Re: XFree86 4.0.2 - Very low resolution - how to increase? - Includes: How To RTFM :^)

2001-02-19 Thread Martin Albert
On Saturday 17 February 2001 09:33, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 On 17 Feb 2001, Martin Albert wrote:
  On Friday 16 February 2001 09:41, Anthony Campbell wrote:
   I'm currently confused about X-4. I've been keeping up to date
 
  You're actually running the old 3.3.6 server, propably you didn't
  install a new one. If you dare (no, it works, at least) do
  apt-get install xserver-xfree86

 I've done this but I can't get it to work. I ran xf86config and
 produced an XF86Config-4 file, but this refuses to run, with numerous
 error messages (various sections should begin with Driver.. etc.).

 I'll glady RTFM if there is one.

YOU're actually RUNning the OLD 3.3.6 server.
 My driver is xserver-svga 3.3.6X

(man dpkg ;-)
dpkg -l x\*

shows each package installed on your machine whose name starts with x.
(the \ before * is an 'escape character' for the shell; says 'don't use 
this char with a special meaning you have for it, pass it unchanged'.; 
here dpkg shall have arguments -l and x*. info bash or man bash).

If this gives so much output, that you cannot see the first lines, use

dpkg -l x\* | grep server

This passes all output, that dpkg produces through a pipe (told the 
shell with | symbol) to grep, which outputs only lines of input that 
have 'server' in them.

You will propably see one:

XF86-xxx3.3.6

You need:

xserver-xfree86 4.0.x

apt-get install xserver-xfree86
(man apt, if you have info you may read all man pages with it too, if 
you like it better (i use both). Caveat: I don't understand apt's man 
page either ;)

Most interesting is a section each manpage has near its end:
SEE ALSO. This gives references to related programs and config files.

Once you installed xserver-, you can find lots of info in the directory
/usr/share/doc. Every package isntalls docs there. Mostly just 
copyright blurb, but sometimes a wealth of more or less usefull info. 
If indoubt, give it a try. For X there is a lot of info, eg. on the 
XF86Config file and the Device drivers.

greetings, martin



Re: Xfree86 4.0.2 -Very Low resolution -how to increase?

2001-02-19 Thread Anthony Campbell

On 19 Feb 2001, Martin Albert wrote:
 
 YOU're actually RUNning the OLD 3.3.6 server.
  My driver is xserver-svga 3.3.6X
 
 (man dpkg ;-)
 dpkg -l x\*
 
 shows each package installed on your machine whose name starts with x.
 (the \ before * is an 'escape character' for the shell; says 'don't use 
 this char with a special meaning you have for it, pass it unchanged'.; 
 here dpkg shall have arguments -l and x*. info bash or man bash).
 
 If this gives so much output, that you cannot see the first lines, use
 
 dpkg -l x\* | grep server
 
 This passes all output, that dpkg produces through a pipe (told the 
 shell with | symbol) to grep, which outputs only lines of input that 
 have 'server' in them.
 
 You will propably see one:
 
 XF86-xxx  3.3.6
 
 You need:
 
 xserver-xfree86   4.0.x
 
[snip]

Thanks, but I'm familiar with the above; what I couldn't do was to
persuade the new server to run. However, as I indicated in a post
yesterday, thanks to another poster on this list I discovered the
problem. As so often happens, it was quite simple; I just needed to make
/etc/X11/X point to /usr/bin/X11/XFree86. As soon as I did this it ran
4.0.2 perfectly. 

Anthony



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Re: XFree86 4.0.2 - Very low resolution - how to increase? -SOLVED

2001-02-18 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 18 Feb 2001, Brad Hubbard wrote:
 
  Xfree 4.x has TWO config filesunlike the old Xfree 3.x
 
  Make sure you are changing both files and not just the old type
 XFree86.cfg
  one
 
  Took me a while to figure this one out
 
 Presumably one is /etc/X11/XF86Config, what's the other one?
 
 Cheers,
 Brad
 
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Actually I don't think the above is right. I now seem to have got X-4
working and there is only ONE config file; the old one is redundant.

I've done the following:

1. run xf86config and generate /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.

2. remove or rename /etc/XF86Config. (If you leave it, it does no harm,
but it isn't doing anything.)

3. Change the link /etc/X11/X to point to /usr/bin/X11/XFree86.

It's no. 3 which I was missing; I found it thanks to another poster
on this list (Mirek Kwasniak).

There seems to be a good deal of confusion hereabouts concerning this
upgrade and I don't know if what I did is what you are supposed to do,
but it does work here.

Anthony


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Re: XFree86 4.0.2 - Very low resolution - how to increase?

2001-02-17 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 17 Feb 2001, Martin Albert wrote:
 On Friday 16 February 2001 09:41, Anthony Campbell wrote:
  I'm currently confused about X-4. I've been keeping up to date with
  Testing and now I don't know which version of X I'm running. My
  driver is xserver-svga 3.3.6X. I tried running xf86config and this
  generated a XF86Config-4 file which didn't work. I therefore
  continued with my existing XF86Config.
 
  Can anyone explain briefly what the present position is with regard
  to X-4?
 
 I can only explain briefly what your problem is ;-)
 
 You're actually running the old 3.3.6 server, propably you didn't 
 install a new one. If you dare (no, it works, at least) do 
 apt-get install xserver-xfree86
 
 martin
 
 

I've done this but I can't get it to work. I ran xf86config and produced
an XF86Config-4 file, but this refuses to run, with numerous error
messages (various sections should begin with Driver.. etc.).

I'll glady RTFM if there is one.

Anthony


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Re: XFree86 4.0.2 - Very low resolution - how to increase?

2001-02-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
I have similar problem on ATI mach64 system.

After checking system, I found FB support is enabled only on
Matrox system, if you are using default kernel.

I recompiled kernel with ATI, VGA, SVGA enabled.
Now my boot console screen goes crazy.

I am playing with it now.  (Teleneting from other machine.)

BTW, if you have XF86Config-4, it overides XF86Config.

Osamu

On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 08:33:23AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 On 17 Feb 2001, Martin Albert wrote:
  On Friday 16 February 2001 09:41, Anthony Campbell wrote:
   I'm currently confused about X-4. I've been keeping up to date with
   Testing and now I don't know which version of X I'm running. My
   driver is xserver-svga 3.3.6X. I tried running xf86config and this
   generated a XF86Config-4 file which didn't work. I therefore
   continued with my existing XF86Config.
  
   Can anyone explain briefly what the present position is with regard
   to X-4?
  
  I can only explain briefly what your problem is ;-)
  
  You're actually running the old 3.3.6 server, propably you didn't 
  install a new one. If you dare (no, it works, at least) do 
  apt-get install xserver-xfree86
  
  martin
  
  
 
 I've done this but I can't get it to work. I ran xf86config and produced
 an XF86Config-4 file, but this refuses to run, with numerous error
 messages (various sections should begin with Driver.. etc.).
 
 I'll glady RTFM if there is one.
 
 Anthony
 
 
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Re: XFree86 4.0.2 - Very low resolution - how to increase?

2001-02-17 Thread Brad Hubbard

 Xfree 4.x has TWO config filesunlike the old Xfree 3.x

 Make sure you are changing both files and not just the old type
XFree86.cfg
 one

 Took me a while to figure this one out

Presumably one is /etc/X11/XF86Config, what's the other one?

Cheers,
Brad

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Re: XFree86 4.0.2 - Very low resolution - how to increase?

2001-02-16 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 16 Feb 2001, Leigh Dyer wrote:
 On 15 Feb 2001 19:55:06 +1100, hogan wrote:
 



 I checked your XFree86 log, and it's telling me that it's treating your
 card as a generic VGA card, hence the 64K of RAM and 320x240 pixel
 screen. I'm pretty certain this is because your chipset isn't supported
 in 4.0.2. However, you can still install and use 3.3.6 X servers
 (apt-get install xserver-svga), though I think this takes some fiddling.
 
 Thanks
 Leigh
 
I'm currently confused about X-4. I've been keeping up to date with
Testing and now I don't know which version of X I'm running. My driver
is xserver-svga 3.3.6X. I tried running xf86config and this generated a
XF86Config-4 file which didn't work. I therefore continued with my
existing XF86Config.

Can anyone explain briefly what the present position is with regard to
X-4?

Anthony


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Re: XFree86 4.0.2 - Very low resolution - how to increase?

2001-02-16 Thread Martin Albert
On Friday 16 February 2001 09:41, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 I'm currently confused about X-4. I've been keeping up to date with
 Testing and now I don't know which version of X I'm running. My
 driver is xserver-svga 3.3.6X. I tried running xf86config and this
 generated a XF86Config-4 file which didn't work. I therefore
 continued with my existing XF86Config.

 Can anyone explain briefly what the present position is with regard
 to X-4?

I can only explain briefly what your problem is ;-)

You're actually running the old 3.3.6 server, propably you didn't 
install a new one. If you dare (no, it works, at least) do 
apt-get install xserver-xfree86

martin



Re: XFree86 4.0.2 - Very low resolution - how to increase?

2001-02-15 Thread Leigh Dyer
On 15 Feb 2001 19:55:06 +1100, hogan wrote:
 Any ideas? It says my card (actually on board S3) isn't supported but that
 SVGA driver should handle it..
 

What S3 card exactly? if you check
http://www.xfree86.org/current/Status28.html, you'll find that only the
S3 Trio3D, and Virge and Savage variants, are actually supported at all
in XFree86 4.0.2. The drivers for earlier chips (such as Trio variants)
have been ported from 3.3.6 yet.

I checked your XFree86 log, and it's telling me that it's treating your
card as a generic VGA card, hence the 64K of RAM and 320x240 pixel
screen. I'm pretty certain this is because your chipset isn't supported
in 4.0.2. However, you can still install and use 3.3.6 X servers
(apt-get install xserver-svga), though I think this takes some fiddling.

Thanks
Leigh





Re: XFree86 4.0.2 - Very low resolution - how to increase?

2001-02-15 Thread Antony Platt
Hogan

Xfree 4.x has TWO config filesunlike the old Xfree 3.x

Make sure you are changing both files and not just the old type XFree86.cfg
one

Took me a while to figure this one out

Tony Platt
Sys Admin
Eliza Travel Pty Ltd
http://www.elizatravel.com
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