Re: Apt-get Kde
primeiro, nao mande e-mail html segundo, nao inicie uma nova linha de discussao respondendo um e-mail de uma outra linha. Senao voce mistura as coisas. Dê uma olhada em http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-portuguese/2004/05/msg01176.html e você vai ver que nas respostas ao assunto do squid ficou a linha que voce criou sobre kde. Inclusive esta minha mensagem agora tambem vai para la... __ Yahoo! Messenger - Fale com seus amigos online. Instale agora! http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/
Re: Apt-get Kde
Antes de mais nada, KDE fede, Gnome detona ! ;-) hehe Você não esqueceu de dar o apt-get update antes né ? Verifique tambem se esta tudo ok no arquivo /etc/apt/sources.list (fontes que o apt-get irá usar). Da pra instalar a parte grafica tambem usando o tasksel, mas eu nao recomendo. Outra coisa, não sei se funciona direito no KDE, mas no Gnome eu nunca uso apt-get install gnome mas sim apt-get install gnome-core. Que instala apenas o basico do sistema, sem muita frescura. Fazendo uma instalacao mais limpa e deixando o sistema mais rapido (sem perder a praticidade e customizacao do Gnome). Acredito que funcione tambem com o kde, usando o comando apt-get install kde-core. Boa sorte, MD marcio souza wrote: Instalei o Debian lah em casa e fui instalar o kde /*apt-get kde*/ ou */apt-get install kde/* nesse ultimo a instalaçao comeca e depois da primeira confirmar~cao para continuar, eu preciono enter e naum passa de 0%, e fica repetindo as frases ...sera q fiz algo errado na inslacao...tem como instalar a parte grafica de outra forma pelo terminal.: Marcio Souza
Re: Apt-get Kde
Em Friday 21 May 2004 13:33, marcio souza escreveu: Instalei o Debian lah em casa e fui instalar o kde apt-get kde ou apt-get install kde nesse ultimo a instalaçao comeca e depois da primeira confirmar~cao para continuar, eu preciono enter e naum passa de 0%, e fica repetindo as frases ...sera q fiz algo errado na inslacao...tem como instalar a parte grafica de outra forma pelo terminal.: qual repositorio esta na sua /etc/sources.list ? a sua conexao com a internet esta connfigurada ? -- Felipe de Fraga Roman ACS / Publicidade e Comunicacao Online ULBRA - Universidade Luterana do Brasil UIN: 43399880 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get kde 3.2 problem with testing
You can try apt-get install kde=3.2.1-whatever '=' allows you to specify version number. BTW, I updated to KDE 3.2 with sid sources, does really Sarge have KDE 3.2? Regards El Sábado, 3 de Abril de 2004 22:11, Reetinder P. S. Sidhu escribió: Hi I'm trying to upgrade from kde 3.1.5 to 3.2 by adding deb http://www.debian-desktop.org/pub/linux/debian/kde3.2 sarge main While apt-cache show kdebase finds 2 packages with above version numbers, apt-get install kde/kdebase/kde-core insists that the newset version is installed. Any help wiil be appreciated. Regards Sidhu
Re: apt-get kde 3.2 problem with testing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 03 April 2004 11:11 am, Reetinder P. S. Sidhu wrote: Hi I'm trying to upgrade from kde 3.1.5 to 3.2 by adding deb http://www.debian-desktop.org/pub/linux/debian/kde3.2 sarge main While apt-cache show kdebase finds 2 packages with above version numbers, apt-get install kde/kdebase/kde-core insists that the newset version is installed. Any help wiil be appreciated. Regards Sidhu It looks like that source does not have the meta-packages you are trying to install. You would have to install each package separately. - -- Greg Madden Debian GNU/Linux user -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAbyEok7rtxKWZzGsRAiM2AKCrOq+yPbRJRhA87qGE9z9AdGdYKwCg2M1h 5Hpzjm9iT0ZkNJoejlBGkKk= =Z8Il -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: apt-get kde 3.2 problem with testing
Bokeron wrote: Please don't top post. BTW, I updated to KDE 3.2 with sid sources, does really Sarge have KDE 3.2? No. The original poster said he was installing from a contributed source from http://www.debian-desktop.org. Regards El Sábado, 3 de Abril de 2004 22:11, Reetinder P. S. Sidhu escribió: I'm trying to upgrade from kde 3.1.5 to 3.2 by adding deb http://www.debian-desktop.org/pub/linux/debian/kde3.2 sarge main Instead of doing that I recommend using this instead. deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.2/Debian stable main While apt-cache show kdebase finds 2 packages with above version numbers, apt-get install kde/kdebase/kde-core insists that the newset version is installed. You are seeing a duplication of packages between debian.org and debian-desktop.org. Try using apt-cache policy and seeing what it tells you. It should show you the paths. apt-cache policy kdebase Bob pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apt-get kde 3.2 problem with testing
Hi Sidhu, KDE 3.2 is part of KDE unstable and I use sarge/testing with 'pinning' to allow for some unstable packages while keeping most of the system based around sarge. # more /etc/apt/preferences Package: * Pin: release o=Debian,a=stable Pin-Priority: 900 Package: * Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing Pin-Priority: 600 Package: * Pin: release o=Debian,a=unstable Pin-Priority: 300 Edit your apt sources then do apt-get update, and apt-get install on just the kde packages you want. Or you could simply wait for KDE 3.2 to enter testing. Regards, Dale. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get, KDE, and gnomemeeting
Hi Donald, Thanks for explaining the apt-get dist-upgrade problem, now I get it! I appreciate your being patient and detailed... it really clarified things for me. And for your words of encouragement for asking questions and offering advice when I think I know an answer. I'm definitely very grateful for all the advice I've received here and elsewhere, and will be happy to (try to) return the favor to the next set of newbies. :-) Cheers! Lori __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get, KDE, and gnomemeeting
sport woman wrote: Hi, I'm trying to run gnomemeeting(version greater than 0.12) and Debian KDE at the same time, but when I try to upgrade gnomemeeting (I only find upgrades from USA/unstable), I get (from apt-get install) a message saying that in order to do this, it has to get rid of KDE. (I'm running the 2.4.18 Linux kernel with Debian, and my /etc/apt/sources.list started with only stable but now I have done a 'dist-upgrade' to testing). I am using the 'apt-get' instructions from http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html (section 3.8) for a mixed system... so now my /etc/apt/sources.list has a source for unstable debian packages. (I need the unstable for gnomemeeting.) I had thought that using 'apt-get -t unstable install gnomemeeting' should pull all necessary packages that would need to be upgraded (including KDE)...however instead KDE would be removed, when I try this command. If someone could please clarify the problem for me, I would appreciate it. (I am not using apt pinning, instead I am attempting to maintain a mixed system.) According to the debian bug-fix maintainer for gnomemeeting, I definitely should be able to use gnomemeeting 0.96 with KDE 3.1 I don't want to bother him anymore with my questions, especially since he directed that I should ask any further questions of this email list (and previously, the gnomemeeting mailing list, actually the gnomemeeting author himself, had directed me to take my question to Jose Carlos). Thank you for any clarification, Lori If I try to upgrade to any GNOME packages in unstable for the last few weeks, I get the same thing... it wants to remove my KDE 2.2.2 install completely! I am fairly sure this is due to the transition to the use of the gcc 3.2 compiler in unstable. Most of the apps in unstable are being compiled aginst the newer compiler, and I suspect GNOMEMEETING has been too from the results you are getting. The problem seems to be in a small portion of the new compiler (the C++ portion) that isn't compatable with the 2.95 compiler used in stable and testing currently. You have a couple of choices here depending upon your needs. 1. You can wait until the transition to the new compiler is complete and it filters into testing as the standard compiler. When this happens, chances are a LOT of apps from unstable will flow into testing, including GNOMEMeeting. My sense is that this will probably take a while... several months before it all settles out. 2. You can d/l the source and compile it against the 2.95 version compiler you have currently installed. Dunno if this will work or not, but is worth a try IF you have an urgent need. Be prepared to do some trouble-shooting! Otherwise, you will have to wait for the system to do its thing. I guess a third choice would be to upgrade to a SID system completely, but you have to risk the chances of breakage due to the constant state of change. KDE 3.1 is starting to flow into SID (unstable) but isn't completely there yet. I have been waiting to see a few more packages appear before I make the leap from KDE 2.2.2 to KDE 3.1. These are perilous times... grin HTH, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get, KDE, and gnomemeeting
Hi Donald, Thanks for letting me know that I'm not the only one having this problem! Your solution of trying to compile the application from the source myself is one I'll try. I guess a third choice would be to upgrade to a SID system completely, but you have to risk the chances of breakage due to the constant state of change. KDE 3.1 is starting to flow into SID(unstable) but isn't completely there yet. Hmmm, I guess I don't understand 'apt-get install' as well as I had thought! My impression had been that it would automatically pull all needed packages with the one you 'apt-get install' for. (So when I did 'apt-get install gnomemeeting', using unstable for the sources.list, I had expected KDE3.1 to be pulled in with the gnomemeeting 0.96., since the gnomemeeting bug-tracker for Debian had said if I went to all unstable then both would work together.) Are you saying that the 'apt-get install' would not pull in KDE3.1, but that an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to unstable would have? Or maybe you're saying that right now, 'apt-get install gnomemeeting' for 0.96 OR 'apt-get dist-upgrade' for unstable would NOT allow me to retain KDE3.1, but sometime in the future unstable will have a complete KDE3.1 and *then* another 'apt-get dist-upgrade' will give me KDE again... Sorry for my slowness to understand on this point, I'm a newbie trying to learn as fast as I can! :-) Thanks again for your earlier reply, Lori __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get, KDE, and gnomemeeting
sport woman wrote: Hi Donald, Thanks for letting me know that I'm not the only one having this problem! Your solution of trying to compile the application from the source myself is one I'll try. You have more courage than I! I am not as comfortable with back-porting as others. I generally limit my compiling to kernels and the few small source tarballs I want/need. If I run into a roadblock during the compile, I usually don't have the mental horsepower to solve it. I guess a third choice would be to upgrade to a SID system completely, but you have to risk the chances of breakage due to the constant state of change. KDE 3.1 is starting to flow into SID(unstable) but isn't completely there yet. Hmmm, I guess I don't understand 'apt-get install' as well as I had thought! My impression had been that it would automatically pull all needed packages with the one you 'apt-get install' for. (So when I did 'apt-get install gnomemeeting', using unstable for the sources.list, I had expected KDE3.1 to be pulled in with the gnomemeeting 0.96., since the gnomemeeting bug-tracker for Debian had said if I went to all unstable then both would work together.) Are you saying that the 'apt-get install' would not pull in KDE3.1, but that an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to unstable would have? No, not quite. This is tough for me to explain, but here goes If the ONLY source line in your /etc/apt/sources.list is for unstable then an apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade should do a complete upgrade to the current SID or unstable. This may or may not go smoothly, and you will only get whatever packages that are in unstable that are the upgrades of your current set of packages. You will get all of the new KDE 3.1 packages that are available, but probably will not upgrade all of the packages you have on your system. Those not upgraded may or may not run, depending on the conflicts with the new compiler libraries. This could be a dangerous thing to do, but you never know exactly how dangerous until you try it. It is sort of a catch-22. Most people who run SID know how to get out of these situations, but it can be a quite frustrating situation for a newbie. Now if you have set up pinning in APT, then you will have two (or more) sources...usually testing and unstable. Pinning will allow you to pull from either one if you specify a package, but for general commands like apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade then the action will be first for the primary dist you setup in pinning and second for any outside dist packages you might have pulled in from the secondary source. I.E. if you pulled in Mozilla from unstable then an apt-get dist-upgrade will automatically pull-in upgrades for Mozilla from unstable, but NOT the entire dist. The rest of the dist-upgrade will be done on only the testing packages installed on your system... provided you have testing as your primary source and unstable as your secondary source. Does this make sense? Or maybe you're saying that right now, 'apt-get install gnomemeeting' for 0.96 OR 'apt-get dist-upgrade' for unstable would NOT allow me to retain KDE3.1, but sometime in the future unstable will have a complete KDE3.1 and *then* another 'apt-get dist-upgrade' will give me KDE again... H... I doubt you have KDE 3.1 from unstable currently installed. You shouldn't be having GNOMEMEETING trying to remove KDE if it was. You probably have KDE 2.2.2 from testing installed, and that is why GNOMEMeeting wants to remove it. It is probably not a direct relationship, but is the end result due to some conflicts among some lower-level dependencies, like the compiler. What I am trying to say is that at some point in the future ALL (Most) of the packages in SID will become good enough to move into testing, including the new compiler and KDE 3.1, and GNOME 2.2, and the version of GNOMEMeeting you want. This will have to happen sometime before the next major release of Debian...SARGE. When will it all happen? Dunno...but my sense is that reaching that state of affairs is several months off. In the meantime there will be quite a bit of turbulence. Sorry for my slowness to understand on this point, I'm a newbie trying to learn as fast as I can! :-) Almost everybody learns faster than I do grin. Some day quite soon you will be teaching me... no doubt about it. Keep asking questions, and give advice to others when you can. I have discovered that the real gurus are pretty quick to correct a mis-representation of the facts. If you can gracefully, AND gratefully accept correction, it is an excellent way to learn! Don't be afraid of saying something that might be wrong! They won't let it stand for long if it is;) Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get, KDE, and gnomemeeting
On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 17:04, sport woman wrote: Hi, I'm trying to run gnomemeeting(version greater than 0.12) and Debian KDE at the same time, but when I try to upgrade gnomemeeting (I only find upgrades from USA/unstable), I get (from apt-get install) a message saying that in order to do this, it has to get rid of KDE. (I'm running the 2.4.18 Linux kernel with Debian, and my /etc/apt/sources.list started with only stable but now I have done a 'dist-upgrade' to testing). I am using the 'apt-get' instructions from http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html (section 3.8) for a mixed system... so now my /etc/apt/sources.list has a source for unstable debian packages. (I need the unstable for gnomemeeting.) I had thought that using 'apt-get -t unstable install gnomemeeting' should pull all necessary packages that would need to be upgraded (including KDE)...however instead KDE would be removed, when I try this command. If someone could please clarify the problem for me, I would appreciate it. (I am not using apt pinning, instead I am attempting to maintain a mixed system.) According to the debian bug-fix maintainer for gnomemeeting, I definitely should be able to use gnomemeeting 0.96 with KDE 3.1 I don't want to bother him anymore with my questions, especially since he directed that I should ask any further questions of this email list (and previously, the gnomemeeting mailing list, actually the gnomemeeting author himself, had directed me to take my question to Jose Carlos). Thank you for any clarification, Lori -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:45:51 +0100 From: Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lori Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: gnomemeeting 0.96 bug On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 09:58:09AM -0800, Lori Flynn wrote: Hi Jose Carlos, I'm sorry for bothering you. I asked on the gnomemeeting webpage and the gnomemeeting author wrote me, as below, and Damien Sandras said to report my problem as a bug. snip As I see you're trying to get gnomemeeting from unstable, but using KDE from stable at the same time. For doing that, you need to use apt pinning [1] but as we're doing a gcc transition in unstable, which means ABI changes, you can face some nasty errors when doing this (mostly in KDE as it's a C++ program, which are affected by ABI changes) If you want to move to unstable you have to issue some commands [2] before installing gnomemeeting. I'm sure you'll face some minor problem, because upgrading from stable to unstable is not tested. For more info about how to do this, you should write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you find another problem, please, let me know. [1] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-pin and man apt.conf [2] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-dist-upgrade __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ This has to do with the fact that much in Unstable is built with GCC 3.2, including certain libraries that GnomeMeeting is using. Unfortunately, the version of these libraries is incompatible with KDE 2.2 and AFAIK, won't be made compatible. KDE 3.1 is in the process of arriving in Unstable, but there are parts not there yet. I also understand that the backport of KDE to Woody is no more of a help as it is not compiled with the newer GCC, and so will prove just as incompatible. There is the option of building your own package from source for GnomeMeeting, although that likely is going to require bringing in various libraries as well. -- Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: apt-get KDE?
Add this to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato kde contrib rkrusty -- Eric G. Miller Powered by the POTATO (http://www.debian.org)!
Re: apt-get KDE?
I wonder if http://kde.tdyc.com is down now. Add this to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato kde contrib rkrusty -- Takanori Suzuki E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: apt-get KDE?
I wonder if http://kde.tdyc.com is down now. When I did an apt-get update with that added, it wasn't able to connect to the server. I hope the site will be back up soon because Gnome has given me problems and is doing the same right now. I've never had a single problem with KDE. Does anyone know, though, why none of KDE's FTP sites have the kde-installer program for the DEB packages while the same FTP site has it in the RPM package? What am I supposed to do if the installer isn't available? Anyways, I'm really hoping that apt-get site for KDE will work so I won't have to deal with this. -- Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:4982727 B Grafyx http://www.bgrafyx.com L.J.R. Engineering http://www.ljreng.com PHP Interest Group http://www.gigabee.com/pig/
RE: apt-get KDE?
No, you don't need the installer. That's why we have debs... tdyc has everything you need, so just be patient, and I'm sure it'll be back up soon. -Brad On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, B. Szyszka wrote: I wonder if http://kde.tdyc.com is down now. When I did an apt-get update with that added, it wasn't able to connect to the server. I hope the site will be back up soon because Gnome has given me problems and is doing the same right now. I've never had a single problem with KDE. Does anyone know, though, why none of KDE's FTP sites have the kde-installer program for the DEB packages while the same FTP site has it in the RPM package? What am I supposed to do if the installer isn't available? Anyways, I'm really hoping that apt-get site for KDE will work so I won't have to deal with this. -- Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:4982727 B Grafyx http://www.bgrafyx.com L.J.R. Engineering http://www.ljreng.com PHP Interest Group http://www.gigabee.com/pig/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: apt-get KDE?
Add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list (or replace slink with potato if that's what your using): deb http://kde.tdyc.com slink kde contrib rkrusty rgds-- TA ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I don't speak for the Federal Reserve Board, it doesn't speak for me.
RE: apt-get KDE?
Add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list (or replace slink with potato if that's what your using): deb http://kde.tdyc.com slink kde contrib rkrusty When I did that and ran apt-get update, it couldn't connect to that server. Are there any other apt sources I can use? Also, how come none of the FTP sites listed at KDE's web site have a DEB package for the kde installer program? They have all the other packages except the one that I'd need to get the ball rolling. : ) -- Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:4982727 B Grafyx http://www.bgrafyx.com L.J.R. Engineering http://www.ljreng.com PHP Interest Group http://www.gigabee.com/pig/