Re: device name problem after update

2010-03-11 Thread Thilo Six 
Paul E Condon wrote the following on 10.03.2010 19:17

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 I'm aware of an issue with naming devices in Squeeze, but you say
 Lenny.  Are you sure you are using Lenny, i.e. stable, as opposed to
 Squeeze, i.e. testing?

There is a libata transition coming down the road. But AFAIK that transition
has been only prepared in experimental until now and not been uploaded to
unstable.
Which issue are you aware of?

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Re: device name problem after update

2010-03-10 Thread Paul E Condon 
On 20100309_225735, Angelin Lalev wrote:
 After almost each update of my debian lenny kernel I have my IDE disk
 name changed. Once it's hda1 then is hdc1 and keeps flip-flopping. Is
 it a known problem?
 

I'm aware of an issue with naming devices in Squeeze, but you say
Lenny.  Are you sure you are using Lenny, i.e. stable, as opposed to
Squeeze, i.e. testing?

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Re: device name problem after update

2010-03-10 Thread Angelin Lalev 
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Paul E Condon
pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
 On 20100309_225735, Angelin Lalev wrote:
 After almost each update of my debian lenny kernel I have my IDE disk
 name changed. Once it's hda1 then is hdc1 and keeps flip-flopping. Is
 it a known problem?


 I'm aware of an issue with naming devices in Squeeze, but you say
 Lenny.  Are you sure you are using Lenny, i.e. stable, as opposed to
 Squeeze, i.e. testing?

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Thanks for the information. Now I know what's doing it and how to fix
it. But I will send some more information just in case it's a bug. I
use lenny and never touched the fstab of that machine manually. But I
run xen which loads it's own xenified kernel.

My /boot/grub/menu.lst (I run debian and ubuntu virtual machines on
their own real partitions)
I use the first row always (currently Xen 3.2-1-i386)
===

server:~# cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep -v \# | grep -v ^$
default 0
timeout 30
color cyan/blue white/blue
title   Xen 3.2-1-i386 / Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-xen-686
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/xen-3.2-1-i386.gz
module  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro console=tty0
module  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-xen-686
title   Xen 3.2-1-i386 / Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-xen-686
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/xen-3.2-1-i386.gz
module  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro console=tty0
module  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-xen-686
title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.28.9-al1
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28.9-al1 root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28.9-al1
title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.28.9-al1 (single-user mode)
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28.9-al1 root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28.9-al1
title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.28-11-server
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-server root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-server
title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.28-11-server (single-user mode)
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-server root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-server
title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-xen-686
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-xen-686
title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-xen-686 (single-user mode)
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-xen-686
title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-686
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-686
title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-686 (single-user mode)
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-686
title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-xen-686
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-xen-686
title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-xen-686 (single-user mode)
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-xen-686
title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-686
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-686
title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-686 (single-user mode)
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-686
title   Other operating systems
title   Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-11-server
uuid297ae396-2033-42da-ad3b-640b5f3f01d5
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-server
root=UUID=297ae396-2033-42da-ad3b-640b5f3f01d5 ro quiet splash
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-server
quiet
title   Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-11-server (recovery mode)
uuid297ae396-2033-42da-ad3b-640b5f3f01d5
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-server
root=UUID=297ae396-2033-42da-ad3b-640b5f3f01d5 ro  single
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-server
title   Ubuntu 9.04, memtest86+
uuid297ae396-2033-42da-ad3b-640b5f3f01d5
kernel

Re: device name problem after update

2010-03-10 Thread Paul E Condon 
On 20100310_204803, Angelin Lalev wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Paul E Condon
 pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
  On 20100309_225735, Angelin Lalev wrote:
  After almost each update of my debian lenny kernel I have my IDE disk
  name changed. Once it's hda1 then is hdc1 and keeps flip-flopping. Is
  it a known problem?
 
 
  I'm aware of an issue with naming devices in Squeeze, but you say
  Lenny.  Are you sure you are using Lenny, i.e. stable, as opposed to
  Squeeze, i.e. testing?
 
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 Thanks for the information. Now I know what's doing it and how to fix
 it. But I will send some more information just in case it's a bug. I
 use lenny and never touched the fstab of that machine manually. But I
 run xen which loads it's own xenified kernel.
 
 My /boot/grub/menu.lst (I run debian and ubuntu virtual machines on
 their own real partitions)
 I use the first row always (currently Xen 3.2-1-i386)
 ===
 
 server:~# cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep -v \# | grep -v ^$
 default 0
 timeout 30
 color cyan/blue white/blue
 title   Xen 3.2-1-i386 / Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-xen-686
 root(hd0,0)
 kernel  /boot/xen-3.2-1-i386.gz
 module  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro console=tty0
 module  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-xen-686
 title   Xen 3.2-1-i386 / Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-xen-686
 root(hd0,0)
 kernel  /boot/xen-3.2-1-i386.gz
 module  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro console=tty0
 module  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-xen-686
 title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.28.9-al1
 root(hd0,0)
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28.9-al1 root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
 initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28.9-al1
 title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.28.9-al1 (single-user mode)
 root(hd0,0)
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28.9-al1 root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
 initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28.9-al1
 title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.28-11-server
 root(hd0,0)
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-server root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
 initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-server
 title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.28-11-server (single-user mode)
 root(hd0,0)
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-server root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
 initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-server
 title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-xen-686
 root(hd0,0)
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
 initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-xen-686
 title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-xen-686 (single-user mode)
 root(hd0,0)
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
 initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-xen-686
 title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-686
 root(hd0,0)
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
 initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-686
 title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-686 (single-user mode)
 root(hd0,0)
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
 initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-686
 title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-xen-686
 root(hd0,0)
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
 initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-xen-686
 title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-xen-686 (single-user mode)
 root(hd0,0)
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
 initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-xen-686
 title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-686
 root(hd0,0)
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
 initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-686
 title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-686 (single-user mode)
 root(hd0,0)
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
 initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-686
 title   Other operating systems
 title   Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-11-server
 uuid297ae396-2033-42da-ad3b-640b5f3f01d5
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-server
 root=UUID=297ae396-2033-42da-ad3b-640b5f3f01d5 ro quiet splash
 initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-server
 quiet
 title   Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-11-server (recovery mode)
 uuid297ae396-2033-42da-ad3b-640b5f3f01d5
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-server
 root=UUID=297ae396-2033-42da-ad3b-640b5f3f01d5 ro  single

Re: device name problem after update

2010-03-10 Thread Angelin Lalev 
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Paul E Condon
pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
 On 20100310_204803, Angelin Lalev wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Paul E Condon
 pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
  On 20100309_225735, Angelin Lalev wrote:
  After almost each update of my debian lenny kernel I have my IDE disk
  name changed. Once it's hda1 then is hdc1 and keeps flip-flopping. Is
  it a known problem?
 
 
  I'm aware of an issue with naming devices in Squeeze, but you say
  Lenny.  Are you sure you are using Lenny, i.e. stable, as opposed to
  Squeeze, i.e. testing?
 
  --
  Paul E Condon
  pecon...@mesanetworks.net
 
 
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 Thanks for the information. Now I know what's doing it and how to fix
 it. But I will send some more information just in case it's a bug. I
 use lenny and never touched the fstab of that machine manually. But I
 run xen which loads it's own xenified kernel.

 My /boot/grub/menu.lst (I run debian and ubuntu virtual machines on
 their own real partitions)
 I use the first row always (currently Xen 3.2-1-i386)
 ===

 server:~# cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep -v \# | grep -v ^$
 default         0
 timeout         30
 color cyan/blue white/blue
 title           Xen 3.2-1-i386 / Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-xen-686
 root            (hd0,0)
 kernel          /boot/xen-3.2-1-i386.gz
 module          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro console=tty0
 module          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-xen-686
 title           Xen 3.2-1-i386 / Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-xen-686
 root            (hd0,0)
 kernel          /boot/xen-3.2-1-i386.gz
 module          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro console=tty0
 module          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-xen-686
 title           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.28.9-al1
 root            (hd0,0)
 kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28.9-al1 root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
 initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28.9-al1
 title           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.28.9-al1 (single-user mode)
 root            (hd0,0)
 kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28.9-al1 root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
 initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28.9-al1
 title           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.28-11-server
 root            (hd0,0)
 kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-server root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
 initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-server
 title           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.28-11-server (single-user mode)
 root            (hd0,0)
 kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-server root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
 initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-server
 title           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-xen-686
 root            (hd0,0)
 kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
 initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-xen-686
 title           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-xen-686 (single-user mode)
 root            (hd0,0)
 kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
 initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-xen-686
 title           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-686
 root            (hd0,0)
 kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
 initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-686
 title           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-686 (single-user mode)
 root            (hd0,0)
 kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
 initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-686
 title           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-xen-686
 root            (hd0,0)
 kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
 initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-xen-686
 title           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-xen-686 (single-user mode)
 root            (hd0,0)
 kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-xen-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
 initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-xen-686
 title           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-686
 root            (hd0,0)
 kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
 initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-686
 title           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-686 (single-user mode)
 root            (hd0,0)
 kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro single
 initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-686
 title           Other operating systems
 title           Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-11-server
 uuid            297ae396-2033-42da-ad3b-640b5f3f01d5
 kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-server
 root=UUID=297ae396-2033-42da-ad3b-640b5f3f01d5 ro quiet splash
 initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-server
 quiet
 title           Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-11-server (recovery mode)
 uuid            297ae396-2033-42da-ad3b-640b5f3f01d5
 kernel          

Re: device name problem after update

2010-03-10 Thread Stephen Powell 
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:25:40 -0500 (EST), Angelin Lalev wrote:
 
 Well, It probably is something I have done. The installation is at
 least one year old (so I had the time to screw something up) and I'm
 not very familiar with linux (BSD fan).
 I'll think I'll try to put uuids in menu.lst...

Good luck.  But please trim your posts.

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device name problem after update

2010-03-09 Thread Angelin Lalev 
After almost each update of my debian lenny kernel I have my IDE disk
name changed. Once it's hda1 then is hdc1 and keeps flip-flopping. Is
it a known problem?


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Re: device name problem after update

2010-03-09 Thread Ron Johnson 

On 2010-03-09 14:57, Angelin Lalev wrote:

After almost each update of my debian lenny kernel I have my IDE disk
name changed. Once it's hda1 then is hdc1 and keeps flip-flopping. Is
it a known problem?



That's udev.  Does your fstab use /dev/hdX, labels or uuids?

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Re: device name problem after update

2010-03-09 Thread thib 

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 2010-03-09 14:57, Angelin Lalev wrote:

After almost each update of my debian lenny kernel I have my IDE disk
name changed. Once it's hda1 then is hdc1 and keeps flip-flopping. Is
it a known problem?



That's udev.  Does your fstab use /dev/hdX, labels or uuids?



Whatever it currently uses, you *should* use labels in fstab;  and when not 
possible (fancy fs, whatever), UUIDs.


To reference the block device anywhere else, use /dev/disk/by-label/...
When not possible or not such a good idea (removable drives,..), there are 
also subdirectories to reference by disk ID (generated with the model/serial 
numbers,..), path (physical) or UUID.


If you don't want to use these paths, you can generate your own symlinks via 
custom udev rules.  I would *not* recommend renaming the drives with fixed 
kernel names ([sh]d[a-z]) in order to reorder them.  I had some issues 
trying to do that in the past, and in the end I realized it would only add 
useless confusion.


So, it's not a bug, you should just not rely on these names.

-thib


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