Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On Du, 05 iun 11, 10:09:33, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/05/2011 07:59 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 04 iun 11, 22:56:19, Ron Johnson wrote: (I'd suggest that you give static IP addresses to your desktop machines and use the /etc/hosts file -- yes, even Windows has one -- to give your machines permanent symbolic names. Makes things easier that way.) If you're lucky the wireless router supports this (out-of-the box or with an upgrade to DD-WRT) ;) Are most wireless routers that limited? I was addressing the to give your machines permanent symbolic names part ;) I'm still using the stock firmware on a WRT54GL and it allows me to set the DHCP IP address assignment range. It was, I think, from 1 - 100 but I changed it to 100 - 150. Yes, this feature is quite common in my experience (though I lost the ability to assign specific IPs per MAC on a firmware upgrade of my VDSL modem). Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On Lu, 06 iun 11, 01:02:18, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/05/11 at 03:59pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 04 iun 11, 22:56:19, Ron Johnson wrote: (I'd suggest that you give static IP addresses to your desktop machines and use the /etc/hosts file -- yes, even Windows has one -- to give your machines permanent symbolic names. Makes things easier that way.) If you're lucky the wireless router supports this (out-of-the box or with an upgrade to DD-WRT) ;) This makes no sense to me. Using static IPs doesn't involve your router. Use them or not, it won't care (or know). If your router supports assigning a specific IP per MAC and, possibly even DNS names, then you have all your configuration centralised ;) Ok, for accessing other computers on the lan by name I now use mDNS, and even if my VDSL modem lost the ability to assign specific IPs, at least it uses the same IP for the same MAC, so it is possible to configure the port forwarding. Even if it works, I still don't like to rely on all that fully automatic configuration, so I'm looking forward to buying a new wireless router (with Gigabit and wireless N, I already have a classic one) that supports DD-WRT (or similar). Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:02 AM, William Hopkins we.hopk...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/05/11 at 03:59pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 04 iun 11, 22:56:19, Ron Johnson wrote: (I'd suggest that you give static IP addresses to your desktop machines and use the /etc/hosts file -- yes, even Windows has one -- to give your machines permanent symbolic names. Makes things easier that way.) If you're lucky the wireless router supports this (out-of-the box or with an upgrade to DD-WRT) ;) This makes no sense to me. Using static IPs doesn't involve your router. Use them or not, it won't care (or know). Most wireless and wired routers for home use include DHCP servers to support NAT behind them, and have for many years. Those support DHCP reservations. And the static addresses have to be behind the NAT, or served by the gateway directly. So yes, it cares that you use any IP addresses and whether they're correctly assigned to non-routable address ranges and LAN's and with the correct gateway to tallk to the router. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTikWsfF6bTrZ82m-sqk=-kgra__...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/06/11 at 07:53am, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:02 AM, William Hopkins we.hopk...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/05/11 at 03:59pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 04 iun 11, 22:56:19, Ron Johnson wrote: (I'd suggest that you give static IP addresses to your desktop machines and use the /etc/hosts file -- yes, even Windows has one -- to give your machines permanent symbolic names. Makes things easier that way.) If you're lucky the wireless router supports this (out-of-the box or with an upgrade to DD-WRT) ;) This makes no sense to me. Using static IPs doesn't involve your router. Use them or not, it won't care (or know). Most wireless and wired routers for home use include DHCP servers to support NAT behind them, and have for many years. DHCP support is unrelated, as we're talking about static IPs. Those support DHCP reservations. And the static addresses have to be behind the NAT, or served by the gateway directly. So yes, it cares that you use any IP addresses and whether they're correctly assigned to non-routable address ranges and LAN's and with the correct gateway to tallk to the router. No, it doesn't. Use whatever you want behind the 'router'. It neither knows nor cares. You do have to set the router's internal IP to something that the clients can reach and configure it as the default gateway for internet gatewaying to take place, but that is the only stipulation. And setting an IP is supported on *ALL* home routers/gateways. -- Liam signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On Sb, 04 iun 11, 22:56:19, Ron Johnson wrote: (I'd suggest that you give static IP addresses to your desktop machines and use the /etc/hosts file -- yes, even Windows has one -- to give your machines permanent symbolic names. Makes things easier that way.) If you're lucky the wireless router supports this (out-of-the box or with an upgrade to DD-WRT) ;) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/05/2011 07:59 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 04 iun 11, 22:56:19, Ron Johnson wrote: (I'd suggest that you give static IP addresses to your desktop machines and use the /etc/hosts file -- yes, even Windows has one -- to give your machines permanent symbolic names. Makes things easier that way.) If you're lucky the wireless router supports this (out-of-the box or with an upgrade to DD-WRT) ;) Are most wireless routers that limited? I'm still using the stock firmware on a WRT54GL and it allows me to set the DHCP IP address assignment range. It was, I think, from 1 - 100 but I changed it to 100 - 150. -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4deb9c2d.8060...@cox.net
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 06/05/2011 07:59 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 04 iun 11, 22:56:19, Ron Johnson wrote: (I'd suggest that you give static IP addresses to your desktop machines and use the /etc/hosts file -- yes, even Windows has one -- to give your machines permanent symbolic names. Makes things easier that way.) If you're lucky the wireless router supports this (out-of-the box or with an upgrade to DD-WRT) ;) Are most wireless routers that limited? I'm still using the stock firmware on a WRT54GL and it allows me to set the DHCP IP address assignment range. It was, I think, from 1 - 100 but I changed it to 100 - 150. Most models also support DHCP reservations, to get the IP addresses set consistently and not have to manually manipulate the network on your clients. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktikloexl94dlfqlrydscqyvk86z...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/05/11 at 03:59pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 04 iun 11, 22:56:19, Ron Johnson wrote: (I'd suggest that you give static IP addresses to your desktop machines and use the /etc/hosts file -- yes, even Windows has one -- to give your machines permanent symbolic names. Makes things easier that way.) If you're lucky the wireless router supports this (out-of-the box or with an upgrade to DD-WRT) ;) This makes no sense to me. Using static IPs doesn't involve your router. Use them or not, it won't care (or know). -- Liam signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/11 at 01:48am, Doug wrote: On 06/04/2011 01:30 AM, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/04/11 at 12:58am, Doug wrote: On 06/03/2011 11:28 PM, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/03/11 at 10:02pm, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/03/2011 11:43 AM, John A. Sullivan III wrote: [snip] NFS is by far simpler to use in pure Linux environment, Samba is for Windows networks. NFS has no passwords, just install it with apt-get, and declare /etc/exports in the server, and mount the shares in the clients /etc/fstab. That's all it takes. Fine for home environments, but shouldn't an office environment use LDAP for coordinated UID/GID sharing? /snip/ Not to steal the thread, but those who read this probably are the best to advise me. I know nothing about networking, but I would like to set up a peer-to-peer network ... Peer to peer typically refers to filesharing programs. Can you explain what it is you want? I assume you've already got a network up, is it file sharing you mean? If that's so, you probably don't even need samba. Just smbfs/smbclient on the linux clients to read the stuff on the Windows 7 box. No, I don't have a network up. As I said, I really don't know anything about networks. here's the debian networking howto, for your linux machines: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration the important files are /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf you can report back with questions or google a howto or hit up IRC for realtime support... What I want is not only file sharing, but the ability to use the Win 7 machine as a print server. IIRC it's easier to use linux as the server component for printing, but not impossible to go the other way. Unfortunately I don't have any windows machines, so I fear I'll be little help. Perhaps someone else can point you in the right direction. -- Liam signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/2011 01:55 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/04/2011 12:48 AM, Doug wrote: [snip] No, I don't have a network up. As I said, I really don't know anything about networks. What I want is not only file sharing, but the ability to use the Win 7 machine as a print server. (Linux is not fit to be a print server since it takes forever to print .pdf's. Maybe someday. . . .) Also, the Win 7 machine is closer to the printers, which are hard-wired. All of the machines are connected by ethernet But you say at the beginning of the paragraph that you don't have a network up. Misprint? or wireless. but the printers don't have either. No, I can plug both the Windows and one Linux machine into the Laserjet, one on parallel, and one on usb. But the only way I can communicate between any of the machines to share files is to email myself thru the isp. And the only way I can print to the color printer is to move the usb cable to whichever of two of the machines--the Win 7 or the other Linux--it will reach. And it is far too late to move everything around, and anyway the printers only have two input ports, and there are three computers. I hope I have made sense? --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de9cc68.2030...@optonline.net
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/2011 02:00 AM, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/04/11 at 01:48am, Doug wrote: On 06/04/2011 01:30 AM, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/04/11 at 12:58am, Doug wrote: On 06/03/2011 11:28 PM, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/03/11 at 10:02pm, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/03/2011 11:43 AM, John A. Sullivan III wrote: [snip] NFS is by far simpler to use in pure Linux environment, Samba is for Windows networks. NFS has no passwords, just install it with apt-get, and declare /etc/exports in the server, and mount the shares in the clients /etc/fstab. That's all it takes. Fine for home environments, but shouldn't an office environment use LDAP for coordinated UID/GID sharing? /snip/ Not to steal the thread, but those who read this probably are the best to advise me. I know nothing about networking, but I would like to set up a peer-to-peer network ... Peer to peer typically refers to filesharing programs. Can you explain what it is you want? I assume you've already got a network up, is it file sharing you mean? If that's so, you probably don't even need samba. Just smbfs/smbclient on the linux clients to read the stuff on the Windows 7 box. No, I don't have a network up. As I said, I really don't know anything about networks. here's the debian networking howto, for your linux machines: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration the important files are /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf you can report back with questions or google a howto or hit up IRC for realtime support... I opened the suggested url, and read the following intro: *Reader Prerequisites*: To get the most from this article, understand the following concepts before reading: basic unix command line tools, text editors, DNS, TCP/IP, DHCP, netmask, gateway I'm not afraid of command line tools and I can use nano or pico, or mc (yes, I've been around since WordStar days)--vi is a problem--but some of the network terms are not really clear to me. The only one I'm sure of is netmask, but I'm not sure if that is fixed to a machine or that is the dynamic part of DHCP. Nor do I know where the name in DNS comes from. As you see, I wasn't kidding about knowing about networking. However, I will google all these terms and see if that will clear things up. Then try the url again. (Meantime, I have to go to bed--it's 2:30 AM!) Thanx--doug What I want is not only file sharing, but the ability to use the Win 7 machine as a print server. IIRC it's easier to use linux as the server component for printing, but not impossible to go the other way. Unfortunately I don't have any windows machines, so I fear I'll be little help. Perhaps someone else can point you in the right direction. -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/2011 01:10 AM, Doug wrote: On 06/04/2011 01:55 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/04/2011 12:48 AM, Doug wrote: [snip] No, I don't have a network up. As I said, I really don't know anything about networks. What I want is not only file sharing, but the ability to use the Win 7 machine as a print server. (Linux is not fit to be a print server since it takes forever to print .pdf's. Maybe someday. . . .) Also, the Win 7 machine is closer to the printers, which are hard-wired. All of the machines are connected by ethernet But you say at the beginning of the paragraph that you don't have a network up. Misprint? or wireless. but the printers don't have either. No, I can plug both the Windows and one Linux machine into the Laserjet, one on parallel, and one on usb. But the only way I can communicate between any of the machines to share files is to email myself thru the isp. And the only way I can print to the color printer is to move the usb cable to whichever of two of the machines--the Win 7 or the other Linux--it will reach. And it is far too late to move everything around, and anyway the printers only have two input ports, and there are three computers. I hope I have made sense? How do they access the Intarweb at the same time? Or do they? -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de9d5ab.8020...@cox.net
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/2011 01:31 AM, Doug wrote: [snip] I opened the suggested url, and read the following intro: *Reader Prerequisites*: To get the most from this article, understand the following concepts before reading: basic unix command line tools, text editors, DNS, TCP/IP, DHCP, netmask, gateway I'm not afraid of command line tools and I can use nano or pico, or mc (yes, I've been around What do you current use to configure networking in Linux? (You must get to the Internet somehow...) -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de9d653.90...@cox.net
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On Sb, 04 iun 11, 02:31:28, Doug wrote: I opened the suggested url, and read the following intro: *Reader Prerequisites*: To get the most from this article, understand the following concepts before reading: basic unix command line tools, text editors, DNS, TCP/IP, DHCP, netmask, gateway I'm not afraid of command line tools and I can use nano or pico, or mc (yes, I've been around since WordStar days)--vi is a problem--but some of the network terms are not really clear to me. The only one I'm sure of is netmask, but I'm not sure if that is fixed to a machine or that is the dynamic part of DHCP. Nor do I know where the name in DNS comes from. As you see, I wasn't kidding about knowing about networking. Hello Doug, I would suggest (in this order): 1. read on Wikipedia about all the terms above you don't understand - ask questions here for anything you don't understand (be specific and open a new thread for each question) 2. open a new thread with a good subject and describe exactly - what computers you have (with OS and computer names if possible) - what other hardware you have (printers and such) - what network devices you have (including exact model) - how are they all connected to each other - what you want to achieve Yes, it's not easy, but my impression is you don't want to be spoon-fed, but instead really understand what you would be doing :) Regards, Andrei P.S. Before you start, this is an excelent read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 06/03/2011 11:28 PM, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/03/11 at 10:02pm, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/03/2011 11:43 AM, John A. Sullivan III wrote: [snip] NFS is by far simpler to use in pure Linux environment, Samba is for Windows networks. NFS has no passwords, just install it with apt-get, and declare /etc/exports in the server, and mount the shares in the clients /etc/fstab. That's all it takes. Fine for home environments, but shouldn't an office environment use LDAP for coordinated UID/GID sharing? /snip/ Not to steal the thread, but those who read this probably are the best to advise me. I know nothing about networking, but I would like to set up a peer-to-peer network among a Windows 7 and two Linux machines, one of which can also be booted to XP. (If one absolutely *must* be a master it must be the Windows 7 machine.) I assume I would use samba. I don't need any security--all the machines are mine, here in the house with me, and I live alone. What I need is words of one syllable on how to do it. Is there a Networks For Dummies for me somewhere? Thanx--doug Most modern computers can, very reasonably, use dhcp to automatically be configured inside a local network and be able to reach the rest of the computers or the Intenet(tm). I'll assume you've already got your local wireless gateway or cable router or dsl modem or whatever doing that. First step, make sure you can see the Internet safely from inside your local network. That makes sure you're up and connected. I'm also assuming the IP addresses you're getting are non-routable addresses behind a NAT gateway: you can look them up with your network configuration tools. For someone like you unfamiliar with the internals on Linux, you might actually benefit from using the NetworkManager tools on your Linux boxes. Verify that the addresses are non-routable, for safety: they'll typically look something like 192.168.1.101. That 192.168 to start means don't tell people on the Internet about this, hide behind a NAT gateway.) Second step. Tell your gateway to set up DHCP reservations: this stabilizes what IP address each machine gets, so you can hit the same address again and make things work. You can alternatively set up your network configuration smanually, but DHCP can be very handy. Third step. Pick one machine as a file server, say, one Linux box. That will tell you what file sharing protocols are available: Samba to share to Windows, and NFS to share with Linux and some Windows boxes, work reasonably well. Pick *ONE* file server, don't try to do this with all 3 machines or you'll enter a configuration rats nest. Mount your file shares from the server box. Use the now stable IP addresses: you can use host names if you set up a DNS server for yourself or a put host names in each machines /etc/hosts file, but for only 3 boxes, you don't need it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktim3h99dhas05fqu4g1shceco8f...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/2011 02:53 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/04/2011 01:31 AM, Doug wrote: [snip] I opened the suggested url, and read the following intro: *Reader Prerequisites*: To get the most from this article, understand the following concepts before reading: basic unix command line tools, text editors, DNS, TCP/IP, DHCP, netmask, gateway I'm not afraid of command line tools and I can use nano or pico, or mc (yes, I've been around What do you current use to configure networking in Linux? (You must get to the Internet somehow...) I have a router with ethernet connections from each machine. (Or wireless, if the laptop is not wired in.) The router connects to a cable modem, and off we go. It is even possible to connect two machines to the internet at once--one playing streaming audio from a radio station in Texas, and one downloading or uploading email, or Googling. Nobody ever told me it was impossible, so I just do it. Or, since all the machines are multi-tasking, it's possible to Google while listening to music on the same machine. (I normally use the main Linux machine for email and net searching, and the Win 7 machine for music, since its sound card is output to a hi-fi system. If I want to do any serious writing, I use the Windows machine with WordPerfect on it. No M/S or M/S clone comes close.) --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4deabe08.2010...@optonline.net
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/11 at 07:21pm, Doug wrote: On 06/04/2011 02:53 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/04/2011 01:31 AM, Doug wrote: [snip] I opened the suggested url, and read the following intro: *Reader Prerequisites*: To get the most from this article, understand the following concepts before reading: basic unix command line tools, text editors, DNS, TCP/IP, DHCP, netmask, gateway I'm not afraid of command line tools and I can use nano or pico, or mc (yes, I've been around What do you current use to configure networking in Linux? (You must get to the Internet somehow...) I have a router with ethernet connections from each machine. (Or wireless, if the laptop is not wired in.) For future reference, this means you *do* have a network set up. Contrary to what you said before.. -- Liam signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/2011 06:21 PM, Doug wrote: On 06/04/2011 02:53 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/04/2011 01:31 AM, Doug wrote: [snip] I opened the suggested url, and read the following intro: *Reader Prerequisites*: To get the most from this article, understand the following concepts before reading: basic unix command line tools, text editors, DNS, TCP/IP, DHCP, netmask, gateway I'm not afraid of command line tools and I can use nano or pico, or mc (yes, I've been around What do you current use to configure networking in Linux? (You must get to the Internet somehow...) I have a router with ethernet connections from each machine. (Or wireless, if the laptop is not wired in.) The router connects to a cable modem, and off we go. It is even possible to connect two machines to the internet at once--one playing streaming audio from a radio station in Texas, and one downloading or uploading email, or Googling. Nobody ever told me it was impossible, so I just do it. Or, since all the machines are multi-tasking, it's possible to Google while listening to music on the same machine. (I normally use the main Linux machine for email and net searching, and the Win 7 machine for music, since its sound card is output to a hi-fi system. If I want to do any serious writing, I use the Windows machine with WordPerfect on it. No M/S or M/S clone comes close.) So, as William says, you *do* have successfully implemented a LAN in your apartment. What you now need is File And Print Sharing. Since the printer is plugged into the Win7 machine, Samba is your only choice. (I'd suggest that you give static IP addresses to your desktop machines and use the /etc/hosts file -- yes, even Windows has one -- to give your machines permanent symbolic names. Makes things easier that way.) -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4deafe63.7070...@cox.net
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/03/2011 11:28 PM, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/03/11 at 10:02pm, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/03/2011 11:43 AM, John A. Sullivan III wrote: [snip] NFS is by far simpler to use in pure Linux environment, Samba is for Windows networks. NFS has no passwords, just install it with apt-get, and declare /etc/exports in the server, and mount the shares in the clients /etc/fstab. That's all it takes. Fine for home environments, but shouldn't an office environment use LDAP for coordinated UID/GID sharing? /snip/ Not to steal the thread, but those who read this probably are the best to advise me. I know nothing about networking, but I would like to set up a peer-to-peer network among a Windows 7 and two Linux machines, one of which can also be booted to XP. (If one absolutely *must* be a master it must be the Windows 7 machine.) I assume I would use samba. I don't need any security--all the machines are mine, here in the house with me, and I live alone. What I need is words of one syllable on how to do it. Is there a Networks For Dummies for me somewhere? Thanx--doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de9bb80.7050...@optonline.net
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/11 at 12:58am, Doug wrote: On 06/03/2011 11:28 PM, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/03/11 at 10:02pm, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/03/2011 11:43 AM, John A. Sullivan III wrote: [snip] NFS is by far simpler to use in pure Linux environment, Samba is for Windows networks. NFS has no passwords, just install it with apt-get, and declare /etc/exports in the server, and mount the shares in the clients /etc/fstab. That's all it takes. Fine for home environments, but shouldn't an office environment use LDAP for coordinated UID/GID sharing? /snip/ Not to steal the thread, but those who read this probably are the best to advise me. I know nothing about networking, but I would like to set up a peer-to-peer network ... Peer to peer typically refers to filesharing programs. Can you explain what it is you want? I assume you've already got a network up, is it file sharing you mean? If that's so, you probably don't even need samba. Just smbfs/smbclient on the linux clients to read the stuff on the Windows 7 box. -- Liam signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/2011 01:30 AM, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/04/11 at 12:58am, Doug wrote: On 06/03/2011 11:28 PM, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/03/11 at 10:02pm, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/03/2011 11:43 AM, John A. Sullivan III wrote: [snip] NFS is by far simpler to use in pure Linux environment, Samba is for Windows networks. NFS has no passwords, just install it with apt-get, and declare /etc/exports in the server, and mount the shares in the clients /etc/fstab. That's all it takes. Fine for home environments, but shouldn't an office environment use LDAP for coordinated UID/GID sharing? /snip/ Not to steal the thread, but those who read this probably are the best to advise me. I know nothing about networking, but I would like to set up a peer-to-peer network ... Peer to peer typically refers to filesharing programs. Can you explain what it is you want? I assume you've already got a network up, is it file sharing you mean? If that's so, you probably don't even need samba. Just smbfs/smbclient on the linux clients to read the stuff on the Windows 7 box. No, I don't have a network up. As I said, I really don't know anything about networks. What I want is not only file sharing, but the ability to use the Win 7 machine as a print server. (Linux is not fit to be a print server since it takes forever to print .pdf's. Maybe someday. . . .) Also, the Win 7 machine is closer to the printers, which are hard-wired. All of the machines are connected by ethernet or wireless. but the printers don't have either. --doug Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/2011 12:48 AM, Doug wrote: [snip] No, I don't have a network up. As I said, I really don't know anything about networks. What I want is not only file sharing, but the ability to use the Win 7 machine as a print server. (Linux is not fit to be a print server since it takes forever to print .pdf's. Maybe someday. . . .) Also, the Win 7 machine is closer to the printers, which are hard-wired. All of the machines are connected by ethernet But you say at the beginning of the paragraph that you don't have a network up. Misprint? or wireless. but the printers don't have either. -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de9c8cd.8080...@cox.net
