Re: X hangs in mysterious ways
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Kevin Ross wrote: What's funny is that VESA comes up right, it detects my card beautifully; but then it complains that there aren't any screens. Sounds like it can't find a matching resolution and refresh rate. The VESA driver is limited in what resolutions and refresh rates it will support. In Section Monitor, try commenting out everything except the Identifier. This will use a default set of refresh rates. In Section Screen, try using conservative values. Like for DefaultDepth, try 16. And in the Subsection Display for 16 bit, try just 800x600. I've got VESA to work now. I had to set it to use a bpp of 8, and then it came up fine. My computer has been up for 15 hours now, and I've been in X all this time; so I guess things are working alright (Although none of my consoles work now. *sigh* Something about the refresh rate being too low. (I always thought that text consoles ran at 60Hz.)) Anyway, this leads me to suspect that it's my video card that's busted (unlikely) or that the X driver is broken. Should I try going back to X 4.0.2 and see if that works? (I had a computer a while ago with the same type of video card, running X 4.0.2.) Actually, VESA mode isn't much slower than the accelerated driver. X 4.0.3 doesn't seem to have working Direct Rendering support for ATI cards yet. All I'm missing are the pretty colours, and I can live without them for the time being. Simon
Re: X hangs in mysterious ways
I've got VESA to work now. I had to set it to use a bpp of 8, and then it came up fine. My computer has been up for 15 hours now, and I've been in X all this time; so I guess things are working alright (Although none of my consoles work now. *sigh* Something about the refresh rate being too low. (I always thought that text consoles ran at 60Hz.)) I'm glad you at least have a working and stable system. Now, you can try playing with the monitor and screen sections of your config file, to try to get a display that's more to your liking. I'm using the VESA driver, too, because the driver for my video card (Trident) flat out doesn't work with my card. I'm able to use 16 bpp, which is colorful enough for me, and I can switch consoles using Ctrl+Alt+F[1-7] just fine. Anyway, this leads me to suspect that it's my video card that's busted (unlikely) or that the X driver is broken. Should I try going back to X 4.0.2 and see if that works? (I had a computer a while ago with the same type of video card, running X 4.0.2.) If 4.0.2 works for you, then sure, why not. Also, I would suggest bringing this problem up on the XFree86 mailing lists. Go to http://www.XFree86.org -- Kevin
Re: X hangs in mysterious ways
I am running Sid with XFree86 4.0.3-3 on Linux 2.4.4. My predicament, you see, is that my X server seems to hang the machine whenever it fancies. I have maximum uptimes of about 15 to 20 minutes of usage. If I don't touch my X server, it's fine. If I don't use my X server, it's fine. I've tried MemTest86, but that passed with flying colours. Any suggestions for log files to look at, or diagnostics to run? Sounds like it could be a video driver problem. There are a couple things you can try: 1. In the Device section for your video card in your XF86Config-4 file, try adding: Option NoAccel There may be other driver-specific options for your card. What driver are you using? 2. In the same section, instead of your current driver, try: Driver vesa This probably won't give you great performance, but at least it should be stable. -- Kevin
Re: X hangs in mysterious ways
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Kevin Ross wrote: I am running Sid with XFree86 4.0.3-3 on Linux 2.4.4. My predicament, you see, is that my X server seems to hang the machine whenever it fancies. I have maximum uptimes of about 15 to 20 minutes of usage. If I don't touch my X server, it's fine. If I don't use my X server, it's fine. I've tried MemTest86, but that passed with flying colours. Any suggestions for log files to look at, or diagnostics to run? Sounds like it could be a video driver problem. There are a couple things you can try: 1. In the Device section for your video card in your XF86Config-4 file, try adding: Option NoAccel There may be other driver-specific options for your card. What driver are you using? Did that with the r128 and the ati drivers. No dice. I still get hangs. 2. In the same section, instead of your current driver, try: Driver vesa This probably won't give you great performance, but at least it should be stable. What's funny is that VESA comes up right, it detects my card beautifully; but then it complains that there aren't any screens. Simon
Re: X hangs in mysterious ways
What's funny is that VESA comes up right, it detects my card beautifully; but then it complains that there aren't any screens. Sounds like it can't find a matching resolution and refresh rate. The VESA driver is limited in what resolutions and refresh rates it will support. In Section Monitor, try commenting out everything except the Identifier. This will use a default set of refresh rates. In Section Screen, try using conservative values. Like for DefaultDepth, try 16. And in the Subsection Display for 16 bit, try just 800x600. -- Kevin
X hangs in mysterious ways
Hello, I seem to have a small, and mysterious problem. I am running Sid with XFree86 4.0.3-3 on Linux 2.4.4. My predicament, you see, is that my X server seems to hang the machine whenever it fancies. I have maximum uptimes of about 15 to 20 minutes of usage. If I don't touch my X server, it's fine. If I don't use my X server, it's fine. I've tried MemTest86, but that passed with flying colours. Any suggestions for log files to look at, or diagnostics to run? Simon
