Re: Lyx package recommends sgml-tools, but...

2003-02-11 Thread Brian Potkin
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 10:07:53PM -0500, David Z Maze wrote:

 Brian Potkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  /usr/share/doc/tetex-doc/texmf is your rather overwhelming starting
  point.  Diving into latex/general gets you what you want.
 
 You can use the 'texdoc' tool to conveniently read a file in this
 tree.  For a good beginner's reference, I'd recommend The Not So
 Short Introduction to LaTeX2e ('texdoc lshort').

texdoc is fine when the exact file name is known, which would imply a
familiarisation with what is available.  Who would guess that `texdoc
user' is what you need to read documentation about the babel package?

Exploring tex's range of documentation is made more convenient with
texdoctk.  It is available on Debian but does require X.

Brian.


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Lyx package recommends sgml-tools, but...

2003-02-10 Thread Paul E Condon
I just downloaded and installed Lyx using aptitude on a Sarge system. 
The package recommends also installing 'sgml-tools' which, from its 
name, sounds like a good idea, but the search function in aptitude 
cannot find a package of that name. Where might I find it?

Also, I am a beginner at TeX, LaTeX, etc. Please recommend tutorials, 
and 'getting started' documentation.

TIA

Paul

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Re: Lyx package recommends sgml-tools, but...

2003-02-10 Thread ronin2
The tutorial included with Lyx is about the best beginning reference I've
found.

Check out CTAN (Comprehensive TeX Archive Network) at www.ctan.org.

Leslie Lamport's book(s) on TeX/LaTeX are good.

Kevin

On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:59:39 -0800
Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just downloaded and installed Lyx using aptitude on a Sarge system. 
 The package recommends also installing 'sgml-tools' which, from its 
 name, sounds like a good idea, but the search function in aptitude 
 cannot find a package of that name. Where might I find it?
 
 Also, I am a beginner at TeX, LaTeX, etc. Please recommend tutorials, 
 and 'getting started' documentation.
 
 TIA
 
 Paul
 
 PS Reply to the list and CC me, or to me and CC the list. The list is so
 big now that I have missed things that are important to me.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Lyx package recommends sgml-tools, but...

2003-02-10 Thread Brian Potkin
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 09:59:39AM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote:

 I just downloaded and installed Lyx using aptitude on a Sarge system. 
 The package recommends also installing 'sgml-tools' which, from its 
 name, sounds like a good idea, but the search function in aptitude 
 cannot find a package of that name. Where might I find it?

A small point but Lyx suggests rather than recommends sgml-tools.

I'm unfamiliar with aptitude but it is a little surprising it does not give a
similar output to `dpkg -l sgml-tools', `apt-cache search sgml-tools' or
a package search on Debian's web page.

bash-2.05b$ apt-cache search sgml-tools
linuxdoc-tools - SGML converters for the LinuxDoc DTD only.
sgml-tools - Replaced by linuxdoc-tools (dummy package for upgrade) 

 Also, I am a beginner at TeX, LaTeX, etc. Please recommend tutorials, 
 and 'getting started' documentation.

/usr/share/doc/tetex-doc/texmf is your rather overwhelming starting
point.  Diving into latex/general gets you what you want.

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Re: Lyx package recommends sgml-tools, but...

2003-02-10 Thread Travis Crump
Brian Potkin wrote:

On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 09:59:39AM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote:



I just downloaded and installed Lyx using aptitude on a Sarge system. 
The package recommends also installing 'sgml-tools' which, from its 
name, sounds like a good idea, but the search function in aptitude 
cannot find a package of that name. Where might I find it?


A small point but Lyx suggests rather than recommends sgml-tools.

I'm unfamiliar with aptitude but it is a little surprising it does not give a
similar output to `dpkg -l sgml-tools', `apt-cache search sgml-tools' or
a package search on Debian's web page.

bash-2.05b$ apt-cache search sgml-tools
linuxdoc-tools - SGML converters for the LinuxDoc DTD only.
sgml-tools - Replaced by linuxdoc-tools (dummy package for upgrade) 



pretzalz@Pretzalz:~$ apt-cache search sgml-tools
linuxdoc-tools - SGML converters for the LinuxDoc DTD only.


What distro are you using, I can't find the dummy package in either 
testing or unstable so presumably it no longer exists.  It is probably a 
bug against lyx that it suggests a package that doesn't exist. @OP:  You 
want to install linuxdoc-tools in lieu of sgml-tools, though I am sure 
you already figured that out. ;)


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Re: Lyx package recommends sgml-tools, but...

2003-02-10 Thread Brian Potkin
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 05:14:58PM -0500, Travis Crump wrote:

 pretzalz@Pretzalz:~$ apt-cache search sgml-tools
 linuxdoc-tools - SGML converters for the LinuxDoc DTD only.
 
 
 What distro are you using, I can't find the dummy package in either 
 testing or unstable so presumably it no longer exists.  It is probably a 
 bug against lyx that it suggests a package that doesn't exist. @OP:  You 
 want to install linuxdoc-tools in lieu of sgml-tools, though I am sure 
 you already figured that out. ;)

I'm running testing and you're correct, the dummy package is only in
stable.  I assume that when this machine went from stable to testing it
pulled in linuxdoc-tools but for some reason or other sgml-tools was not
completely purged.  It was in the database as an obsolete package so
that probably accounts for the output I got from apt-cache search.
Anyway, I've just purged it and now have the same as your line above.

Brian.


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Re: Lyx package recommends sgml-tools, but...

2003-02-10 Thread David Z Maze
Brian Potkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 /usr/share/doc/tetex-doc/texmf is your rather overwhelming starting
 point.  Diving into latex/general gets you what you want.

You can use the 'texdoc' tool to conveniently read a file in this
tree.  For a good beginner's reference, I'd recommend The Not So
Short Introduction to LaTeX2e ('texdoc lshort').

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Re: sgml-tools, LinuxDoc, and customization

2000-01-27 Thread Joseph A. Martin

Hello,
Thanks for all of the replies. Last I check out the LDP (
about a week ago ) they said that all HOWTO's still needed to be in
LinuxDoc format instead of DocBook. I have not found any information
about customizing LinuxDoc though I have found plenty about DocBook.
My intention now is to dust off my small amount of sed knowledge and
write a sed script that will alter what I need altered.

later,
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Re: sgml-tools, LinuxDoc, and customization

2000-01-24 Thread Colin Marquardt
* J Horacio MG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 README.Debian file for sgml-tools says that version 1 is orphaned
 upstream. I take that to mean that I might not get help from the
 upstream authors.

 Not sure, but I think that even the sgmltools2 is orphaned by now.

Indeed. Because of lack of a maintainer.

 Anyway my problem is this: I am writing a HOWTO in LinuxDoc
 format. I would like to be able to (locally) customize the HTML output
 and add custom nav links to the top and bottom of each page. Is it
 possible to do this with SGML Tools v1? If so, what do I edit and
 change?

 I've seen this done with DocBook, not LinuxDoc.  Anyway, since the LDP
 is also adopting DocBook, you might consider it.

 In any case, there's a sgml tools list, which is still alive, though not
 much traffic on it.  To subscribe send a message to:

(Funny how often I'm reusing this little text in the last time:)

Stephane Bortzmeyer has a document about using SGML on a Debian
system, but this includes general information about SGML/XML/docbook 
as well: http://www.debian.org/%7Ebortz/SGML-HOWTO/

I also have a file called docbook-intro.sgml lying around, it says
it can be found at: http://nis-www.lanl.gov/~rosalia/

Two other links that belong into that proximity:
  http://home.sol.no/~vigu/dtds.html
  http://users.ox.ac.uk/%7Erahtz/passivetex

HTH,
  Colin

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Re: sgml-tools, LinuxDoc, and customization

2000-01-22 Thread J Horacio MG
 Hello,
   I am not sure exactly where to ask this question, but the
 README.Debian file for sgml-tools says that version 1 is orphaned
 upstream. I take that to mean that I might not get help from the
 upstream authors.

Not sure, but I think that even the sgmltools2 is orphaned by now.

   Anyway my problem is this: I am writing a HOWTO in LinuxDoc
 format. I would like to be able to (locally) customize the HTML output
 and add custom nav links to the top and bottom of each page. Is it
 possible to do this with SGML Tools v1? If so, what do I edit and
 change?

I've seen this done with DocBook, not LinuxDoc.  Anyway, since the LDP
is also adopting DocBook, you might consider it.

In any case, there's a sgml tools list, which is still alive, though not
much traffic on it.  To subscribe send a message to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and in the message body (no subject):

subscribe sgml-tools


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sgml-tools, LinuxDoc, and customization

2000-01-21 Thread Joseph A. Martin
Hello,
I am not sure exactly where to ask this question, but the
README.Debian file for sgml-tools says that version 1 is orphaned
upstream. I take that to mean that I might not get help from the
upstream authors.
Anyway my problem is this: I am writing a HOWTO in LinuxDoc
format. I would like to be able to (locally) customize the HTML output
and add custom nav links to the top and bottom of each page. Is it
possible to do this with SGML Tools v1? If so, what do I edit and
change?

later,
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Re: SGML-Tools

1998-03-04 Thread David S. Jackson
On Mon, 2 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 However, I don't have latex (nor latex2e). I have tetex instead. I thought 
 tetex is a latex substition, at least when looking at basics functionality. 
 Indeed the sgml-tools package did not comment on this, even though latex is 
 one of its sugestions. And in any case,

snip

 I had other difficulties with sgml2latex, for example with the -p 
 (postscript) 
 option.
 Eventualy, I succeded made sgml2latext convert the sgml file into dvi. Which 
 I 
 used with dvips to create the desired postscript file.

If memory serves, there are about 7 or 8 packages that comprise the TeTeX
distrib.  You might confirm that all of these installed correctly.  As
someone else mentioned, TeTeX is simply a LaTeX distribution.  You might
look into AuCTeX, another distribution; it looks to be quite full-featured
from my short time using it. 

I'm thinking your problem stems from some dependency on a resource that
either was not installed or did not install correctly and needs to be
reinstalled.
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sgml-tools ps problem

1998-03-04 Thread Richard Sevenich
I have newly installed sgml-tools and have used the formatter 'sgml2latex'
successfully except for producing postscript. The error message is

Error: Invalid value 'filename.sgml' for '--papersize'

As an sgml newbie I know not what to do e.g. does the sgmltool.dtd need
some editing somewhere?

TIA, Richard


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Re: SGML-Tools

1998-03-03 Thread shaul
 $ sgml2latex -a example.sgml 
 SGML-Tools driver version 0.99.7

The filenames have not changed accidentally, I am running the command from the 
same directory where the sgml file is, I have tried it with the the sgml-tools 
pkg (which was not an upgrade, but a fresh installation) and it is the 
standard example created long ago by Matt Wels.

However, I don't have latex (nor latex2e). I have tetex instead. I thought 
tetex is a latex substition, at least when looking at basics functionality. 
Indeed the sgml-tools package did not comment on this, even though latex is 
one of its sugestions. And in any case,

bash-2.00$ man sgml2latex

SGML2LATEX(1)   SGML2LATEX(1)

NAME
  sgml2latex  -  create plain text output from a SGML source
 file

SYNOPSIS
  sgml2latex  [-2e]  [-aCdglps]  [-style  s  ]   [-t   n   ]
]
  file[.sgml]

DESCRIPTION
  sgml2latex  converts  a  SGML source file to LaTeX output,

[...]
OPTIONS
   -2eUses LaTeX2e instead of LaTeX 2.09

I had other difficulties with sgml2latex, for example with the -p (postscript) 
option.
Eventualy, I succeded made sgml2latext convert the sgml file into dvi. Which I 
used with dvips to create the desired postscript file.
 



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TeTeX (was Re: SGML-Tools)

1998-03-03 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
In an article [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|However, I don't have latex (nor latex2e). I have tetex instead. I
|thought tetex is a latex substition, at least when looking at basics
|functionality. Indeed the sgml-tools package did not comment on this,
|even though latex is one of its sugestions. And in any case,

Just a point of clarification. TeTex is just a LaTeX2e distribution,
just as Debian is a linux distribution. TeTeX includes various things
that make it easier to get a LaTeX installation up and running.

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SGML-Tools

1998-03-01 Thread shaul
Am I using it in a wrong manner or is there a bug:

$ sgml2latex -a example.sgml 
SGML-Tools driver version 0.99.7

Usage:
  driver.pl format [options] infile
General options:
  --papersize={a4,letter} -s {a4,letter}
  --language={en,english,english,de,deutsch,german,nl,nederlands,dutch,fr,franç
ais,french} -l {en,english,english,de,deutsch,german,nl,nederlands,dutch,fr,fra
nçais,french}
  --charset={latin,ascii} -c {latin,ascii}
  --style=string -S string
  --tabsize=number -t number
  --verbose -v
  --debug -d

Format: latex2e
  Note that this output format requires LaTeX 2e.

  --output={dvi,tex,ps} -o {dvi,tex,ps}
  --bibtex -b
  --quick -q

Error: Unknown option -a

$  man sgml2latex

SGML2LATEX(1)   SGML2LATEX(1)

NAME
   sgml2latex  -  create plain text output from a SGML source
   file

SYNOPSIS
   sgml2latex  [-2e]  [-aCdglps]  [-style  s  ]   [-t   n   ]
]
   file[.sgml]

DESCRIPTION
   sgml2latex  converts  a  SGML source file to LaTeX output,
   using the sgmls(1) parser, and the sgmlsasp(1) translator.
   Using  the  LaTeX output, and the latex(1) text formatter,
   you can then create  DVI  output,  and  PostScript  output
   using  the  dvips(1)  converter.  Output  will  appear  in
   file.tex for LaTeX output, file.dvi  for  DVI  output,  or
   file.ps  for  PostScript output, where file is the name of
   the SGML source file.

OPTIONS
   -2eUses LaTeX2e instead of LaTeX 2.09

   -a Uses DIN A4 page layout, default US letter

   -C Single chapter

   -d Creates DVI output instead of LaTeX

   -l Allows use of latin1 (ISO-8859-1) characters in the
  SGML source file, default ASCII only

   -g Uses german.sty

   -p Creates PostScript output instead of LaTeX

   -s Saves all LaTeX temporary files

 ...


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Re: SGML-Tools

1998-03-01 Thread David S. Jackson
On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am I using it in a wrong manner or is there a bug:
 
 $ sgml2latex -a example.sgml 
 SGML-Tools driver version 0.99.7

Hmmm.  It works for me using this syntax.  Here are some considerations:

No filenames have changed accidentally?  (No ~'s or spaces or case
changes, or sgm instead of sgml?

Are you running the command from the same directory where the sgml file
is?

Have you tried it with the linuxdoc pkg (earlier than the sgml-tools pkg)?
Or if you upgraded, perhaps you have a version mismatch (I'm still using
Linuxdoc, so I can't be surethis would be a problem).

Is this your example or the standard example created long ago by Matt
Welsh?  (If it's yours, is it a valid SGML file?  Does nsgmls parse it?)

Did you verify your LaTeX2e installation?  (Is it all there?  Any relevant
release notes?)

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Linuxdoc/sgml-tools/perlsgml

1997-05-18 Thread Rick Jones

I need to use linuxdoc to write some help files, but the sgml2lyx isn't
working.  I get an error stating linuxdoc.dtd is missing but is is exactly
where the script is looking for it.

The perlsgml package is broken since the version in bo depends on
perl-base and not perl.  The version in unstable was corected to depend on
perl or perl-base but the file is missing or named completely off the
package name.  From both directories now.

There are files named psgml in both directories.

Are the psgml files what I need and will this fix the sgml2lyx problem?

If not, what's the deal with sgml2lyx?  I've never used this package
before so I'm clueless here.

L8R,

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Re: Linuxdoc/sgml-tools/perlsgml

1997-05-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

psgml is merely an Emacs major mode for editing SGML files,
 and not really related to perlsgml --- Unfortunately, I have not used
 lyx, and currently do not have linuxdoc-sgml installed (I removed it
 a couple of weeks ago, for reasons that escape me now), so I can't
 help you with sgml2lyx ...

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sgml-tools cannot produce html

1997-03-26 Thread Dumont Frederic
I cannot produce html files with sgml2html (even example.sgml and
guide.sgml). Apparently, other kinds of output work fine. I suppose
the problem is in sgml-tools (I use version 0.99.7-1)

It says :
Processing file example.sgml
/usr/bin/sgmlsasp: /usr/lib/sgml-tools/rep/html/mapping:326: bad input
character `\'

and stops.

The lines causing problems are
table +   CENTERTABLE BORDERTRTD\n  +
/table+   /TD/TR/TABLE/CENTER\n +

tabular   +   BR\n+
/tabular  +   \n+

When I remove them (I have to remove them, because just commenting
them out doesn't work), there's no complain any more, but sgmlsasp
fills the memory and nothing else happens.

So, is it a bug or am I missing something?

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