Re: Sound - none happening.......
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 11:25:26 +1100, Charlie wrote: On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:45:05 +0100 Florian Kulzer shared this with us all: It seems that you have muted all your playback channels ([off]), so I am not too surprised that you do not hear anything. You have to unmute at least Master and PCM, possibly other channels as well. [...] I thought that the sliders were sufficient to move up and have sound working. I didn't realise that the MM was mute, or how to access the control to them anyway. So thank you for that as well. I could have sworn that the volume sliders tend to be at zero by default but I do not remember channels being not muted. You had already mentioned increasing the volume levels, therefore I initially focused on (re-)checking the order of your cards, which is the other common cause for no sound even though the relevant modules are loaded. But I have to wonder why alsamixer makes it so you can't hear sound, mute the mixer by default? Shouldn't the default be unmute? That's probably just me though. The commonly-cited reason for having zero volume by default is to avoid accidental damage to the audio equipment and the ears of the user. The idea is that you can start something like speaker-test and then gradually increase the volume levels until they fit your equipment and personal preferences, without running the risk of having too high a volume at any point. This default behavior causes a lot of confusion, unfortunately. -- Regards,| Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Sound - none happening.......
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 17:11:52 +1100, Charlie wrote: On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:14:25 +0100 Florian Kulzer shared this with us all: On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 22:55:51 +1100, Charlie wrote: On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:23:01 +0100 Florian Kulzer shared this with us all: On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 15:04:10 +1100, Charlie wrote: Always had trouble getting sound to work with Debian, never had it working with Squeeze, though I might see if I could get it going again: Acer 3614WLCi laptop $ lspci | grep -i audio 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) [ snip: kernel modules loaded, order of cards, etc. all seem to be OK ] aplay -lL default:CARD=ICH6 Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 Default Audio Device [...] List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH6] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH6 - IEC958] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: pcsp [pcsp], device 0: pcspeaker [pcsp] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 2: Modem [Intel ICH6 Modem], device 0: Intel ICH - Modem [Intel ICH6 Modem - Modem] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 That looks OK, too. amixer Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Front Left: Playback 15 [48%] [-24.00dB] [off] Front Right: Playback 15 [48%] [-24.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 15 [48%] [-24.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Front Left: Playback 15 [48%] [-12.00dB] [off] Front Right: Playback 15 [48%] [-12.00dB] [off] [...] It seems that you have muted all your playback channels ([off]), so I am not too surprised that you do not hear anything. You have to unmute at least Master and PCM, possibly other channels as well. Try amixer set Master unmute amixer set PCM unmute for a start. You can also use alsamixer interactively while you run speaker-test so that you will hear the effects of your changes immediately. (In alsamixer, use CURSOR LEFT/RIGHT to select a channel, CURSOR UP/DOWN to change the volume, M to mute/unmute, and ESC to exit.) -- Regards,| Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Sound - none happening.......
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:45:05 +0100 Florian Kulzer florian.kulzer+deb...@icfo.es shared this with us all: It seems that you have muted all your playback channels ([off]), so I am not too surprised that you do not hear anything. You have to unmute at least Master and PCM, possibly other channels as well. Try amixer set Master unmute amixer set PCM unmute for a start. You can also use alsamixer interactively while you run speaker-test so that you will hear the effects of your changes immediately. (In alsamixer, use CURSOR LEFT/RIGHT to select a channel, CURSOR UP/DOWN to change the volume, M to mute/unmute, and ESC to exit.) You're probably sick of me telling you that you're a legend Florian, so I won't do it again - this time. I thought that the sliders were sufficient to move up and have sound working. I didn't realise that the MM was mute, or how to access the control to them anyway. So thank you for that as well. But I have to wonder why alsamixer makes it so you can't hear sound, mute the mixer by default? Shouldn't the default be unmute? That's probably just me though. Thank you again, and for previous help again, your time and perseverance are not trivial and very much appreciated. I am Listening to Iz - Somewhere Over the Rainbow as I type out my gratitude. Stay well, Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 . Things of the past are already gone And things to be, Distant beyond imagining. The Tao is just this moment, These words: Plum blossoms fallen, Gardenia just opening. - Ch'ing Kung ( d. 1352) . Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Sound - none happening.......
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 22:50:18 +1100 Charlie wrote: # alsamixergui what shows? (master, pcm, front, surro, center, etc.?) thx. I must apologise to you - you had the right idea regarding that the appropriate (master, pcm, front, surro, center, etc.?) may be muted, but as I mentioned to Florian, I had no idea how to access the MM or that MM meant mute. So thank you for the solution, I was just too thick to know what to do about it. Be well, Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 . What right have I to grieve, who have not ceased to wonder? .Henry David Thoreau . Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Sound - none happening.......
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 15:04:10 +1100, Charlie wrote: Hello, Always had trouble getting sound to work with Debian, never had it working with Squeeze, though I might see if I could get it going again: Acer 3614WLCi laptop $ lspci | grep -i audio 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) [ snip: it seems that your system has loaded the relevant modules ] $ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [ICH6 ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH6 Intel ICH6 with ALC655 at irq 21 1 [pcsp ]: PC-Speaker - pcsp Internal PC-Speaker at port 0x61 2 [Modem ]: ICH-MODEM - Intel ICH6 Modem Intel ICH6 Modem at irq 21 That looks good, too; the right card has number 0. [...] The following doesn't work: # udevtrigger --verbose --subsystem-match=sound -su: udevtrigger: command not found For the current version of udev, this command should be: udevadm trigger --verbose --subsystem-match=sound I do not think that it will make any difference in your case, though. [...] Possibly someone could point me further, or see what I'm missing. I've been without any sound so long, I don't really miss it, but it would just be nice to have my Squeeze system working as it should. Everything seems to be OK; do you get an error message if you run speaker-test -t sine -c 2 ? -- Regards,| Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Sound - none happening.......
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:28:54 -0700 pplaw pp...@pcisys.net sent this information: On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 03:04:10PM +1100, Charlie wrote: Hello, Always had trouble getting sound to work with Debian, never had it working with Squeeze, though I might see if I could get it going again: Acer 3614WLCi laptop $ lspci | grep -i audio 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) I see a bug on the net against the hardware above on Ubuntu? It is said it can be worked around with alsa-lib, but not how that might be done. $ lsmod | grep snd snd_intel8x0 19523 1 snd_intel8x0m 8100 0 snd_ac97_codec 79136 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m __deletia__ Installed: v alsa - i alsa-base - ALSA driver configuration files i alsa-firmware-loaders - ALSA software loaders for specific hardwar i alsa-oss- ALSA wrapper for OSS applications i alsa-tools - Console based ALSA utilities for specific i alsa-tools-gui - GUI based ALSA utilities for specific hard i alsa-utils - ALSA utilities i alsamixergui- graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA __deletia__ Possibly someone could point me further, or see what I'm missing. I've been without any sound so long, I don't really miss it, but it would just be nice to have my Squeeze system working as it should. TIA Charlie -- // # alsamixergui what shows? (master, pcm, front, surro, center, etc.?) thx. All show as being half way up the slider scale. As does AlsaMixer v1.0.21 and the correct sound card is selected. Thank you. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 . How could youths better learn to live than by at once trying the experiment of living? - Henry David Thoreau . Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Sound - none happening.......
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:23:01 +0100 Florian Kulzer florian.kulzer+deb...@icfo.es shared this with us all: On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 15:04:10 +1100, Charlie wrote: Hello, Always had trouble getting sound to work with Debian, never had it working with Squeeze, though I might see if I could get it going again: Acer 3614WLCi laptop $ lspci | grep -i audio 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) [ snip: it seems that your system has loaded the relevant modules ] $ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [ICH6 ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH6 Intel ICH6 with ALC655 at irq 21 1 [pcsp ]: PC-Speaker - pcsp Internal PC-Speaker at port 0x61 2 [Modem ]: ICH-MODEM - Intel ICH6 Modem Intel ICH6 Modem at irq 21 That looks good, too; the right card has number 0. [...] The following doesn't work: # udevtrigger --verbose --subsystem-match=sound -su: udevtrigger: command not found For the current version of udev, this command should be: udevadm trigger --verbose --subsystem-match=sound I do not think that it will make any difference in your case, though. [...] Possibly someone could point me further, or see what I'm missing. I've been without any sound so long, I don't really miss it, but it would just be nice to have my Squeeze system working as it should. Everything seems to be OK; do you get an error message if you run speaker-test -t sine -c 2 ? Thanks Florian, speaker-test -t sine -c 2 speaker-test 1.0.21 Playback device is default Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels Sine wave rate is 440.Hz Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz) Buffer size range from 2048 to 8192 Period size range from 1024 to 1024 Using max buffer size 8192 Periods = 4 was set period_size = 1024 was set buffer_size = 8192 0 - Front Left 1 - Front Right Time per period = 5.822096 This goes on until I kill it but no sound. [shrug] Don't know if that's what you expected? Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 . The language of friendship is not words but meanings. .Henry David Thoreau . Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Sound - none happening.......
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 22:55:51 +1100, Charlie wrote: On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:23:01 +0100 Florian Kulzer shared this with us all: On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 15:04:10 +1100, Charlie wrote: Always had trouble getting sound to work with Debian, never had it working with Squeeze, though I might see if I could get it going again: Acer 3614WLCi laptop $ lspci | grep -i audio 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) [ snip: it seems that your system has loaded the relevant modules ] $ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [ICH6 ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH6 Intel ICH6 with ALC655 at irq 21 1 [pcsp ]: PC-Speaker - pcsp Internal PC-Speaker at port 0x61 2 [Modem ]: ICH-MODEM - Intel ICH6 Modem Intel ICH6 Modem at irq 21 [...] speaker-test -t sine -c 2 speaker-test 1.0.21 Playback device is default Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels Sine wave rate is 440.Hz Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz) Buffer size range from 2048 to 8192 Period size range from 1024 to 1024 Using max buffer size 8192 Periods = 4 was set period_size = 1024 was set buffer_size = 8192 0 - Front Left 1 - Front Right Time per period = 5.822096 This goes on until I kill it but no sound. The system acts as if everything is alright, so you do not have a problem with some daemon blocking access to the device. Time to look at the mixer settings; please post the output of: aplay -lL amixer -- Regards,| Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Sound - none happening.......
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:14:25 +0100 Florian Kulzer florian.kulzer+deb...@icfo.es shared this with us all: On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 22:55:51 +1100, Charlie wrote: On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:23:01 +0100 Florian Kulzer shared this with us all: On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 15:04:10 +1100, Charlie wrote: Always had trouble getting sound to work with Debian, never had it working with Squeeze, though I might see if I could get it going again: Acer 3614WLCi laptop $ lspci | grep -i audio 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) [ snip: it seems that your system has loaded the relevant modules ] $ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [ICH6 ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH6 Intel ICH6 with ALC655 at irq 21 1 [pcsp ]: PC-Speaker - pcsp Internal PC-Speaker at port 0x61 2 [Modem ]: ICH-MODEM - Intel ICH6 Modem Intel ICH6 Modem at irq 21 [...] speaker-test -t sine -c 2 speaker-test 1.0.21 Playback device is default Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels Sine wave rate is 440.Hz Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz) Buffer size range from 2048 to 8192 Period size range from 1024 to 1024 Using max buffer size 8192 Periods = 4 was set period_size = 1024 was set buffer_size = 8192 0 - Front Left 1 - Front Right Time per period = 5.822096 This goes on until I kill it but no sound. The system acts as if everything is alright, so you do not have a problem with some daemon blocking access to the device. Time to look at the mixer settings; please post the output of: aplay -lL amixer Thanks Florian, Here it is: aplay -lL default:CARD=ICH6 Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 Default Audio Device front:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0 Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 Front speakers surround40:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0 Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers surround41:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0 Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround50:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0 Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers surround51:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0 Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers iec958:CARD=ICH6,DEV=0 Intel ICH6, Intel ICH6 - IEC958 IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output null Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture) default:CARD=pcsp pcsp, pcsp Default Audio Device front:CARD=pcsp,DEV=0 pcsp, pcsp Front speakers List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH6] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH6 - IEC958] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: pcsp [pcsp], device 0: pcspeaker [pcsp] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 2: Modem [Intel ICH6 Modem], device 0: Intel ICH - Modem [Intel ICH6 Modem - Modem] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 amixer Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Front Left: Playback 15 [48%] [-24.00dB] [off] Front Right: Playback 15 [48%] [-24.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 15 [48%] [-24.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Front Left: Playback 15 [48%] [-12.00dB] [off] Front Right: Playback 15 [48%] [-12.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'Surround',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Front Left: Playback 15 [48%] [-24.00dB] [off] Front Right: Playback 15 [48%] [-24.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'Surround Jack Mode',0 Capabilities: enum Items: 'Shared' 'Independent' Item0: 'Shared' Simple mixer control 'Center',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 15 [48%] [-24.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'LFE',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 15 [48%] [-24.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'Line',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 15 [48%] [-12.00dB]
Sound - none happening.......
Hello, Always had trouble getting sound to work with Debian, never had it working with Squeeze, though I might see if I could get it going again: Acer 3614WLCi laptop $ lspci | grep -i audio 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) I see a bug on the net against the hardware above on Ubuntu? It is said it can be worked around with alsa-lib, but not how that might be done. $ lsmod | grep snd snd_intel8x0 19523 1 snd_intel8x0m 8100 0 snd_ac97_codec 79136 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m ac97_bus 710 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcsp5219 0 snd_pcm_oss28479 0 snd_mixer_oss 10461 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm47350 5 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcsp,snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_midi3480 0 snd_rawmidi12313 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 3684 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq35303 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 12258 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 3673 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq snd33551 13 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcsp,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 3450 1 snd snd_page_alloc 4977 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m,snd_pcm $ dpkg -l alsa-base Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii alsa-base 1.0.21+dfsg-2 ALSA driver configuration files $ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [ICH6 ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH6 Intel ICH6 with ALC655 at irq 21 1 [pcsp ]: PC-Speaker - pcsp Internal PC-Speaker at port 0x61 2 [Modem ]: ICH-MODEM - Intel ICH6 Modem Intel ICH6 Modem at irq 21 Installed: v alsa - i alsa-base - ALSA driver configuration files i alsa-firmware-loaders - ALSA software loaders for specific hardwar i alsa-oss- ALSA wrapper for OSS applications i alsa-tools - Console based ALSA utilities for specific i alsa-tools-gui - GUI based ALSA utilities for specific hard i alsa-utils - ALSA utilities i alsamixergui- graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundca v alsaplayer - i A alsaplayer-alsa - PCM player designed for ALSA (ALSA output i alsaplayer-common - PCM player designed for ALSA (common files i alsaplayer-esd - PCM player designed for ALSA (EsounD outpu i A alsaplayer-gtk - PCM player designed for ALSA (GTK+ version The following doesn't work: # udevtrigger --verbose --subsystem-match=sound -su: udevtrigger: command not found My: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base-blacklist.conf Is like this: # Uncomment these entries in order to blacklist unwanted modem drivers # blacklist snd-atiixp-modem # blacklist snd-intel8x0m # blacklist snd-via82xx-modem # Comment this entry in order to load snd-pcsp driver # blacklist snd-pcsp # Comment this entry in order to load pcspkr driver Possibly someone could point me further, or see what I'm missing. I've been without any sound so long, I don't really miss it, but it would just be nice to have my Squeeze system working as it should. TIA Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 . At a given moment I open my eyes and exist. And before that, during all eternity, what was there? Nothing. - Ugo Betti . Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
