Re: stretch uefi install ends up with no framebuffer for console

2020-07-18 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 16:45:33 +
rbraun204  wrote:

> Hey all,  i'm installing stretch onto a HP Z4G4 workstation via
> netboot and in uefi mode.   The only video hardware in the box is a
> NVIDIA Corporation GP107GL [Quadro P620].   The install goes as
> expected.  Only installed standard utils and ssh server.
> 
> On first boot grub comes up and boots into the default entry,   the
> only text after on the screen is the loading linux/initrd echo entries
> from grub.   Thought it was frozen, but noticed my dhcp service got a
> req from the box and sure enough i can ssh in and the machine is up
> and running,  just no output to the monitor.   Still just the grub
> statements up on the screen.
> 
> running hwinfo --framebuffer results in no output.
> 
> efifb appears to get loaded and has grubs resolution
> [1.451694] efifb: probing for efifb
> [1.451712] efifb: framebuffer at 0xe000, using 8640k, total 8640k
> [1.451712] efifb: mode is 1920x1080x32, linelength=8192, pages=1
> [1.451713] efifb: scrolling: redraw
> [1.451713] efifb: Truecolor: size=8:8:8:8, shift=24:16:8:0
> [1.484650] fb0: EFI VGA frame buffer device
> 
> 
> installed the latest kernel from stretch-backports, reboot.  Same
> behavior as above.
> 
> Installed nvidia-driver (proper for this gpu), reboot.  Same behavior as 
> above.
> 
> Upgraded to nvidia-driver from backports,  reboot.  Same behavior as above.
> 
> Install some desktop environment,  reboot.   system boots into X no
> issues.  Try a ctrl-alt-f1 to drop to console and monitor shuts off
> reporting no video output.   ctrl-alt-f7 brings video and monitor back
> online.
> 
> Moved on to trying to massage /etc/default/grub and setting
> GRUB_GFXMODE and GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX. And can make grub look pretty
> at 1920x1080 or any resolution if I want. It appears grub is passing
> the video resolution properly to the kernel as I can see in dmesg when
> efifb is loaded the resolution it's looking to set is the value of
> GRUB_GFXMODE.  For shits and giggles tried setting gfxmode to 1024x768
> and still no dice.
> 
> Tried booting into the grub commandline to verify video modes.  Sure
> enough grub reports efi GOP driver and 1920x1080x32 as a valid mode.
> 
> Anyone have any ideas?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ryan
> 

Hi Ryan,

Check if your video card needs a firmware. Also check if it needs a
kernel module. 

Regards,
Marko



stretch uefi install ends up with no framebuffer for console

2020-07-17 Thread rbraun204
Hey all,  i'm installing stretch onto a HP Z4G4 workstation via
netboot and in uefi mode.   The only video hardware in the box is a
NVIDIA Corporation GP107GL [Quadro P620].   The install goes as
expected.  Only installed standard utils and ssh server.

On first boot grub comes up and boots into the default entry,   the
only text after on the screen is the loading linux/initrd echo entries
from grub.   Thought it was frozen, but noticed my dhcp service got a
req from the box and sure enough i can ssh in and the machine is up
and running,  just no output to the monitor.   Still just the grub
statements up on the screen.

running hwinfo --framebuffer results in no output.

efifb appears to get loaded and has grubs resolution
[1.451694] efifb: probing for efifb
[1.451712] efifb: framebuffer at 0xe000, using 8640k, total 8640k
[1.451712] efifb: mode is 1920x1080x32, linelength=8192, pages=1
[1.451713] efifb: scrolling: redraw
[1.451713] efifb: Truecolor: size=8:8:8:8, shift=24:16:8:0
[1.484650] fb0: EFI VGA frame buffer device


installed the latest kernel from stretch-backports, reboot.  Same
behavior as above.

Installed nvidia-driver (proper for this gpu), reboot.  Same behavior as above.

Upgraded to nvidia-driver from backports,  reboot.  Same behavior as above.

Install some desktop environment,  reboot.   system boots into X no
issues.  Try a ctrl-alt-f1 to drop to console and monitor shuts off
reporting no video output.   ctrl-alt-f7 brings video and monitor back
online.

Moved on to trying to massage /etc/default/grub and setting
GRUB_GFXMODE and GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX. And can make grub look pretty
at 1920x1080 or any resolution if I want. It appears grub is passing
the video resolution properly to the kernel as I can see in dmesg when
efifb is loaded the resolution it's looking to set is the value of
GRUB_GFXMODE.  For shits and giggles tried setting gfxmode to 1024x768
and still no dice.

Tried booting into the grub commandline to verify video modes.  Sure
enough grub reports efi GOP driver and 1920x1080x32 as a valid mode.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks

Ryan



Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
Corey wrote:

I got a new laptop without a CD/DVD drive and am trying to install off a 
USB image and either dual boot my pre-installed windows 8.1 or just wipe 
and use strictly Debian.  I get all the way to the point of installing 
GRUB and it fails.  I've read that this may have something to do with 
the disk being GPT instead of MBR?  How do I get a dual boot Windows 8.1 
and Debian Wheezy install?  Or at the least have Debian successfully 
installed (although I'm afraid of wiping the HDD and losing the ability 
to revert back to Windows)

Hi,

Which version of Debian did you try to install? What eactly happened
when grub installation failed?

Debian Wheezy (7.x) and onwards for amd64 should install via UEFI and
co-exist happily with Windows 8 on a GPT system, but there may be bugs
of course. If you can give us some more information that should help.

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Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
 Corey wrote:

 I got a new laptop without a CD/DVD drive and am trying to install off a USB 
 image and either dual boot my pre-installed windows 8.1 or just wipe and use 
 strictly Debian.

If you don't mind me asking: what is the brand and model of your new laptop?

Before wiping your hard disk drive, did you save a copy of the boot 
installation software provided by your laptop vendor/manufacturer?

May I ask why you prefer to do a UEFI install versus a normal install (with 
regards to Windows 8.1 and Debian Wheezy)?

I confirm that the latest release of Debian Wheezy, a.k.a. 7.4, supports UEFI 
install.


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Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi Corey,

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 07:11:45AM -0700, Corey Blair wrote:
I downloaded debian-7.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso and then used unetbootin to
make a bootable USB flash drive from it.  I changed UEFI boot to
legacy mode and booted off the UEFI USB.  The installer runs fine,
but I have trouble loading the components from cd-rom, so I execute
a shell and mount /dev/sdb /cdrom, which used to work but now it's
failing with invalid argument.

Gah, yet another person using unetbootin. It's responsible for a lot
of problem reports we're seeing these days. It's totally unnecessary
for our images these days, and has been for ages. You can simply write
our amd64 and i386 images directly to a USB stick using dd or
win32diskimager. unetbootin will not start the installer in the right
way, and AFAIK won't do the right things with UEFI either.

When it was working I went through, partitioned some space for
Debian, got all the way to GRUB and I get something about grub failed
to install to /target/.  I'd try to run the install again and get the
exact message but now I am having difficulties with even loading the
components off USB.

There's a known issue here that hits some people booting off USB in
legacy mode this way. If you can try using the DVD image (written
directly to the USB stick) again, booting in UEFI mode, that should
most likely work much better for you.

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Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Corey Blair
I downloaded debian-7.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso and then used unetbootin to 
make a bootable USB flash drive from it.  I changed UEFI boot to legacy 
mode and booted off the UEFI USB.  The installer runs fine, but I have 
trouble loading the components from cd-rom, so I execute a shell and 
mount /dev/sdb /cdrom, which used to work but now it's failing with 
invalid argument.


When it was working I went through, partitioned some space for Debian, 
got all the way to GRUB and I get something about grub failed to install 
to /target/.  I'd try to run the install again and get the exact message 
but now I am having difficulties with even loading the components off USB.

On 4/23/2014 3:25 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote:

Corey wrote:

I got a new laptop without a CD/DVD drive and am trying to install off a
USB image and either dual boot my pre-installed windows 8.1 or just wipe
and use strictly Debian.  I get all the way to the point of installing
GRUB and it fails.  I've read that this may have something to do with
the disk being GPT instead of MBR?  How do I get a dual boot Windows 8.1
and Debian Wheezy install?  Or at the least have Debian successfully
installed (although I'm afraid of wiping the HDD and losing the ability
to revert back to Windows)

Hi,

Which version of Debian did you try to install? What eactly happened
when grub installation failed?

Debian Wheezy (7.x) and onwards for amd64 should install via UEFI and
co-exist happily with Windows 8 on a GPT system, but there may be bugs
of course. If you can give us some more information that should help.




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Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
 - Original Message -
 From: Corey Blair
 Sent: 04/23/14 10:11 PM
 To: Steve McIntyre
 Subject: Re: UEFI install
 
 I downloaded debian-7.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso and then used unetbootin to make a 
 bootable USB flash drive from it. I changed UEFI boot to legacy mode and 
 booted off the UEFI USB.

This is the first time I heard one could create a UEFI USB installer using 
Unetbootin. How did you manage to do it?

The installer runs fine, but I have trouble loading the components from 
cd-rom, so I execute a shell and mount /dev/sdb /cdrom, which used to work 
but now it's failing with invalid argument.

At which point did you have trouble loading components from cd-rom? during 
the installation process? or.?

 but now I am having difficulties with even loading the components off USB.

Did you mean that you could not complete the whole installation process?


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Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
 - Original Message -
 From: Steve McIntyre
 Sent: 04/23/14 10:25 PM
 To: Corey Blair
 Subject: Re: UEFI install

 Gah, yet another person using unetbootin. It's responsible for a lot of 
 problem reports we're seeing these days. It's totally unnecessary
 unetbootin will not start the installer in the right way, and AFAIK won't do 
 the right things with UEFI either.

Well, I have to disagree with you.

I have been using Unetbootin for the past two years to burn Linux distros 
such as Debian (Squeeze and Wheezy), Ubuntu (from versions 12 to 13) and Linux 
Mint on to a USB flash/thumb drive and then using it to install on to my hard 
disk drive without even a single problem.


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Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Jeremy T. Bouse

On 23.04.2014 14:57, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:

- Original Message -
From: Steve McIntyre
Sent: 04/23/14 10:25 PM
To: Corey Blair
Subject: Re: UEFI install


Gah, yet another person using unetbootin. It's responsible for a lot 
of problem reports we're seeing these days. It's totally unnecessary
unetbootin will not start the installer in the right way, and AFAIK 
won't do the right things with UEFI either.


Well, I have to disagree with you.

I have been using Unetbootin for the past two years to burn Linux
distros such as Debian (Squeeze and Wheezy), Ubuntu (from versions 12
to 13) and Linux Mint on to a USB flash/thumb drive and then using it
to install on to my hard disk drive without even a single problem.


I've got 2 laptops I've recently installed with Debian 7.4 using a UEFI 
from a bootable USB. I found unetbootin was useless though I'd used it 
before in the past to make boot USB. In this instance I simply 'cp 
debian-7.4.iso /dev/sdX' where /dev/sdX was my USB drive. Seemed odd 
just doing a cp but it actually worked flawlessly and was what I found 
the release notes recommended. In the case of one of my laptops I then 
had to immediately upgrade to Jessie to get certain hardware working 
given the new hardware devices it had.



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Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Corey Blair
So I can just do a file copy in Windows of the .iso to the thumb drive?  Not 
actually extracting the iso image?  I will try that later tonite, but also 
seems odd to me that it would work. 
 


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To: Theodore Alcapotaxis theota...@mail.com 
Cc: Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com; Corey Blair cblair...@yahoo.com; 
debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 April 2014, 12:07
Subject: Re: UEFI install
  

On 23.04.2014 14:57, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Steve McIntyre
 Sent: 04/23/14 10:25 PM
 To: Corey Blair
 Subject: Re: UEFI install

 Gah, yet another person using unetbootin. It's responsible for a lot 
 of problem reports we're seeing these days. It's totally unnecessary
 unetbootin will not start the installer in the right way, and AFAIK 
 won't do the right things with UEFI either.

 Well, I have to disagree with you.

 I have been using Unetbootin for the past two years to burn Linux
 distros such as Debian (Squeeze and Wheezy), Ubuntu (from versions 12
 to 13) and Linux Mint on to a USB flash/thumb drive and then using it
 to install on to my hard disk drive without even a single problem.

I've got 2 laptops I've recently installed with Debian 7.4 using a UEFI 
from a bootable USB. I found unetbootin was useless though I'd used it 
before in the past to make boot USB. In this instance I simply 'cp 
debian-7.4.iso /dev/sdX' where /dev/sdX was my USB drive. Seemed odd 
just doing a cp but it actually worked flawlessly and was what I found 
the release notes recommended. In the case of one of my laptops I then 
had to immediately upgrade to Jessie to get certain hardware working 
given the new hardware devices it had.

Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:50:57PM -0700, Corey Blair wrote:

So I can just do a file copy in Windows of the .iso to the thumb
drive?  Not actually extracting the iso image?  I will try that later
tonite, but also seems odd to me that it would work. 

No, copying the file directly from Windows won't work. Use
win32diskimager as I suggested, and you should be fine.

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Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
Corey,

If you don't like to use unetbootin, you could try one of the following:

1. pendrivelinux (url: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/)
2. rufus (url: http://rufus.akeo.ie/)

Both are free and open-source and they don't need to be installed on Windows.

Which version of Windows are you using? and in what language?


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Re: UEFI install

2014-04-19 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 07:16:56PM -0300, André Nunes Batista wrote:
 On Fri, 2014-04-18 at 10:19 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
  On 18/04/14 12:33 AM, Corey Blair wrote:
   I got a new laptop without a CD/DVD drive and am trying to install off 
   a USB image and either dual boot my pre-installed windows 8.1 or just 
   wipe and use strictly Debian.  I get all the way to the point of 
   installing GRUB and it fails.  I've read that this may have something 
   to do with the disk being GPT instead of MBR?  How do I get a dual 
   boot Windows 8.1 and Debian Wheezy install?  Or at the least have 
   Debian successfully installed (although I'm afraid of wiping the HDD 
   and losing the ability to revert back to Windows)
  
  
  You may not be able to. The problem may be that Wheezy is too old. 
  Coexistence with UEFI is still developing.
  
  However, Wheezy can handle GPT disks just fine.
  
  To test this, turn of UEFI in the BIOS and try the install again. To 
  make things easier, first use Windows disk manager to shrink the Windows 
  partition. Create a new partition in the free space and also leave a 
  small empty (a few hundred megabytes) space somewhere for the EFI System 
  Partition.
  
  Then start the Wheezy install. If that works, turn UEFI back on and try 
  booting into both OSs.
  
  
 
 It is possible to install debian wheezy with uefi enabled, take a look:
 
 https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/03/msg01372.html
 
 and the subsequent answer by Andrew.
 
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If Legacy BIOS settings are turned off, so that the machine will boot
only from UEFI an install of Debian 7 Wheezy will work: I have two
machines here installed just that way.

You will need to tab down to the advanced options as you boot the
installer and select expert mode : at that point, you can also
choose which desktop to install.

You may be able to install a very basic machine by using
dd to write the DVD image to an 8G USB stick.

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Re: UEFI install

2014-04-18 Thread Gary Dale

On 18/04/14 12:33 AM, Corey Blair wrote:
I got a new laptop without a CD/DVD drive and am trying to install off 
a USB image and either dual boot my pre-installed windows 8.1 or just 
wipe and use strictly Debian.  I get all the way to the point of 
installing GRUB and it fails.  I've read that this may have something 
to do with the disk being GPT instead of MBR?  How do I get a dual 
boot Windows 8.1 and Debian Wheezy install?  Or at the least have 
Debian successfully installed (although I'm afraid of wiping the HDD 
and losing the ability to revert back to Windows)



You may not be able to. The problem may be that Wheezy is too old. 
Coexistence with UEFI is still developing.


However, Wheezy can handle GPT disks just fine.

To test this, turn of UEFI in the BIOS and try the install again. To 
make things easier, first use Windows disk manager to shrink the Windows 
partition. Create a new partition in the free space and also leave a 
small empty (a few hundred megabytes) space somewhere for the EFI System 
Partition.


Then start the Wheezy install. If that works, turn UEFI back on and try 
booting into both OSs.



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Re: UEFI install

2014-04-18 Thread André Nunes Batista
On Fri, 2014-04-18 at 10:19 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
 On 18/04/14 12:33 AM, Corey Blair wrote:
  I got a new laptop without a CD/DVD drive and am trying to install off 
  a USB image and either dual boot my pre-installed windows 8.1 or just 
  wipe and use strictly Debian.  I get all the way to the point of 
  installing GRUB and it fails.  I've read that this may have something 
  to do with the disk being GPT instead of MBR?  How do I get a dual 
  boot Windows 8.1 and Debian Wheezy install?  Or at the least have 
  Debian successfully installed (although I'm afraid of wiping the HDD 
  and losing the ability to revert back to Windows)
 
 
 You may not be able to. The problem may be that Wheezy is too old. 
 Coexistence with UEFI is still developing.
 
 However, Wheezy can handle GPT disks just fine.
 
 To test this, turn of UEFI in the BIOS and try the install again. To 
 make things easier, first use Windows disk manager to shrink the Windows 
 partition. Create a new partition in the free space and also leave a 
 small empty (a few hundred megabytes) space somewhere for the EFI System 
 Partition.
 
 Then start the Wheezy install. If that works, turn UEFI back on and try 
 booting into both OSs.
 
 

It is possible to install debian wheezy with uefi enabled, take a look:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/03/msg01372.html

and the subsequent answer by Andrew.

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UEFI install

2014-04-17 Thread Corey Blair
I got a new laptop without a CD/DVD drive and am trying to install off a 
USB image and either dual boot my pre-installed windows 8.1 or just wipe 
and use strictly Debian.  I get all the way to the point of installing 
GRUB and it fails.  I've read that this may have something to do with 
the disk being GPT instead of MBR?  How do I get a dual boot Windows 8.1 
and Debian Wheezy install?  Or at the least have Debian successfully 
installed (although I'm afraid of wiping the HDD and losing the ability 
to revert back to Windows)



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Re: Debian + UEFI + Install w/ USB Key

2013-04-22 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 07:50:17PM +0200, Fran R. Guerrero wrote:
 I'm building my new system and I'm wishing to install Debian on it. It's
 reasonably new and the motherboard has this UEFI thing that pisses lots of
 people around. I'm no exception.
 
 I tried to install Debian Wheezy with a USB key, using the 'dd' way but,
 even trying different versions of the installer, I always got a Insert
 boot media message when trying to boot from the USB with (at least in
 theory) Debian installer on it.
 
 Anybody has any tip on how to correctly make a USB install working
 (booting, at least) on a UEFI motherboard*? Any issues with the current
 installer to take into account with UEFI, partition tables and so on?

I did this recently with the current Debian installer RC.  If you
download the netinst or CD1 ISO image, you can simply dd it to
the USB pendrive directly, and it will boot with UEFI or legacy
BIOS.

The hardest part was getting the key to boot.  The main thing to
look out for is that secure boot *must* be disabled or else
you can't boot it.  My ASUS board UEFI BIOS had some annoying
bug whereby it was silently re-enabling it behind my back, causing
countless frustration as I spent hours trying to make it boot.
Also, if you can disable booting from legacy BIOS to ensure that
only the UEFI boot method shows up (the pendrive will support both,
but you can't install it properly unless you boot in UEFI mode).
Another gotcha is that the chainloader can sometimes start
booting from one medium and switch to another if you have
multiple pendrives or CDs available; note that this is mainly
an issue when secure boot is enabled, and it'll silently skip
booting from an insecure medium.

At least with my board, when I select the boot menu, there's a
UEFI label/icon for UEFI boot methods.

Good luck!  It can certainly be done, but it might take a little
experimentation to get the UEFI BIOS configured to allow it.


Regards,
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Re: Debian + UEFI + Install w/ USB Key

2013-04-22 Thread Fran R. Guerrero
Hi again,

thanks for the tips, Gary and Roger.

2013/4/22 Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net

 I did this recently with the current Debian installer RC.  If you
 download the netinst or CD1 ISO image, you can simply dd it to
 the USB pendrive directly, and it will boot with UEFI or legacy
 BIOS.


That's correct! I tried RC1 and works like a charm! I did not use the 'dd
way', but the first method listed on
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html, that is with cat
{debianrc1.iso}  /dev/sdX. It boots and install pretty nicely, I did not
find any bug.


 The hardest part was getting the key to boot.  The main thing to
 look out for is that secure boot *must* be disabled or else
 you can't boot it.  My ASUS board UEFI BIOS had some annoying
 bug whereby it was silently re-enabling it behind my back, causing
 countless frustration as I spent hours trying to make it boot.
 Also, if you can disable booting from legacy BIOS to ensure that
 only the UEFI boot method shows up (the pendrive will support both,
 but you can't install it properly unless you boot in UEFI mode).
 Another gotcha is that the chainloader can sometimes start
 booting from one medium and switch to another if you have
 multiple pendrives or CDs available; note that this is mainly
 an issue when secure boot is enabled, and it'll silently skip
 booting from an insecure medium.


In my motherboard, at first I could not boot the good Debian RC1 key
because I had enabled Fast boot, which unables USB media for booting. I
noticed that after trying the 3 methods on the link above with no luck.

I'm so happy to be back on Debian!

Many thanks for the responses.

Kind regards,
Fran


Debian + UEFI + Install w/ USB Key

2013-04-21 Thread Fran R. Guerrero
Hi list,

I'm building my new system and I'm wishing to install Debian on it. It's
reasonably new and the motherboard has this UEFI thing that pisses lots of
people around. I'm no exception.

I tried to install Debian Wheezy with a USB key, using the 'dd' way but,
even trying different versions of the installer, I always got a Insert
boot media message when trying to boot from the USB with (at least in
theory) Debian installer on it.

I have a laptop with Ubuntu installed and could manage to make a USB
startup disk with its own utility (in the same key as I tried to put Debian
on) and it boots OK and even lets me install Ubuntu 12.10 with no problems
and boots in just 15 seconds (it is installed on a SSD drive).

I read about the new Debian 7 installer solving some issues with UEFI
hardware, but I think the problem of not booting the installer relies on
the 'dd way' of setting up the USB key, because Ubuntu's tool at the end
installs a bootloader and a persistent partition if you wish.

Anybody has any tip on how to correctly make a USB install working
(booting, at least) on a UEFI motherboard*? Any issues with the current
installer to take into account with UEFI, partition tables and so on?

Many thanks in advance for your time!

Kind regards,
Fran

* the motherboard itself is an Asrock Z77 Extreme4-M, with no possibility
of getting a BIOS 'downgrade'.


Re: Debian + UEFI + Install w/ USB Key

2013-04-21 Thread Gary Dale

On 21/04/13 01:50 PM, Fran R. Guerrero wrote:

Hi list,

I'm building my new system and I'm wishing to install Debian on it. 
It's reasonably new and the motherboard has this UEFI thing that 
pisses lots of people around. I'm no exception.


I tried to install Debian Wheezy with a USB key, using the 'dd' way 
but, even trying different versions of the installer, I always got a 
Insert boot media message when trying to boot from the USB with (at 
least in theory) Debian installer on it.


I have a laptop with Ubuntu installed and could manage to make a USB 
startup disk with its own utility (in the same key as I tried to put 
Debian on) and it boots OK and even lets me install Ubuntu 12.10 with 
no problems and boots in just 15 seconds (it is installed on a SSD drive).


I read about the new Debian 7 installer solving some issues with UEFI 
hardware, but I think the problem of not booting the installer relies 
on the 'dd way' of setting up the USB key, because Ubuntu's tool at 
the end installs a bootloader and a persistent partition if you wish.


Anybody has any tip on how to correctly make a USB install working 
(booting, at least) on a UEFI motherboard*? Any issues with the 
current installer to take into account with UEFI, partition tables and 
so on?


Many thanks in advance for your time!

Kind regards,
Fran

* the motherboard itself is an Asrock Z77 Extreme4-M, with no 
possibility of getting a BIOS 'downgrade'.


I'm not sure if dd actually works to produce a bootable USB stick. I 
note for example that systemrescuecd doesn't do that. It uses syslinux 
to put Linux onto the stick and has another program called install-mbr 
to create an MBR.


unetbootin also doesn't just dd something to the key. Have you tried 
using it to create a bootable USB stick with your favourite distro?



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Re: UEFI install

2012-11-30 Thread Erwan David
On 28/11/12 03:21, Cody Smith wrote:
 I've had this issue in Ubuntu, and found the most reliable way is to use
 a UEFI Boot MANAGER (not Boot Loader) or put the EFI Shell Intel has
 provided onto a flash drive this way:

 /boot/efi/bootx64.efirename the shellx64.efi to bootx64.efi
 then put it in that path

 if you were able to install something like rEFInd on Windows 7, just
 select the efi mode of Debian (I can safely do the same for Ubuntu,
 though 12.10 doesn't need it, as EFI boot is the default boot for EFI
 systems, (this has me wondering if this can be pushed upstream to Debian)

 If you, like me, couldn't figure out how to install rEFInd on windows,
 then things are a bit more complicated, you'd have to boot from said
 flash drive, or the EFI shell if your computer has it, and then figure
 out the block device that is the Debian installation media, and the cd
 to the efi folder through a chain of cd's, and execute the .efi file
 you'll find there that represents the installer or GRUB,  the EFI shell
 may look confusing because, well, it IS confusing for most, it's like
 mixing the syntax of BASH and cmd together and using the result.

 --c_smith



I tried several options, including ReFINd, which launches grub, but grub
did not boot wheezy. I'll switch back to BIOS.

And  write to debian-boot to signal the problem.


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UEFI install

2012-11-27 Thread Erwan David
I got a new Lenovo T530, I added a SSD as second disk, and now have a
win7, UEFI boot on MBR partitionned sdb disk.

I tried latest beta installer for wheezy (beta4), but it could not boot
in UEFI mode

(I got a text menu writtent on the right of the screen, then after
selecting an entry Error, no suitable mode found, then reboot...)

Is there a way for me to install a debian double boot without first
reinstalling the windows ?

(and if someone knows what and how I could report the UEFI boot problems
to the D-I team, i'd be glad to give them all info I can).

Thank you


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Re: UEFI install

2012-11-27 Thread Simon Brandmair
On 27/11/2012 20:50 Erwan David wrote:

 I got a new Lenovo T530, I added a SSD as second disk, and now have a
 win7, UEFI boot on MBR partitionned sdb disk.

 I tried latest beta installer for wheezy (beta4), but it could not boot
 in UEFI mode

 (I got a text menu writtent on the right of the screen, then after
 selecting an entry Error, no suitable mode found, then reboot...)

 Is there a way for me to install a debian double boot without first
 reinstalling the windows ?

I recently had a simliar problem. I managed to install Debian by
changing in the bios the boot method from UEFI the Legacy BIOS. Once
Debian was up and running, I replaced the normal grub with grub-efi,
changed the bios setting back to UEFI boot, and dual boot works now
pretty good.

Cheers,
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Re: UEFI install

2012-11-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 08:47:47PM +0100, Erwan David wrote:
 I got a new Lenovo T530, I added a SSD as second disk, and now have a
 win7, UEFI boot on MBR partitionned sdb disk.
 
 I tried latest beta installer for wheezy (beta4), but it could not boot
 in UEFI mode
 
 (I got a text menu writtent on the right of the screen, then after
 selecting an entry Error, no suitable mode found, then reboot...)

Is that immediately? Do you get a prompt to choose graphical install
or text install (or rescue) first? If not, I guess the issue is grub2
failing to draw (it would appear d-i uses grub2 as part of its boot
chain nowadays. I'm installing Debian via d-i beta4 as I write,
incidentally, on a blank SSD. It's put a GPT table on and an EFI boot
partition, w/o there being another OS.)

 Is there a way for me to install a debian double boot without first
 reinstalling the windows ?

I'm sure we'll find a way :-)

 (and if someone knows what and how I could report the UEFI boot problems
 to the D-I team, i'd be glad to give them all info I can).

It's worth doing so, either mail to debian-boot@ or a bug report (but I
forget which package that should be filed against. Possibly
installation-reports?)


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Re: UEFI install

2012-11-27 Thread Erwan David
On 27/11/12 21:16, Jon Dowland wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 08:47:47PM +0100, Erwan David wrote:
 I got a new Lenovo T530, I added a SSD as second disk, and now have a
 win7, UEFI boot on MBR partitionned sdb disk.

 I tried latest beta installer for wheezy (beta4), but it could not boot
 in UEFI mode

 (I got a text menu writtent on the right of the screen, then after
 selecting an entry Error, no suitable mode found, then reboot...)
 Is that immediately? Do you get a prompt to choose graphical install
 or text install (or rescue) first? If not, I guess the issue is grub2
 failing to draw (it would appear d-i uses grub2 as part of its boot
 chain nowadays. I'm installing Debian via d-i beta4 as I write,
 incidentally, on a blank SSD. It's put a GPT table on and an EFI boot
 partition, w/o there being another OS.)
I get the prompt, the no mode suitable comes after choosing the text or
graphical install.
By the way the disk is not GPT but plain old DOS partition system. That
might be a source of the problem. Other source might be the sdb disk
(the SSD is in the extension bay, since the fixation is better inside
the laptop body.
 Is there a way for me to install a debian double boot without first
 reinstalling the windows ?
 I'm sure we'll find a way :-)
That's why I asked here...
 (and if someone knows what and how I could report the UEFI boot problems
 to the D-I team, i'd be glad to give them all info I can).
 It's worth doing so, either mail to debian-boot@ or a bug report (but I
 forget which package that should be filed against. Possibly
 installation-reports?)


I note this, and I'll send them the problems once I get more tests and info.


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Re: UEFI install

2012-11-27 Thread Erwan David
On 27/11/12 21:06, Simon Brandmair wrote:
 On 27/11/2012 20:50 Erwan David wrote:

 I got a new Lenovo T530, I added a SSD as second disk, and now have a
 win7, UEFI boot on MBR partitionned sdb disk.

 I tried latest beta installer for wheezy (beta4), but it could not boot
 in UEFI mode

 (I got a text menu writtent on the right of the screen, then after
 selecting an entry Error, no suitable mode found, then reboot...)

 Is there a way for me to install a debian double boot without first
 reinstalling the windows ?
 I recently had a simliar problem. I managed to install Debian by
 changing in the bios the boot method from UEFI the Legacy BIOS. Once
 Debian was up and running, I replaced the normal grub with grub-efi,
 changed the bios setting back to UEFI boot, and dual boot works now
 pretty good.

 Cheers,
 Simon


I did not find any doc for setting efi boot that did not suppose boot
was done on /dev/sda...

Would using grub-install /dev/sdb
then |efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sdb -l \\EFI\\debian\\grubx64.efi -L
Debian GNU/Linux

work ?
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Re: Re: UEFI install

2012-11-27 Thread Cody Smith
I've had this issue in Ubuntu, and found the most reliable way is to use
a UEFI Boot MANAGER (not Boot Loader) or put the EFI Shell Intel has
provided onto a flash drive this way:

/boot/efi/bootx64.efirename the shellx64.efi to bootx64.efi
then put it in that path

if you were able to install something like rEFInd on Windows 7, just
select the efi mode of Debian (I can safely do the same for Ubuntu,
though 12.10 doesn't need it, as EFI boot is the default boot for EFI
systems, (this has me wondering if this can be pushed upstream to Debian)

If you, like me, couldn't figure out how to install rEFInd on windows,
then things are a bit more complicated, you'd have to boot from said
flash drive, or the EFI shell if your computer has it, and then figure
out the block device that is the Debian installation media, and the cd
to the efi folder through a chain of cd's, and execute the .efi file
you'll find there that represents the installer or GRUB,  the EFI shell
may look confusing because, well, it IS confusing for most, it's like
mixing the syntax of BASH and cmd together and using the result.

--c_smith


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Re: UEFI install (was: Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD)

2012-08-12 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 11. August 2012 schrieb Greg Madden:
  Not sure about all the:
  - GPT + UEFI
  - MBR + UEFI
  - GPT + BIOS
 
 I just installed Wheezy and it seemed to install just like any other
 install I  have done.

Ah, so you are not sure its using UEFI at all?

Do you have grub-pc or grub-efi-amd64 at work? Is there an EFI boot 
partition? Does Debian still boot when setting BIOS to UEFI only mode?

If not, you are booting via BIOS.

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Re: UEFI install

2012-08-12 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Please quote instead of top-post.

Am Freitag, 10. August 2012 schrieb Jerome BENOIT:
 On 10/08/12 11:17, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
  Am Donnerstag, 9. August 2012 schrieb Greg Madden:
  On Thursday 09 August 2012 4:37:05 am L V Gandhi wrote:
  On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dalegaryd...@rogers.com  
wrote:
  On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote:
[…]
  I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
  making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence
  my post.
  
  I think the issues you read about are for Windows 8 and the 'secure
  boot' feature of the UEFI bios?
  
  I have not tried Squeeze, Wheezy works fine on a Thinkpad with the
  UEFI bios, SSD  mSata.
  
  I think Squeeze does not support UEFI properly. It would at least
  need a 3.2 backport kernel
  
  What did you do to make it work? I have tried two times to get
  either of:
  
  - GPT + UEFI
  - MBR + UEFI
  - GPT + BIOS
  
  to work on a ThinkPad T520 and the only think that works right now is
  
  - MBR + BIOS
[…]
 Have you tried with Wheezy ?

I am using Debian Sid here. But I didn´t try a new install since the 
initial install in Q2/2011.

Thanks,
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Re: UEFI install (was: Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD)

2012-08-11 Thread Greg Madden


On Friday 10 August 2012 1:17:16 am Martin Steigerwald wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 9. August 2012 schrieb Greg Madden:
  On Thursday 09 August 2012 4:37:05 am L V Gandhi wrote:
   On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote:
Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in
ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD?
Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux.
   
You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the
way you like. Linux installers normally expect that dual booting
is a common requirement so they usually handle it pretty well.
  
   I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
   making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my
   post.
 
  I think the issues you read about are for Windows 8 and the 'secure
  boot' feature of the UEFI bios?
 
  I have not tried Squeeze, Wheezy works fine on a Thinkpad with the UEFI
  bios, SSD  mSata.

 I think Squeeze does not support UEFI properly. It would at least need
 a 3.2 backport kernel

 What did you do to make it work? I have tried two times to get
 either of:

 - GPT + UEFI
 - MBR + UEFI
 - GPT + BIOS

 to work on a ThinkPad T520 and the only think that works right now is

 - MBR + BIOS

 My problem was that the UEFI boot menu never offered to boot from the
 EFI boot partition that I made. I think I might have been missing some
 efibootmgr magic that was explained here or elsewhere before, but as you
 managed to get to work, I´d like to know the exact steps or a link to a
 guide that works, before trying again. Why the GPT + BIOS stuff did not
 work is beyond me – I hat a BIOS boot partition for GRUB and grub-install
 also seemed to use it.

 I bet its not really faster tough since the ThinkPad doesn´t take much
 time in the BIOS anyway. And due to LVM I do not really need GPT, but it
 would be nice to have it anyway.

I am not dual booting, I am using virtualization for the second OS. I have two 
ssd's, not at the same time, Win7 host and a Wheezy host. 

 Not sure about all the:
 - GPT + UEFI
 - MBR + UEFI
 - GPT + BIOS

I just installed Wheezy and it seemed to install just like any other install I 
have done.

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Peace,

Greg


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Re: UEFI install (was: Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD)

2012-08-11 Thread L V Gandhi
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Greg Madden gomadtr...@gci.net wrote:


 On Friday 10 August 2012 1:17:16 am Martin Steigerwald wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 9. August 2012 schrieb Greg Madden:
  On Thursday 09 August 2012 4:37:05 am L V Gandhi wrote:
   On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote:
Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in
ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD?
Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux.
   
You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the
way you like. Linux installers normally expect that dual booting
is a common requirement so they usually handle it pretty well.
  
   I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
   making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my
   post.
 
  I think the issues you read about are for Windows 8 and the 'secure
  boot' feature of the UEFI bios?
 
  I have not tried Squeeze, Wheezy works fine on a Thinkpad with the UEFI
  bios, SSD  mSata.

 I think Squeeze does not support UEFI properly. It would at least need
 a 3.2 backport kernel

 What did you do to make it work? I have tried two times to get
 either of:

 - GPT + UEFI
 - MBR + UEFI
 - GPT + BIOS

 to work on a ThinkPad T520 and the only think that works right now is

 - MBR + BIOS

 My problem was that the UEFI boot menu never offered to boot from the
 EFI boot partition that I made. I think I might have been missing some
 efibootmgr magic that was explained here or elsewhere before, but as you
 managed to get to work, I´d like to know the exact steps or a link to a
 guide that works, before trying again. Why the GPT + BIOS stuff did not
 work is beyond me – I hat a BIOS boot partition for GRUB and grub-install
 also seemed to use it.

 I bet its not really faster tough since the ThinkPad doesn´t take much
 time in the BIOS anyway. And due to LVM I do not really need GPT, but it
 would be nice to have it anyway.

 I am not dual booting, I am using virtualization for the second OS. I have two
 ssd's, not at the same time, Win7 host and a Wheezy host.

  Not sure about all the:
 - GPT + UEFI
 - MBR + UEFI
 - GPT + BIOS

 I just installed Wheezy and it seemed to install just like any other install I
 have done.

 --
 Peace,

 Greg
 Which vitualiation medium you used ie virtual box?


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UEFI install (was: Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD)

2012-08-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 9. August 2012 schrieb Greg Madden:
 On Thursday 09 August 2012 4:37:05 am L V Gandhi wrote:
  On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
   On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote:
   Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in
   ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD?
   Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux.
   
   You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the
   way you like. Linux installers normally expect that dual booting
   is a common requirement so they usually handle it pretty well.
  
  I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
  making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my
  post.
 
 I think the issues you read about are for Windows 8 and the 'secure
 boot' feature of the UEFI bios?
 
 I have not tried Squeeze, Wheezy works fine on a Thinkpad with the UEFI
 bios, SSD  mSata.

I think Squeeze does not support UEFI properly. It would at least need
a 3.2 backport kernel

What did you do to make it work? I have tried two times to get
either of:

- GPT + UEFI
- MBR + UEFI
- GPT + BIOS

to work on a ThinkPad T520 and the only think that works right now is

- MBR + BIOS

My problem was that the UEFI boot menu never offered to boot from the
EFI boot partition that I made. I think I might have been missing some 
efibootmgr magic that was explained here or elsewhere before, but as you 
managed to get to work, I´d like to know the exact steps or a link to a 
guide that works, before trying again. Why the GPT + BIOS stuff did not 
work is beyond me – I hat a BIOS boot partition for GRUB and grub-install 
also seemed to use it.

I bet its not really faster tough since the ThinkPad doesn´t take much 
time in the BIOS anyway. And due to LVM I do not really need GPT, but it 
would be nice to have it anyway.

Thanks,
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Re: UEFI install

2012-08-10 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Have you tried with Wheezy ?

On 10/08/12 11:17, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

Am Donnerstag, 9. August 2012 schrieb Greg Madden:

On Thursday 09 August 2012 4:37:05 am L V Gandhi wrote:

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dalegaryd...@rogers.com  wrote:

On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote:

Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in
ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD?
Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux.


You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the
way you like. Linux installers normally expect that dual booting
is a common requirement so they usually handle it pretty well.


I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my
post.


I think the issues you read about are for Windows 8 and the 'secure
boot' feature of the UEFI bios?

I have not tried Squeeze, Wheezy works fine on a Thinkpad with the UEFI
bios, SSD  mSata.


I think Squeeze does not support UEFI properly. It would at least need
a 3.2 backport kernel

What did you do to make it work? I have tried two times to get
either of:

- GPT + UEFI
- MBR + UEFI
- GPT + BIOS

to work on a ThinkPad T520 and the only think that works right now is

- MBR + BIOS

My problem was that the UEFI boot menu never offered to boot from the
EFI boot partition that I made. I think I might have been missing some
efibootmgr magic that was explained here or elsewhere before, but as you
managed to get to work, I´d like to know the exact steps or a link to a
guide that works, before trying again. Why the GPT + BIOS stuff did not
work is beyond me – I hat a BIOS boot partition for GRUB and grub-install
also seemed to use it.

I bet its not really faster tough since the ThinkPad doesn´t take much
time in the BIOS anyway. And due to LVM I do not really need GPT, but it
would be nice to have it anyway.

Thanks,



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