Re: Where is basedebs.tgz?

2001-12-24 Thread Simon Eilting

Mark Lanett wrote:


Installing woody w/o net was hard because it doesn't have a single huge
basedebs file any more. I had to read the debootstrap scripts and
predownload all the listed debs myself. Also there was one missing from the
list which caused the install to fail (probably fixed by now).

It is by far easier to install potato and then upgrade to woody.

~mark



And exactly that is my problem: potato doesn't have pppoe which I need 
for netinstall/upgrade. I could use my old potato CD-set and then 
upgrade via ISDN but last time I tried that the upgrade of ipppd broke 
the ISDN connection and I was left with a useless system.




Where is basedebs.tgz?

2001-12-23 Thread Simon Eilting
I'm trying to install woody from the net. The documentation says I need 
a file called 'base2_2.tgz' (this is for potato, right?), and the 
installer says I need a file called 'basedebs.tgz'. The base2_2.tgz 
doesn't seem to work and there's no 'basedebs.tgz' on the mirrors. Do I 
have to install the base system directly from the net (I can't)?




Re: Where is basedebs.tgz?

2001-12-23 Thread Shaul Karl
 I'm trying to install woody from the net. The documentation says I need 
 a file called 'base2_2.tgz' (this is for potato, right?), and the 
 installer says I need a file called 'basedebs.tgz'. The base2_2.tgz 
 doesn't seem to work and there's no 'basedebs.tgz' on the mirrors. Do I 
 have to install the base system directly from the net (I can't)?
 


You can find base2_2.tgz at  
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/.
However I believe http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/dis
ks-i386/current/images-1.44 is what is usable for you.
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Re: Where is basedebs.tgz?

2001-12-23 Thread Mark Lanett
Installing woody w/o net was hard because it doesn't have a single huge
basedebs file any more. I had to read the debootstrap scripts and
predownload all the listed debs myself. Also there was one missing from the
list which caused the install to fail (probably fixed by now).

It is by far easier to install potato and then upgrade to woody.

~mark




basedebs.tgz

2001-08-12 Thread Peter Leipold

Hi,

I'm a new Debian user (come from RedHat).
I would like to install a Woody version. I'm using the compat/rescue
floppy disk to install the system (download packages from network), but
it fails when it tries to install the base system. The reason is a
missing basedebs.tgz file.

I've found some mails written by developers that this file is not
available anymore, but I didn't find the solution how to install the
base system now???

Or can I do to install a stable system, and than upgrade the packages
giving the testing path into source.list when using dselect?

Can someone help?

-- 
Peter Leipold
Software developer
eQ Online



Re: basedebs.tgz

2001-08-12 Thread Rogério Brito
On Aug 12 2001, Peter Leipold wrote:
 I've found some mails written by developers that this file is not
 available anymore, but I didn't find the solution how to install the
 base system now???

I think that the new way of installation is that the
boot-floppies grab the deb packages that once composed the
base system from a network repository as needed, but I must
confess that this is not as handy as having one tar file,
especially if you're doing things in-house.

 Or can I do to install a stable system, and than upgrade the
 packages giving the testing path into source.list when using
 dselect?

Yes, that's a possibility (and, I think, the way to go). BTW,
I don't know how people can use dselect. I haven't used it for
a long while, but when I did, it was one of the worst programs
regarding Human-Computer Interface that I had used. Of course,
it may have changed since then.

And apt-get is nice. :-)


[]s, Roger...

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Re: basedebs.tgz

2001-08-12 Thread Josh McKinney
On approximately Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 05:50:41PM -0300, Rog?rio Brito wrote:
 On Aug 12 2001, Peter Leipold wrote:
  I've found some mails written by developers that this file is not
  available anymore, but I didn't find the solution how to install the
  base system now???
 
   I think that the new way of installation is that the
   boot-floppies grab the deb packages that once composed the
   base system from a network repository as needed, but I must
   confess that this is not as handy as having one tar file,
   especially if you're doing things in-house.
 
  Or can I do to install a stable system, and than upgrade the
  packages giving the testing path into source.list when using
  dselect?
 
   Yes, that's a possibility (and, I think, the way to go). BTW,
   I don't know how people can use dselect. I haven't used it for
   a long while, but when I did, it was one of the worst programs
   regarding Human-Computer Interface that I had used. Of course,
   it may have changed since then.
I must agree with you there.  I still remember the first time I 
installed debian.  I think I spent all day just sifting through the
enormous list of packages.  It was very discouraging.
 
   And apt-get is nice. :-)
Another big yes to that.  Once I found out how easy apt-get was, I 
reinstalled and simply apt-get installed everything I need.  Much
better that straing your eyes at dselect all day.
 
 
   []s, Roger...
 
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Re: Where can I fine basedebs.tgz file for Woody

2001-08-10 Thread Stephen Jiang
Thanks Henrique! I will try your method.

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- Original Message -
From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Stephen Jiang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Where can I fine basedebs.tgz file for Woody


 On Sun, 05 Aug 2001, Stephen Jiang wrote:
  Hi, I have tried to install Woody via internet. When up
  to Install the Base System part, it asked an address
  so that it can get a basedebs.tgz or a Release file.
 
  So, I typed it as below:
  http://ftp.dists/testing/main/binary-i386/
  in fact, I have tried different sites but it does not work.

 That installer is broken, it will not do what you want
(unfortunately).

  Please tell me how to install Woody via internet correctly.

 I've installed woody machines easily using the following procedure
(typing
 from memory, expect small mistakes):

 1.   Install the base system using potato's boot disks; it does the
network
  install rather well.
 2.   Ask for advanced package configuration, but do nothing. Exit
dselect.
 2.1  apt-get update
 2.2  apt-get dist-upgrade
 3.   edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to woody; run apt-get update
 3.1  apt-get install dpkg apt debconf
 3.2  apt-get install perl5 mime-support
 3.3  apt-get dist-update
 4dselect update
 5dselect, select packages you want, install. Or you could apt-get
  install tasksel, and use tasksel to select the packages you want.
  Or use any of the other apt frontends in woody (aptitude,
deity-*).

 2.1, 2.2, 3.1 and 3.2 seem to smooth the potato - woody upgrade a
lot.
 Mime-support in installed in 3.2 because the postinst scripts of some
 packages (like lynx) seem to work better if you have mime-support
configured
 before they run.

 --
   One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
   them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
   where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
   Henrique Holschuh



Re: Where can I fine basedebs.tgz file for Woody

2001-08-05 Thread Bob Koss

I'm going to try another (my fifth) install tomorrow, following the
steps you've posted below, and taking careful notes. The previous four 
installation attempts have not gone well and I've managed to end up in 
package dependency hell each time. Right now I have some bastardized
version between potato and woody because some of the woody packages
refused to install.

Stay tuned.

 Henrique == Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Please tell me how to install Woody via internet correctly.

Henrique I've installed woody machines easily using the following
Henrique procedure (typing from memory, expect small mistakes):

Henrique 1.  Install the base system using potato's boot disks;
Henrique it does the network install rather well.  2.  Ask for
Henrique advanced package configuration, but do nothing. Exit
Henrique dselect.  2.1 apt-get update 2.2 apt-get dist-upgrade 3.
Henrique edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to woody; run
Henrique apt-get update 3.1 apt-get install dpkg apt debconf 3.2
Henrique apt-get install perl5 mime-support 3.3 apt-get
Henrique dist-update 4 dselect update 5 dselect, select packages
Henrique you want, install. Or you could apt-get install tasksel,
Henrique and use tasksel to select the packages you want.  Or use
Henrique any of the other apt frontends in woody (aptitude,
Henrique deity-*).

Henrique 2.1, 2.2, 3.1 and 3.2 seem to smooth the potato - woody
Henrique upgrade a lot.  Mime-support in installed in 3.2 because
Henrique the postinst scripts of some packages (like lynx) seem
Henrique to work better if you have mime-support configured
Henrique before they run.


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Senior Consultant  | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java
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Where can I fine basedebs.tgz file for Woody

2001-08-05 Thread Stephen Jiang



Hi, I have tried to install Woody via internet. 
When up
to "Install the Base System" part, it asked 
an address
so that it can get a "basedebs.tgz" or a "Release" 
file.

So, I typed it as below:
http://ftp.dists/testing/main/binary-i386/
in fact, I have tried different sites but it does 
not work.

Please tell me how to install Woody via internet 
correctly.

Thanks a lot!

--Stephen Jiang [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Where can I fine basedebs.tgz file for Woody

2001-08-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 05 Aug 2001, Stephen Jiang wrote:
 Hi, I have tried to install Woody via internet. When up
 to Install the Base System part, it asked an address
 so that it can get a basedebs.tgz or a Release file.
 
 So, I typed it as below:
 http://ftp.dists/testing/main/binary-i386/
 in fact, I have tried different sites but it does not work.

That installer is broken, it will not do what you want (unfortunately).

 Please tell me how to install Woody via internet correctly.

I've installed woody machines easily using the following procedure (typing
from memory, expect small mistakes):

1.   Install the base system using potato's boot disks; it does the network
 install rather well.
2.   Ask for advanced package configuration, but do nothing. Exit dselect.
2.1  apt-get update
2.2  apt-get dist-upgrade
3.   edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to woody; run apt-get update
3.1  apt-get install dpkg apt debconf
3.2  apt-get install perl5 mime-support
3.3  apt-get dist-update
4dselect update
5dselect, select packages you want, install. Or you could apt-get
 install tasksel, and use tasksel to select the packages you want.
 Or use any of the other apt frontends in woody (aptitude, deity-*).

2.1, 2.2, 3.1 and 3.2 seem to smooth the potato - woody upgrade a lot.
Mime-support in installed in 3.2 because the postinst scripts of some
packages (like lynx) seem to work better if you have mime-support configured
before they run. 

-- 
  One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh