Re: [Gnome] installation debian Sarge
Le Vendredi 27 Mai 2005 00:17, honore jonathan a écrit : Bonsoir, je suis un Jeune linuxien et encore plus jeune chez Debian . Je trouve vraiment ce sytème magnifique et tout et tout et j'essaie de convertir mon entourage à son utilisation . Mais voila il y a un problème . Certains d'entre eux refusent d'installer ce système à cause du package gnome. Celui ci contient enormément d'appli qui ne servent pas forcement . Abiword, gnumeric ou dia par exemple sont des applications encombrant un PC si l'on en veut pas . cdrecord n'est pas non plus tres utile quand on installe cette distribution sur un portable sans graveur. D'ou mes questions, est-ce que l'un d'entre vous saurait ce qui justifie le nombre impressionant de d'appli inutile dans ce package et est-ce qu'il existe un gnome-light . Le paquet gnome (tout comme le paquet kde) est un méta-paquet (un paquet qui se contente d'avoir des dépendances vers d'autres paquets). Cela te permet d'avoir rapidement un environnement de bureau fonctionnel (apt-get install gnome, et hop). Ce paquet peut donc être enlevé sans pour autant que tu ne puisse plus utiliser gnome. Donc deux solutions : - installer gnome, puis désinstaller les paquets dont tu n'as pas besoin (ce qui vas conduire à la désinstallation du méta-paquet gnome, ce qui n'est pas grave). - installer les paquets à la main. Il faut bien comprendre que les dépendances de gnome sont choisies arbitrairement par les développeurs des paquets Debian. Si tu n'est pas d'accord avec leurs choix, tu peut envoyer un rapport de bug, ou éventuellement créer/demander la création d'un paquet gnome-light. -- Florent -- Citation aléatoire -- Judaïsme : n.m. Religion des juifs, fondée sur la croyance en un Dieu unique, ce qui la distingue de la religion chrétienne, qui s'appuie sur la foi en un seul Dieu, et plus encore de la religion musulmane, résolument monothéiste. -+- Pierre Desproges -+- pgpyT0zPXl8ET.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Gnome] installation debian Sarge
Le vendredi 27 mai 2005 à 00:37 +0200, Florent Bayle a écrit : Le Vendredi 27 Mai 2005 00:17, honore jonathan a écrit : Bonsoir, je suis un Jeune linuxien et encore plus jeune chez Debian . Je trouve vraiment ce sytème magnifique et tout et tout et j'essaie de convertir mon entourage à son utilisation . Mais voila il y a un problème . Certains d'entre eux refusent d'installer ce système à cause du package gnome. Celui ci contient enormément d'appli qui ne servent pas forcement . Abiword, gnumeric ou dia par exemple sont des applications encombrant un PC si l'on en veut pas . cdrecord n'est pas non plus tres utile quand on installe cette distribution sur un portable sans graveur. D'ou mes questions, est-ce que l'un d'entre vous saurait ce qui justifie le nombre impressionant de d'appli inutile dans ce package et est-ce qu'il existe un gnome-light . Le paquet gnome (tout comme le paquet kde) est un méta-paquet (un paquet qui se contente d'avoir des dépendances vers d'autres paquets). Cela te permet d'avoir rapidement un environnement de bureau fonctionnel (apt-get install gnome, et hop). Ce paquet peut donc être enlevé sans pour autant que tu ne puisse plus utiliser gnome. Donc deux solutions : - installer gnome, puis désinstaller les paquets dont tu n'as pas besoin (ce qui vas conduire à la désinstallation du méta-paquet gnome, ce qui n'est pas grave). - installer les paquets à la main. Il faut bien comprendre que les dépendances de gnome sont choisies arbitrairement par les développeurs des paquets Debian. Si tu n'est pas d'accord avec leurs choix, tu peut envoyer un rapport de bug, ou éventuellement créer/demander la création d'un paquet gnome-light. Merci monsieur, je ne savais pas que l'on pouvait desintaller le paquet sans desintaller le reste. Par contre, ou est ce que j'envoie ma demande, et/ou comment je cree mon paquet ? -- Pensez à lire la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Pensez à rajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Gnome] installation debian Sarge
Le Vendredi 27 Mai 2005 00:43, honore jonathan a écrit : Merci monsieur, je ne savais pas que l'on pouvait desintaller le paquet sans desintaller le reste. Par contre, ou est ce que j'envoie ma demande, et/ou comment je cree mon paquet ? Tu peux m'appeler Florent :-)... Alors, pour créer un paquet c'est un peu dur (il y a toute la documentation sur http://www.debian.org/devel/ , mais c'est fortement déconseillé lorsque l'on a très peu d'expérience sous Debian). Concernant le rapport de bug, il existe un outil texte nommé reportbug qui te permet d'envoyer un bug. Je pense que tu peux le reporter sur le paquet gnome, si tu trouve que celui-ci devrait avoir moins de dépendances (mais je te déconseille de faire ça). Pour la demande de création d'un nouveau paquet, il faut reporter un bug sur le pseudo-paquet WNPP. Mais le mieux à faire serait peut-être d'envoyer un message sur la liste debian-devel en demandant si il ne serait pas judicieux de fournir des versions light des différents paquets virtuels. Le problème, est que tout ce qui concerne les rapports de bug, et les listes de diffusion développeurs doit être rédigé en anglais. Si tu ne désire pas rédiger en anglais, tu peux passer par la liste de diffusion debian-devel-french, où si un développeur trouve cette demande pertinente, il la fera suivre sur debian-devel. Quelques adresses utiles : - Gestion des bugs sous debian : http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ - Les listes de diffusion : http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ -- Florent -- Citation aléatoire -- Chaque civilisation doit affronter une force inconsciente susceptible d'annuler, de dévier ou de contrarier presque toute intention consciente de la collectivité. -+- Frank Herbert, Dune -+- pgpBQgtTL4rYx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Gnome] installation debian Sarge
Le Vendredi 27 Mai 2005 01:09, Florent Bayle a écrit : [...] Quelques adresses utiles : - Gestion des bugs sous debian : http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ - Les listes de diffusion : http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ Encore une remarque : je viens de me rappeler qu'il existe des pseudo-paquets moins lourds que gnome et kde (gnome-desktop-environment et kdebase). Peut-être pourrais tu y jeter un oeil aussi. -- Florent -- Citation aléatoire -- Les requins ne mangent jamais d'avocats ; c'est de la courtoisie professionnelle. pgp9GIaFMTotV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Gnome] installation debian Sarge
honore jonathan ecrivait le 27/05/2005 00:17: Bonsoir, Bonsoir. je suis un Jeune linuxien et encore plus jeune chez Debian . Welcome ! D'ou mes questions, est-ce que l'un d'entre vous saurait ce qui justifie le nombre impressionant de d'appli inutile dans ce package et est-ce qu'il existe un gnome-light . Debian est pratique sur ce point car il permet d'ajuster tres finement ton installation en n'installant que ce dont tu as besoin. Je ne suis pas adepte des installations t'installes tout puis tu retires ce dont tu n'as pas besoin Il vaut mieux n'installer que ce dont tu as besoin directement, mais pour cela il faut connaitre l'architecture de gnome et de quoi elle se compose. Le paquet de base : gnome-core Ensuite, dans la liste des paquets suggeres, tu fais ton marché ! (je te conseille Nautilus, sawfish, metacity, gtk2-engines-*...) Un bon debut ici : http://www.trustonme.net/didactels/64.html#gnome2_deb @+ -- Pensez à lire la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Pensez à rajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: gnome installation help
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 00:09 Subject: Re: Re: gnome installation help Edward, thanks for trying to help, I know I wasn't very specific. I've successfully installed Debian 3.01 woody with the 'vanilla' option on a Dell Precision 410 workstation. Everything works at the command line, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, anything. However, I've tried with several video cards, both AGP and PCI. s3 Virge, Diamond Fire GL1 (the original to the machine), etc. Nothing seems to work!! I guess I'm looking for a specific set of apt-get install commands. I've tried numerous times, most recently with: apt-get install x-window-system-core then apt-get install sawmill-gnome I've run xf86config numerous times. Nothing seems to work. How do I invoke Gnome?? xinit? Every time I reboot I get to the command line or xserver cannot start. I really want to run a Linux desktop, but this is very frustrating. Any good tutorials online (I haven't found any!)? Brett __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Suggestion pick a video card go to the Mfg. website and see if they have a linux driver for that card. Try again if there is no driver you can use. Regards; Hoyt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnome installation help
Hello, I'm trying to run Gnome and XFree86 on my Debian box, a Dell Precision. The Debian command line works great. However, I can't get Gnome working properly no matter how many times I try variations on apt-get install . I get an Xserver could not start error... I *am* able to boot to Knoppix, which correctly identifies my video card and runs KDE. Please give a basic list of commands or link to gnome installation tutorial. Thanks!! __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome installation help
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 05:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm trying to run Gnome and XFree86 on my Debian box, a Dell Precision. The Debian command line works great. However, I can't get Gnome working properly no matter how many times I try variations on apt-get install . I get an Xserver could not start error... I *am* able to boot to Knoppix, which correctly identifies my video card and runs KDE. Please give a basic list of commands or link to gnome installation tutorial. It would be good to know which version of Debian you're running, the kernel version, the graphics card, and possibly the version of XFree86. However, most likely the computer is attempting to run the screen/card at a resolution or display depth it is incapable of. The settings for this are held in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 You can edit this manually, or reconfigure it with the command; dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 Alternatively, try copying the configuration file from Knoppix. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, don't forget to check the log file. The log file for xfree86 is at /var/log/XFree86.0.log. It is probably easiest to read the file with less, so the command would be; less /var/log/XFree86.0.log Hope this helps; - Edward -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: gnome installation help
Edward, thanks for trying to help, I know I wasn't very specific. I've successfully installed Debian 3.01 woody with the 'vanilla' option on a Dell Precision 410 workstation. Everything works at the command line, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, anything. However, I've tried with several video cards, both AGP and PCI. s3 Virge, Diamond Fire GL1 (the original to the machine), etc. Nothing seems to work!! I guess I'm looking for a specific set of apt-get install commands. I've tried numerous times, most recently with: apt-get install x-window-system-core then apt-get install sawmill-gnome I've run xf86config numerous times. Nothing seems to work. How do I invoke Gnome?? xinit? Every time I reboot I get to the command line or xserver cannot start. I really want to run a Linux desktop, but this is very frustrating. Any good tutorials online (I haven't found any!)? Brett __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can I get a working Gnome installation on a new testing machine?
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 05:49:09PM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 12:01:11PM -0500, stan wrote: Well, here is what my existing /etc/apt/preferences file looks like: Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 900 Package: * Pin: release a=stable Pin-Priority: 500 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 95 Should I drop the stable entry? Well ... why do you think that you need it? Mixing stable, testing, and unstable is almost always a bad idea. They were never designed to work that way. So, you are syaing: 1. There is NO program in stable that a testing or unstable version of does not exist? 2. I should just use 1 distribution? If so, which one? -- They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can I get a working Gnome installation on a new testing machine?
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 08:47:37PM -0500, Jerome R. Acks wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 08:33:09AM -0500, stan wrote: I'm trying to build a new machine for work this weekend. I'm running out of weekend, and I still have not mamanged to get a working Gnome install. What's the best way to get this working on a testing machine? It appears that there may be unmet dependencies, is this curently true? Install testing packages and the missing dependencies from unstable. Aptitude is nice tool for doing this. To limit packages installed from unstable and still be able to upgrade packages, set up a /etc/apt/preferences like: Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 990 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 100 Well, here is what my existing /etc/apt/preferences file looks like: Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 900 Package: * Pin: release a=stable Pin-Priority: 500 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 95 Should I drop the stable entry? -- They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can I get a working Gnome installation on a new testing machine?
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 12:01:11PM -0500, stan wrote: Well, here is what my existing /etc/apt/preferences file looks like: Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 900 Package: * Pin: release a=stable Pin-Priority: 500 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 95 Should I drop the stable entry? Well ... why do you think that you need it? Mixing stable, testing, and unstable is almost always a bad idea. They were never designed to work that way. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can I get a working Gnome installation on a new testing machine?
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 08:33:09AM -0500, stan wrote: I'm trying to build a new machine for work this weekend. I'm running out of weekend, and I still have not mamanged to get a working Gnome install. What's the best way to get this working on a testing machine? It appears that there may be unmet dependencies, is this curently true? Install testing packages and the missing dependencies from unstable. Aptitude is nice tool for doing this. To limit packages installed from unstable and still be able to upgrade packages, set up a /etc/apt/preferences like: Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 990 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 100 -- Jerome pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
How can I get a working Gnome installation on a new testing machine?
I'm trying to build a new machine for work this weekend. I'm running out of weekend, and I still have not mamanged to get a working Gnome install. What's the best way to get this working on a testing machine? It appears that there may be unmet dependencies, is this curently true? -- They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gnome Installation
Hallo, ich habe gesucht und nicht gefunden! Was muss ich tun um gnome als Sitzungsart im kdm starten zu können? Ich habe im KDE Kontrollzentrum unter System - Anmeldungsmanager - Sitzung gnome hinzugefügt, auch gnome-core ist installiert. Nur wenn ich mich anmelde, mit Sitzung gnome, ist es immer noch kde! gnome muss ich doch bestimmt irgendwo noch anmelden, oder? Muss ich in irgendeiner Xsession-Datei was hinzufügen? Wenn ja was? -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Gnome Installation
soweit ich weiss, musst du gnome-session eintragen Am Don, 2003-03-20 um 13.51 schrieb Jens Heiland: Hallo, ich habe gesucht und nicht gefunden! Was muss ich tun um gnome als Sitzungsart im kdm starten zu können? Ich habe im KDE Kontrollzentrum unter System - Anmeldungsmanager - Sitzung gnome hinzugefügt, auch gnome-core ist installiert. Nur wenn ich mich anmelde, mit Sitzung gnome, ist es immer noch kde! gnome muss ich doch bestimmt irgendwo noch anmelden, oder? Muss ich in irgendeiner Xsession-Datei was hinzufügen? Wenn ja was? -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Wolfgang Nolte Key Account Manager Strategy, Sales Marketing New Media Markets Networks Internet Services GmbH http://www.nmmn.com eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel +49 (0) 40 284 118 - 551 Fax +49 (0) 40 284 118 - 999 Technische Hotline - 700 -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
gnome installation
Bonjour à tous, j'essaie depuis ce matin d'installer gnome sur mon système (sarge et sid) et il semble y avoir des problèmes de dépendances. Est-ce du au passage gnome2.0-gnome2.2 ? J'ai lu les posts sur debian-gtk-gnome et personne ne semble se plaindre. Est-ce du à mon système un peu trop hybride ? bye -- Latreyte David http://www.gaule.org Powered with Debian GNU/Linux Sarge --
Re: gnome installation
Latreyte David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bonjour à tous, Bonjour, j'essaie depuis ce matin d'installer gnome sur mon système (sarge et sid) et il semble y avoir des problèmes de dépendances. Est-ce du au passage gnome2.0-gnome2.2 ? J'ai lu les posts sur debian-gtk-gnome et personne ne semble se plaindre. Quel est le problème exactement ? Christian
Re: gnome installation
Le Lundi 10 Février 2003 14:33, Christian Marillat a écrit : Latreyte David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bonjour à tous, Bonjour, j'essaie depuis ce matin d'installer gnome sur mon système (sarge et sid) et il semble y avoir des problèmes de dépendances. Est-ce du au passage gnome2.0-gnome2.2 ? J'ai lu les posts sur debian-gtk-gnome et personne ne semble se plaindre. Quel est le problème exactement ? Aqua:/etc# apt-get install gnome Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: gnome: Depends: gnome-core (= 21) but it is not going to be installed Depends: bug-buddy (= 2.2.0) but it is not going to be installed Depends: gconf-editor but it is not going to be installed Depends: evolution but it is not going to be installed or balsa but it is not going to be installed Depends: galeon or galeon-snapshot but it is not going to be installed Depends: gnumeric but it is not going to be installed Depends: gnucash but it is not going to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages voilà. Au fait, Christian puisque j'en ai l'occasion : merci pour tout le travail effectué (mplayer, videodvdrip, gnome ) -- Latreyte David http://www.gaule.org Powered with Debian GNU/Linux Sarge --
Re: gnome installation
Le Lundi 10 Février 2003 15:38, Christian Marillat a écrit : Latreyte David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Aqua:/etc# apt-get install gnome [...] Je suppose que tu es en sarge, donc un -t unstable doit peut-être arranger ça. non, celà ne change rien (j'avais essayé). Je dois posséder un paquet quelque part qui pose problème, c'est ce que je suis en train de rechercher. Suite au prochain numéro. bye -- Latreyte David http://www.gaule.org Powered with Debian GNU/Linux Sarge --
Re: gnome installation
Le Lundi 10 Février 2003 15:50, Latreyte David a écrit : non, celà ne change rien (j'avais essayé). Je dois posséder un paquet quelque part qui pose problème, c'est ce que je suis en train de rechercher. Suite au prochain numéro. bye -- j'ai trouvé, le pb venait de libfam0c102 qui entrait en conflit avec des paquets kde3.1 (de karolina) bonne journée -- Latreyte David http://www.gaule.org Powered with Debian GNU/Linux Sarge --
Managing a public Debain Gnome installation
Hello everyone, I'm building up a box to be used publicly at our company for tasks such as archived fax viewing/printing, web browsing, and use of image libraries. I'd like to have a consistent starting point for all our company's users to being from. Here's my plan: 1) apt-get install like crazy to install all kinds of applications. 2) Log in as myself and configure my Gnome sessions and applications preferences to be how I'd like them to start out for the users (of course allowing anyone to change anything if they wish). 3) Copy most of my home directory to /etc/skel The big problem I've run into is that some application preferences include user and $HOME specific things. It wouldn't be too hard to cook up a script to parse a generalized set of preferences (Netscape 4.77's come immediately to mind) to substitute in a new user's home dir. Someone must have run into this before. What have others done? Ross Vandegrift [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: Please CC me - I'm not subscribed.
GNOME installation screw-up
I downloaded the GNOME 1.0 distribution with apt, installed, put the exec gnome-session line in my .xsession file, and quit X to try out what I had done. Oops. I could have done the smart thing and logged out as Root before I put any GNOME startup stuff in a .xsession, but NOOO. I was too eager for that. Now, I can't get out of xdm at all if I try to log in as Root; if I try to log in with one of the user accounts, Enlightenment breaks -- possibly because they had existing .enlightenment directories from the 0.14 that came with Slink. I wouldn't have a problem, except that I can't figure out how to get out of XDM and into another virtual console so that I could fix stuff (well, maybe I'd still have a problem, but I wouldn't be completely stuck in XDM where I can't do anything) So, any ideas about a) why X won't start as root (the account with exec gnome-session in the .xsession file) b) why Enlightenment isn't working on user accounts with no GNOME startup instructions or c) how to get out of XDM so that I can start fixing the above two problems would be very helpful. __ matthew myers davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME installation screw-up
dear matthew :c) how to get out of XDM so that I can start fixing the above two problems try Ctrl + Alt + F1 to F6 will switch to vitual consoles where u can log in... cheers venu :I downloaded the GNOME 1.0 distribution with apt, installed, put the : :exec gnome-session : :line in my .xsession file, and quit X to try out what I had done. Oops. : :I could have done the smart thing and logged out as Root before I put :any GNOME startup stuff in a .xsession, but NOOO. I was too eager for :that. Now, I can't get out of xdm at all if I try to log in as Root; if :I try to log in with one of the user accounts, Enlightenment breaks -- :possibly because they had existing .enlightenment directories from the :0.14 that came with Slink. : :I wouldn't have a problem, except that I can't figure out how to get out :of XDM and into another virtual console so that I could fix stuff (well, :maybe I'd still have a problem, but I wouldn't be completely stuck in XDM :where I can't do anything) : :So, any ideas about : :a) why X won't start as root (the account with exec gnome-session in :the .xsession file) : :b) why Enlightenment isn't working on user accounts with no GNOME startup :instructions : :or :
Re: GNOME installation screw-up
MMD == Matthew Myers Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MMD a) why X won't start as root (the account with exec MMD gnome-session in the .xsession file) Check ~/.xsession-errors for clues about why it didn't start properly. MMD c) how to get out of XDM so that I can start fixing the above two MMD problems This has been answered by someone else. Ciao, Martin
Re: Further question re. dpkg and apt (was: Re: GNOME Installation)
HvdB == Hans van den Boogert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In addidtion to the answer you got: HvdB out the dependencies and get the files from either HvdB place. However, apt needs a packages.gz file for the directory HvdB in order to know what is in the directory. I haven't figured out dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -c Packages.gz will create a proper packages file to use with apt. Ciao, Martin
Re: GNOME installation screw-up
I just installed Gnome today, without having any clue what I was doing. I put exec gnome-session in the .xsession file, copying what Matthew said. (I suppose copying someone who's having problems may not be the best thing to do, but what the heck.) My .xsession-errors tells me gnome-session not found, and indeed there's no such thing on my system. I did install all of the non-developmental Gnome-related packages. dpkg -S gnome-session tells me not found, though I can't find the -S switch on the dpkg man page so I may be confused about that too. - Original Message - From: Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian Userslist debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 10:14 AM Subject: Re: GNOME installation screw-up MMD == Matthew Myers Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MMD a) why X won't start as root (the account with exec MMD gnome-session in the .xsession file) Check ~/.xsession-errors for clues about why it didn't start properly.
Re: GNOME installation screw-up
DG == David Gaudine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DG I just installed Gnome today, without having any clue what I was DG doing. Did you read http://www.gnome.org/start/getting_debian.shtml ? DG My .xsession-errors tells me gnome-session not found, and DG indeed there's no such thing on my system. I did install Then install the package gnome-session. Ciao, Martin
Re: GNOME Installation
In a message dated 6/1/99 3:46:16 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For future reference, why are you installing GNOME by hand? Is it not easier to just do an apt-get install task-gnome-desktop and other task packages? Am I correct in assuming apt-get needs a connection to the internet in order to work? I use AOL, so I can't get onto the net. Therefore, I have to bring everythign over on floppy from my sister's Win95 computer. Colin Winters
Re: GNOME Installation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/1/99 3:46:16 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For future reference, why are you installing GNOME by hand? Is it not easier to just do an apt-get install task-gnome-desktop and other task packages? Am I correct in assuming apt-get needs a connection to the internet in order to work? I use AOL, so I can't get onto the net. Therefore, I have to bring everythign over on floppy from my sister's Win95 computer. Colin Winters Good grief, is this true? If AOL doesn't allow this kind of internet access then what the hell is AOL good for? -- Ed C.
Re: GNOME Installation
Try: dpkg -i pkg1.deb pkg2.deb ... -- On Tue, 1 Jun 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to install GNOME by hand, and I need to install libgnome32 to continue. When I try to install it, I am told that it depends on having libgnomeui32 installed. But when I try to install that, it says i need to already have libgnome32 in. This happens with a few other files, also. What's going on here? There's no possible way to install these files. I really want to get GNOME installed, and I can't with these files not working. Thanks. Colin Winters -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null later, Bruce
Re: GNOME Installation
On 01-Jun-99 Ed Cogburn wrote: Good grief, is this true? If AOL doesn't allow this kind of internet access then what the hell is AOL good for? Not good for much. I read that AOL will run on Wine, though. -- Andrew
Re: GNOME Installation
M == Morgoth3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: M I'm trying to install GNOME by hand, and I need to install M libgnome32 to continue. When I try to install it, I am told that M it depends on having libgnomeui32 installed. But when I try to M install that, it says i need to already have libgnome32 in. You have to install these packages simultaneously. with dpkg -i package1 package2. SO the best thing is to copy all files into a directory (in /tmp or such), and run dpkg -i *.deb Ciao, Martin
Further question re. dpkg and apt (was: Re: GNOME Installation)
M I'm trying to install GNOME by hand, and I need to install M libgnome32 to continue. When I try to install it, I am told that M it depends on having libgnomeui32 installed. But when I try to M install that, it says i need to already have libgnome32 in. You have to install these packages simultaneously. with dpkg -i package1 package2. SO the best thing is to copy all files into a directory (in /tmp or such), and run dpkg -i *.deb Q1: Does this solve the dependency problems on the fly? Q2: Can you use a similar syntax with apt? If so, what is that syntax? I read the comment on AOL. Even if you can get thru on the net then it is still preferable for many people to first download the packages during a quiet time and then install them later. I thought to set up apt with access to the CD-ROM and a directory with the downloaded files, so it could figure out the dependencies and get the files from either place. However, apt needs a packages.gz file for the directory in order to know what is in the directory. I haven't figured out what the solution for this is. If someone has an idea then mail it to the group please. Hans
Re: Further question re. dpkg and apt (was: Re: GNOME Installation)
M I'm trying to install GNOME by hand, and I need to install M libgnome32 to continue. When I try to install it, I am told that M it depends on having libgnomeui32 installed. But when I try to M install that, it says i need to already have libgnome32 in. You have to install these packages simultaneously. with dpkg -i package1 package2. SO the best thing is to copy all files into a directory (in /tmp or such), and run dpkg -i *.deb Q1: Does this solve the dependency problems on the fly? Q2: Can you use a similar syntax with apt? If so, what is that syntax? Apt does not install packages, it passes them dpkg. yes, dpkg should handle the deps here (you will see warnings that should clear up).
GNOME Installation
I'm trying to install GNOME by hand, and I need to install libgnome32 to continue. When I try to install it, I am told that it depends on having libgnomeui32 installed. But when I try to install that, it says i need to already have libgnome32 in. This happens with a few other files, also. What's going on here? There's no possible way to install these files. I really want to get GNOME installed, and I can't with these files not working. Thanks. Colin Winters
Re: GNOME Installation
On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 03:42:56PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to install GNOME by hand, and I need to install libgnome32 to continue. When I try to install it, I am told that it depends on having libgnomeui32 installed. But when I try to install that, it says i need to already have libgnome32 in. This happens with a few other files, also. What's going on here? There's no possible way to install these files. I really want to get GNOME installed, and I can't with these files not working. Thanks. Colin Winters -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Just do a dpkg -i --force-depends package-name to install a particular package, ignoring the dependencies. Once you are done, run dpkg --pending --configure, then apt-get check to make sure all of your dependencies are met. If not, run apt-get -f install to fix them. For future reference, why are you installing GNOME by hand? Is it not easier to just do an apt-get install task-gnome-desktop and other task packages? -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
GNOME installation
I'm trying to install GNOME from floppy, and I've come across a problem. When I try to install libgnome32, i get dependencies, including dependencies on libgnomesupport0 and libgnomeui32. However, when i try and install these, I am informed I need to install libgnome32 first. What's going on here? I can't install any of these files, and I need them to install GNOME. Thanks.
XDM doesn't start after Gnome installation!
Hi, I re-installed gnome (gmc gnome-control-center gnome-panel gnome-session gnome-game gnome-terminal gnome-utils) with the apt-get installation tool from Debian after an erroneous installation. This far, I didn't have any trouble or error message. Of course, some libs had to be updated to fulfill dependencies with the packages. I then restarted to the login screen but it didn't start again. I'm unable to login through XDM. The screen shows the typical movements of the Xserver trying to come up, but the screen keeps black. What can be the difficulty? Can it be that some libs that are used by XDM where also updated and now show incompatibilties with other XDM packages? Apt-get should realize this dependency problems... Did anybody experience this as well? I use Debian 2.0 (Hamm). Any answer to what I should do are welcome. Thanx, Marcio Cordero
gnome installation
Hi, Thanks for the help on the gnome installation. I guess I just had to restart the system. When I did so, everything seemed to have worked fine. Shawn
Gnome Installation
Hi, I've just installed gnome on my system but nothing seems to be happening. I am running the WindowMaker Manager. The tool box shows some gnome stuff like the gnome panel but when I click on it nothing happens, it's the same with everything else. Does anyone know where I can get information as to how I can do a correct install of gnome. I have the gnome use guide printed up but it doesn't cover installation. Any advice would be of great help. Thank you. Shawn
Re: Gnome Installation
Shawn Nguyen wrote: Hi, I've just installed gnome on my system but nothing seems to be happening. I am running the WindowMaker Manager. The tool box shows some gnome stuff like the gnome panel but when I click on it nothing happens, it's the same with everything else. Does anyone know where I can get information as to how I can do a correct install of gnome. I have the gnome use guide printed up but it doesn't cover installation. Any advice would be of great help. Thank you. Shawn -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null you could try running gnome-panel or whatever from an xterm - that way you see error messages, and you can work out if its eg cos you have old libraries etc. frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Gnome installation
Hi all!!! I just finished compiling Gnome 0.20 (with GTK 1.0) which included the following packages: mico, mc, gnome-libs, gnome-core, gnome-objc, gnome-utils, gnome-admin, gnome-graphics, gnome-games and now I have my /etc/X11/window-managers file look like this /usr/local/bin/gnome-session /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm95 ... /usr/X11R6/bin/icewm but when X starts, it does it with the icewm window manager. Then, I tried to put a .xinitrc file in my home directory which looked like this: /usr/X11R6/bin/icewm exec /usr/local/bin/gnome-session(as stated in Gnome web site) But, in both cases, there is only the icewm running, and when I try to run a Gnome app (panel, gedit, gnotepad...) they all finish by: SIGSEGV caught!!! What is happening? Thanks to all!!! Rodrigo
