Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 14:36, Sean Middleditch wrote:
 On Wed, 2002-04-17 at 06:47, Russell Coker wrote:
  I don't know which sub-version of the GeForce cards I'm using, I just got
  whatever was cheapest at the time (you'd have to be crazy to buy a
  high-end NVidia card - they release new models every 6 months and the old
  models then sell for less than half price).

 Wow.  Good point.  I feel retarded now.  (Sean's wallet is hurting after
 he replaced one of his old video cards which melted with a Geforce3 Ti
 500 at x-mas.)

That's another thing.  If you buy an older model card in a tiny box with no 
manuals etc for $150 and it melts you're not going to be nearly as unhappy as 
if the same thing happens to a high-end $700 card that came with all manuals 
etc.

My observation is that if you buy a new cheap card every year you'll spend 
less money than if you buy a new expensive card every second year, and on 
average you'll have better hardware as a new cheap card is usually better 
than a 1 year old expensive card.

 When I plopped in the nVidia binary drivers, tho, I sure know it looked
 great.  ^,^  Zangband has never looked so crisp...

Zangband?

Speaking of the binary drivers, that logo and delay on X startup annoys me.  
I'd like to get a patch that removes it (yes I know that means a binary 
patch), if I can find such a patch (or be bothered writing one) then I'll 
release some unofficial debs that do it.  ;)


BTW  I changed this from debian-devel to debian-user as it has nothing to do 
with development.

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Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Sean Middleditch
On Wed, 2002-04-17 at 08:45, Russell Coker wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 14:36, Sean Middleditch wrote:
  On Wed, 2002-04-17 at 06:47, Russell Coker wrote:
   I don't know which sub-version of the GeForce cards I'm using, I just got
   whatever was cheapest at the time (you'd have to be crazy to buy a
   high-end NVidia card - they release new models every 6 months and the old
   models then sell for less than half price).
 
  Wow.  Good point.  I feel retarded now.  (Sean's wallet is hurting after
  he replaced one of his old video cards which melted with a Geforce3 Ti
  500 at x-mas.)
 
 That's another thing.  If you buy an older model card in a tiny box with no 
 manuals etc for $150 and it melts you're not going to be nearly as unhappy as 
 if the same thing happens to a high-end $700 card that came with all manuals 
 etc.

^,^  I found out my motherboard was causing the problems, and managed to
melt my new GeForce3, as well; but VisionTek has a lifetime warranty on
their cards, so all was good.

 
 My observation is that if you buy a new cheap card every year you'll spend 
 less money than if you buy a new expensive card every second year, and on 
 average you'll have better hardware as a new cheap card is usually better 
 than a 1 year old expensive card.

You have another point.  Of course, this is all likely lost effort on
me, because I'm also the person that wasted money I didn't have on the
fastest motherboard, processor, and DDR memory I could find when I found
out my old gamestation motherboard needed replacing...

 
  When I plopped in the nVidia binary drivers, tho, I sure know it looked
  great.  ^,^  Zangband has never looked so crisp...
 
 Zangband?

Ya... um, like Nethack, but much much better, imo.  If you're not
familar with Nethack, then I think the joke will be entirely lost.  ^,^

 
 Speaking of the binary drivers, that logo and delay on X startup annoys me.  
 I'd like to get a patch that removes it (yes I know that means a binary 
 patch), if I can find such a patch (or be bothered writing one) then I'll 
 release some unofficial debs that do it.  ;)

You can disable it.  There is an option to set in the Xconfig file. 
Somewhere, I forget exactly where, had the documentation on all the
options.  Actually, I think X might have auto-generated that for me from
the driver... (X rules).

 
 
 BTW  I changed this from debian-devel to debian-user as it has nothing to do 
 with development.
 
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Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin  Russell Coker quotation:
 
 That's another thing.  If you buy an older model card in a tiny box with no 
 manuals etc for $150 and it melts you're not going to be nearly as unhappy as 
 if the same thing happens to a high-end $700 card that came with all manuals 
 etc.

If you're paying $150 for an old card with no manuals, that better be
old as in six months old.

You can get most of the previous-generation video cards for less than
that WITH manuals, new in the box.


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Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-17 Thread Josh McKinney
On approximately Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 02:45:41PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote:
 
 Speaking of the binary drivers, that logo and delay on X startup annoys me.  
 I'd like to get a patch that removes it (yes I know that means a binary 
 patch), if I can find such a patch (or be bothered writing one) then I'll 
 release some unofficial debs that do it.  ;)
 
Did you happen to look at the README?  /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX*version_number*

josh


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