Re: Undoing the 'l' command in mutt

2004-04-15 Thread Åsmund Ødegård
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 09:22, Paul Johnson wrote:
  Enrico Zini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   I use mutt, unchanged keybindings.  After I type 'l' to see only
   the messages matching a given pattern, I'd like to get back to
   seeing the whole mailbox.  Is there a way of removing the 'l'
   filter besides reopening the mailbox?  The simpler way would be
   'l'+Enter, but it does not work.  I had a look in the '?' list of
   all keybindings, but found nothing.
  
  Did you try C-g yet?  C-g cancels in just about any program...

 C-g will not work, I think.

 But press l, remove your old search pattern with C-a C-k, then put a .
 (pattern wich match anything...), and you have everything back. 

 A shortcut for unlimiting would be nice, though.

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RE: Undoing the 'l' command in mutt

2004-04-15 Thread Colin Bell
 -Original Message-
 From: smund degrd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2004 19:01
 To: Debian Users
 Subject: Re: Undoing the 'l' command in mutt
 
 
 On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 09:22, Paul Johnson wrote:
   Enrico Zini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
I use mutt, unchanged keybindings.  After I type 'l' to see only
the messages matching a given pattern, I'd like to get back to
seeing the whole mailbox.  Is there a way of removing the 'l'
filter besides reopening the mailbox?  The simpler way would be
'l'+Enter, but it does not work.  I had a look in the '?' list of
all keybindings, but found nothing.
   
   Did you try C-g yet?  C-g cancels in just about any program...
 
  C-g will not work, I think.
 
  But press l, remove your old search pattern with C-a C-k, 
 then put a .
  (pattern wich match anything...), and you have everything back. 
 
  A shortcut for unlimiting would be nice, though.
 

You don't need to do C-a C-k to remove the old pattern. Anything
you key will overwrite the old pattern automatically.

I.E. just key l.ENTER



Re: Undoing the 'l' command in mutt

2004-04-15 Thread William Ballard
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 08:57:33AM +1000, Colin Bell wrote:
 I.E. just key l.ENTER

Strictly speaking '.' doesn't match ''.  Better use '.*' if you really 
mean everything.  Suppose your view displays only subject line, and 
the subject is blank.


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Re: Undoing the 'l' command in mutt

2004-04-15 Thread Bill Moseley
On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 05:51:35PM -0700, William Ballard wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 08:57:33AM +1000, Colin Bell wrote:
  I.E. just key l.ENTER
 
 Strictly speaking '.' doesn't match ''.  Better use '.*' if you really 
 mean everything.  Suppose your view displays only subject line, and 
 the subject is blank.

I belive the limit command defaults to the simple_search parameter if
you don't use any patterns, and the default simple_search searches the
From: address and the Subject:, so both would have to be null.

Regardless, it seems if a message has neither a From: or a Subject:
header l. still selects it.  Even if I delete all headers and leave
just a \n at the start of the message (don't try that with mbox).

As does these:

   l!~s.
   l!~f.

So it looks like dot is special.

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RE: Undoing the 'l' command in mutt

2004-04-15 Thread Colin Bell
 -Original Message-
 From: William Ballard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 16 April 2004 10:52
 To: Debian Users
 Subject: Re: Undoing the 'l' command in mutt
 
 
 On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 08:57:33AM +1000, Colin Bell wrote:
  I.E. just key l.ENTER
 
 Strictly speaking '.' doesn't match ''.  Better use '.*' if 
 you really 
 mean everything.  Suppose your view displays only subject line, and 
 the subject is blank.

IIRC Mutt doesn't limit by the columns displayed in the view but defaults
to limiting by From: and Subject: I think there is a configuration
variable that allows you to change this. So even if the subject is blank
l.ENTER should still show messages with a blank subject (assuming that
From: is not blank)


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Re: Undoing the 'l' command in mutt

2004-04-14 Thread Paul Johnson
Enrico Zini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I use mutt, unchanged keybindings.  After I type 'l' to see only the
 messages matching a given pattern, I'd like to get back to seeing the
 whole mailbox.  Is there a way of removing the 'l' filter besides
 reopening the mailbox?  The simpler way would be 'l'+Enter, but it does
 not work.  I had a look in the '?' list of all keybindings, but found
 nothing.

Did you try C-g yet?  C-g cancels in just about any program...

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Undoing the 'l' command in mutt

2004-04-13 Thread Enrico Zini
Hello,

I use mutt, unchanged keybindings.  After I type 'l' to see only the
messages matching a given pattern, I'd like to get back to seeing the
whole mailbox.  Is there a way of removing the 'l' filter besides
reopening the mailbox?  The simpler way would be 'l'+Enter, but it does
not work.  I had a look in the '?' list of all keybindings, but found
nothing.

Ciao,

Enrico

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Re: Undoing the 'l' command in mutt

2004-04-13 Thread Philipp Weis
Hi,

On 13 Apr 2004, Enrico Zini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I use mutt, unchanged keybindings.  After I type 'l' to see only the
 messages matching a given pattern, I'd like to get back to seeing the
 whole mailbox.  Is there a way of removing the 'l' filter besides
 reopening the mailbox?  The simpler way would be 'l'+Enter, but it does
 not work.  I had a look in the '?' list of all keybindings, but found
 nothing.

You should have a look at the patterns section of the mutt manual.
~A matches all messages, so l~A shows you all messages again.

Philipp


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Re: Undoing the 'l' command in mutt

2004-04-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Apr 13, 2004 at 05:05:21PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote:
 I use mutt, unchanged keybindings.  After I type 'l' to see only the
 messages matching a given pattern, I'd like to get back to seeing the
 whole mailbox.  Is there a way of removing the 'l' filter besides
 reopening the mailbox?  The simpler way would be 'l'+Enter, but it does
 not work.  I had a look in the '?' list of all keybindings, but found
 nothing.

'l' followed by entering '.' as the pattern works for me.

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Re: Undoing the 'l' command in mutt

2004-04-13 Thread William Ballard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2004 at 05:05:21PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I use mutt, unchanged keybindings.  After I type 'l' to see only the
 messages matching a given pattern, I'd like to get back to seeing the
 whole mailbox.  Is there a way of removing the 'l' filter besides
 reopening the mailbox?  The simpler way would be 'l'+Enter, but it does
 not work.  I had a look in the '?' list of all keybindings, but found
 nothing.

l .
or l .*



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Re: Undoing the 'l' command in mutt

2004-04-13 Thread Enrico Zini
On Tue, Apr 13, 2004 at 08:40:36PM +0200, Philipp Weis wrote:

  I use mutt, unchanged keybindings.  After I type 'l' to see only the
  messages matching a given pattern, I'd like to get back to seeing the
  whole mailbox.  Is there a way of removing the 'l' filter besides
  reopening the mailbox?  The simpler way would be 'l'+Enter, but it does
  not work.  I had a look in the '?' list of all keybindings, but found
  nothing.
 You should have a look at the patterns section of the mutt manual.
 ~A matches all messages, so l~A shows you all messages again.

Ok, so there is no direct remove filter command, and a kludge is
needed.

Totally non-intuitive, but fair enough.  Wishlist bug has been filed.


Thank you,

Enrico


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Re: Undoing the 'l' command in mutt

2004-04-13 Thread Rick Pasotto
On Tue, Apr 13, 2004 at 05:05:21PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I use mutt, unchanged keybindings.  After I type 'l' to see only the
 messages matching a given pattern, I'd like to get back to seeing the
 whole mailbox.  Is there a way of removing the 'l' filter besides
 reopening the mailbox?  The simpler way would be 'l'+Enter, but it
 does not work.  I had a look in the '?' list of all keybindings, but
 found nothing.

'all' is treated as a keyword so 'l' + 'all' will display the whole
mailbox.

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Re: Undoing the 'l' command in mutt

2004-04-13 Thread William Ballard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2004 at 08:59:26PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote:
 
 Ok, so there is no direct remove filter command, and a kludge is
 needed.
 
 Totally non-intuitive, but fair enough.  Wishlist bug has been filed.

It's just a paradigm thing.  It's like subtracting or adding negative 
numbers: they're the same thing.  We have seperate words for the same 
operation as a grammatical convenience.

I think it would be less elegant to introduce an additional keybinding 
for no good reason.


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