Re: Printer Recommendation Requested

2002-06-19 Thread csj
On 18 Jun 2002 18:08:00 -0400
Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I've also searched for past recommendations.  The webpage
   seems to push Epson C80 the most.  I've seen some complaints
   of reliability for other Epson models, but nothing specifically
   for the C80.
   
   Any recent experience with these (or other) printers (and info
   about where to buy them)?  I'm running potato, and using the
   parallel connector for printing.
   
  Mike,
  I can recommend the Epson C80 from personal experience.  I use it on
  both Debian and RedHat with CUPS the CUPS drivers gimp-print.

I will second this. The Epson C80 comes with both USB and, in case you
don't want to monkey with that, parallel port interfaces. The cartridges
use what appear to be archival-quality pigmented inks, including the
color inks, which come in separate cartridges. Unlike the inks used in
most inkjets, which bleed at the first raindrop, the inks used in the
Epson C80 are fairly waterproof. I've submerged a plain-paper printout
in a tub of water overnight with no apparent loss in visual quality. You
should however check out the price of the cartridges before buying. They
tend to be expensive.

Epson also happens to be one company that produces Linux drivers that
approximate the quality of their Windows and Mac drivers.


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Re: Printer Recommendation Requested

2002-06-18 Thread Neal
On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 17:03, Mike Fontenot wrote:
 
 I've got a Lexmark Optra Ep that just died, and
 I need to replace it.  I've read the linuxprinting.org
 web page, and that has helped some, but I don't see
 many of their recommendations in the mail-order catalogs
 that I've got.
 
 My wife has been bugging me to get a color printer anyway,
 so I guess I'll need to go with an inkjet.  But I've thought
 the cost/page of the Lexmark is already bad, so I'll
 probably be horrified with the operating costs of an inkjet.
 
 I've been using CUPS with the Optra Ep, and it's been working
 pretty well.  I've liked having the built-in postscript.
 
 Is postscript not a factor on the inkjet printers?  (I don't
 think postscript is mentioned in the inkjet section of the
 linuxprinting.org webpage).
 
 I've also searched for past recommendations.  The webpage
 seems to push Epson C80 the most.  I've seen some complaints
 of reliability for other Epson models, but nothing specifically
 for the C80.
 
 Any recent experience with these (or other) printers (and info
 about where to buy them)?  I'm running potato, and using the
 parallel connector for printing.
 
Mike,
I can recommend the Epson C80 from personal experience.  I use it on
both Debian and RedHat with CUPS the CUPS drivers gimp-print. 

p.s.
I retired my Epson Stylus 900 after 4 years of faithful service when the
ink jets would no longer clean properly.
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Neal
Registered Linux User #159445
Libranet 2.0/ext3  XFce on Athlon800 desktop
RedHat 7.3/ext3  XFce on Toshiba 2140XCDS laptop


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Re: Printer Recommendation Requested

2002-06-18 Thread Jameson C. Burt
The Lexmark Optra Color 45 inkjet has postscript and you can even get a
network card included, but it costs about $1100.
This is one of the very few postscript inkjet printers.

All inkjet manufacturers make exorbitant profits 
off their ensuing ink sales,
legally designing their cartridges to attempt maintaining 
a monopoly, though court cases have weakened this somewhat.
Hewlett Packard makes more profit from here than anywhere else in the
company.
So, how do you avoid exorbitant ink costs?

Answer: you add-on a third-party's CONTINUOUS INKING SYSTEM (CIS) for
about $250 [paid for in 1 year], after seeing the Slashdot article 
[piece together the following 2 line Slashdot link, 
which has no spaces],
  http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=33357threshold=0
commentsort=0tid=98mode=threadpid=3602781#3603183
That response lists some sellers of CIS, 
but I will one day try the CIS seller ranked high by Google,
   http://www.tssphoto.com/sp/dg/cis
which is the same site as InkJetArt.
With such a system, you can choose to use inks almost identical
to your manufacturer's for about 1/4 the cost.
Or you can choose to use archival inks, or other inks: 
flexibility in hardware like the flexibility we like in Linux software.
That tssphoto.com site above tells with which printers 
the CIS system works, all Epson printers!
Evidently, Epson makes printers that are more easily altered,
although their latest line includes electronics on their cartridges,
increasing the expense of a CIS system.
You can see their ink comparisons at,
   http://www.tssphoto.com/sp/dg/archival_inks.html

One of these months, I will buy either
a. Epson Stylus Photo 1280  $450
b. Epson Stylus Photo 1200  $180? over ebay
   Epson no longer makes this model,
   but it is one of the last without electronics
   in the print cartridges.
   As a result, the third-party CIS system costs less, and
   the Epson 1200 costs less new and now used.

At the above website,
   http://www.tssphoto.com/sp/dg/cis/
look at the displayed printer.
On the right you will see six 4-ounce/125ml
bottles of ink.
You can see installation instructions with lots of
pictures,
 http://www.tssphoto.com/sp/dg/cis/instructions/CIS-nonchipped.html
Looking at these pictures, you can see the high Geek Factor.


Did you look at Linux suggested printers at,
   http://www.linuxprinting.org/suggested.html



On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 03:03:12PM -0600, Mike Fontenot wrote:
 
 I've got a Lexmark Optra Ep that just died, and
 I need to replace it.  I've read the linuxprinting.org
 web page, and that has helped some, but I don't see
 many of their recommendations in the mail-order catalogs
 that I've got.
 
 My wife has been bugging me to get a color printer anyway,
 so I guess I'll need to go with an inkjet.  But I've thought
 the cost/page of the Lexmark is already bad, so I'll
 probably be horrified with the operating costs of an inkjet.
 
 I've been using CUPS with the Optra Ep, and it's been working
 pretty well.  I've liked having the built-in postscript.
 
 Is postscript not a factor on the inkjet printers?  (I don't
 think postscript is mentioned in the inkjet section of the
 linuxprinting.org webpage).
 
 I've also searched for past recommendations.  The webpage
 seems to push Epson C80 the most.  I've seen some complaints
 of reliability for other Epson models, but nothing specifically
 for the C80.
 
 Any recent experience with these (or other) printers (and info
 about where to buy them)?  I'm running potato, and using the
 parallel connector for printing.
 
   Mike Fontenot
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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