Re: ip-up for each user?
On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 02:14:37PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
I'm assuming that you have multiple users dialing into a single provider
account. Change 'pon' from
/usr/sbin/pppd call ${1:-provider}
to
/usr/sbin/pppd call ${1:-provider} ipparam $USER
and have the behavior of the scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d depend on the
value of $6 .
Ahhh...that's something I was missing. The manpage explains it nicely.
Thanks for bringing it to my attention!
Robbie
Re: ip-up for each user?
On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 10:19:13PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: This is in /etc/diald/ip-up: === #!/bin/sh # Set the time and date ntpdate -s -t 5 ntp2c.mcc.ac.uk ntp4.strath.ac.uk # Get mail fetchmail mail.enterprise.net # Run the mail queue runq === I presume you could do the same in /etc/ppp/ip-up/something. fetchmail won't allow 2 copies of itself to run, so you don't need to worry about that. So how does fetchmail know who to run as? I'm supposing as the user who called pppd, right? If that's the case, then my problem can be solved simply. Otherwise more hacking will be necessary. Thanks, Robbie
Re: ip-up for each user?
Robbie Huffman writes: So how does fetchmail know who to run as? I'm supposing as the user who called pppd, right? It will run as root, because that is what pppd runs as. Otherwise more hacking will be necessary. The conventional thing to do is to have root's .forward push the incoming mail through procmail or mailagent. I do it slightly differently. I have a user named 'postman' that exists just to receive mail. In ip-up.d I have su -c fetchmail -v postman which runs fetchmail as postman. postman's .forward pushes the mail through mailagent, using rules that are conveniently located in postman's home directory, which is named 'postoffice'. This nicely centralizes all the incoming mail stuff without cluttering root's home, and reduces the number of daemons running as root. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: ip-up for each user?
*- On 5 Apr, John Hasler wrote about Re: ip-up for each user? Robbie Huffman writes: So how does fetchmail know who to run as? I'm supposing as the user who called pppd, right? It will run as root, because that is what pppd runs as. Otherwise more hacking will be necessary. The conventional thing to do is to have root's .forward push the incoming mail through procmail or mailagent. I do it slightly differently. I have a user named 'postman' that exists just to receive mail. In ip-up.d I have su -c fetchmail -v postman which runs fetchmail as postman. postman's .forward pushes the mail through mailagent, using rules that are conveniently located in postman's home directory, which is named 'postoffice'. This nicely centralizes all the incoming mail stuff without cluttering root's home, and reduces the number of daemons running as root. I missed the first post by Robbie but wouldn't it just be easier to use a fetchmailrc that explicitly defines the relation of isp usernames to local user names? I have fetchmail start when ppp comes up with the following script which is provided in the /usr/doc/fetchmail package. #!/bin/sh #/etc/ppp/ip-up.d/fetchmail-up test -r /etc/fetchmailrc \ fetchmail --syslog --invisible --fetchmailrc /etc/fetchmailrc and my /etc/fetchmailrc is modified set daemon 120 poll popserver.isp1 with timeout 60: user isp1-username there has password isp1-passwd is local-name here fetchall poll popserer.isp2 with protocol pop3 timeout 60: user ips2-username there has password isp2-passwd is local-name here fetchall postconnect exim -q This is all run by root and fetchmail passes it directly to exim via smtp and it is immediatly dropped in my mailbox by exim. No middle man involved. -- Brian - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. - unknown Mechanical Engineering[EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: ip-up for each user?
I missed the first post by Robbie but wouldn't it just be easier to use a fetchmailrc that explicitly defines the relation of isp usernames to local user names? Maybe if you have more than one isp username. My ISP won't let me have more than one, and all my mail is relayed anyway. Besides, by pushing everything through one set of mailagent rules I can filter spam, post mailing lists to local newsgroups, etc all in one place. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: ip-up for each user?
Try this in your script: su -c fetchmail username This will run fetchmail using the .fetchmailrc in /home/username. You could do this multiple times for different users. Bob On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Robbie Huffman wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 08:58:22AM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: It sounds as if you should use diald to bring the link up automatically whenever a program attempts to connect to an external site. My own arrangement is for fetchmail to run whenever the link comes up, and for cron to do a single ping from time to time to ensure that the link does come up and collect mail, even if no-one is using it otherwise. What I'm looking for is your arrangement which allows for fetchmail to run when PPP is started. I'm guessing you just played with the systemwide ip-up script? Thanks, Robbie -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
ip-up for each user?
I'm currently looking for a way to have a per-user version of ip-up. For example, I'd like to start fetchmail if it isn't running already and execute a few pilot programs. But this sort of thing doesn't seem to belong in the systemwide ip-up file. I know I can hack together something which would allow for this, but I wanted to see if there was a standard way to do it which I just can't find. So, that's my question. FAQ or hack? Thanks, Robbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ip-up for each user?
Robbie Huffman wrote: I'm currently looking for a way to have a per-user version of ip-up. For example, I'd like to start fetchmail if it isn't running already and execute a few pilot programs. But this sort of thing doesn't seem to belong in the systemwide ip-up file. I know I can hack together something which would allow for this, but I wanted to see if there was a standard way to do it which I just can't find. So, that's my question. FAQ or hack? It sounds as if you should use diald to bring the link up automatically whenever a program attempts to connect to an external site. My own arrangement is for fetchmail to run whenever the link comes up, and for cron to do a single ping from time to time to ensure that the link does come up and collect mail, even if no-one is using it otherwise. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 My dear brothers, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, for man's anger does not bring about the righteous life that God desires. James 1:19,20
Re: ip-up for each user?
On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 08:58:22AM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: It sounds as if you should use diald to bring the link up automatically whenever a program attempts to connect to an external site. My own arrangement is for fetchmail to run whenever the link comes up, and for cron to do a single ping from time to time to ensure that the link does come up and collect mail, even if no-one is using it otherwise. What I'm looking for is your arrangement which allows for fetchmail to run when PPP is started. I'm guessing you just played with the systemwide ip-up script? Thanks, Robbie
Re: ip-up for each user?
Robbie Huffman writes:
I'm currently looking for a way to have a per-user version of ip-up.
I'm assuming that you have multiple users dialing into a single provider
account. Change 'pon' from
/usr/sbin/pppd call ${1:-provider}
to
/usr/sbin/pppd call ${1:-provider} ipparam $USER
and have the behavior of the scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d depend on the
value of $6 .
I'd like to start fetchmail if it isn't running already...
It won't start if it is running already. In any case, how could it be
running already? Do you have multiple modems?
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
Re: ip-up for each user?
Robbie Huffman wrote: On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 08:58:22AM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: It sounds as if you should use diald to bring the link up automatically whenever a program attempts to connect to an external site. My own arrangement is for fetchmail to run whenever the link comes up, and for cron to do a single ping from time to time to ensure that the link does come up and collect mail, even if no-one is using it otherwise. What I'm looking for is your arrangement which allows for fetchmail to run when PPP is started. I'm guessing you just played with the systemwide ip-up script? This is in /etc/diald/ip-up: === #!/bin/sh # Set the time and date ntpdate -s -t 5 ntp2c.mcc.ac.uk ntp4.strath.ac.uk # Get mail fetchmail mail.enterprise.net # Run the mail queue runq === I presume you could do the same in /etc/ppp/ip-up/something. fetchmail won't allow 2 copies of itself to run, so you don't need to worry about that. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 My dear brothers, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, for man's anger does not bring about the righteous life that God desires. James 1:19,20
Re: ip-up for each user?
Robbie writes: What I'm looking for is your arrangement which allows for fetchmail to run when PPP is started. I'm guessing you just played with the systemwide ip-up script? Just put the appropriate fetchmail command in a file in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d, put #!/bin/sh at the top, and make it executable. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Re: ip-up for each user?
Oliver Elphick writes: I presume you could do the same in /etc/ppp/ip-up/something. Make that /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/something. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
