Re: Benefits of using aptitude
On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 03:31:28PM -0400, Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: I actually keep wondering why apt-get and aptitude are not merged into one (it looks like it good almost be done by just renaming aptitude to apt-get). Mainly because aptitude is not apt-get. I'm glad that people enjoy the command-line interface to aptitude, but the command-line mode is not aptitude's raison d'etre and is about 1/10th of the code tree by line count. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Benefits of using aptitude
Still, if you're used to apt-get, I don't really see a reason to switch. I always recommend aptitude, but never tell users to switch from apt-get on a running system. If I should, please let me know the reasons. The biggest benefit (at least until the new apt) would be the automatic removal of dependencies. Otherwise the TUI is quite useful sometimes, (especially when browsing for new packages), the search patterns, ... I actually keep wondering why apt-get and aptitude are not merged into one (it looks like it good almost be done by just renaming aptitude to apt-get). Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Benefits of using aptitude
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 07:10:17AM +, Silke Suck wrote: Still, if you're used to apt-get, I don't really see a reason to switch. I always recommend aptitude, but never tell users to switch from apt-get on a running system. If I should, please let me know the reasons. The biggest benefit (at least until the new apt) would be the automatic removal of dependencies. Otherwise the TUI is quite useful sometimes, (especially when browsing for new packages), the search patterns, ... I second the bigness of the removal of deps benefit. I also like the historical record in /var/log/aptitude, the integrated apt-cache features, and the perhaps mistaken perception that aptitude seems to be better able to resolve conflicts when they occur. I also like that it has two UI's: both are often handy. Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Benefits of using aptitude
On Wednesday 18 July 2007 21:31:28 Stefan Monnier wrote: Still, if you're used to apt-get, I don't really see a reason to switch. I always recommend aptitude, but never tell users to switch from apt-get on a running system. If I should, please let me know the reasons. The biggest benefit (at least until the new apt) would be the automatic removal of dependencies. Otherwise the TUI is quite useful sometimes, (especially when browsing for new packages), the search patterns, ... I actually keep wondering why apt-get and aptitude are not merged into one (it looks like it good almost be done by just renaming aptitude to apt-get). No! Please don't recommend doing that. While aptitude and apt-get are both front ends for dpkg, they are quite different in how they operate. Sure, aptitude will accept many of the same paramaters as apt-get, but it's dependency handling is quite different. If one uses only aptitude, there is no problem, but if one mixes the two commands, then aptitude will eventually get confused and want to remove vital components. What is worse, is that when running Sid, aptitude gets confused on packages disappearing, or being renamed. It's recoverable, but a royal PITA when having to deal with the problem. This point is of course irrelavent if one is running Etch. With Lenny, it's somewhat relavent. Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Benefits of using aptitude
Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If one uses only aptitude, there is no problem, but if one mixes the two commands, then aptitude will eventually get confused and want to remove vital components. As said before in the original thread, this problem should be solved by now. If you still encounter problems please do file a bug. Daniel Burrows (the maintainer) is very responsive AFAICT. Regards, Andrei signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Benefits of using aptitude
Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually keep wondering why apt-get and aptitude are not merged into one (it looks like it good almost be done by just renaming aptitude to apt-get). See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/06/msg00379.html and the entire thread. Very interesting. Besides, aptitude does not implement some of apt-get's functions (source, build-depends, ...). In my understanding, the devs (of APT and aptitude) are going towards moving all advanced functions into APT so all frontends (synaptic, adept, ...) can take advantage of them. Regards, Andrei signature.asc Description: PGP signature
