apt-get/aptitude bustage with gnucash
I have just attempted a dist-upgrade with bost apt-get and aptitude, and both of them want to remove gnucash from my system (sid). This seems to be busted. At the moment there is a new gnucash-common (2.2.4-2) but no new gnucash package to match. Normally that's ok and apt will not upgrade gnucash-common, but for some reason, this time it wants to upgrade gnucash-common and remove gnucash to resolve the conflict. gnucash-common 2.4.4-2 has the following deps: Replaces: gnucash ( 1.8.8-5) Recommends: gnucash (= 2.2.4-2) Conflicts: gnucash ( 2.2.4-2) So, this conflicts with gnucash 2.2.4-1 (currently installed) but does not replace it. So why would apt remove gnucash? I thought apt was only meant to remove a package itself when another replaces it. Is this a bug in apt? BTW. I'm not looking for any solutions here - i'll just wait until tomorrow or the next day and the problem will go away. I've just never seem apt try to remove something I want installed without there being a replacement. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get/aptitude bustage with gnucash
Cameron Hutchison wrote: I have just attempted a dist-upgrade with bost apt-get and aptitude, and both of them want to remove gnucash from my system (sid). This seems to be busted. At the moment there is a new gnucash-common (2.2.4-2) but no new gnucash package to match. Normally that's ok and apt will not upgrade gnucash-common, but for some reason, this time it wants to upgrade gnucash-common and remove gnucash to resolve the conflict. gnucash-common 2.4.4-2 has the following deps: Replaces: gnucash ( 1.8.8-5) Recommends: gnucash (= 2.2.4-2) Conflicts: gnucash ( 2.2.4-2) So, this conflicts with gnucash 2.2.4-1 (currently installed) but does not replace it. So why would apt remove gnucash? I thought apt was only meant to remove a package itself when another replaces it. Is this a bug in apt? BTW. I'm not looking for any solutions here - i'll just wait until tomorrow or the next day and the problem will go away. I've just never seem apt try to remove something I want installed without there being a replacement. I can say wrong, but dist-upgrade (or full-upgrade) can remove the packages. Try 'aptitude safe-upgrade'. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, Ukrainian C++ developer. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: apt-get/aptitude bustage with gnucash
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 09:36:15PM -, Cameron Hutchison wrote: I have just attempted a dist-upgrade with bost apt-get and aptitude, and both of them want to remove gnucash from my system (sid). This seems to be busted. At the moment there is a new gnucash-common (2.2.4-2) but no new gnucash package to match. Normally that's ok and apt will not upgrade gnucash-common, but for some reason, this time it wants to upgrade gnucash-common and remove gnucash to resolve the conflict. gnucash-common 2.4.4-2 has the following deps: Replaces: gnucash ( 1.8.8-5) Recommends: gnucash (= 2.2.4-2) Conflicts: gnucash ( 2.2.4-2) So, this conflicts with gnucash 2.2.4-1 (currently installed) but does not replace it. So why would apt remove gnucash? I thought apt was only meant to remove a package itself when another replaces it. Is this a bug in apt? BTW. I'm not looking for any solutions here - i'll just wait until tomorrow or the next day and the problem will go away. I think so. It looks okay to me here. I get no conflict upgrading gnucash as of 3:00 pm pacific us time. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: apt-get/aptitude bustage with gnucash
Eugene V. Lyubimkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cameron Hutchison wrote: At the moment there is a new gnucash-common (2.2.4-2) but no new gnucash package to match. Normally that's ok and apt will not upgrade gnucash-common, but for some reason, this time it wants to upgrade gnucash-common and remove gnucash to resolve the conflict. I can say wrong, but dist-upgrade (or full-upgrade) can remove the packages. Try 'aptitude safe-upgrade'. I am aware that dist-upgrade can remove packages, but I thought this is only when other packages replace them. In this case, there is no replacement, only a conflict. Usually I see this state as broken with aptitude giving options to work around the breakage - often holding back or removing packages. There was no conflict given for gnucash[-common] today and aptitude/apt-get was just going to remove gnucash without prompting me for a resolution. This seems wrong, and was the point of my original posting. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get/aptitude bustage with gnucash
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 09:36:15PM -, Cameron Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: I have just attempted a dist-upgrade with bost apt-get and aptitude, and both of them want to remove gnucash from my system (sid). This seems to be busted. At the moment there is a new gnucash-common (2.2.4-2) but no new gnucash package to match. Normally that's ok and apt will not upgrade gnucash-common, but for some reason, this time it wants to upgrade gnucash-common and remove gnucash to resolve the conflict. The basic problem is that you have a brain and apt* don't. Sometimes it's necessary to remove some packages in order to get an upgrade to go through for one reason or another. When you run a dist-upgrade or full-upgrade, apt will aggressively try to upgrade as many packages as possible, even if it has to remove a few in order to do so. This is where the brain comes in: you know the informal, contextual fact that gnucash-common makes no sense without gnucash, but apt doesn't have access to this information. So it figures that it can get another upgrade to go through by throwing away gnucash. There are weights against generally removing packages, but because apt lacks a brain they sometimes fail to prevent it from being stupid (or they just cause it to be stupid in a more conservative way). I don't know for sure what your situation is -- but I know that aptitude tries hard to avoid doing nothing on a full-upgrade, so if the gnucash-common upgrade is the only thing available it'll pull out all the stops trying to find a way to include it. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
