Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question

2012-09-05 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 05:57:07PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
 I just tried: modprobe snd_pcm_oss then tried echo $? and got back a 0 no 
 other output from: modprobe snd_pcm_oss so in order to get that working I 
 will probably have to install alsa-oss.  The oss drivers may be completely 
 inappropriate for this card too.On Tue, 4 Sep 2012, lee wrote:

This is perfectly normal behaviour.

The GNU philosophy is, usually, to only complain in case of an error.
Most tools will NOT output anything (extra) in case of success. If you
get no output and the return value is 0, then the module was probed
successfully. To confirm that, run lsmod to see that it's loaded; if
it isn't, then maybe it loaded correctly and then unloaded due to an
error (check your logs. Note that snd_pcm_oss probably won't do that,
but some other could, I suppose).

Also note that snd_pcm_oss doesn't actually load the OSS sound system,
it just provides a compatibility layer so that programs which don't
speak ALSA can still use the OSS interface.

 
  Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes:
  
   Yes I have sound.  rexima and aumix appear unable to locate any cards 
   even with several different combinations of items parsed from the 
   relevant lspci line.
  
  According to [1] (which probably applies), you might want to try
  something like rexima -d /dev/mixer. Parsing strings to rexima or
  aumix that have been taken from the output of lspci probably isn't the
  right thing to do.
  
  What exactly are you doing, and do you get any error messages?
  
  
  [1]: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/rexima.1.html
  
  
  
 
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Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question

2012-09-05 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012, Darac Marjal wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 05:57:07PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
  I just tried: modprobe snd_pcm_oss then tried echo $? and got back a 0 no 
  other output from: modprobe snd_pcm_oss so in order to get that working I 
  will probably have to install alsa-oss.  The oss drivers may be completely 
  inappropriate for this card too.On Tue, 4 Sep 2012, lee wrote:
 
 This is perfectly normal behaviour.
 
 The GNU philosophy is, usually, to only complain in case of an error.
 Most tools will NOT output anything (extra) in case of success. If you
 get no output and the return value is 0, then the module was probed
 successfully. To confirm that, run lsmod to see that it's loaded; if
 it isn't, then maybe it loaded correctly and then unloaded due to an
 error (check your logs. Note that snd_pcm_oss probably won't do that,
 but some other could, I suppose).
 
 Also note that snd_pcm_oss doesn't actually load the OSS sound system,
 it just provides a compatibility layer so that programs which don't
 speak ALSA can still use the OSS interface.
 
  
   Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes:
   
Yes I have sound.  rexima and aumix appear unable to locate any cards 
even with several different combinations of items parsed from the 
relevant lspci line.
   
   According to [1] (which probably applies), you might want to try
   something like rexima -d /dev/mixer. Parsing strings to rexima or
   aumix that have been taken from the output of lspci probably isn't the
   right thing to do.
   
   What exactly are you doing, and do you get any error messages?
   
   
   [1]: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/rexima.1.html
   
   
   
  
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The interesting thing is before I ran that modprobe command there was no 
/dev/mixer on the system.  After I ran the modprobe command though, 
/dev/mixer must have been created and enabled.

 

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Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes:

 Yes, alsamixer finds a sound card as does amix -l and yes it's the only 
 sound card installed. On Mon, 3 Sep 2012, lee wrote:

Ok then the card is recognised and probably working. Do you have sound?

In that case, I would think it's an issue with the programs you are
trying to use for a mixer. I don't know those since I just use
alsamixer; maybe you need to specify options to them.


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Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question

2012-09-04 Thread Jude DaShiell
Yes I have sound.  rexima and aumix appear unable to locate any cards 
even with several different combinations of items parsed from the 
relevant lspci line.

On Tue, 4 Sep 2012, lee wrote:

 Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes:
 
  Yes, alsamixer finds a sound card as does amix -l and yes it's the only 
  sound card installed. On Mon, 3 Sep 2012, lee wrote:
 
 Ok then the card is recognised and probably working. Do you have sound?
 
 In that case, I would think it's an issue with the programs you are
 trying to use for a mixer. I don't know those since I just use
 alsamixer; maybe you need to specify options to them.
 
 
 

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Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question

2012-09-04 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 06:23:20PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
 Yes, alsamixer finds a sound card as does amix -l and yes it's the only 
 sound card installed. On Mon, 3 Sep 2012, lee wrote:

If you're using ALSA, then you should probably be aware that /dev/mixer
is not an ALSA device name. ALSA uses, say, /dev/snd/controlC0.

If you want to use the deprecated OSS devices, you should ensure that
ALSA's OSS-compatibility layer is loaded (modprobe snd_pcm_oss).

 
  Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes:
  
   I ran both aumix -q and rexima and neither were able to find the sound 
   card.
  
  Is alsamixer able to find devices, or do some show up when you run
  aplay -l or aplay -L? Is this the only sound card installed?
  
  
  
 
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Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes:

 Yes I have sound.  rexima and aumix appear unable to locate any cards 
 even with several different combinations of items parsed from the 
 relevant lspci line.

According to [1] (which probably applies), you might want to try
something like rexima -d /dev/mixer. Parsing strings to rexima or
aumix that have been taken from the output of lspci probably isn't the
right thing to do.

What exactly are you doing, and do you get any error messages?


[1]: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/rexima.1.html


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Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question

2012-09-04 Thread Chris Bannister
Jude,

If ls -al /dev/mixer is not there, check that 
the package oss-compat is installed?

If not sure post output of apt-cache policy oss-compat

Hopefully this will fix it.

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Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question

2012-09-04 Thread Jude DaShiell
I just tried: modprobe snd_pcm_oss then tried echo $? and got back a 0 no 
other output from: modprobe snd_pcm_oss so in order to get that working I 
will probably have to install alsa-oss.  The oss drivers may be completely 
inappropriate for this card too.On Tue, 4 Sep 2012, lee wrote:

 Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes:
 
  Yes I have sound.  rexima and aumix appear unable to locate any cards 
  even with several different combinations of items parsed from the 
  relevant lspci line.
 
 According to [1] (which probably applies), you might want to try
 something like rexima -d /dev/mixer. Parsing strings to rexima or
 aumix that have been taken from the output of lspci probably isn't the
 right thing to do.
 
 What exactly are you doing, and do you get any error messages?
 
 
 [1]: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/rexima.1.html
 
 
 

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Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question

2012-09-04 Thread Jude DaShiell
Okay, that modprobe command woke up the mixer and rexima found it with:
rexima -d /dev/mixer and took control as it had done on other computers 
I had.  I play frotz games and those have oss type sound effects in them 
I've not heard since the first days I played infocom games on dos on a 
pc all those years ago so this should be interesting.  Thanks much for 
all who have helped.  I'll put a couple more commands in the file I use 
to customize debian on this machine.

On Tue, 4 Sep 2012, Jude DaShiell wrote:

 I just tried: modprobe snd_pcm_oss then tried echo $? and got back a 0 no 
 other output from: modprobe snd_pcm_oss so in order to get that working I 
 will probably have to install alsa-oss.  The oss drivers may be completely 
 inappropriate for this card too.On Tue, 4 Sep 2012, lee wrote:
 
  Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes:
  
   Yes I have sound.  rexima and aumix appear unable to locate any cards 
   even with several different combinations of items parsed from the 
   relevant lspci line.
  
  According to [1] (which probably applies), you might want to try
  something like rexima -d /dev/mixer. Parsing strings to rexima or
  aumix that have been taken from the output of lspci probably isn't the
  right thing to do.
  
  What exactly are you doing, and do you get any error messages?
  
  
  [1]: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/rexima.1.html
  
  
  
 
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Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question

2012-09-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 08:45:42PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
 Is it possible to create a /dev/mixer entry for this kind of sound card 
 that will enable rexima and/or aumix to find the sound card and control 
 the sound card?

Is the card being recognised?

What are you trying to do?
What have you tried?
What didn't work?

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Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question

2012-09-03 Thread Jude DaShiell
I ran both aumix -q and rexima and neither were able to find the sound 
card.  The sound card shows up using lspci, but I don't know what to parse 
out of it for an ln -s command or if a /dev/mixer device if created would 
even work in this circumstance. On Tue, 4 Sep 2012, Chris Bannister wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 08:45:42PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
  Is it possible to create a /dev/mixer entry for this kind of sound card 
  that will enable rexima and/or aumix to find the sound card and control 
  the sound card?
 
 Is the card being recognised?
 
 What are you trying to do?
 What have you tried?
 What didn't work?
 
 

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Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question

2012-09-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 20:45:42 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:

 Is it possible to create a /dev/mixer entry for this kind of sound card
 that will enable rexima and/or aumix to find the sound card and control
 the sound card?

JFYI, according to Debian's rexima package NEWS.gz file, that shouldn't 
be a problem:

***
* Changes in rexima 1.3

Now allows mixer device file to be specified, so you can work with
something other than /dev/mixer. Thanks to Ivan Kalvatchev for
(indirectly) suggesting this.
***

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Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question

2012-09-03 Thread lee
Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes:

 I ran both aumix -q and rexima and neither were able to find the sound 
 card.

Is alsamixer able to find devices, or do some show up when you run
aplay -l or aplay -L? Is this the only sound card installed?


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Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question

2012-09-03 Thread Jude DaShiell
Yes, alsamixer finds a sound card as does amix -l and yes it's the only 
sound card installed. On Mon, 3 Sep 2012, lee wrote:

 Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes:
 
  I ran both aumix -q and rexima and neither were able to find the sound 
  card.
 
 Is alsamixer able to find devices, or do some show up when you run
 aplay -l or aplay -L? Is this the only sound card installed?
 
 
 

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