Re: SMTP password
On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 06:06:26PM -0900, Adam Shand wrote: . .there isn't a debian sendmail 8.10 package yet but there is the sasl .packages (libsasl7 and libsasl-dev). . a deb of 8.10 is now in the unstable archive and the upgrade from 8.9.3 is relatively painless. a couple of notes: + the sendmail.cw file has been replaced by local-host-names file + if you used FEATURE(rbl) it has been superceded by FEATURE(dnsbl) i believe both are mentioned in the changelog. i haven't seen a lot of doco on implementing SMTP AUTH but am very interested in this! thx, mark -- and the ultimate cruelty of loves' pinions beset his appearance
Re: SMTP password
a deb of 8.10 is now in the unstable archive and the upgrade from 8.9.3 is relatively painless. has it been compilied against the sasl libraries? i haven't seen a lot of doco on implementing SMTP AUTH but am very interested in this! the only really good docs are on claus' home page that was the url in my previous message. adam.
Re: SMTP password
There were no other way. Were can I get sendmail 8.10 and the sasl patches? there isn't a debian sendmail 8.10 package yet but there is the sasl packages (libsasl7 and libsasl-dev). download sendmail source from www.sendmail.org and there is some good info on how to make it all work in the docs in the tar ball and at www.sendmail.net. also there is good info on Claus' home page. http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html hope that helps, adam.
Re: SMTP password
there isn't a debian sendmail 8.10 package yet but there is the sasl packages (libsasl7 and libsasl-dev). Actually there is a debian package of sendmail 8.10. You can find it at http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/mail/sendmail.html -- Emil Soleyman-Zomalan
Re: SMTP password
Adam Shand wrote: if neither of these are possible you're other options is to setup sendmail 8.10 with the sasl patches to talk smtp auth to their server. this is not a trivial solution though and i would recommend agaist it (simply because it's complicated) unless there really no other way. adam. There were no other way. Were can I get sendmail 8.10 and the sasl patches? Thanks, Camilo Alejandro Arboleda -- * De simio la conoci y he visto hombres que la añoran. * En lo que a mi se refiere, ni entonces ni ahora * perdi mi libertad. Informe para una academia. Franz Kafka
SMTP password
Hello! I have a problem: my ISP ask me for username and password to send e-mail by smtp. With Netscape is easy to configure it, but I don't know how to do that with smail or sendmail. Can somebody help me? Thanks, Camilo Alejandro Arboleda. P.S. Sorry, terrible English. -- * De simio la conoci y he visto hombres que la añoran. * En lo que a mi se refiere, ni entonces ni ahora * perdi mi libertad. Informe para una academia. Franz Kafka
Re: SMTP password
Hello! I have a problem: my ISP ask me for username and password to send e-mail by smtp. With Netscape is easy to configure it, but I don't know how to do that with smail or sendmail. Can somebody help me? the problem is: smtp has NO password at all (AFAIK). the point is, you have to do POP before SMTP to authorize yourself, which netscape does normally. when using an mta (e.g. sendmail) you have to do a fetchmail before sending any e-mail. on one box i configured i simply put a fetchmail in the ppp-up script, that is, fetchmail is called directly after dialing in. a problem arises, if you stay on-line that long, that your authorization times out - then you would have to fetchmail before sending e-mail again. but i thing it is a good idea to run fetchmail as a daemon as long as you are on-line, so it checks for mail and holds your smpt-authorization open every, say 10, minutes. in short: put a fetchmail -d 600 in your /etc/ppp/ppp-up put a fetchmail --quit in your /etc/ppp/ppp-down (i'm not sure if the files are in /etc/ppp/ on debian, as i set up a suse box.) P.S. Sorry, terrible English. not that bad - at least not worse than mine :-) -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need.
Re: SMTP password
Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: Hello! I have a problem: my ISP ask me for username and password to send e-mail by smtp. With Netscape is easy to configure it, but I don't know how to do that with smail or sendmail. Can somebody help me? the problem is: smtp has NO password at all (AFAIK). the point is, you have to do POP before SMTP to authorize yourself, which netscape does normally. This is not true. SMTP can have the AUTH extension to allow user/password authentication. This mechanism is used by many ISPs and is implemented in mail SMTP servers (including recent sendmail versions). when using an mta (e.g. sendmail) you have to do a fetchmail before sending any e-mail. on one box i configured i simply put a fetchmail in the ppp-up script, that is, fetchmail is called directly after dialing in. a problem arises, if you stay on-line that long, that your authorization times out - then you would have to fetchmail before sending e-mail again. but i thing it is a good idea to run fetchmail as a daemon as long as you are on-line, so it checks for mail and holds your smpt-authorization open every, say 10, minutes. in short: put a fetchmail -d 600 in your /etc/ppp/ppp-up put a fetchmail --quit in your /etc/ppp/ppp-down (i'm not sure if the files are in /etc/ppp/ on debian, as i set up a suse box.) P.S. Sorry, terrible English. not that bad - at least not worse than mine :-) -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMTP password
I have a problem: my ISP ask me for username and password to send e-mail by smtp. With Netscape is easy to configure it, but I don't know how to do that with smail or sendmail. Can somebody help me? the problem is: smtp has NO password at all (AFAIK). the point is, you have to do POP before SMTP to authorize yourself, which netscape does normally. actually with sendmail 8.10 and various other patches now available for other mta's smtp auth is starting to spread. it is possible that you are being asked for a password, though it's unusual that they will insist on one unless you are considered *OUTSIDE* of their ip space and thus get caught by their anti-relay rules. my first suggestion would be to do one of these things: * get your isp to add your ip address to their access list so you can send mail through their server without requiring authentication. * don't use your isp's mail servers, you obviously have a linux box just send mail directly from it (may be impossible if your isp filters port 25 traffic at their router but not many do). if neither of these are possible you're other options is to setup sendmail 8.10 with the sasl patches to talk smtp auth to their server. this is not a trivial solution though and i would recommend agaist it (simply because it's complicated) unless there really no other way. when using an mta (e.g. sendmail) you have to do a fetchmail before sending any e-mail. on one box i configured i simply put a fetchmail in the ppp-up script, that is, fetchmail is called directly after dialing in. a problem arises, if you stay on-line that long, that your authorization times out - then you would have to fetchmail before sending e-mail again. but i thing it is a good idea to run fetchmail as a daemon as long as you are on-line, so it checks for mail and holds your smpt-authorization open every, say 10, minutes. this will work if your isp supports pop before smtp, but if you are being prompted for a password that is most likely not the problem. adam.
