Re: Switch console in xterm

1999-06-27 Thread Daniel Barclay

 From: Remco van 't Veer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
 Use the -X switch.
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 24, 1999 at 20:06, Daniel Barclay wrote:
 
   From: David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  ...
   ... less uses
   the alternate screen, and you can switch back and forth with Ctrl
   and a mouse button ...
  
  Can that behavior of less be turned off?


Thanks,

Daniel


Re: Switch console in xterm

1999-06-25 Thread Daniel Barclay

 From: David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]

...
 Well there's also the concept of an Alternate Screen in xterm. That's
 why you don't see, for example, the last screenfull of output from
 less when you quit, but just your interactive commands. less uses
 the alternate screen, and you can switch back and forth with Ctrl
 and a mouse button ...

Can that behavior of less be turned off?


Daniel



Re: Switch console in xterm

1999-06-25 Thread Daniel Barclay


 From: David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]

...
 Well there's also the concept of an Alternate Screen in xterm. That's
 why you don't see, for example, the last screenfull of output from
 less when you quit, but just your interactive commands. less uses
 the alternate screen, and you can switch back and forth with Ctrl
 and a mouse button ...

Can that behavior of less be turned off?


Daniel




Re: Switch console in xterm

1999-06-25 Thread Remco van 't Veer
Use the -X switch.


On Thu, Jun 24, 1999 at 20:06, Daniel Barclay wrote:

  From: David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 ...
  Well there's also the concept of an Alternate Screen in xterm. That's
  why you don't see, for example, the last screenfull of output from
  less when you quit, but just your interactive commands. less uses
  the alternate screen, and you can switch back and forth with Ctrl
  and a mouse button ...
 
 Can that behavior of less be turned off?
 
 
 Daniel


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Switch console in xterm

1999-06-16 Thread ktb
Somewhere I heard there exists a program that will allow you to switch
consoles in an xterm.  In other words it would be like switching
consoles with ctrl+alt+F* but from within a single xterm window.  I
poked around in the packages at the Debian site but can't find
anything.  I don't even know what to call it.  Makes it a little hard to
search for:)  Let me know if you've heard of such a thing.
Thanks,
kent


Re: Switch console in xterm

1999-06-16 Thread Gareth
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, ktb wrote:
 Somewhere I heard there exists a program that will allow you to switch
 consoles in an xterm.  In other words it would be like switching
 consoles with ctrl+alt+F* but from within a single xterm window.  I
 poked around in the packages at the Debian site but can't find
 anything.  I don't even know what to call it.  Makes it a little hard to
 search for:)  Let me know if you've heard of such a thing.

You might be looking for a thing called screen it makes multiple
consoles(windows) in any terminal (not just xterm) you can get it form any
of the GNU mirrors eg...
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/gnu/screen/

its pretty good once you get it working properly and it'll allow you to
suspend the windows and reattach them to a different session and lots of
other handy things.



---Gareth


Re: Switch console in xterm

1999-06-16 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 16 Jun, Gareth wrote about Re: Switch console in xterm
 On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, ktb wrote:
 Somewhere I heard there exists a program that will allow you to switch
 consoles in an xterm.  In other words it would be like switching
 consoles with ctrl+alt+F* but from within a single xterm window.  I
 poked around in the packages at the Debian site but can't find
 anything.  I don't even know what to call it.  Makes it a little hard to
 search for:)  Let me know if you've heard of such a thing.
 
 You might be looking for a thing called screen it makes multiple
 consoles(windows) in any terminal (not just xterm) you can get it form any
 of the GNU mirrors eg...
 http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/gnu/screen/
 

Use the Debian package if this is what you want, screen is in its own
Debian package in the misc section.

Are you talking about switching between desktops under X?  Most
modern window managers under X support some form of multiple desktops
and virtual desktops. 

-- 
Brian 
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Mechanical Engineering  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Purdue University   http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis
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Re: Switch console in xterm

1999-06-16 Thread ktb
Brian Servis wrote:
 
 *- On 16 Jun, Gareth wrote about Re: Switch console in xterm
  On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, ktb wrote:
  Somewhere I heard there exists a program that will allow you to switch
  consoles in an xterm.  In other words it would be like switching
  consoles with ctrl+alt+F* but from within a single xterm window.  I
  poked around in the packages at the Debian site but can't find
  anything.  I don't even know what to call it.  Makes it a little hard to
  search for:)  Let me know if you've heard of such a thing.
 
  You might be looking for a thing called screen it makes multiple
  consoles(windows) in any terminal (not just xterm) you can get it form any
  of the GNU mirrors eg...
  http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/gnu/screen/
 
 
 Use the Debian package if this is what you want, screen is in its own
 Debian package in the misc section.
 
 Are you talking about switching between desktops under X?  Most
 modern window managers under X support some form of multiple desktops
 and virtual desktops.

No not switching desktops in X.  Switching the screen within a single
xterm.  I'll check out 'screen.'
Thanks guys:)
kent


Re: Switch console in xterm

1999-06-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting ktb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Brian Servis wrote:
  
  *- On 16 Jun, Gareth wrote about Re: Switch console in xterm
   On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, ktb wrote:
   Somewhere I heard there exists a program that will allow you to switch
   consoles in an xterm.  In other words it would be like switching
   consoles with ctrl+alt+F* but from within a single xterm window.  I
   poked around in the packages at the Debian site but can't find
   anything.  I don't even know what to call it.  Makes it a little hard to
   search for:)  Let me know if you've heard of such a thing.
  
   You might be looking for a thing called screen it makes multiple
   consoles(windows) in any terminal (not just xterm) you can get it form any
   of the GNU mirrors eg...
   http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/gnu/screen/
  
  
  Use the Debian package if this is what you want, screen is in its own
  Debian package in the misc section.
  
  Are you talking about switching between desktops under X?  Most
  modern window managers under X support some form of multiple desktops
  and virtual desktops.
 
 No not switching desktops in X.  Switching the screen within a single
 xterm.  I'll check out 'screen.'

Well there's also the concept of an Alternate Screen in xterm. That's
why you don't see, for example, the last screenfull of output from
less when you quit, but just your interactive commands. less uses
the alternate screen, and you can switch back and forth with Ctrl
and a mouse button (right for me, but I think that's non-standard).

Cheers,

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Re: Switch console in xterm

1999-06-16 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 16 Jun, David Wright wrote about Re: Switch console in xterm
 
 Well there's also the concept of an Alternate Screen in xterm. That's
 why you don't see, for example, the last screenfull of output from
 less when you quit, but just your interactive commands. less uses
 the alternate screen, and you can switch back and forth with Ctrl
 and a mouse button (right for me, but I think that's non-standard).
 

Cool!  As they say You learn something new everyday!  For me it was
Ctrl-Btn2 then select Show Alternate Screen.  Amazing!

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Re: Switch console in xterm

1999-06-16 Thread John Foster
Brian Servis wrote:
 
 *- On 16 Jun, David Wright wrote about Re: Switch console in xterm
 
  Well there's also the concept of an Alternate Screen in xterm. That's
  why you don't see, for example, the last screenfull of output from
  less when you quit, but just your interactive commands. less uses
  the alternate screen, and you can switch back and forth with Ctrl
  and a mouse button (right for me, but I think that's non-standard).
 
 
 Cool!  As they say You learn something new everyday!  For me it was
 Ctrl-Btn2 then select Show Alternate Screen.  Amazing!
-
Double Cool! I decided to try out the same thing with Gnome-term and
discovered hidden/unknown functions there also. Where are these types of
things docummented? BTW; ETerm does not have any.
-- 
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