Re: Real-time window manager switching
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 06:42:41 +0800 csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bugreport time: ratpoison has no man page! There's a man page on my system and in the sources in the Debian archive (stable=1.0.0.cvs and testing=1.2.0.cvs). If you don't have a man page on your system I'd guess that this _is_ a bug and should be reported. Rupert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Real-time window manager switching
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:16:36 -0400
Kevin Coyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 05:22:21AM +0800, csj wrote..
I managed to find out Ion's restart_other option, but with
Ratpoison I appear to be trapped. I need to log-out of my XSession
before I can change WM.
I just started using Ion and quite like it, but haven't yet
discovered the restart_other option that you mention. I'd like to
use something like that to start Fluxbox up when I need to run Gimp.
Could you please provide a pointer as to where it is?
Just what I do:
You need two files: ~/.ion/{bindings-default.conf,ion.conf}. This will
be created if you start and exit Ion gracefully. ion.conf is necessary
to reference bindings-default.conf.
Create in ~/.ion/bindings-default.conf the second of the two lines
below (grep for the first line and insert):
kpress F12, query_yesno, Exit Ion (y/n)?, exit
kpress Mod1+F12, restart_other, fluxbox
Substitute your preferred bindings for Mod1+F12. I use Mod4 (the key
with the Evil Empire's trademark). Summary of available functions is
in:/usr/share/doc/ion/functions.txt
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Re: Real-time window manager switching
said csj (on 2002-10-25), On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 22:47:12 -0400 (EDT) Geordie Birch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: said csj (on 2002-10-24), I managed to find out Ion's restart_other option, but with Ratpoison I appear to be trapped. I need to log-out of my XSession before I can change WM. CTRL-t : newwm afterstep This works. Thanks. But where is this documented? Bugreport time: ratpoison has no man page! I was also kinda hoping for a more generic solution which I can apply to Gnome and KDE. I suppose it's a WM-dependent thing. It's documented in the ratpoison info pages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Real-time window manager switching
I treat window managers like themes or skins. Depending on the mood and need I run WindowMaker, Fluxbox, IceWM, Ion and (because of a recent thread) Ratpoison. With mouse-centric WM's like WidowMaker, I can change WM's simply by pointing to the corresponding Window Manager menu entry. With keyboard-centric WM's like Ion and Ratpoison, I need to figure out the precise commands to map to the key bindings. I managed to find out Ion's restart_other option, but with Ratpoison I appear to be trapped. I need to log-out of my XSession before I can change WM. So, is there a shell command sequence which I can type into an xterm to replace Ratpoison with another WM, while keeping my other X clients still running? I need the equivalent of a re-startx. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Real-time window manager switching
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 14:22, csj wrote: So, is there a shell command sequence which I can type into an xterm to replace Ratpoison with another WM, while keeping my other X clients still running? I need the equivalent of a re-startx. while I hack on blackbox what I usually do is start X so that a term window is the controlling window and not the window manager. When I change something or fix a bug I just exit the wm and start it back up. If I know I need gdb I usually run the wm from a second console so that way I can switch to it, debug, restart and switch back to X. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Real-time window manager switching
csj said: So, is there a shell command sequence which I can type into an xterm to replace Ratpoison with another WM, while keeping my other X clients still running? I need the equivalent of a re-startx. what about just killing the pid of the WM and loading a new WM? e.g. kill `pidof ratpoison` afterstep nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Real-time window manager switching
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 05:22:21AM +0800, csj wrote: So, is there a shell command sequence which I can type into an xterm to replace Ratpoison with another WM, while keeping my other X clients still running? I need the equivalent of a re-startx. This isn't a direct answer to your question, but selectwm may do what you want. It depends on a mouse, but it's nice to be able to exit a wm before knowing what wm you want to use next. You can exit your current wm and see a menu of other available wms. -- .~. /V\ Lance Simmons /( )\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^-^^ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Real-time window manager switching
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 05:22:21AM +0800, csj wrote.. I managed to find out Ion's restart_other option, but with Ratpoison I appear to be trapped. I need to log-out of my XSession before I can change WM. I just started using Ion and quite like it, but haven't yet discovered the restart_other option that you mention. I'd like to use something like that to start Fluxbox up when I need to run Gimp. Could you please provide a pointer as to where it is? Thanks Kevin -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Real-time window manager switching
said csj (on 2002-10-24), I managed to find out Ion's restart_other option, but with Ratpoison I appear to be trapped. I need to log-out of my XSession before I can change WM. CTRL-t : newwm afterstep -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
