Re: Mozilla fonts

2003-12-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
I think my fonts are screwed up in Mozilla 1.0.0...

Under Preferences  Appearance  Fonts, everything is set to Agfa 
Monotype-andale mono-iso8859-1 and Slashdot renders in full monospace.

What does everyone else's fonts section have by default? I'm using 
Mozilla 1.0.0 from a .mozilla generated with 1.5, so that might have 
screwed things up on my end.

Thanks in advance.


My experience is in order to get fonts right you start out with a new 
.mozilla dir, i.e. wipe out the old one and let him begin anew, unless 
you have a dir that works right.
What is shown depends on whether you have TTF enabled or not and other 
factors that only the cognoscendi are familiar with ;-)

Hugo.

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Re: Mozilla fonts

2003-12-23 Thread Marc Wilson
On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 02:41:02PM -0600, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
 Under Preferences  Appearance  Fonts, everything is set to Agfa 
 Monotype-andale mono-iso8859-1 and Slashdot renders in full monospace.

Uhhh... Andale Mono *is* a monospace font.  Exactly what do you expect to
be happening here?

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Re: Mozilla fonts

2003-12-23 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Marc Wilson wrote:
On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 02:41:02PM -0600, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:

Under Preferences  Appearance  Fonts, everything is set to Agfa 
Monotype-andale mono-iso8859-1 and Slashdot renders in full monospace.


Uhhh... Andale Mono *is* a monospace font.  Exactly what do you expect to
be happening here?
Sorry, the question was what the Mozilla default fonts should be set to. 
Mine were all set to the same thing (andale mono) because of versioning 
problems, and I wanted to know what Mozilla's defaults were.

I moved my .mozilla and started it up again, looked at the font 
configuration, then copied my .mozilla back and set the same options. 
Worked like a charm.

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Re: Mozilla fonts

2003-09-15 Thread Ashish Ariga

On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 19:20, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
 The newer mozillas, e.g. Sid's mozilla-snapshot, have 'default'
 fonts which I rather like (of course, 'there is no accounting for
 tastes'). In the Preferences menu, the serif font is just called
 'serif', the monospace font is called 'monospace'.
 
 I found that (at least on my system) these are in reality all
 Bitstream Vera fonts. My first question is: is this something
 determined by Mozilla, or is it specific to my system because I
 somehow (unwittingly) set it up this way? Anyway, I rather like
 these fonts and would like to use them also for printing.

Turns out that Mozilla and a bunch of other GNOME/GTK2 apps use fonts
that are configured via some fontconfig. (I don't know much about it.) 
fc-list reports fonts that are available through fontconfig.
Ensure that the path where you installed the fonts are listed in
/etc/fonts/fonts.conf
Also, KDE apps take fonts from ~/.kde/share/fonts


I wish someone could elaborate on the mystery of fonts.


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Re: Mozilla fonts (resolved ?)

2003-09-15 Thread Ashish Ariga
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 13:29, Ashish Ariga wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 19:20, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
  The newer mozillas, e.g. Sid's mozilla-snapshot, have 'default'
  fonts which I rather like (of course, 'there is no accounting for
  tastes'). In the Preferences menu, the serif font is just called
  'serif', the monospace font is called 'monospace'.
  
  I found that (at least on my system) these are in reality all
  Bitstream Vera fonts. My first question is: is this something
  determined by Mozilla, or is it specific to my system because I
  somehow (unwittingly) set it up this way? Anyway, I rather like
  these fonts and would like to use them also for printing.
 
 Turns out that Mozilla and a bunch of other GNOME/GTK2 apps use fonts
 that are configured via some fontconfig. (I don't know much about it.) 
 fc-list reports fonts that are available through fontconfig.
 Ensure that the path where you installed the fonts are listed in
 /etc/fonts/fonts.conf
 Also, KDE apps take fonts from ~/.kde/share/fonts
 
 
 I wish someone could elaborate on the mystery of fonts.


This is what I found, maybe it helps.
See Note: on Page 4 of
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/pdf/rhl-relnotes-x86-en-9.pdf



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Re: Re: Mozilla fonts

2003-09-15 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Ashish Ariga wrote:

 Turns out that Mozilla and a bunch of other GNOME/GTK2 apps use
 fonts that are configured via some fontconfig. (I don't know
 much about it.)
 fc-list reports fonts that are available through fontconfig.
 Ensure that the path where you installed the fonts are listed in
 /etc/fonts/fonts.conf
 Also, KDE apps take fonts from ~/.kde/share/fonts

This is correct. Your answer helped me to find the solution to the
first problem (where the default display font for Mozilla is
set): /etc/fonts/fonts.conf makes, e.g., Bitstream Vera Sans Mono
the preferred synonym for monospace:

alias
   familymonospace/family
   prefer
   familyBitstream Vera Sans Mono/family
   familyAndale Mono/family
   familyCourier New/family
   familyLuxi Mono/family
   familyNimbus Mono L/family
   familyKochi Gothic/family
   familyAR PL KaitiM GB/family
   familyBaekmuk Dotum/family
   /prefer
/alias

So, I suppose that if you don´t have Bitstream Vera Sans Mono,
Andale Mono will be chosen, etc.

This can be overridden by /etc/fonts/local.conf. When I put in there:

alias
familymonospace/family
preferfamilyCourier New/family/prefer
/alias

Moz´s default monospace font became, indeed, Courier New.

This is very neat but not every application uses this.

The second problem was the Mozilla print font. From a strings on
the mozilla file libgfxps.so I gather that Times-Roman, Helvetica,
and Courier are hard-wired into the Mozilla Postscript module. If
this is so then we can forget about changing the print font
easily. It seems that xprint can be used instead of the default
Postscript module, and can produce prints as displayed. That
seems even neater but so far I´ve not been able to get xprint to
work. It says it starts; when I re-start it, it says it´s already
running; but it does not show up with ps.

Fonts seem very mysterious indeed. I wish I could find a way to
produce better fonts with gtk1 apps.. for qt apps there is a
program called qtconfig that works very well, but something like
that for gtk apps does not seem to exist.

Regards, Jan




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Re: Mozilla fonts

2002-06-15 Thread Ross Boylan
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 10:42:46AM -0400, Travis Crump wrote:
 
 
 Ross Boylan wrote:
 I was playing around with fonts on Mozilla today, and noticed a number
 of odd things.  I'd be curious if anyone can explain a bit more about
 what is going on.
 
 1. I can't find anything that controls the fonts used in the browser
 menu bar and menus.  It looks as if the same font may be used on
 displayed pages too, for example as the value of a button (e.g., Go
 To Download Page button on the bottom of Debian package pages).
 The font I'm getting is not too legible.
 
 
 Fonts in the menu bar and menus are controlled by your gtk theme. 
 Either change it with the Gnome Control Center or since you are using 
 KDE, edit ~/.gtkrc.  Mine has:
 
 style user-font
 {
   fontset=-ttf-times new roman-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
 }
 widget_class * style user-font
 
 Individually the fonts for the different widgets can be individually 
 controlled with userChrome.css, but that is more complicated.
 

Beautiful!  That's what I needed.  I have slightly different names and
intentions:
-monotype-times new roman-medium-r-normal-*-15-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1

Thanks.  That's *much* better.


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Re: Mozilla fonts

2002-06-14 Thread Travis Crump



Ross Boylan wrote:

I was playing around with fonts on Mozilla today, and noticed a number
of odd things.  I'd be curious if anyone can explain a bit more about
what is going on.

1. I can't find anything that controls the fonts used in the browser
menu bar and menus.  It looks as if the same font may be used on
displayed pages too, for example as the value of a button (e.g., Go
To Download Page button on the bottom of Debian package pages).
The font I'm getting is not too legible.



Fonts in the menu bar and menus are controlled by your gtk theme. 
Either change it with the Gnome Control Center or since you are using 
KDE, edit ~/.gtkrc.  Mine has:


style user-font
{
  fontset=-ttf-times new roman-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
}
widget_class * style user-font

Individually the fonts for the different widgets can be individually 
controlled with userChrome.css, but that is more complicated.



3. enabling_truetype.html in the package documentation describes how
to enable true type, but I think one of the Debian preferences already
has it enabled.  At any rate I edited the indicated file, and it's
definitely working now.  I'm not sure what order all the *.js files
gets parsed, or if the first or last setting of an option wins.
Anybody know?

I think the order is mozilla's internal *.js - /etc/mozilla/prefs.js - 
prefs.js in profile - user.js in profile with later files' preferences 
overriding any preferences that were set earlier, but I could be wrong.




P.S. The Mozilla docs refer to user.js for preferences, but there
doesn't seem to be any such file.  I've just been editing prefs.js.



user.js can be created in the same directory as prefs.js.  The 
advantages to user.js are that mozilla never writes to it so it can be 
edited with mozilla open and also since mozilla doesn't write to it it 
is much more manageable since it has less preferences in it than 
prefs.js.  The disadvantage is that deleting a preference from user.js 
probably won't actually delete it since mozilla has probably added the 
preference to prefs.js so you instead have to change the value or remove 
it from prefs.js as well.



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Re: Mozilla fonts huge--'File' menu item takes up most of screen

2002-01-18 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Joseph Dane  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Daniel == Daniel Farnsworth Teichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Daniel When I start up Mozilla, the fonts are *huge*. I'm running at
 Daniel 1600x1200, and the 'File' menu item takes up the majority of
 Daniel the screen (nice scaling, by the way--not a bit blocky : ).

no help here, but I'm getting the same behavior. this started after a
recent unstable dist-upgrade.  mozilla is at 0.9.7-4.

If you have TrueType fonts defined in the Files section of
/etc/X11/XF86Config[-4] then it might help to put them last.

Also setting the display resolution in the fonts menu in mozilla
manually instead of system/automatic might help. Do restart mozilla
after that.

No idea *why* this would help but it works for me ..

Mike.



Re: Mozilla fonts huge--'File' menu item takes up most of screen

2002-01-17 Thread Joseph Dane
 Daniel == Daniel Farnsworth Teichert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Daniel When I start up Mozilla, the fonts are *huge*. I'm running at
 Daniel 1600x1200, and the 'File' menu item takes up the majority of
 Daniel the screen (nice scaling, by the way--not a bit blocky : ).

no help here, but I'm getting the same behavior. this started after a
recent unstable dist-upgrade.  mozilla is at 0.9.7-4.

it was pleasant at first to see well scaled fonts taking up half my
screen.  it became annoying quickly, though.

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Re: mozilla fonts giant-sized

2001-08-14 Thread Ross Boylan
Despite my having done nothing, appearance is back to normal.

(I did lots of things yesterday, but none of them had any effect.
I've since shut down and restarted the computer.  I also forgot to
mention that immediately before the unpleasantness I installed
realplayer.)

Weird.

On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 07:12:37PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote:
 I recently installed mozilla 0.9.3.1 on woody.  It was working OK,
 though a bit crash prone.
 
 Now when I start it the controls are absolutely enormous: for example,
 3 lines of a drop down menu fills the screen, and the window is many
 times wider than my monitor. 
 
 Shortly before this I set my default home page to blank.  I also
 logged off and shut the system down with mozilla running.
 
 I've also noticed it starts quite slowly, and appears to have some
 conflict with squeak (over sound?) so that sometimes I must close
 squeak to get mozilla to launch.
 
 Has anyone experienced similar problems, or have any suggestions for
 fixing them?  I tried to manipulate the preferences, but because of
 the sizes I wasn't' successful.
 
 Thanks.