Re: netscape, slink, bus error
Problem solved-- thanks to the following hint: On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote: XNLSPATH isn't the problem (It was only suggested as a possible problem). The locale problem (which I thought was solved a long time ago - did you recently upgrade to slink?) occurs because of a missing /usr/lib/X11/locale directory. Check this directory. If this isn't there (or its empty, or its a symlink) you can get this locale directory from the xlib6g (part of X11) package (3.3.2.3a-8.1). For some reason, even though xlib6g was installed, /usr/lib/X11/locale was an empty directory. Since I couldn't figure out how to do a forced install from an ftp site (i.e. what is the package arg for dpkg -i), I simply replicated the 'locale' tree from another host, and now netscape 4.5 (installed from the slink distro) works just fine. -- Rick Venable =\ |=|Eschew Obfuscation FDA/CBER Biophysics Lab |/ |=| Bethesda, MD U.S.A. | \/ |=| ( Not an official statement or [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ / |=|position of the FDA; for that, http://www.erols.com/rvenable \/ |=|see http://www.fda.gov )
Re: netscape, slink, bus error
Rick Venable wrote: Rick Venable wrote: I also tried to get netscape via the slink distro at ftp.debian.org, but the 4.07 package there still lacked the binary, contrary to reports that slink has a full netscape package. On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote: You need to look harder. :-) The packages holding the NS binaries have '-smotif' or '-dmotif' in their names and are found in non-free/web section. I responded to an earlier question this way: I did include -smotif binary as one of the packages I selected, and still didn't get a binary (although it may have been 4.07, and not 4.5). 00:00am ~$ dpkg -L communicator-smotif-45 /. /usr /usr/lib /usr/lib/netscape /usr/lib/netscape/45 /usr/lib/netscape/45/communicator /usr/lib/netscape/45/communicator/communicator-smotif /usr/lib/netscape/45/communicator/communicator-smotif.real This is the binary. /usr/lib/netscape/db /usr/lib/menu /usr/lib/menu/communicator-smotif-45 /usr/doc /usr/doc/communicator-smotif-45 XNLSPATH isn't the problem (It was only suggested as a possible problem). The locale problem (which I thought was solved a long time ago - did you recently upgrade to slink?) occurs because of a missing /usr/lib/X11/locale directory. Check this directory. If this isn't there (or its empty, or its a symlink) you can get this locale directory from the xlib6g (part of X11) package (3.3.2.3a-8.1). Confirm by checking for the existence of */locale/C/XLC_LOCALE (this, IIRC, is what NS is looking for). Thanks. I have been suspecting that the locale problem was a false trail, unrelated to the bus error. I think some of my problems may be due to the local archive I used for my initial installation, which was loosely based on early slink (unstable). I'm considering wiping my boot partition and starting over. That may be the only way. Debian has come a long way, but the ideal of never needing to reinstall isn't quite there yet. I decided awhile back to install fresh hamm to start over because of other problems. Since then though, the 'automatic update' accomplished by ftp upgrade using dselect/apt has worked well enough that I doubt I'll need to install fresh with either slink or potato. -- Ed C.
Re: netscape, slink, bus error
Sorry, I wrote my previous reponse assuming this message was a CC copy. When I realized this message was a different one, it was too late, I had already sent the other message. Rick Venable wrote: I purged all my netscape stuff, and tried a clean install of 4.5 from the frozen slink distro at ftp.debian.org, and actually got the binary installed this time. Unfortunately, it still fails with a bus error. Hmmm, people did mention the bus error around the same time as the xlib6g mistake (no locale dir) triggered a lot of Netscape failures. Unfortunately, I never saw the 'bus error', only the 'missing locale' problem. I assumed then that the bus error was related somehow to the missing locale dir, even though I personally never saw it. On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote: XNLSPATH isn't the problem (It was only suggested as a possible problem). The locale problem (which I thought was solved a long time ago - did you recently upgrade to slink?) occurs because of a missing /usr/lib/X11/locale directory. Check this directory. If this isn't there (or its empty, or its a symlink) you can get this locale directory from the xlib6g (part of X11) package (3.3.2.3a-8.1). Confirm by checking for the existence of */locale/C/XLC_LOCALE (this, IIRC, is what NS is looking for). /usr/lib/X11/locale is empty, but xlib6g (3.3.2.3a-8) is installed. ??? 00:53am ~$ dpkg -L xlib6g [snip] /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/compose.dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/C /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/C/XLC_LOCALE [snip] Something is very wrong here. My version of xlib6g, (3.3.2.3a-8), is the same as yours. You *should* have a locale dir! Try downloading xlib6g manually and using dpkg to install it. -- Ed C.
netscape, slink, bus error
On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote: I just installed Netscape 3.04 with the Debian installer package, and I always get a bus error, when trying to start netscape. :( On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: It's a libc problem. Go to http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html for info on fixing it. It's not difficult. Since I've been having a similar bus error with netscape (4.06, 4.07, 4.08, 4.5) I tried the libs supplied via the above URL-- it didn't work. I tried the unsupported libc6 version of 4.08 as well-- it didn't work. I also tried to get netscape via the slink distro at ftp.debian.org, but the 4.07 package there still lacked the binary, contrary to reports that slink has a full netscape package. I've had a very frustrating couple of weeks trying to get netscape working under slink, without any success. Basically, I get a 'locale' error message, the License dialog pops up, and a few seconds after I click on Accept, I get the inevitable bus error. Here's the locale message: netscape: locale `C' not supported. If the $XNLSPATH directory does not contain the proper config files, Netscape will crash the first time you try to paste into a text field. (This is a bug in the X11R5 libraries against which this program was linked.) Since neither X11R4 nor X11R6 come with these config files, we have included them with the Netscape distribution. The normal place for these files is /usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/. If you can't create that directory, you should set the $XNLSPATH environment variable to point at the place where you installed the files. Naturally, I've tried setting XNLSPATH to point to /usr/lib/X11/nls with the usual result-- it didn't work. I'm not sure if I actually have the config files mentioned above-- there's no manifest (file list) with the netscape tar.gz packages, and no instructions on where or how to install any NLS config files. Finally, here's the shared library list: ** janus [17] ldd netscape libXt.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6 (0x4000c000) libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libSM.so.6 (0x4004e000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libICE.so.6 (0x40057000) libXmu.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXmu.so.6 (0x4006c000) libXpm.so.4 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXpm.so.4 (0x4007e000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXext.so.6 (0x4008c000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x40097000) libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x40135000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40138000) libg++.so.27 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libg++.so.27 (0x401f6000) libstdc++.so.27 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libstdc++.so.27 (0x4022e000) libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x4025f000) I'd really appreciate some help solving this problem, and TIA -- Rick Venable =\ |=|Eschew Obfuscation FDA/CBER Biophysics Lab |/ |=| Bethesda, MD U.S.A. | \/ |=| ( Not an official statement or [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ / |=|position of the FDA; for that, http://www.erols.com/rvenable \/ |=|see http://www.fda.gov )
Re: netscape, slink, bus error
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Rick Venable wrote: I've had a very frustrating couple of weeks trying to get netscape working under slink, without any success. Basically, I get a 'locale' error message, the License dialog pops up, and a few seconds after I click on Accept, I get the inevitable bus error. Here's the locale message: netscape: locale `C' not supported. I guess I'm lucky. I always hear about how unstable Netscape is, but I've never had a problem with it. I'm using Communicator 4.5, installed via the Debian installer, and I have it crash maybe once a month or so. I've also used most of the 4.0x versions, with the same level of reliability. I don't have an XNLSPATH variable set at all. In /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/C I have a single file, XLC_LOCALE. dpkg -S shows that this file was installed by xbase. I am running hamm, and the xbase version is 3.3.2.3-2. Maybe there is a problem with the slink xbase; I have no experience with slink. The ldd output that you posted was identical to what I get on my system. I'm at a loss, and I don't know what to suggest for you at this point. Sorry. noah PGP public key available at http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/n/nmeyerha/mail.html or by 'finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNpLHU4dCcpBjGWoFAQHE2QP/aTjIrBItmJzeUcB/VqPg9KJHF1Mz8b/x 1SYn1syQit+5LJTd+oJCiJYD0kWtFqbN33Ym+0nISs5fHfc8tk0STxDCWRMN4vED a7Db8pDy5XUAP8yQgqxEdPxONiGrSJKr59FqkKwWdmk+XwG5TyVH3wj+Ut/IkxQj 1P6aX3TWZns= =YAvd -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: netscape, slink, bus error
Rick Venable wrote: Since I've been having a similar bus error with netscape (4.06, 4.07, 4.08, 4.5) I tried the libs supplied via the above URL-- it didn't work. I tried the unsupported libc6 version of 4.08 as well-- it didn't work. I also tried to get netscape via the slink distro at ftp.debian.org, but the 4.07 package there still lacked the binary, contrary to reports that slink has a full netscape package. You need to look harder. :-) The packages holding the NS binaries have '-smotif' or '-dmotif' in their names and are found in non-free/web section. I responded to an earlier question this way: The netscape-xxx are the base files for both communicator and navigator. The navigator-xxx files are for the stand alone browser. Communicator is the browser/mail/newsgroup version. I'm running communicator-4.5, and have the following packages loaded: netscape-base-4 necessary netscape-base-45necessary netscape-java-45For Java capability (I'd get it) communicator-base-45necessary communicator-nethelp-45 help file (optional) communicator-spellchk-45if you want the spelling checker communicator-smotif-45 Statically linked (Motif) NS binary I've had a very frustrating couple of weeks trying to get netscape working under slink, without any success. Basically, I get a 'locale' error message, the License dialog pops up, and a few seconds after I click on Accept, I get the inevitable bus error. Here's the locale message: netscape: locale `C' not supported. If the $XNLSPATH directory does not contain the proper config files, XNLSPATH isn't the problem (It was only suggested as a possible problem). The locale problem (which I thought was solved a long time ago - did you recently upgrade to slink?) occurs because of a missing /usr/lib/X11/locale directory. Check this directory. If this isn't there (or its empty, or its a symlink) you can get this locale directory from the xlib6g (part of X11) package (3.3.2.3a-8.1). Confirm by checking for the existence of */locale/C/XLC_LOCALE (this, IIRC, is what NS is looking for). ** janus [17] ldd netscape libXt.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6 (0x4000c000) libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libSM.so.6 (0x4004e000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libICE.so.6 (0x40057000) libXmu.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXmu.so.6 (0x4006c000) libXpm.so.4 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXpm.so.4 (0x4007e000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXext.so.6 (0x4008c000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x40097000) libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x40135000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40138000) libg++.so.27 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libg++.so.27 (0x401f6000) libstdc++.so.27 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libstdc++.so.27 (0x4022e000) libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x4025f000) No lib problem. I'd really appreciate some help solving this problem, and TIA -- Ed C.
