is as good a reason as any to switch banks.  I've done
 this in the past for specifically this reason.  I can't stand a bank
 claiming that they provide Internet Banking only to find out later
 that (for no good reason) they do browser checks or other broken
 javascript crap which prevents it from running properly.  I'd never use
 a bank whose branches featured drive-up tellers that only served SUVs.
 This is the same thing.  I see this as an opportunity to let the bank
 know that their broken technology is actively driving their customers
 away to their competitors.  Tell them you'll bring your money back if
 they'll give you a call when they've fixed it.

 If you don't follow my thinking purely on philosophical grounds,
 extrapolate their incompetence at putting together a simple web
 application to the security of your money elsewhere in the bank's
 various other systems, and switch for your own safety.

True.  Any web site that requires such an outdated web browser as Netscape 4.x 
is broken, as far as I'm concerned.  Banks are notoriously conservative when 
it comes to computing, but it can't be THAT hard to keep a web site updated.

Alternatively, The Mozilla based browsers (Mozilla, Firefox, Galeon, etc.) as 
well as Konqueror and Opera can be set to lie in their User-Agent strings, 
which should get you past your bank's lame browser checks.


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Re: Netscape 4.7x, unstable and XFree4.3

2004-02-27 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 14:29, Andreas Bach Aaen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have sucessfully used Netscape Navigator 4.7x from stable in my 
 othervise unstable installation. After upgrading unstable to XFree4.3 
 it removed netscape as it couldn't provide the needed dependancies. 
 Is there any way to solve this?
 
 I need this old outdated version of Netscape, as my homebanking 
 requires it.
 
 When It try to install navigator I get:
 ---
 apt-get install navigator
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
 requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
 distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
 or been moved out of Incoming.
 
 Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely 
 that
 the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
 that package should be filed.
 The following information may help to resolve the situation:
 
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   navigator: Depends: navigator-smotif-477 but it is not going to be 
 installed
  Depends: netscape-base-4 but it is not going to be 
 installed
 E: Broken packages

   [ ... ]

I'm on unstable, powerpc:

$ apt-cache policy navigator-smotif-477
W: Unable to locate package navigator-smotif-477
$ apt-cache policy netscape-base-4 
netscape-base-4:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version Table:

So I'd try to get set up

/etc/apt/sources.list

for stable, too, but without removing the lines for the unstable
versions, and then do something along the line 

# apt-get --simulate install -t stable netscape-package

and look what apt-get says ...

HTH

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Re: Netscape 4.7x, unstable and XFree4.3

2004-02-27 Thread CW Harris
On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 02:29:02PM +0100, Andreas Bach Aaen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have sucessfully used Netscape Navigator 4.7x from stable in my 
 othervise unstable installation. After upgrading unstable to XFree4.3 
 it removed netscape as it couldn't provide the needed dependancies. 
 Is there any way to solve this?
 
 I need this old outdated version of Netscape, as my homebanking 
 requires it.

Really?  No others work?  One other possibility might be Opera (it can
be set up to identify itself as mozilla 4.78, although the identity
doesn't always guarantee it will work exactly the same.)  I haven't yet
tried it with XFree4.3 either.

Sorry, that really doesn't answer your question, I know.

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Re: Netscape 4.7x, unstable and XFree4.3

2004-02-27 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Andreas Bach Aaen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040227 05:32]:
 I need this old outdated version of Netscape, as my homebanking 
 requires it.

Hi Andreas,

Sorry, this is another post which does not answer your question.

But IMO, this is as good a reason as any to switch banks.  I've done
this in the past for specifically this reason.  I can't stand a bank
claiming that they provide Internet Banking only to find out later
that (for no good reason) they do browser checks or other broken
javascript crap which prevents it from running properly.  I'd never use
a bank whose branches featured drive-up tellers that only served SUVs.
This is the same thing.  I see this as an opportunity to let the bank
know that their broken technology is actively driving their customers
away to their competitors.  Tell them you'll bring your money back if
they'll give you a call when they've fixed it.

If you don't follow my thinking purely on philosophical grounds,
extrapolate their incompetence at putting together a simple web
application to the security of your money elsewhere in the bank's
various other systems, and switch for your own safety.

good times,
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Re: netscape 7.02

2004-01-16 Thread Gilberto F da Silva
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 Alguém sabe como atualizar o browser da netscape para a versão 7.02 ?

Eu nunca vi atualização para o Netscape.  Sempre é preciso baixar o 
arquivo completo.

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Re: netscape 7.02

2004-01-15 Thread Stan
Não sei te dizer, mas porque nao usas o Mozilla-Firebird ? Da pra 
instalar/atulizar pelo Apt-get, e funciona muito bem.


Falou,
MD

ViNiCiUs wrote:

Alguém sabe como atualizar o browser da netscape para a versão 7.02 ?

Porque no site só é possível o download completo do mesmo...

   
  Obrigado !!!







Re: netscape 7.02

2004-01-15 Thread Douglas A. Augusto
No dia 15/01/2004 às 11:33,
Stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Não sei te dizer, mas porque nao usas o Mozilla-Firebird ? Da pra 
 instalar/atulizar pelo Apt-get, e funciona muito bem.

Ou até mesmo o Mozilla, que  é uma suite completa (navegador, leitor e-mail,
compositor html, chat, etc) e ainda é mais estável que o Mozilla-Firebird.


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Re: Netscape-Schwierigkeiten

2003-12-25 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi,

 ich habe da eine kleine Schwierigkeit mit netscape und anderen
 Browsern.
 
 Bei dem Netscape stürzen sehr häufig java-Applikationen, wie zum 
 Beispiel der Chat von web und andere, ab.
 Dann steh der Browser, es passiert nichts mehr und ich muß ihn mit
 dem kill Befehl beenden.
 Bei andere Browsern (Mozilla, Galeon) funktionieren solche 
 java-Applikationen erst gar nicht.
 Was kann ich denn da ändern  ?

Evtl. eine andere Java-Version nehmen?
Welche verwendest du denn? Ich verwende derzeit 1.4.1-01 und habe
keine derartigen Probleme (allerdings verwende ich selten Netscape
oder Mozilla).
Bei Mozilla kannst du unter Help - About Plug-Ins sehen,
ob mozilla das java-plugin überhaupt findet. Und in den
Preferences unter Advanced muss Java generell aktiviert werden.

Greets
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Re: Netscape sem som

2003-12-15 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra
Em Seg, 2003-12-15 às 11:59, Igor Miranda - SETRAN escreveu:
 Baixei o netscape 7.1... estou usando a versao stable do debian... no kde o
 som funciona normal... porem quando estou navegando com o netscape ele nao
 toca os sons da pagina... flash por exemplo...

Tenho o mesmo problema.  Uso esd, mas o Mozilla não obedece a variável
SDL_AUDIODRIVER=esd.

Dica: o Netscape 7.1 não é suportado em Debian.  Use o Mozilla, que é
equivalente.


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Re: Netscape sem som

2003-12-15 Thread Fabricio Cannini Flores
Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra disse: 


Use o Mozilla, que é equivalente.


Não, use o Mozilla pq é melhor. Melhor por ser Livre. 





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Re: Netscape und Java

2003-07-20 Thread Jens Lehmann
Andreas Sonnabend wrote:
Habe das Problem gelöst, wie in 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch8.html
8.3 beschrieben.
Das steht übrigens auch in der INSTALL-Datei von Java.

Jens



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Re: Netscape und Java

2003-07-19 Thread Jhair Tocancipa Triana
Hallo,

[Netscape 7.02 unter Woody]
 Ich habe schon alle möglichen Pakete, auch von der Sun-seite schon
 installiert und deinstalliert.

Das bezweifle ich. Geschickter wäre die Pakete, die du probierst hast
zu erwähnen.

[...]
 Kann mir jemand weiterhelfen?

http://mozilla.weebeastie.net/java.shtml

Ja, ist Mozilla-spezifisch, aber da gibt es ein Plugin-spezifisches
Teil (Stichwort libstdc++), das vielleicht dir helfen kann.

 Grüße

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Re: Netscape und Java

2003-07-19 Thread Andreas Sonnabend
Habe das Problem gelöst, wie in 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch8.html
8.3 beschrieben.

Andreas


Am Samstag, 19. Juli 2003 09:10 schrieb Jhair Tocancipa Triana:
 Hallo,

 [Netscape 7.02 unter Woody]

  Ich habe schon alle möglichen Pakete, auch von der Sun-seite schon
  installiert und deinstalliert.

 Das bezweifle ich. Geschickter wäre die Pakete, die du probierst hast
 zu erwähnen.

 [...]

  Kann mir jemand weiterhelfen?

 http://mozilla.weebeastie.net/java.shtml

 Ja, ist Mozilla-spezifisch, aber da gibt es ein Plugin-spezifisches
 Teil (Stichwort libstdc++), das vielleicht dir helfen kann.

  Grüße

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Re: Netscape 7 or 7.01 or 7.02 in a debian package? error shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2

2003-06-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 07:03:23PM -0400, David Meiser wrote:
 Mark C wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 20:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/bin/netscape-installer# ./netscape-installer
 ./netscape-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: 
 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or 
 directory
 
 Install (from woody):
 
 libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 2.91.66-4
 
 I have Netscape 7.02 running under Sid.  I had the same problem when 
 installing.  To get it to work, I did the worst hack in the world and 
 just copied the libstdc++-libc6 file to whatever netscape was asking 
 for.  It works for me, though.

Mark C's answer was correct. You can do that in sid as well - you just
have to grab the libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 package from woody.

Alternatively, you could just use Mozilla :-)

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Re: Netscape 7 or 7.01 or 7.02 in a debian package? error sharedlibraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2

2003-06-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/bin/netscape-installer# ls
README  config.ini  installer.ini  license.txt  netscape-installer  netscape-installer-bin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/bin/netscape-installer# ./netscape-installer
./netscape-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot 
open shared object file: No such file or directory

Seth H Holmes wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], J F wrote:

Is there a trusted place to apt-get
Netscape 7 or 7.01 or 7.02 in a debian package?
I really like Netscape better than Mozilla since
it seems to work with more websites
(like flash) and has a spell checker already
built in.


Just grab it from here:

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download_other.jsp/

And do the install. Works fine.



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Re: Netscape 7 or 7.01 or 7.02 in a debian package? error sharedlibraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2

2003-06-12 Thread Mark C
On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 20:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/bin/netscape-installer# ./netscape-installer
 ./netscape-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: 
 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot 
 open shared object file: No such file or directory

Install (from woody):

libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 2.91.66-4

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Re: Netscape 7 or 7.01 or 7.02 in a debian package? error sharedlibraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2

2003-06-12 Thread David Meiser




I have Netscape 7.02 running under Sid. I had the same problem when installing.
To get it to work, I did the worst hack in the world and just copied the
libstdc++-libc6 file to whatever netscape was asking for. It works for me,
though.

Peace,
DAVE

Mark C wrote:

  On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 20:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/bin/netscape-installer# ./netscape-installer
./netscape-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot 
open shared object file: No such file or directory

  
  
Install (from woody):

libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 2.91.66-4

Mark


  






Re: Netscape

2003-03-24 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 03:57:10PM +0100, david wrote:
 Hi Volks ,
Hi David,

 ich moechte eine neue Version von Netscape installalieren.
 Was soll ich  machen , um meine Favoriten nicht tu verlieren
Deine Bookmarks (Favoriten kennt nur der IE) sollte in deinem
Profil in ~/.netscape oder ~/.mozilla liegen und beim De-Installieren
bzw. upgrade nicht angeruehrt werden. Die Datei heist fuer gewoehnlich
bookmarks.html, du kannst sie um ganz sicher zu gehen auch backupen.

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Re: netscape 7

2002-12-14 Thread Claudio Ferreira

Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:

Em Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:15:51 -0200, Gilberto Garcia Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escreveu:

a versão que tenho em casa do mozilla é a 1.0.0, que vem junto com a
distribuição do debian woody 3 Atenciosamente


Se não me engano esse mozilla foi a base para o netscape 6... o netscape
7 foi baseado no mozilla 1.1 que o Otavio empacotou pra Woody aqui:

Acho q é isso aqui :
deb http://people.debian.org/~otavio/debian woody mozilla


Anyway... melhor pegar o instalador do mozilla do que o do netscape =P
Pega logo o mozilla 1.2.1, que provavelmente vai ser o netscape 8 =D
Segura um pouco o 1.2.1 q imagino q na próxima semana, já conseguimos o 
1.2.1 empacotado pelo Otávio .


Claudio




Re: netscape 7

2002-12-13 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:15:51 -0200, Gilberto Garcia Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escreveu:

 a versão que tenho em casa do mozilla é a 1.0.0, que vem junto com a
 distribuição do debian woody 3 Atenciosamente

Se não me engano esse mozilla foi a base para o netscape 6... o netscape
7 foi baseado no mozilla 1.1 que o Otavio empacotou pra Woody aqui:

deb http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio debian woody

(Eu acho)

Anyway... melhor pegar o instalador do mozilla do que o do netscape =P
Pega logo o mozilla 1.2.1, que provavelmente vai ser o netscape 8 =D

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Re: netscape 7

2002-12-12 Thread Wagner Fraga



Eu instalei e funcionou bastou instalar a 
libstcd++2.9-glibc2.1 , para ( old egcs version )

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Gilberto Garcia 
  Jr. 
  To: Debian User 
  Portuguese 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 4:49 
  PM
  Subject: netscape 7
  
  Pessoal, tentei instalar em casa ontem o netscape 
  7, porem ele diz que eu nao tenho a biblioteca
  
  libstcd++--libc alguma coisa
  
  porem fui ver e elas estavam la instaladas 
  bunitinhas no seus devidos lugares, alguma ideia???
  
  []´s
  Iced Sun


Re: netscape 7

2002-12-12 Thread Gilberto Garcia Jr.
obrigado pela ajuda...

apenas um comentário:

eu sou a favor da causa open source, não foi a toa que larguei do windows
para mudar pra linux. porem sou desenvolvedor web e preciso de um browser
padrao para testar meus projetos.

a propósito, eu tenho o mozilla instalado em casa, e o netscape é apenas
necessidade profissional. :)

[]´s

- Original Message -
From: Gustavo Noronha Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: netscape 7


 Em Wed, 11 Dec 2002 17:18:56 -0200, Gilberto Garcia Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 escreveu:

  Pessoal, tentei instalar em casa ontem o netscape 7, porem ele diz que
eu nao
  tenho a biblioteca
 
  libstcd++--libc alguma coisa
 
  porem fui ver e elas estavam la instaladas bunitinhas no seus devidos
lugares,
  alguma ideia???

 # apt-get install mozilla

 E esqueça essa coisa non-free =P

 Mas se quiser mesmo insistir nisso, confira os outros nomes de pacote
 libstdc++, porque tem vários deles. Procure também na unstable, se
 for o caso.

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Re: netscape 7

2002-12-12 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Thu, 12 Dec 2002 09:54:00 -0200, Gilberto Garcia Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escreveu:

 eu sou a favor da causa open source, não foi a toa que larguei do windows
 para mudar pra linux. porem sou desenvolvedor web e preciso de um browser
 padrao para testar meus projetos.
 
 a propósito, eu tenho o mozilla instalado em casa, e o netscape é apenas
 necessidade profissional. :)

Bom... talvez você não esteja ciente de que o netscape usa o engine do 
mozilla, portanto a renderização deles deve ser idêntica... 

Se você realmente acredita nos seus argumentos você precisa é do IE 6.0 =D

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Re: netscape 7

2002-12-12 Thread Gilberto Garcia Jr.
eu sei que ele usa o mesmo engine, porem a netscape fez algumas melhorias no
seu browser, fazendo com que ele aceite os css mais novos sem problema.

Pelos menos a impressão que eu tive com o mozilla, pelo menos a versao que
esta em casa, nao sei se é a ultima, é que ele é bem mais cru que o
netscape.

A impressao que tenho é que o netscape é um mozilla melhorado.

:)

[]´s

ps- se eu estiver errado me corrija.


- Original Message -
From: Gustavo Noronha Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: netscape 7


 Em Thu, 12 Dec 2002 09:54:00 -0200, Gilberto Garcia Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 escreveu:

  eu sou a favor da causa open source, não foi a toa que larguei do
windows
  para mudar pra linux. porem sou desenvolvedor web e preciso de um
browser
  padrao para testar meus projetos.
 
  a propósito, eu tenho o mozilla instalado em casa, e o netscape é apenas
  necessidade profissional. :)

 Bom... talvez você não esteja ciente de que o netscape usa o engine do
 mozilla, portanto a renderização deles deve ser idêntica...

 Se você realmente acredita nos seus argumentos você precisa é do IE 6.0 =D

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Re: netscape 7

2002-12-12 Thread Claudio Ferreira

Olá a todos

Gilberto Garcia Jr. wrote:

eu sei que ele usa o mesmo engine, porem a netscape fez algumas melhorias no
seu browser, fazendo com que ele aceite os css mais novos sem problema.
Pelos menos a impressão que eu tive com o mozilla, pelo menos a versao que
esta em casa, nao sei se é a ultima, é que ele é bem mais cru que o
netscape.
Realmente, deve verificar qual é a tua versão . A q eu uso é a 1.1 e 
está excelente . Estamos trabalhando para a semana q vem lançar a 1.2.1, 
que já está disponível para linux e em inglês.



A impressao que tenho é que o netscape é um mozilla melhorado.
Sou obrigado a concordar com isso ... O pessoal da Netscape sabe muito 
bem como mexer no skin do mozilla, tanto q nem parece ser mozilla!... ;)


Esse tema dá uma boa flame-war ... (PELEJA !!!) =)
Atenciosamente

Claudio



Re: netscape 7

2002-12-12 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Thu, 12 Dec 2002 15:44:39 -0200, Gilberto Garcia Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escreveu:

 eu sei que ele usa o mesmo engine, porem a netscape fez algumas melhorias no
 seu browser, fazendo com que ele aceite os css mais novos sem problema.
 
 Pelos menos a impressão que eu tive com o mozilla, pelo menos a versao que
 esta em casa, nao sei se é a ultima, é que ele é bem mais cru que o
 netscape.

Qual versão você tem em casa?

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Re: netscape 7

2002-12-12 Thread Srinath Mantripragada

vc esta errado. :-)


Gilberto Garcia Jr. wrote:


eu sei que ele usa o mesmo engine, porem a netscape fez algumas melhorias no
seu browser, fazendo com que ele aceite os css mais novos sem problema.

Pelos menos a impressão que eu tive com o mozilla, pelo menos a versao que
esta em casa, nao sei se é a ultima, é que ele é bem mais cru que o
netscape.

A impressao que tenho é que o netscape é um mozilla melhorado.

:)

[]´s

ps- se eu estiver errado me corrija.


- Original Message -
From: Gustavo Noronha Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: netscape 7


 


Em Thu, 12 Dec 2002 09:54:00 -0200, Gilberto Garcia Jr.
   


[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


escreveu:

   


eu sou a favor da causa open source, não foi a toa que larguei do
 


windows
 


para mudar pra linux. porem sou desenvolvedor web e preciso de um
 


browser
 


padrao para testar meus projetos.

a propósito, eu tenho o mozilla instalado em casa, e o netscape é apenas
necessidade profissional. :)
 


Bom... talvez você não esteja ciente de que o netscape usa o engine do
mozilla, portanto a renderização deles deve ser idêntica...

Se você realmente acredita nos seus argumentos você precisa é do IE 6.0 =D

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Re: netscape 7

2002-12-11 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Wed, 11 Dec 2002 17:18:56 -0200, Gilberto Garcia Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escreveu:

 Pessoal, tentei instalar em casa ontem o netscape 7, porem ele diz que eu nao
 tenho a biblioteca
 
 libstcd++--libc alguma coisa
 
 porem fui ver e elas estavam la instaladas bunitinhas no seus devidos lugares,
 alguma ideia???

# apt-get install mozilla

E esqueça essa coisa non-free =P

Mas se quiser mesmo insistir nisso, confira os outros nomes de pacote
libstdc++, porque tem vários deles. Procure também na unstable, se
for o caso.

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Re: netscape not in unstable

2002-11-25 Thread Haralambos Geortgilakis


Hi guys (in the gender-inclusive sense)  Rob,

who did notith Flamebait nor Troll as below  ;-)

Verily, did Netscape say to Microsoft, stuff you mate!

While the later hath won many battles, the war continuesith  
AOL/Netscape *fund* (kudos hereabouts!) both Mozilla  Netscape 7.x.

Netscape 7 series does include some fluff, but I like the added in Java, 
flash, spell checker  this may sound quaint; but I have grown somewhat 
attached to this old beastie, as we have been together since about 1994 
 that is a long term relationship!

The only thing I wish it had, was a pop-up killer.

But if you know what I am saying, I am kind of fast on the draw of a 
mouse, partner *tumbled weeds are seen blowing behind the lone gunman, 
deep in the heart of Texas*

If some of this makes sense, I hope it answers your question?

*BFN*

Greek Geek  :-)

I know you think you have won, Mr Gates. So did the Trojan's  my 
ancestors dealt with them  we shall deal with you. --GG, on Debian Linux.

Rob Weir wrote:

On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 02:44:18PM +1300, Haralambos Geortgilakis wrote:
 

Hi Yall  Mike,

point your software @ Netscape's FTP/HTTP  grab whatever you want.

I am on Netscape 7.0 now  it is just fine. There are no .debs, but the 
installer is ok.
   


Can I ask why you chose Netscape over Mozilla?  Netscape 7.0 just seems
to be an older, crippled version of Netscape with lots of shopping links
and cruft layered on top.

Er, that's supposed to be a serious question, not a troll :-)

-rob
 




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Re: netscape not in unstable

2002-11-25 Thread Seneca
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 10:40:04PM +1300, Haralambos Geortgilakis wrote:
 Netscape 7 series does include some fluff, but I like the added in Java, 
 flash, spell checker  this may sound quaint; but I have grown somewhat 
 attached to this old beastie, as we have been together since about 1994 
  that is a long term relationship!
 
 The only thing I wish it had, was a pop-up killer.

See
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200205/msg03331.html

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Re: netscape not in unstable

2002-11-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 08:04:04PM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
 Is there a reason why netscape isn't in unstable?

Yeah.  Mozilla is NS6 without the crap.  The netscape package was
something like 4.76 and was getting increasingly buggy as the
libraries got newer.

Mozilla works a lot better than netscape, NS6 and newer are pretty
incumbered in AOL chrome, and is mozilla repackaged.

Trust me on the moz.

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Re: Netscape 4 sans fontes utilisable

2002-11-22 Thread Nicolas Kowalski
Christophe Courtois [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Apparemment toutes mes fontes marchent bien partout, sauf pour 
 Netscape (v4) : je n'ai pas le moindre texte lisible, juste des carrés 
 à la place des boutons, menus, etc... J'ai viré mon .netscape à tout 
 hasard, ça ne change rien.
  Google ne m'a rien donné, je ne sais même pas vraiment par où 
 chercher. 
  Merci d'avance pour toute info ou RTFM.

  
  A tout hasard je vous livre le début de mon XF86Config-4 

[...]

Je te donne le mien, qui fonctionne bien au boulot (Woody, Potato,
XFree3/4) :

Section Files
   RgbPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
EndSection

Mes deux centimes.

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Re: Netscape 4 sans fontes utilisable

2002-11-22 Thread Xavier Poinsard

Raphaël Bordet wrote:



Pourquoi persister à utiliser Netscape 4 ?



NS4 permet d'aller sur le site d'une certaine banque qui a du mal à 
respecter les standards...




Re: Netscape 4 sans fontes utilisable

2002-11-21 Thread Christophe Courtois
 Désolé pour le retard à la réponse
   Apparemment toutes mes fontes marchent bien partout, sauf pour
  Netscape (v4) : je n'ai pas le moindre texte lisible, juste des
  carrés à la place des boutons, menus, etc... J'ai viré mon
 Pourquoi persister à utiliser Netscape 4 ?

 Parce que j'aime bien tester mon site dans un peu tous les browsers 
que j'ai sous la main.
 Parce que c'est ce que mon père a chez lui et que ça aide d'avoir le 
même browser sous la main lors d'un dépannage téléphonique.

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Re: Netscape 4 sans fontes utilisable

2002-11-17 Thread Raphaël Bordet
Le dim 17/11/2002 à 18:28, Christophe Courtois a écrit :
  Apparemment toutes mes fontes marchent bien partout, sauf pour 
 Netscape (v4) : je n'ai pas le moindre texte lisible, juste des carrés 
 à la place des boutons, menus, etc... J'ai viré mon .netscape à tout 
 hasard, ça ne change rien.
  Google ne m'a rien donné, je ne sais même pas vraiment par où 
 chercher. 
  Merci d'avance pour toute info ou RTFM.

Pourquoi persister à utiliser Netscape 4 ?

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Re: Netscape 7.0 installation Error-Help please

2002-11-05 Thread Chris Lale


well, I have not had this one before

I've had a long look thru Synaptic ATP gui  can't find this stuff.

Um, where is it?

snip
./netscape-installer
./netscape-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Press any key to continue...
snip



I had the same problem. I found the required .deb by searching for 
'libstdc++-libc6' using the search page at 
http://www.uk.debian.org/distrib/packages

Use apt-get to install this package and then follow the instructions for 
 ./netscape-installer.

hth

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Re: netscape

2002-11-04 Thread Otavio Salvador
Galileu Paulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am new to Linux and I have had some sort of problems I could not find the
 way out. I am using Debian 2.2r5 in an old brave Pentium 166. Here are the
 problems:

Galileu, esta lista eh propria para os falantes da lingua portuguesa e
podes falar em sua lingua nativa sem problemas ;) Tomei a liberdade de
nao responder em ingles jah que seu mail termina com .br ;)

 1- I could not run Netscape. I installed the system completely and later I
 installed nestscape-base-4 with all the packages recommended by dselect.
 However, the icons on the desktop that should point to the browser do not
 work. I tried the command netscape-remote at the xterm window and I just
 received the answer not running on display :0.0. I tried as root and as
 regular user. I tried to find any other executable that could start
 netscape, but no succeed. I uninstalled netscape, installed again several
 times, and nothing.

Primeiramente, acho que por voce usar o Debian jah a algum tempo,
indico que voce faca a atualizacao de seu sistema para o Woody, que eh
a versao 3.0 (stable). 

Para executar o netscape, podes usar somente o comando
'netscape'. Aqui funciona.

Se voce resolver atualizar seu sistema, indico que voce use o Galeon
ou o Konqueror devido ao poder computacional de sua maquina. O Mozilla
eh um otimo browser mas um pouco (nem tao pouco assim) pesado.

 2- Every time I install the xwindow system (I did it many times), Linux
 always run the graphical environment at startup. Sometimes I like to be able
 to start Linux with the prompt shell only. How can I do that. (I did it
 once, when I had a RedHat installed, just changing the runlevel at startup,
 but it did not work with Debian).

Voce tem varias maneiras de mudar isso. Provavelmente durante a
instalacao voce selecionou via tasksel o sistema do X e devido a isso
ele inclui o xdm, wdm, kde ou gdm na inicializacao (nao lembro qual o
padrao).

Voce pode remove-lo, usando o apt-get seria:

apt-get remove pacote --purge

ou remove-lo da inicializacao usando:

update-rc.d -f gerenciador remove

Espero que ajude ;)

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Re: Netscape 7.0 installation Error-Help please.

2002-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 12:38:00AM +1300, Haralambos Geortgilakis wrote:
 ./netscape-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: 
 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file 
 or directory

Install the libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 package. In future you can use the
search engine on http://packages.debian.org/ to answer these kinds of
questions.

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Re: Netscape 7.0 installation Error-Help please.

2002-11-04 Thread Rupert
On Tue, 05 Nov 2002 00:38:00 +1300
Haralambos Geortgilakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Hi all,
 
 well, I have not had this one before
 
 I've had a long look thru Synaptic ATP gui  can't find this stuff.
 
 Um, where is it?
 
 snip
  ./netscape-installer
 ./netscape-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: 
 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file 
 or directory

Try searching on http://packages.debian.org. The package you're after is
oldlibs/libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 according to that.

Rupert


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Re: Netscape 7.0 installation Error-Help please.

2002-11-04 Thread Joshua Lee
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 12:38:00AM +1300, Haralambos Geortgilakis wrote:
 ./netscape-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: 
 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file 
 or directory

You need a RH 6 compatability library. 

apt-get install libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1


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Re: Netscape 7.0 installation Error-Help please.

2002-11-04 Thread Haralambos Geortgilakis

Hi All  Colin,

thanx guys, that helped installing it, but now it wont run (either as 
root or vanilla user)!?!?

Um, it has behaved itself in other distros-but the distros didn't

Any suggestions?

H :-)



Colin Watson wrote:

On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 12:38:00AM +1300, Haralambos Geortgilakis wrote:


./netscape-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: 
libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file 
or directory


Install the libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 package. In future you can use the
search engine on http://packages.debian.org/ to answer these kinds of
questions.

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Re: netscape

2002-11-04 Thread Russell
Galileu Paulo wrote:
 
 Hi guys:
 
 I am new to Linux and I have had some sort of problems I could not find the
 way out. I am using Debian 2.2r5 in an old brave Pentium 166. Here are the
 problems:
 
 1- I could not run Netscape. I installed the system completely and later I
 installed nestscape-base-4 with all the packages recommended by dselect.
 However, the icons on the desktop that should point to the browser do not
 work. I tried the command netscape-remote at the xterm window and I just
 received the answer not running on display :0.0. I tried as root and as
 regular user. I tried to find any other executable that could start
 netscape, but no succeed. I uninstalled netscape, installed again several
 times, and nothing.
 
 2- Every time I install the xwindow system (I did it many times), Linux
 always run the graphical environment at startup. Sometimes I like to be able
 to start Linux with the prompt shell only. How can I do that. (I did it
 once, when I had a RedHat installed, just changing the runlevel at startup,
 but it did not work with Debian).
 
 Could anybody help me?

ctrl-alt-F1 will get to a console. Disabling or uninstalling xdm will
stop X starting at boot.


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Re: netscape

2002-11-04 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Galileu Paulo said:
 Hi guys:
 
 I am new to Linux and I have had some sort of problems I could not find the
 way out. I am using Debian 2.2r5 in an old brave Pentium 166. Here are the
 problems:
 
 1- I could not run Netscape. I installed the system completely and later I
 installed nestscape-base-4 with all the packages recommended by dselect.
 However, the icons on the desktop that should point to the browser do not
 work. I tried the command netscape-remote at the xterm window and I just
 received the answer not running on display :0.0. I tried as root and as
 regular user. I tried to find any other executable that could start
 netscape, but no succeed. I uninstalled netscape, installed again several
 times, and nothing.

Try /usr/bin/X11/netscape - I'm guessing you're running GNOME, which as
I recall sometimes had problems calling netscape properly - it uses a
wrapper script to open a new window instead of attempting a new instance
if it's already running - that's the netscape-remote command.

 2- Every time I install the xwindow system (I did it many times), Linux
 always run the graphical environment at startup. Sometimes I like to be able
 to start Linux with the prompt shell only. How can I do that. (I did it
 once, when I had a RedHat installed, just changing the runlevel at startup,
 but it did not work with Debian).

Ctrl-Alt-F(1-6) will get you a terminal login even if you have one of
the GUI login managers running.  If you want to stop the GUI login
manager from running, you can either apt-get remove --purge it (it's on
of {k,x,g}dm) or you can remove the start link in /etc/rc2.2/ - it
called Sxx{g,k,x}dm where xx are some numbers (I think 99, but I can't
remember).

 Could anybody help me?

I hope so,
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Re: netscape

2002-11-04 Thread nate
Galileu Paulo said:
 Hi guys:

 1- I could not run Netscape. I installed the system completely and later I
 installed nestscape-base-4 with all the packages recommended by dselect.
 However, the icons on the desktop that should point to the browser do not
 work. I tried the command netscape-remote at the xterm window and I just
 received the answer not running on display :0.0. I tried as root and as
 regular user. I tried to find any other executable that could start
 netscape, but no succeed. I uninstalled netscape, installed again several
 times, and nothing.

i haven't used dselect much in the past 2 years but maybe you could
try

apt-get install navigator ?


the netscape packages I have installed:
communicatorinstall
communicator-base-477   install
communicator-smotif-477 install
netscapeinstall
netscape-base-4 install
netscape-base-477   install
netscape-java-477   install

(this is a woody system the package names may be slightly
different for potato)

I usually prefer communicator over plain ol navigator and
do:
apt-get install communicator

sounds like the core of the software didn't get installed.

nate




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Re: netscape

2002-11-04 Thread Russell
Stephen Gran wrote:
 
 This one time, at band camp, Galileu Paulo said:
  Hi guys:
 
  I am new to Linux and I have had some sort of problems I could not find the
  way out. I am using Debian 2.2r5 in an old brave Pentium 166. Here are the
  problems:
...
 Ctrl-Alt-F(1-6) will get you a terminal login even if you have one of
 the GUI login managers running.  If you want to stop the GUI login
 manager from running, you can either apt-get remove --purge it (it's on
 of {k,x,g}dm) or you can remove the start link in /etc/rc2.2/ - it
 called Sxx{g,k,x}dm where xx are some numbers (I think 99, but I can't
 remember).
 
  Could anybody help me?

After getting in to the console, X can be stopped with: /etc/init.d/xdm stop


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Re: netscape

2002-11-04 Thread Jerome Acks Jr
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 11:36:23PM -0200, Galileu Paulo wrote:
 Hi guys:
 
 I am new to Linux and I have had some sort of problems I could not find the
 way out. I am using Debian 2.2r5 in an old brave Pentium 166. Here are the
 problems:
 
 1- I could not run Netscape. I installed the system completely and later I
 installed nestscape-base-4 with all the packages recommended by dselect.
 However, the icons on the desktop that should point to the browser do not
 work. I tried the command netscape-remote at the xterm window and I just
 received the answer not running on display :0.0. 

I get same results with netscape-remote. I'm not sure why.

 I tried as root and as
 regular user. I tried to find any other executable that could start
 netscape, but no succeed. I uninstalled netscape, installed again several
 times, and nothing.

netscape should start by simply entering netscape in xterm command
promtp. Or at least give error message.  

$ whereis netscape
netscape: /usr/lib/netscape /usr/X11R6/bin/netscape
/usr/bin/X11/netscape /usr/local/bin/netscape /usr/local/lib/netscape

$ file /usr/X11R6/bin/netscape
/usr/X11R6/bin/netscape: symbolic link to /etc/alternatives/netscape

$ file /etc/alternatives/netscape
/etc/alternatives/netscape: symbolic link to
/usr/lib/netscape/477/communicator/communicator-smotif

This last is what actually runs on my computer since I have
communicator installed.

 
 2- Every time I install the xwindow system (I did it many times), Linux
 always run the graphical environment at startup. Sometimes I like to be able
 to start Linux with the prompt shell only. How can I do that. (I did it
 once, when I had a RedHat installed, just changing the runlevel at startup,
 but it did not work with Debian).
 
 Could anybody help me?
 

Disable or remove gdm, kdm, or xdm. Assuming you have xdm installed:
To stop the graphic login, [Ctrl][Alt][F1] to switch to console, login
as root and run /etc/init.d/xdm stop. The other are similar.

To disable graphic login at boot, put exit 0 on second line of the
script in /etc/init.d 

To remove: apt-get remove xdm

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Re: netscape opens mozilla window if mozilla is running: why? (not how)

2002-11-02 Thread nate
Andrea Borgia said:
 Hello.

 Since I'm quite new to Debian, what is the rationale behind
 netscape-remote?

I believe it is so when/if a user tries to load netscape twice
(and many non technical users do when they want to open a new
window), it opens a new window instead of tries to load a new process
which then puts up a big warning saying  Theres already a .lock file
in your .netscape directory be sure ..etc etc.. which can confuse
people I suppose.

 And why running netscape should open another mozilla
 window?

most likely because mozilla is mostly coded by netscape engineers
and they wanted to maintain a consistant interface to it so they
use many of the same command line options available to previous
netscape versions. So the script tries to call the command and
mozilla happily responds.


 Maybe, I say maybe ;-), if I type 'netscape' I want netscape and
 not another mozilla window, maybe because I need to test something
 specifically with netscape.

When I want to load netscape, and ONLY netscape if I have mozilla
already running I run netscape directly:
/usr/lib/netscape/477/communicator/communicator-smotif.real

that, on my system loads it, without any scripts and it works
everytime. You don't get the advantages the script may offer
I think it does a lot to the enviornment to make netscape more
secure and more friendly(been a while since I looked at the
script though). I don't use netscape 4.x that often anymore
though.


 Am I missing some obvious debian-specific thing or may I rush off to file
 a bugreport?

I think this is an unintended side effect but I wouldn't consider
it a bug, this behavior has been there as long as I can remember,
and at least to me, makes sense, even though it can be inconvient
at times.


nate




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Re: Netscape

2002-10-31 Thread Nelson Luiz Campos

Oi!

Seguinte, no KDE2, eu senti falta do kmenuedit no menu do KDE. Mas, 
tudo bem!
Bom, abra uma janela do konsole ou gnome-terminal ou qualquer terminal 
que você usa e execute: kmenuedit 
Daí, você escolhe a pasta, por exemplo, Internet e depois clica no 
botão Novo Item. Coloque o nome Netscape, depois o executar coloque o caminho 
para o netscape e escolha o icone. Após tudo isso feito, clique em aplicar e 
pronto. :)

[]'s,

Still


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 Você deverá colocar manualmente.
 
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Re: Netscape

2002-10-31 Thread Henrique Pedroni Neto
Se não aparecer: apt-get install menu

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Re: Netscape

2002-10-30 Thread Nelson Luiz Campos
Olá!

Seguinte, o Netscape não faz parte do KDE, por isso não aparece nos 
menus. Você deverá colocar manualmente.

[]'s,

Still

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Re: Netscape

2002-10-30 Thread Tazuzubem
E como faz isso ? Pode me ensinar ?

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Re: Netscape

2002-10-30 Thread Srinath Mantripragada

Nao aparece um menu Debian no seu KDE ??

K-Debian-Apps-Net-Netscape-Communicator*


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Olá!

Seguinte, o Netscape não faz parte do KDE, por isso não aparece nos 
menus. Você deverá colocar manualmente.

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Re: Netscape 7.0

2002-10-19 Thread Andy Saxena
On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 09:37:51AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
 
 [cjwatson@arborlon ~]$ madison kvirc
  kvirc | 1:2.1.2-11 |stable | source, alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, 
m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
  kvirc | 1:2.1.2-11 |   testing | source, alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, 
m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
  kvirc | 1:2.1.2.0-1 |  unstable | arm, ia64
  kvirc | 1:2.1.2.1-1 |  unstable | source, alpha, hppa, i386, m68k, mips, 
mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc

Which package has this nifty program?

-Andy


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Re: Netscape 7.0 won't run----Rrevisited.

2002-10-16 Thread Colin Watson

On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 08:54:31PM -0400, lameth wrote:
 Sorry I let this thread die but I got busy and couldn't respond.
 
 To recap;
 
 I downloaded and unzipped the netscape 7.0 tarball to 
 /home/lameth/netscape-installer.  When I ran the command 
 ./netscape-installer I recieved the following error message;
 ./netscape-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: 
 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file 
 or directory.
[...]
 I'm using Debian Woody and my pc does meet the hardware requirements. I 
 also did a search for libstdc++* I found libstdc++3-libc6.2-2.so.3 in 
 /usr/lib. Do you think this needs a symlink to the /netscape-installer 
 directory?

No, don't symlink libraries with different version numbers together.
Install the libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 package instead.

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Re: Netscape 7.0 won't run----Rrevisited.

2002-10-16 Thread nate

lameth said:
 Sorry I let this thread die but I got busy and couldn't respond.

 To recap;

 I downloaded and unzipped the netscape 7.0 tarball to
 /home/lameth/netscape-installer.  When I ran the command
 ./netscape-installer I recieved the following error message;
 ./netscape-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries:
 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file
 or directory.

 libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 2.91.66-4 provides this file:

/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2

sounds like that's what you wanna get ??

(btw I found this package using the file search at the bottom of
packages.debian.org)

nate




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Re: Netscape 7.0 won't run----Rrevisited.

2002-10-16 Thread lameth

nate wrote:

lameth said:
  

Sorry I let this thread die but I got busy and couldn't respond.

To recap;

I downloaded and unzipped the netscape 7.0 tarball to
/home/lameth/netscape-installer.  When I ran the command
./netscape-installer I recieved the following error message;
./netscape-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries:
libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file
or directory.



 libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 2.91.66-4 provides this file:

/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2

sounds like that's what you wanna get ??

(btw I found this package using the file search at the bottom of
packages.debian.org)

nate




  

Okay I downloaded that package. Now when I run ./netscape-installer I 
get this error message:
Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
default:/home/lameth/netscape-install# ./netscape-installer
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server

This is interesting because when I try to run wmix, a mixer app I just 
installed I get this error;
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client not authorized to connect to Server
Unable to open display (null)

Both error messages seem to be saying the same thing in a slightly 
different manner. I ran the command apt-cache showpkg Xlibs and Xlibs6 I 
have both. Actually Xlibs showed so many results I could only view some 
of the list because there were so many.





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Re: Netscape 7.0 won't run----Rrevisited.

2002-10-16 Thread nate

lameth said:

 Okay I downloaded that package. Now when I run ./netscape-installer I
 get this error message:
 Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
 default:/home/lameth/netscape-install# ./netscape-installer
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server


sounds like your trying to su and run the installer..a few
ways to fix this:

1) make the directory you want to install it to and chown it so
your account can write to it and load the installer using your
account

2) ssh to localhost with the -X option (check to be sure X forwarding
is enabled on your SSH daemon /etc/ssh/sshd_config, if not, turn it
on and restart ssh). login as root(again check /etc/ssh/sshd_config to
be sure rootlogin is permitted, so ssh -l root -X localhost

3) find the 'nolisten tcp' option for the X server/display manager:
grep -nri nolisten tcp /etc/* and remove it, and restart your
X server and/or your display manager, login again and do this:
xhost +localhost
su -
export DISPLAY=:0.0
(run the installer here)

4) login to X as root and load the installer

maybe there is another way too, but those are the ones that come
to mind right away

nate




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RE: Netscape 7.0

2002-10-07 Thread David Pastern

umm not really noi don't see any debs for kvirc...and that's open
source, gpl based... i'm sure I could think of other applications out
there that invalidate your suggestion :-)

Dave

-Original Message-
From: ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, 6 October 2002 4:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern
Subject: Re: Netscape 7.0


 
On Sunday 06 October 2002 10:31 pm, lameth wrote:
 Has anyone gotten netscape 7.0 to install yet? When I tried I received
 the error message;
 ./netscape-installer error while loading shared libraries:
 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2

 I know I have libc6 installed and I just installed libstdc++2.2 other
 than that I do believe woody meets the requirements.

netscape, in any recent iteration, isn't free software. you might want to 
investigate mozilla, or galeon, or dillo. if you can load and run the latest

mozilla, you'll have everything in place to run the latest linux-compatible 
version of netscape, which will, nonetheless, be unfree software. as in, 
ain't no debs for netscape.

ben

p.s. maybe ain't no debs for  should be the standard for
distinguishing 
between free and unfree.


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Re: Netscape 7.0

2002-10-07 Thread ben

On Sunday 06 October 2002 11:52 pm, David Pastern wrote:
 umm not really noi don't see any debs for kvirc...and that's open
 source, gpl based... i'm sure I could think of other applications out
 there that invalidate your suggestion :-)

 Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, 6 October 2002 4:51 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern
 Subject: Re: Netscape 7.0

 On Sunday 06 October 2002 10:31 pm, lameth wrote:
  Has anyone gotten netscape 7.0 to install yet? When I tried I received
  the error message;
  ./netscape-installer error while loading shared libraries:
  libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
 
  I know I have libc6 installed and I just installed libstdc++2.2 other
  than that I do believe woody meets the requirements.

 netscape, in any recent iteration, isn't free software. you might want to
 investigate mozilla, or galeon, or dillo. if you can load and run the
 latest

 mozilla, you'll have everything in place to run the latest linux-compatible
 version of netscape, which will, nonetheless, be unfree software. as in,
 ain't no debs for netscape.

 ben

 p.s. maybe ain't no debs for  should be the standard for
 distinguishing
 between free and unfree.

yo top poster, try an apt-cache show kvirc.

ben


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Re: Netscape 7.0

2002-10-07 Thread Colin Watson

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 04:52:29PM +1000, David Pastern wrote:
 umm not really noi don't see any debs for kvirc...and that's open
 source, gpl based...

[cjwatson@arborlon ~]$ madison kvirc
 kvirc | 1:2.1.2-11 |stable | source, alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, 
mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
 kvirc | 1:2.1.2-11 |   testing | source, alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, 
mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
 kvirc | 1:2.1.2.0-1 |  unstable | arm, ia64
 kvirc | 1:2.1.2.1-1 |  unstable | source, alpha, hppa, i386, m68k, mips, 
mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc

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RE: Netscape 7.0

2002-10-07 Thread David Pastern

whatever Ben.  I hit reply to all, big deal.  If I remember correctly you
didn't seem to think it was on Debian' package list either.  So don't
lecture me on being incorrect, and there's no need to be a smart ass either.


-Original Message-
From: ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 7 October 2002 7:21 PM
To: David Pastern
Subject: Re: Netscape 7.0


 
On Monday 07 October 2002 01:40 am, David Pastern wrote:
 mm it's apt-cache search kvirc :P  and it ain't my fault that it ain't
 offered as a software package by debian either.

[snip]

not only are you incorrect--see colin's post on the list--but you're pissing

me off with the offlist response. keep it on the list, okay?

ben


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Re: Netscape 7.0

2002-10-07 Thread ben

On Monday 07 October 2002 03:04 am, David Pastern wrote:
 whatever Ben.  I hit reply to all, big deal.  If I remember correctly you
 didn't seem to think it was on Debian' package list either.  So don't
 lecture me on being incorrect, and there's no need to be a smart ass
 either.


 -Original Message-
 From: ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, 7 October 2002 7:21 PM
 To: David Pastern
 Subject: Re: Netscape 7.0

 On Monday 07 October 2002 01:40 am, David Pastern wrote:
  mm it's apt-cache search kvirc :P  and it ain't my fault that it ain't
  offered as a software package by debian either.



bullshit, dude. have the grace to admit when you're wrong.

ben


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Re: Netscape 7.0

2002-10-07 Thread Burkhard Ritter

On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, lameth wrote:

 Has anyone gotten netscape 7.0 to install yet? When I tried I received
 the error message;
 ./netscape-installer error while loading shared libraries:
 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2

 I know I have libc6 installed and I just installed libstdc++2.2 other
 than that I do believe woody meets the requirements.

/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 - libstdc++-2-libc6.1-1-2.9.0.so

does this symlink exist?


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Re: netscape 477

2002-07-31 Thread Rénald CASAGRAUDE

Benoît Barbier wrote:


lorsque je tape netscape, il me lance mozilla???

Comment faire pour appeler distinctement Netscape?


Utilise update-alternatives
$ man update-alternatives


C'est quoi tous ces liens symboliques?
ls -l /etc/alternatives/netscape
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   54 jui 29 14:50 /etc/alternatives/netscape 
- /usr/lib/netscape/477/communicator/communicator-smotif

[~] ls -l /usr/bin/X11/netscape
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   26 jui 29 14:50 /usr/bin/X11/netscape 
- /etc/alternatives/netscape


Ce sont des alternatives :-)


Merci d'avance,


De rien !


Ps.
Ça me fait penser qu'il faut que je configure sendmail ou qmail...
Quel est le serveur de mail le plus utilisé en entreprise?


Peut importe, ce n'est peut-être pas celui que tu auras à
utiliser ! Tu as le choix :
 - sendmail
 - postfix
 - exim
 - qmail


C'est à dire, si je me donne la peine d'en étudier un, lequel

 des deux sera le plus intéressant sur mon CV?

Tout dépends de qui lit ton CV, tout dépends du poste que tu vise
tout dépends du reste de ton CV, tout dépends de toi...


Une bonne doc en français est bienvenue.:o)
Ou des réf de bons bouquins.


www.linux-france.org est ton ami, lea-linux aussi, idem pour
Google



Re: Netscape scrollmouse

2002-06-27 Thread Bob Proulx
 With a PS/2 MS Intellimouse and XF86 4.* imwheel is not needed. The
 problem is not the mouse or the mousedriver, it runs perfectly well on
 all applications I use in Woody except Netscape 4.77. The problem
 therefore has to do with Netscape 4.* and/or its config files.

I think you are on top of things.  But does netscape 4.77 support the
mouse wheel?  I did not think so.  If you can go to a newer version or
Mozilla or Galeon or something newer then I believe it will have mouse
wheel support.  I think netscape 4.77 is just too old for that.  I
believe that is why the previous poster was suggesting imwheel.  That
converts mouse events to page-up / page-down, cursor-up / cursor-down
keys and works for programs that don't understand the mouse wheel.
But having tried that I did not like it and doubt if you would either.

Bob


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Re: Netscape scrollmouse

2002-06-27 Thread Helgi Örn
On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 06:44, Bob Proulx wrote:
 
 I think you are on top of things.  But does netscape 4.77 support the
 mouse wheel?  I did not think so.  If you can go to a newer version or
 Mozilla or Galeon or something newer then I believe it will have mouse
 wheel support.  I think netscape 4.77 is just too old for that.  I
 believe that is why the previous poster was suggesting imwheel.  That
 converts mouse events to page-up / page-down, cursor-up / cursor-down
 keys and works for programs that don't understand the mouse wheel.
 But having tried that I did not like it and doubt if you would either.
 
In my first mail I explained why I need Netscape 4.*, I use other
browsers too. But when I need to use Netscape I would like to be able to
use the scrollmouse as I am used to in other Linux distributions I have
used before I moved to Debian.

Cheers,
Helgi Örn


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Re: Netscape scrollmouse

2002-06-27 Thread David P James

Helgi Örn wrote:
 On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 06:44, Bob Proulx wrote:

 I think you are on top of things.  But does netscape
 4.77 support the mouse wheel?  I did not think so.  If
 you can go to a newer version or Mozilla or Galeon or
 something newer then I believe it will have mouse wheel
  support.  I think netscape 4.77 is just too old for
 that.  I believe that is why the previous poster was
 suggesting imwheel.  That converts mouse events to
 page-up / page-down, cursor-up / cursor-down keys and
 works for programs that don't understand the mouse
 wheel. But having tried that I did not like it and
 doubt if you would either.


 In my first mail I explained why I need Netscape 4.*, I
 use other browsers too. But when I need to use Netscape I
  would like to be able to use the scrollmouse as I am
 used to in other Linux distributions I have used before I
  moved to Debian.

 Cheers, Helgi Örn




Netscape 4.77 doesn't seem to support scroll wheels, at
least not easily. (Oddly, when I first started using linux I
used Corel Linux and I was able to get the scroll wheel to
work for about 5 minutes at the beginning of a Netscape
session before it cut out on me. I have no idea why and no
idea what I did to get it working at all, other than maybe
shear luck) However, Netscape is fairly customizable
and there is a way around it. I've snipped the relevant
section from my .Xdefaults file in my home directory. There
is a lot more than what I've appended, including entries to
disable blinking text and to replace the search button with
a google link, etc.


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#Save as .Xdefaults in home dir, restart X
! Patches to make Netscape more usable:

Netscape*globalNonTextTranslations:#override
\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyspace:xfeDoCommand(spacebar)   
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyBackSpace:PageUp() 
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyosfBackSpace: PageUp() 
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyDelete:   PageUp() 
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyosfDelete:PageUp() 
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyPrior:PageUp() 
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyosfPageUp:PageUp() 
\n\
 Meta   Btn4Up:  xfeDoCommand(forward)
\n\
   Alt  Btn4Up:  xfeDoCommand(forward)
\n\
CtrlBtn4Up:  PageUp() 
\n\
  Shift Btn4Up:  LineUp() 
\n\
Btn4Up:  LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp() 
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~Ctrl ~Shift KeyUp:   LineUp() 
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~Ctrl ~Shift KeyosfUp:LineUp() 
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyspace:PageDown()   
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyNext: PageDown()   
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyosfPageDown:  PageDown()   
\n\
 Meta   Btn5Up:  xfeDoCommand(back)   
\n\
   Alt  Btn5Up:  xfeDoCommand(back)   
\n\
CtrlBtn5Up:  PageDown()   
\n\
  Shift Btn5Up:  LineDown()   
\n\
Btn5Up:  
LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown() \n\
~Meta ~Alt ~Ctrl ~Shift KeyDown: LineDown()   
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~Ctrl ~Shift KeyosfDown:  LineDown()   
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyLeft: ColumnLeft() 
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyosfLeft:  ColumnLeft() 
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyRight:ColumnRight()
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyosfRight: ColumnRight()
\n\
 Meta   CtrlKeyg:fishcam()
\n\
   Alt  CtrlKeyg:fishcam()
\n\
 Meta   CtrlKeyt:net_showstatus() 
\n\
   Alt  CtrlKeyt:net_showstatus() 
\n\
CtrlKeyt:net_showstatus() 
\n

Netscape*globalTextFieldTranslations:  #override

Re: Netscape scrollmouse

2002-06-27 Thread David P James

David P James wrote:

Helgi Örn wrote:
  On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 06:44, Bob Proulx wrote:
 
  I think you are on top of things.  But does netscape
  4.77 support the mouse wheel?  I did not think so.  If
  you can go to a newer version or Mozilla or Galeon or
  something newer then I believe it will have mouse wheel
   support.  I think netscape 4.77 is just too old for
  that.  I believe that is why the previous poster was
  suggesting imwheel.  That converts mouse events to
  page-up / page-down, cursor-up / cursor-down keys and
  works for programs that don't understand the mouse
  wheel. But having tried that I did not like it and
  doubt if you would either.
 
 
  In my first mail I explained why I need Netscape 4.*, I
  use other browsers too. But when I need to use Netscape I
   would like to be able to use the scrollmouse as I am
  used to in other Linux distributions I have used before I
   moved to Debian.
 
  Cheers, Helgi Örn
 
 


Netscape 4.77 doesn't seem to support scroll wheels, at
least not easily. (Oddly, when I first started using linux I
used Corel Linux and I was able to get the scroll wheel to
work for about 5 minutes at the beginning of a Netscape
session before it cut out on me. I have no idea why and no
idea what I did to get it working at all, other than maybe
shear luck) However, Netscape is fairly customizable
and there is a way around it. I've snipped the relevant
section from my .Xdefaults file in my home directory. There
is a lot more than what I've appended, including entries to
disable blinking text and to replace the search button with
a google link, etc.




Ah, heck, here's the entire thing...


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!##KILL BAD FONTS
! For nice fonts, Netscape especially
!*fontList: -*-lucida-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
#Netscape*documentFonts.charset*adobe-fontspecific: iso-8859-1
#Netscape*documentFonts.charset*adobe-fontspecific:   iso-8859-1

!## NETSCAPE
#Netscape*drawingArea.translations:  #replace\
#Btn1Down:   ArmLink()   \n\
#Btn2Down:   ArmLink()   \n\
#~ShiftBtn1Up:   ActivateLink()  \n\
#~ShiftBtn2Up:   ActivateLink(new-window)  \
#DisarmLink()\n\
#ShiftBtn1Up:ActivateLink(save-only)  \
#DisarmLink()\n\
#ShiftBtn2Up:ActivateLink(save-only)  \
#DisarmLink()\n\
#Btn1Motion: DisarmLinkIfMoved()  \n\
#Btn2Motion: DisarmLinkIfMoved()  \n\
#Btn3Motion: DisarmLinkIfMoved()  \n\
#Motion: DescribeLink()  \n\
#Btn3Down:   xfeDoPopup()\n\
#Btn3Up: ActivatePopup() \n\
#CtrlBtn4Down: PageUp()\n\
#CtrlBtn5Down: PageDown()\n\
#ShiftBtn4Down: LineUp()\n\
#ShiftBtn5Down: LineDown()\n\
# NoneBtn4Down: LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\
# NoneBtn5Down: 
LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()\n\
!
!Netscape*globalNonTextTranslations: #override\n\
!ShiftBtn4Down: LineUp()\n\
!ShiftBtn5Down: LineDown()\n\
! NoneBtn4Down:LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\
! NoneBtn5Down:LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()\n\

Netscape*toolBar.destinations.isEnabled: false
Netscape*toolBar.myshopping.isEnabled: true
Netscape*toolBar.search.isEnabled: true
Netscape*toolBar.viewSecurity.isEnabled: true
!# NOT MINE
!# XTerm binding for mouse wheel
!# Scrolling on wheel mouse: half a page normally, line per line with shift
XTerm.vt100.translations: #override\n\
 ShiftBtn4Down,Btn4Up:scroll-back(1,line)\n\
 ShiftBtn5Down,Btn5Up:scroll-forw(1,line)\n\
 CtrlBtn4Down,Btn4Up:scroll-back(1,page)\n\
 CtrlBtn5Down,Btn5Up:scroll-forw(1,page)\n\
 Btn4Down,Btn4Up:scroll-back(1,halfpage)\n\
 Btn5Down,Btn5Up:scroll-forw(1,halfpage)\n\

!# In the scrollbar we map buttons 5  4 to 1 and 2 otherwise, core dump
!# This will move proportionnaly to cursor position but we dont know how to
!# program the same exact behavior as in the text widget.
XTerm.vt100.Scrollbar.translations: #override\n\
 Btn5Down: StartScroll(Forward)\n\
 Btn4Down: StartScroll(Backward)\n\

! Patches to make Netscape more usable:

Netscape*globalNonTextTranslations:#override
\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyspace:xfeDoCommand(spacebar)   
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyBackSpace:PageUp() 
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyosfBackSpace: PageUp() 
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyDelete:   PageUp() 
\n\
~Meta ~Alt ~CtrlKeyosfDelete:PageUp()   

Re: Netscape scrollmouse

2002-06-27 Thread David P James

David P James wrote:
 David P James wrote:

 Helgi Örn wrote:
 On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 06:44, Bob Proulx wrote:

 I think you are on top of things.  But does
 netscape 4.77 support the mouse wheel?  I did not
 think so.  If you can go to a newer version or
 Mozilla or Galeon or something newer then I believe
 it will have mouse wheel support.  I think netscape
 4.77 is just too old for that.  I believe that is
 why the previous poster was suggesting imwheel.
 That converts mouse events to page-up / page-down,
 cursor-up / cursor-down keys and works for programs
 that don't understand the mouse wheel. But having
 tried that I did not like it and doubt if you would
 either.


 In my first mail I explained why I need Netscape 4.*,
 I use other browsers too. But when I need to use
 Netscape I would like to be able to use the
 scrollmouse as I am used to in other Linux
 distributions I have used before I moved to Debian.

 Cheers, Helgi Örn




 Netscape 4.77 doesn't seem to support scroll wheels, at
  least not easily. (Oddly, when I first started using
 linux I used Corel Linux and I was able to get the
 scroll wheel to work for about 5 minutes at the
 beginning of a Netscape session before it cut out on
 me. I have no idea why and no idea what I did to get it
 working at all, other than maybe shear luck) However,
 Netscape is fairly customizable and there is a way
 around it. I've snipped the relevant section from my
 .Xdefaults file in my home directory. There is a lot
 more than what I've appended, including entries to
 disable blinking text and to replace the search button
 with a google link, etc.



 Ah, heck, here's the entire thing...


I didn't create this by myself, btw... I found it somewhere
on the internet, probably after a google search. My
bookmarks have got a few links, but they're mostly dead now :(

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RE: Netscape scrollmouse

2002-06-27 Thread jfcarvajal
it worked for me on potato with Xfree 4 but not now in woody. I don´t
remember but i thin it was Netscape 4.75. In mozilla I don`t realize.


 -Mensaje original-
 De: David P James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Enviado el: jueves, 27 de junio de 2002 14:43
 Para: Debian User List
 Asunto: Re: Netscape  scrollmouse


 Helgi Örn wrote:
   On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 06:44, Bob Proulx wrote:
  
   I think you are on top of things.  But does netscape
   4.77 support the mouse wheel?  I did not think so.  If
   you can go to a newer version or Mozilla or Galeon or
   something newer then I believe it will have mouse wheel
support.  I think netscape 4.77 is just too old for
   that.  I believe that is why the previous poster was
   suggesting imwheel.  That converts mouse events to
   page-up / page-down, cursor-up / cursor-down keys and
   works for programs that don't understand the mouse
   wheel. But having tried that I did not like it and
   doubt if you would either.
  
  
   In my first mail I explained why I need Netscape 4.*, I
   use other browsers too. But when I need to use Netscape I
would like to be able to use the scrollmouse as I am
   used to in other Linux distributions I have used before I
moved to Debian.
  
   Cheers, Helgi Örn
  
  


 Netscape 4.77 doesn't seem to support scroll wheels, at
 least not easily. (Oddly, when I first started using linux I
 used Corel Linux and I was able to get the scroll wheel to
 work for about 5 minutes at the beginning of a Netscape
 session before it cut out on me. I have no idea why and no
 idea what I did to get it working at all, other than maybe
 shear luck) However, Netscape is fairly customizable
 and there is a way around it. I've snipped the relevant
 section from my .Xdefaults file in my home directory. There
 is a lot more than what I've appended, including entries to
 disable blinking text and to replace the search button with
 a google link, etc.


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Re: Netscape scrollmouse

2002-06-27 Thread James Hook
G'Day,

On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Bob Proulx wrote:

  With a PS/2 MS Intellimouse and XF86 4.* imwheel is not needed. The
  therefore has to do with Netscape 4.* and/or its config files.
 I think you are on top of things.  But does netscape 4.77 support the
 mouse wheel?  I did not think so.  If you can go to a newer version or
 Mozilla or Galeon or something newer then I believe it will have mouse
 wheel support.  I think netscape 4.77 is just too old for that.  I

Correction, 4.77 supports the mouse wheel, just takes a bit of manual
modification.

I run 'Netscape 4.77 [en]-20010326' here, at first I got a bit annoyed
because I could not use the mouse wheel and switched browsers. But due to
testing reasons I still needed netscape. After a bit of searching I found
A working .xdefaults config that worked fine.

Heres a copy of the text file I **created** (it didnt exist) in my home
dir:
-- 8--
!## NETSCAPE
Netscape*drawingArea.translations:  #replace\
Btn1Down:   ArmLink()   \n\
Btn2Down:   ArmLink()   \n\
~ShiftBtn1Up:   ActivateLink()  \n\
~ShiftBtn2Up:   ActivateLink(new-window)  \
DisarmLink()\n\
ShiftBtn1Up:ActivateLink(save-only)  \
DisarmLink()\n\
ShiftBtn2Up:ActivateLink(save-only)  \
DisarmLink()\n\
Btn1Motion: DisarmLinkIfMoved()  \n\
Btn2Motion: DisarmLinkIfMoved()  \n\
Btn3Motion: DisarmLinkIfMoved()  \n\
Motion: DescribeLink()  \n\
Btn3Down:   xfeDoPopup()\n\
Btn3Up: ActivatePopup() \n\
CtrlBtn4Down: PageUp()\n\
CtrlBtn5Down: PageDown()\n\
ShiftBtn4Down: LineUp()\n\
ShiftBtn5Down: LineDown()\n\
NoneBtn4Down: LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\
NoneBtn5Down:
LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()
\n\
AltBtn4Down: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n\
AltBtn5Down: xfeDoCommand(back)\n

Netscape*globalNonTextTranslations: #override\n\
ShiftBtn4Down: LineUp()\n\
ShiftBtn5Down: LineDown()\n\
NoneBtn4Down:LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\
NoneBtn5Down:LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()\
n\
AltBtn4Down: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n\
AltBtn5Down: xfeDoCommand(back)\n
-- 8--

Hope that helps out in the problem.
BTW: I run X4, with a USB IntelliMouse set up in XF86Config-4 like this:
-- 8--
Section InputDevice
Identifier  Optical Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
#   Option  Device/dev/input/mice
Option  Device/dev/gpmdata
#   Option  Protocol  ImPS/2
Option  Protocol  ExplorerPS/2
Option  ZAxisMapping  6 7
Option  Buttons 7
EndSection
-- 8--

Cheereo,
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Re: Netscape scrollmouse

2002-06-27 Thread Ben Thompson
I don't remeber the start of this thread, but is this link what you need?

http://kalamazoolinux.org/tech/ns-wheel.html


On Friday 28 June 2002 2:28 am, James Hook wrote:
 G'Day,

 On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Bob Proulx wrote:
   With a PS/2 MS Intellimouse and XF86 4.* imwheel is not needed. The
   therefore has to do with Netscape 4.* and/or its config files.
 
  I think you are on top of things.  But does netscape 4.77 support the
  mouse wheel?  I did not think so.  If you can go to a newer version or
  Mozilla or Galeon or something newer then I believe it will have mouse
  wheel support.  I think netscape 4.77 is just too old for that.  I

 Correction, 4.77 supports the mouse wheel, just takes a bit of manual
 modification.

 I run 'Netscape 4.77 [en]-20010326' here, at first I got a bit annoyed
 because I could not use the mouse wheel and switched browsers. But due to
 testing reasons I still needed netscape. After a bit of searching I found
 A working .xdefaults config that worked fine.

 Heres a copy of the text file I **created** (it didnt exist) in my home
 dir:
 -- 8--
 !## NETSCAPE
 Netscape*drawingArea.translations:  #replace\
 Btn1Down:   ArmLink()   \n\
 Btn2Down:   ArmLink()   \n\
 ~ShiftBtn1Up:   ActivateLink()  \n\
 ~ShiftBtn2Up:   ActivateLink(new-window)  \
 DisarmLink()\n\
 ShiftBtn1Up:ActivateLink(save-only)  \
 DisarmLink()\n\
 ShiftBtn2Up:ActivateLink(save-only)  \
 DisarmLink()\n\
 Btn1Motion: DisarmLinkIfMoved()  \n\
 Btn2Motion: DisarmLinkIfMoved()  \n\
 Btn3Motion: DisarmLinkIfMoved()  \n\
 Motion: DescribeLink()  \n\
 Btn3Down:   xfeDoPopup()\n\
 Btn3Up: ActivatePopup() \n\
 CtrlBtn4Down: PageUp()\n\
 CtrlBtn5Down: PageDown()\n\
 ShiftBtn4Down: LineUp()\n\
 ShiftBtn5Down: LineDown()\n\
 NoneBtn4Down: LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\
 NoneBtn5Down:
 LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()
 \n\
 AltBtn4Down: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n\
 AltBtn5Down: xfeDoCommand(back)\n

 Netscape*globalNonTextTranslations: #override\n\
 ShiftBtn4Down: LineUp()\n\
 ShiftBtn5Down: LineDown()\n\
 NoneBtn4Down:LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\
 NoneBtn5Down:LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()
\ n\
 AltBtn4Down: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n\
 AltBtn5Down: xfeDoCommand(back)\n
 -- 8--

 Hope that helps out in the problem.
 BTW: I run X4, with a USB IntelliMouse set up in XF86Config-4 like this:
 -- 8--
 Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Optical Mouse
 Driver  mouse
 Option  CorePointer
 #   Option  Device/dev/input/mice
 Option  Device/dev/gpmdata
 #   Option  Protocol  ImPS/2
 Option  Protocol  ExplorerPS/2
 Option  ZAxisMapping  6 7
 Option  Buttons 7
 EndSection
 -- 8--

 Cheereo,


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Re: Netscape scrollmouse

2002-06-27 Thread David P James

jfcarvajal wrote:
 it worked for me on potato with Xfree 4 but not now in
 woody. I don´t remember but i thin it was Netscape 4.75.
 In mozilla I don`t realize.


This one is the one I used for Netscape 4.77 on a potato
system that had been upgraded to woody. There was a
change made to Netscape between 4.75 and 4.77 (don't know which
way 4.76 goes) which made the old hack unworkable. This
one should do the trick.

I don't have Netscape installed anymore (I bought a new hd
and performed a fresh woody install) so I can't say for
certainty (yet) that it will work. I'll give it a try
shortly though.

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Re: Netscape scrollmouse

2002-06-27 Thread David P James

David P James wrote:

jfcarvajal wrote:
  it worked for me on potato with Xfree 4 but not now in
  woody. I don´t remember but i thin it was Netscape 4.75.
  In mozilla I don`t realize.
 

This one is the one I used for Netscape 4.77 on a potato
system that had been upgraded to woody. There was a
change made to Netscape between 4.75 and 4.77 (don't know which
way 4.76 goes) which made the old hack unworkable. This
one should do the trick.

I don't have Netscape installed anymore (I bought a new hd
and performed a fresh woody install) so I can't say for
certainty (yet) that it will work. I'll give it a try
shortly though.



Yep, it works. Not pretty, but it works.

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Re: Netscape vs Mozilla irritation

2002-06-26 Thread David P James

Helgi Örn wrote:
 Hi!

 I've seen this before on the list; people having problems
 starting old Netscape 4.* because Mozilla pops up
 instead. For us who have bank services that only accept
 the browsers MSIE and Netscape 4.* it is vital to have a
 functioning Netscape 4.*. Not being able to start it from
 a menu or with the commands netscape or communicator at a
 prompt can be very frustrating and irritating for someone
 who doesn't know of any other alternatives to start the
 program, finding the Netscape Communicator original bin
 file isn't easy in Debian. I use Mozilla a lot but I can
 live without it, Netscape 4.* I cannot live without as
 long as I use Linux and have a bank that doesn't accept
 any other browser. To me it is complete stupidity to let
 Mozilla take over the terms netscape and communicator as
 startup commands, why don't the Mozilla programmers
 change this? Or is this a Debian only problem?

 Cheers, Helgi Örn


Is Mozilla running when you try to start Netscape? I
remember having this problem as well when I tried to run
Netscape. I had to shut down Mozilla, purge any instances
and then start Netscape... I think it is because of the
similarity of the two applications that this happens.


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Re: Netscape vs Mozilla irritation

2002-06-26 Thread René Seindal
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 01:26:41PM +0200, Helgi Örn wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I've seen this before on the list; people having problems starting old
 Netscape 4.* because Mozilla pops up instead. For us who have bank

Run netscape as netscape --no-remote

 To me it is complete stupidity to let Mozilla take over the terms
 netscape and communicator as startup commands, why don't the Mozilla
 programmers change this? Or is this a Debian only problem?

Since mozilla in some ways is netscape5, netscape and mozilla use the
same protocol to communicate with an already running browser.  There is
no other way around than the above.


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Re: Netscape vs Mozilla irritation

2002-06-26 Thread Andrew Perrin
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, René Seindal wrote:

 
 Run netscape as netscape --no-remote

[snip]

 Since mozilla in some ways is netscape5, netscape and mozilla use the
 same protocol to communicate with an already running browser.  There is
 no other way around than the above.
 

Not true! If you install one in /usr/local you can run both independently
without problem. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ which netscape
/usr/bin/X11/netscape
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ which mozilla
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ netscape --version
Netscape 4.77/U.S., 26-Mar-01; (c) 1995-2000 Netscape Communications Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mozilla --version
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0rc1) Gecko/20020417, build
2002041711

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Re: Netscape vs Mozilla irritation

2002-06-26 Thread Helgi Örn
On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 15:20, David P James wrote:
 Is Mozilla running when you try to start Netscape?
Yes right now it was and I didn't want to shut it down.
 I
 remember having this problem as well when I tried to run
 Netscape. I had to shut down Mozilla, purge any instances
 and then start Netscape... I think it is because of the
 similarity of the two applications that this happens.
 
One cool way to get around this is:
$ /usr/lib/netscape/477/communicator/communicator-smotif -component-bar
I just put up a link with this that I can use if Mozilla is up.

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Re: Netscape vs Mozilla irritation

2002-06-26 Thread René Seindal
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 09:29:54AM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote:
 On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, René Seindal wrote:
 
  
  Run netscape as netscape --no-remote
 
 [snip]
 
  Since mozilla in some ways is netscape5, netscape and mozilla use the
  same protocol to communicate with an already running browser.  There is
  no other way around than the above.
  
 
 Not true! If you install one in /usr/local you can run both independently
 without problem. 

I too have both installed, but if I start mozilla first and then
netscape (without --no-remote), then the netscape wrapper script talks
to mozilla and it opens a new mozilla window.  With the --no-remote
option to the netscape wrapper script the test for an already running
netscape/mozilla is skipped and you get a new instance of netscape
started.

There is no problem in having both installed, and you can run both at
the same time too, but they can interfere with each other.

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Re: Netscape vs Mozilla irritation

2002-06-26 Thread Helgi Örn
On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 15:52, René Seindal wrote:
 
 I too have both installed, but if I start mozilla first and then
 netscape (without --no-remote), then the netscape wrapper script talks
 to mozilla and it opens a new mozilla window.  With the --no-remote
 option to the netscape wrapper script the test for an already running
 netscape/mozilla is skipped and you get a new instance of netscape
 started.
 
 There is no problem in having both installed, and you can run both at
 the same time too, but they can interfere with each other.
 
That's interesting. But what is -remote thing for and what for example
if I'd choose to put use_ns_remote=yes in the wrapper script to no?

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Re: Netscape scrollmouse

2002-06-26 Thread René Seindal
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 04:22:55PM +0200, Helgi Örn wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I've got an PS/2 MS Intellimouse that works very well except that the
 scroll-wheel doesn't work in Netscape 4.77. Can someone inform me how I
 can make that work in Woody?

You have to bind buttons 4 and 5 to the proper scrollup/down commands.

On my system there are examples in
/usr/share/doc/netscape-base-4/examples/netscape-base-4.Xresources for
doing this.


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Re: Netscape vs Mozilla irritation

2002-06-26 Thread René Seindal
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 04:17:46PM +0200, Helgi Örn wrote:
 On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 15:52, René Seindal wrote:
  
  I too have both installed, but if I start mozilla first and then
  netscape (without --no-remote), then the netscape wrapper script talks
  to mozilla and it opens a new mozilla window.  With the --no-remote
  option to the netscape wrapper script the test for an already running
  netscape/mozilla is skipped and you get a new instance of netscape
  started.
  
  There is no problem in having both installed, and you can run both at
  the same time too, but they can interfere with each other.
  
 That's interesting. But what is -remote thing for and what for example
 if I'd choose to put use_ns_remote=yes in the wrapper script to no?

Netscape is a rather large process, and by having the same process open
more windows a lot of memory is saved, compared to having different
processes with one window each.  There are also some problems about
updating bookmarks and other user profile data if several processes
change the data at the same time.

The remote protocol solves that problem.  Even if you call netscape
another time, you still reuse the same process and hence save memory.



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Re: Netscape scrollmouse

2002-06-26 Thread Harold Bibik
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 04:22:55PM +0200, Helgi Örn wrote something like this:

 I've got an PS/2 MS Intellimouse that works very well except that the
 scroll-wheel doesn't work in Netscape 4.77. Can someone inform me how I
 can make that work in Woody?

Check out

http://koala.ilog.fr/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/#netscape


all the info you need is there.




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Re: Netscape scrollmouse

2002-06-26 Thread nate
quote who=Helgi Örn
 Hi!

 I've got an PS/2 MS Intellimouse that works very well except that the
 scroll-wheel doesn't work in Netscape 4.77. Can someone inform me how I
 can make that work in Woody?

i use imwheel, there are other ways to use a wheel though
i think in X4 ..imwheel works for me .(even under X 3.3.x)

to use it i set my mouse protocol to IMPS/2 and set ZAxismapping 4 5
as well.

then i just run 'imwheel'.

you can customize it, i haven't ever looked into customizing it though.
imwheel apparently just translates mousemovements up and down to
page up and page down

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Re: Netscape scrollmouse

2002-06-26 Thread Helgi Örn
On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 19:46, nate wrote:
 i use imwheel, there are other ways to use a wheel though
 i think in X4 ..imwheel works for me .(even under X 3.3.x)
 
 to use it i set my mouse protocol to IMPS/2 and set ZAxismapping 4 5
 as well.
 
 then i just run 'imwheel'.
 
 you can customize it, i haven't ever looked into customizing it though.
 imwheel apparently just translates mousemovements up and down to
 page up and page down

Thank's for your reply.
 
With a PS/2 MS Intellimouse and XF86 4.* imwheel is not needed. The
problem is not the mouse or the mousedriver, it runs perfectly well on
all applications I use in Woody except Netscape 4.77. The problem
therefore has to do with Netscape 4.* and/or its config files.

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