Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?

1997-03-02 Thread Lawrence Chim
Igor Grubman wrote:
 
 On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, Ralph Winslow wrote:
 
  Lawrence Chim wrote:
  
   Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote:
snip
first is with the mtools (do a man mtools to get more info), 
although
this is usually only with a floppy.
   
The second way is to mount the win95 partition using:
mount -t vfat /dev/??? /mountDir
   
This should work like a charm.  Let me know if it doesn't ...
   
-- Harmon
  
   Do you realise that FAT32 is different from FAT16?
   Only OEM WIN95 supports FAT32!
 
  Is this why I have to put up with those whatev~1.foo names?  Someone
  posted their reluctance to deal with other than .txt files to or from
  the WinDoze slice.  I've had success with moving .exe .doc .etc files
  to and from - no problem (except for the truncated file names).
 
 no, if you can mount and use the win95 filesystem, and the only problem is
 truncated filenames, then you have vfat (which is still FAT16), and you
 can solve the problem by adding -t vfat to the mount command as noted
 above.
 

vfat is not a FAT32.  With FAT32, the cluster size is 4KB EVEN the
partition is bigger
than 512MB.  FAT32 is not compatible with VFAT.  You need to apply the
patch from http://www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html,
then
compile the kernel.


Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?

1997-03-01 Thread Harmon Sequoya Nine
Unless its changed in the past few months, Linux can read and write to
dos/windows 95 partitions without a problem.  There are two ways.  The
first is with the mtools (do a man mtools to get more info), although
this is usually only with a floppy.

The second way is to mount the win95 partition using:

mount -t vfat /dev/??? /mountDir

This should work like a charm.  Let me know if it doesn't ...

-- Harmon


Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?

1997-03-01 Thread Richard Morin


On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:

 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:57:43 -0300 (ARST)
 From: [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Alex Lobkovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: debian user list debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?
 
 On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Alex Lobkovsky wrote:
 
  Does Linux read/write to the new Win95 Fat32 filesystem?
 
  You'll need to compile support for that into the kernel. The support is
 still in alpha state.
  Check http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html
 
 Nicolás Lichtmaier.-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 

Works great to read win95 filesystems here.  I'm a little leary to write
anything but plain text files back to it though.  

I just wanted to add, I grabbed the alpha for Wineand I am very
impressed.  It runs some simple card games that my girlfreind likes just
fine...(she is a little worried that I'm gonna get rid of the WinBlozes
stuff for good..hehe)  Does anyone else have a list of apps that wine
runs?

Rich M
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?

1997-03-01 Thread Lawrence Chim
Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote:
 
 Unless its changed in the past few months, Linux can read and write to
 dos/windows 95 partitions without a problem.  There are two ways.  The
 first is with the mtools (do a man mtools to get more info), although
 this is usually only with a floppy.
 
 The second way is to mount the win95 partition using:
 
 mount -t vfat /dev/??? /mountDir
 
 This should work like a charm.  Let me know if it doesn't ...
 
 -- Harmon

Do you realise that FAT32 is different from FAT16?
Only OEM WIN95 supports FAT32!


Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?

1997-03-01 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Lawrence Chim, you wrote:
 
 Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote:
  
  Unless its changed in the past few months, Linux can read and write to
  dos/windows 95 partitions without a problem.  There are two ways.  The
  first is with the mtools (do a man mtools to get more info), although
  this is usually only with a floppy.
  
  The second way is to mount the win95 partition using:
  
  mount -t vfat /dev/??? /mountDir
  
  This should work like a charm.  Let me know if it doesn't ...
  
  -- Harmon
 
 Do you realise that FAT32 is different from FAT16?
 Only OEM WIN95 supports FAT32!

Heh.. I must have sent out about 100 replys like this one from people
telling me the same thing as above. I've just given up replying.

Tim

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Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?

1997-03-01 Thread Ralph Winslow
Lawrence Chim wrote:
 
 Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote:
  snip
  first is with the mtools (do a man mtools to get more info), although
  this is usually only with a floppy.
 
  The second way is to mount the win95 partition using:
  mount -t vfat /dev/??? /mountDir
 
  This should work like a charm.  Let me know if it doesn't ...
 
  -- Harmon
 
 Do you realise that FAT32 is different from FAT16?
 Only OEM WIN95 supports FAT32!

Is this why I have to put up with those whatev~1.foo names?  Someone
posted their reluctance to deal with other than .txt files to or from
the WinDoze slice.  I've had success with moving .exe .doc .etc files
to and from - no problem (except for the truncated file names).

-- 
-
Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Someday soon I really  MUST find a way to
piss away a LOT of bandwidth on this .sig


Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?

1997-03-01 Thread Igor Grubman
On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, Ralph Winslow wrote:

 Lawrence Chim wrote:
  
  Harmon Sequoya Nine wrote:
   snip
   first is with the mtools (do a man mtools to get more info), although
   this is usually only with a floppy.
  
   The second way is to mount the win95 partition using:
   mount -t vfat /dev/??? /mountDir
  
   This should work like a charm.  Let me know if it doesn't ...
  
   -- Harmon
  
  Do you realise that FAT32 is different from FAT16?
  Only OEM WIN95 supports FAT32!
 
 Is this why I have to put up with those whatev~1.foo names?  Someone
 posted their reluctance to deal with other than .txt files to or from
 the WinDoze slice.  I've had success with moving .exe .doc .etc files
 to and from - no problem (except for the truncated file names).

no, if you can mount and use the win95 filesystem, and the only problem is
truncated filenames, then you have vfat (which is still FAT16), and you
can solve the problem by adding -t vfat to the mount command as noted
above.

HTH
__
Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation
Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?

1997-03-01 Thread John Goerzen
Yes.  And it also supports long filenames on those partitions.

 Hi,
 
 Having benefited greatly from this list before, I do not doubt for a 
 moment that someone will know the answer to this:
 
 Does Linux read/write to the new Win95 Fat32 filesystem?
 
 thanks in advance.
 
 -alex
 

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Custom Programming| 
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Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?

1997-02-28 Thread Elie Rosenblum
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Alex Lobkovsky wrote:
 Does Linux read/write to the new Win95 Fat32 filesystem?

Compile in vfat fs support when you make your kernel, or make the modules
for it and insmod them or let kerneld autoload them.

---
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When Cthulhu calls, he calls _collect_.


Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?

1997-02-28 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Alex Lobkovsky wrote:

 Does Linux read/write to the new Win95 Fat32 filesystem?

 You'll need to compile support for that into the kernel. The support is
still in alpha state.
 Check http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html

Nicolás Lichtmaier.-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?

1997-02-28 Thread Tim Sailer
In your email to me, Alex Lobkovsky, you wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Having benefited greatly from this list before, I do not doubt for a 
 moment that someone will know the answer to this:
 
 Does Linux read/write to the new Win95 Fat32 filesystem?

Heh.. I know the answer because I just asked it a few weeks ago myself.
The new 2.1.x kernels should be able to, but not the 2.0.x kernels.

Tim

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RE: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?

1997-02-28 Thread David Puryear
Hi Alex,

On 27-Feb-97 Alex Lobkovsky wrote:

Having benefited greatly from this list before, I do not doubt for a 
moment that someone will know the answer to this:

Does Linux read/write to the new Win95 Fat32 filesystem?

Yes, check here:
http://www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html

I don't have fat32, so I don't know how well this patch works.

Later,
David


Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?

1997-02-28 Thread David Puryear
Hi,
On 28-Feb-97 Tim Sailer wrote:
In your email to me, Alex Lobkovsky, you wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Having benefited greatly from this list before, I do not doubt for a 
 moment that someone will know the answer to this:
 
 Does Linux read/write to the new Win95 Fat32 filesystem?

Heh.. I know the answer because I just asked it a few weeks ago myself.
The new 2.1.x kernels should be able to, but not the 2.0.x kernels.

The very ALPHA patches are for 1.3.xx - 2.0.29

For more info. check here:
http://www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html

Later,
David


RE: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?

1997-02-28 Thread Wieboldt, David
Yes!  Put your windoze partitition in your /etc/fstab file.

Something like this
/dev/hda1  /mnt/windoze vfat defaults 1 1

Note that I may not have this syntax exactly correct, so check it before
you write it.  Also you need to create /mnt/windoze before attempting to
mount it.
Ah, yes, your kernel needs to have the appropriate fs support for this
to run.

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From:  Alex Lobkovsky[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:  Thursday, 27 February, 1997 15:17 PM
To:debian user list
Subject:   can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?

Hi,

Having benefited greatly from this list before, I do not doubt for a 
moment that someone will know the answer to this:

Does Linux read/write to the new Win95 Fat32 filesystem?

thanks in advance.

-alex