Re: serious problem, I don't know where to report!
No need to post to boot@. Nothing to do with boot@. user@ should be just fine, for looking for a work-around. (switching to debian-user@lists.debian.org.) On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Jack Wilborn jkwilb...@gmail.com wrote: I have a problem with Debian, since the previous release and it has made sending any kind of e-mail or writing virtually impossible. Ｔｈｅ ｔｈｉｎｇｓ ｃｈａｎｇｅｓ ｆｏｎｔｓ！！ Ｊｕｓｔ ｌｉｋｅ ｔｈｉｓ That's not a font problem. Try pasting it into a text editor. If you're not convinced, save the pasted text as a file and look at the file with hexdump -C. ａｎｄ Ｉ ｄｏｎｔ’ｔ ｓｅｅｍ ｔｏ ｈａｖｅ ａｎｙ ｃｏｎｔｒｏｌ ｏｖｅｒ ｔｈｉｓ！！！ The input methods' default keyboard shortcuts are not my favorite. Really hate having my slow fingers switch methods after I type a capital letter, for instance. What's causing the IME switch in your case is not clear at this point. ctl-space might get you back. Ｐｌｅａｓｅ ｇｉｖｅ ｍｅ ｓｏｍｅｏｎｅ ｔｏ ｐｌａｃｅ ａ ｂｕｇ ｏｒ ｓｔａｒｔ ｔｈｉｓ ｔｏ ｆｉｘ ｔｈｉｓ． Looking on http://lists.debian.org/completeindex.html, it looks like there's no more specific group than debian-i...@lists.debian.org. (Did I miss a group for unicode and wide character handling?) I'm going to bend the rules a little and cross-post this post. Ｉｔ ｉｓ ｉｍｐｏｓｓｉｂｌｅ ｔｏ ｕｓｅ ａｎｄ ｗｉｌｌ ｄｒｉｖｅ ｍｅ ｂａｃｋ ｔｏ Ｗｉｎｄｏｗｓ （ＵＧＧＧＨ！！！） Heh. MSWindows IMEs tend to get even more in the way, switching input methods by guesses about the context. Ｐｌｅａｓｅ ｈｅｌｐ Ｊａｃｋ Ｗｉｌｂｏｒｎ Ｐｅｏｒｉａ， Ａｒｉｚｏｎａ Well, do you need input methods installed? That's my guess, anyway. They might have gotten installed when you added support for Spanish or something. You could try un-installing them, but watch your dependencies. Also, check your task bar. You might find a (legible or not) icon that you can click on to select the input method (and related stuff) from a menu. If there is, there should also be a menu item in there that leads to settings that will allow you to change the keyboard shortcuts. Which would be another way to get it out of your way without dropping fancy character support for foreign languages. -- Joel Rees
Re: serious problem, I don't know where to report!
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org wrote: On 17/08/13 16:56, Jack Wilborn wrote: [...] sending any kind of e-mail or writing virtually impossible. Ｔｈｅ ｔｈｉｎｇｓ ｃｈａｎｇｅｓ ｆｏｎｔｓ！！ Oh, wow! It's not actually the 'font' changing there, but the character set or 'Unicode plane', I think; non-ASCII characters are being typed for some reason. Does it always trigger after the first sentence? Good idea, try to figure out what triggers it, if not shift-space or ctrl-space. Which desktop environment are you using? (GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXDE...) The maintainers of the relevant desktop environment might know what causes this. I think they would be first interested in what he installed just before this started. You may need to check settings for keyboard layout, language and similar. I have a feeling your desktop is configured for an Asian script instead of whatever you were expecting. I was thinking any of the scripts that allow more characters than the keyboard has would do the trick, including, say, Spanish. But I'm not familiar with how accents and tildes are input in Spanish. And I'm pretty sure Spanish doesn't use the double width versions of Latin, so maybe not Spanish after all. Asian includes Arab, Hebrew, Thai, and so forth, as well, of course. Japanese is the most easily suspect, since it's the Japanese encodings that basically forced the double width characters to be included in Unicode, IIRC. Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org Do Steven's comments help, Jack? I sure wasn't firing on all cylinders when I posted this morning. May not be firing on all cylinders, now. Hope I didn't cause too much confusion. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iPny-YehaWO5iOz=PUnnDPb_J2E16Zm=hd8yiy-1je...@mail.gmail.com
Re: serious problem, I don't know where to report!
I'm going to go ahead and push this back to the lists, so people a little more cogent than I can jump in. On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Jack Wilborn jkwilb...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, thanks for the input. As you can see from my post it is apparently in the file as a character then a space. I think you've convinced yourself that isn't the case by now. Those characters are double wide, or full width. No extra spaces mixed in. Wikipedia might help here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halfwidth_and_fullwidth_forms I don't remember what the LibreOfficer Writer did, but I believe it changed the font to Droid Sans. The font probably isn't going to tell us much. I will try the Crtl-space option and I don't think I'm using any keyboard shortcuts, just typing. Shift-space also does it. (It's the one that always gets me, you'd think I'd be sensible enough to disable that keyboard shortcut.) That may have been what got you. Since the docs come back with the unusual font and post with them, I'm pretty sure looking at them with a hex dump program will not add anything that I know to look for. Well, if you don't know what you're looking for, it doesn't help. Sorry, I should have been a little less terse. I will attempt to follow your advise, as I was a lead programmer and have retired, I've spent lots of time and have never had this happen before, but it has reached a critical level to where I cant do anything without this popping up. Very frustrating. My Dad would always just go to sleep when the computer misbehaved. Lately, I do, too. Hate it when I end up dumping a long string of 500 periods or exclamation marks or something into a document before I wake up. Worse is when I fall asleep on the backspace key. :-/ I wish I had switched to linux when I was learning the little bit that I did do under Unix. I'm sure I would have learned much more and been proficient by now. Getting old is not fun, sometimes. (I think you have at least ten years on me, but I'm feeling it too.) Thanks again Sure. Jack Wilborn Peoria, AZ -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iNmpnVngOprA_LmRw2zszV=p3jila4n7l4jwzjhjzo...@mail.gmail.com
